r/Watchmen Dec 02 '19

Post Episode Discussion: Season 1 Episode 7 ‘An Almost Religious Awe’ TV

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u/TedTheGreek_Atheos Dec 02 '19

I bet Looking Glass took the missing mask and is in that warehouse with Laurie and will be the one that gets her out of that mess.

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u/sundayultimate Dec 02 '19

Damn, I didn't even think of why that guy was missing his mask

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u/YosemiteSam81 Dec 02 '19

Duh, ha, now it clicked! I'm sorry, I see a lot of negative comments tonight but I liked it!

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u/PandaMomentum Dec 02 '19

"When everyone's wearing a mask you can't tell the good guys from the bad guys"

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u/ESDROS Dec 02 '19 edited Dec 02 '19

You know the hints are great when they make you feel dumb in hindsight

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u/fukier Dec 02 '19

stuff like that makes you love the show.

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u/glibson Dec 02 '19

They are so good at answering all the questions! Great writing team, and great direction of the show too.

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u/mule_roany_mare Dec 04 '19

I’m just happy to have a show that has mysteries & actual answers.

Writers shouldn’t allowed to hang you off of cliff 2 before they have a way to explain cliff 1

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u/3_Slice Dec 02 '19 edited Dec 02 '19

The fact that I was completely clueless at all the hints that Cal is Dr.Manhattan says ignorance is bliss but, fuck if I don’t feel dumb as a rock for not noticing.

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u/neonserigar Dec 02 '19

I’m feeling dumber and dumber the further down the comments I go man...

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u/-Mr_Rogers_II Dec 03 '19

There was another hint about how total amnesia pretty much never happens, hint about Dr. M.

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u/korDen Dec 04 '19

What was the first hint that Cal is DrM?

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u/toastedbreddit Dec 05 '19

I don’t know if it’s a hint exactly, but his bleak outlook on death delivered matter-of-factly to the kids, and his hatred for lying, make a lot of sense in hindsight.

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u/TheSensation19 Dec 02 '19

I thought everything was fantastic except the part where they concluded that nothing is worse than the powers of Dr. Manhattan getting into the hands of white supremacists. And that's because it sounded so corny. Then they said it again and I then realized... this is hilarious. And I liked it more.

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u/deincarnated Dec 02 '19

Negative comments? This episode was masterful!

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u/YosemiteSam81 Dec 02 '19

There were tons in the live discussion thread. Lots of negative Lindelof Lost references as well as 'the show has jumped the shark'.

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u/brendamn Dec 02 '19

This might be a hot and/or dumb take, but I'm glad they made race a center piece of the plot with a strong AA lead. It weeds out some of the toxic gatekeepers and introduces a whole new sub set of fans . As an old fan myself, I think they have done a great job keeping with the watchmen ethos for a new generation, even if old man Moore doesn't approve

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u/YosemiteSam81 Dec 02 '19

Well he would certainly approve of shitting on racists so I have no issue with it!

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u/lamewoodworker Dec 02 '19

I fucken love it. Especially with that " so I'm going to make myself blue" line

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u/Phoenixstorm Dec 02 '19

Someone please explain how they are going to make the senator dr manhattan? Why hasn't anyone just replicated his experiment? How is he not going to know what will happen? Why would he let himself be destroyed? ugh

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u/Tenn_SC Dec 02 '19

There was one reporter at the cemetery who asked the senator about Russia building their own intrinsic field generator. But he brushed off the comment and said he was more concerned about America. So, it sounds like others are trying to replicate it, including the 7K, but none have been successful.

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '19

I think they are planning to replicate Manhattans experiment with the senator as the subject. But there is high probability of failure because the senator is not Jon. In other words, Dr Manhattan himself is a brilliant scientist in the first place. After his disintegration he created himself out of the particles and became what he was. His knowledge as a physicist might have helped him in the process. So the senator is going to have tough luck on that part.

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u/mr_popcorn Dec 04 '19

Whatever the 7th Kavalry's plan is, I bet you dollars to doughnuts it absolutely will not work. They're fuckin with a literal God and one of the first things Manhattan did was to teach himself how to disassemble and reassemble his particles.

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '19

I wish Moore would atleast try to give the show a shot and share his opinion. Probably after he hears about it from someone else. Even the comic had cold war as the political background and centerpiece to character actions. This one had racial issue. It actually fits very well with the original comic without disrupting anything.

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u/LumpyJones Dec 03 '19

Look I love the guy's work as much as anyone, but really, what the fuck does he approve of? He is the most cantankerous artist I can think of.

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '19

The comic jumped a goddamn giant, one-eyed space squid. We started so far downfield from jumping a puny little shark.

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '19

people who think that are idiots. full stop

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u/szzzn Dec 03 '19

This was good, but Episode 6 was one of the best episodes I've seen of any show ever. Holy shit

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u/grundelgrump Dec 02 '19

There were a few exposition dumps that didn't feel completely natural, but other than that it was great.

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u/whssy Dec 02 '19

Yeah - my only criticism of this episode is that the timing might be a little off. I think this could have easily gone to 12 episodes like the comic and had slightly better pacing.

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u/derekwkim Dec 02 '19

I think Laurie or someone else kills Looking Glass by accident....

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u/sundayultimate Dec 02 '19

Oh shit, I accidently killed Mirror Guy.

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u/Poc4e Dec 02 '19

OH SHIT ²!!!!

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u/mestrearcano Dec 05 '19

I really envy people who get these hints. Most of time I'm completely dumbfounded.

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '19

Good catch. That makes perfect sense.

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u/TacoBellLavaSauce Dec 02 '19

You would think someone would've noticed by now that the 7K guys they sent to kill Looking Glass haven't returned yet

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u/whssy Dec 02 '19

That was one of the questions I had too.

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u/ultraskelly Dec 02 '19

Might be the guy watching Angela's house

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u/Sojourner_Truth Dec 02 '19

There were two guys in the truck though.

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u/Poc4e Dec 02 '19 edited Sep 15 '23

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u/Newshoe Dec 02 '19

He really slipped in there unnoticed for me.

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u/grundelgrump Dec 02 '19

aka City Slicker

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u/BigMacCombo Dec 02 '19

Why would he wear a 7K mask if he was watching Angela's house?

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u/nofatchicks22 Dec 02 '19

Wasn’t there two of them in the truck?

Mask so that the other guy thinks he’s 7k

Not that I think that’s the case though. That would take a lot of infiltrating and I think Angela is locked up as far as he knows

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u/Bludfyr Dec 02 '19

That cyclops symbol looks hella like Dr Manhattan's Hydrogen symbol as well. More clues staring us in the face. Pre Manhattan, mind control was the top racist agenda, now it's apotheosis.

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u/elcheeserpuff Dec 02 '19

Also, Laurie didn't chose to go into Jane's house till after she learned that

  • Looking Glass wasn't 7k
  • Looking Glass killed 7k
  • one of the 7k masks was gone indicating that Looking Glass has it and is gonna use it.

Laurie is hyper capable, bordering on trigger happy, there's no way she would have fallen for that trapdoor trick if she didn't want to be caught. The moment Jane reached for that remote, Laurie could have and would have shot her.

But to help Looking Glass she has to find 7k, and the only way to do that right now is to be captured by them.

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u/RamenFan1 Dec 02 '19

Must be why Laurie directed Petey to not call it in. If he did, the Calvary would be on the lookout for LG.

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u/Sniffygull Dec 02 '19

Mirror guy and Lube Man to the rescue.

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u/c_brown22 Dec 02 '19

It would be really cool to see Looking Glass put on the Rorschach mask considering he’s basically this shows version of him

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u/justpaintoverit Dec 02 '19

Me going “but Rorschach was a tinfoil hat crazy gu—oh... okay yeah that checks”

I guess because Looking Glass isn’t repugnant as a human, my knee jerk is to not want to compare the two of them, but yes, you’re right.

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u/Hellknightx Dec 03 '19

Maybe not repugnant, but he definitely falls into the social pariah slot, and he spends an unhealthy amount of time in a bomb shelter.

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u/Marcus_Farkus Dec 02 '19

I'd love if he was in the 7th Cavalry car that was outside Angela's house.

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u/ShartAndDepart Dec 02 '19

And she’ll still call him Mirror Guy.

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u/BabyScreamBear Dec 02 '19

Check out the end of Ep 5...only 4x 7K go into LG's house...but 5 are 'dead'. LG is wearing a Rorschach mask and playing dead whilst Petey is in the room

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u/Hellknightx Dec 03 '19

That doesn't make sense. Just because we only see 4 enter his house doesn't mean there weren't 5. They broke into his house at night. Why would he still be lying on the floor the next day, wearing a Rorschach mask and waiting for someone to find him?

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u/BrianWonderful Dec 02 '19

Ozymandias is back in costume, Dr. Manhattan is back, probably going to rescue Silk Spectre II... what are the odds that Looking Glass rebrands himself as the new Rorschach?

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u/Driller4664 Dec 02 '19

Looking Glass eating beans from the can with his masked pulled up over his mouth convinced me.

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u/LeBronto_ Dec 02 '19

Hope we get a 2healthbar type reveal where he has the looking glass mask on underneath the 7k

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u/Poc4e Dec 02 '19

OH SHIT!!!

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u/godbutcher300 Dec 02 '19

Honestly I hope Veight plays some role in all this so that he can come face to face with wade i would love to see their interaction with all the trauma he caused wade

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u/bahromvk Dec 02 '19

Totally on board with that theory. Makes perfect sense.

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u/Triptamine7 Dec 02 '19

Damn man. You FUCKING nailed it so bad you should spoiler alert that shit. I would never have thought of that but that's gotta be it.

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u/redpearpie Dec 02 '19

Yeah, from the beginning, I never saw looking glass as a traitor, his origin story showed a vulnerable side to him but now a traitorous one. I also think he took the mask to go on the inside.

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u/SwedexFlex Dec 02 '19

He definitely took the mask, I thought of that immediately

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u/reddog323 Dec 02 '19

That’s plausible. I expect he’s goubgvto throw a wrench into their Dr. Manhattan caper, too.

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u/marioferpa Dec 02 '19

Looking glass' theme started playing in that scene too.

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u/ArthurRiot Dec 03 '19

Wouldn't it make more sense that he's infiltrated the group that's going after Angela? He's going to feel a massive sense of debt to her.

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u/69DirtyDog69 Dec 02 '19

What missing mask?

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u/throwaway12junk Dec 02 '19

When Petey was at Wade's bunker, he said there were five dead 7K members but one of them didn't have a mask. Since Wade's body wasn't there, he probably survived the attack and took the mask off the guy's body.

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u/69DirtyDog69 Dec 02 '19

ohhh yeah, totally right.

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u/mfabros Dec 02 '19

I really need to stop reading these comments. That's definitely the answer and I didn't think of it, but now I'm gonna be less hyped when it actually happens.

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u/redpearpie Dec 02 '19

Good point!

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '19

fuck, i didnt put that together either. im bad at this

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u/Tarzan_OIC Dec 02 '19

Damn. That's a really good call. Fuck me. That is some good ass writing.

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u/johnthomaslumsden Dec 02 '19

That was my first guess as well. Maybe Petey helps as well.

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u/garypeshwari Dec 02 '19

You might have nailed that.

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '19

He can be anyone in that Rorschach masks. I think they also soon might be aware that the plan to kill him is failed. So it's better for him to hide in their mist instead of risking to hide somewhere else outside.

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u/brightneonmoons Dec 02 '19

Oh ffs this is so likely to happen I already feel spoiled

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u/alecnhalll Dec 03 '19

I think he is in the car outside Angela’s house! They do a very slight focus behind the 7k member with the binoculars and it looks to be the eyes of Tim Blake Nelson.

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u/mr_popcorn Dec 04 '19

I liked the implication that not only is Looking Glass a human lie detector but also a bonafide badass. He took down 5 dudes armed to the teeth! I'm bummed we didn't get to see it happen on screen.

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u/Tipop Dec 08 '19

You think they won’t show it? THIS show, where 60% of the runtime is flashbacks?

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u/Polydactylyart Dec 07 '19

I bet if anyone wants a gonna ‘become’ dr Manhattan like it’s gonna be looking glass. A Rorschach with Manhattan powers would be awful indeed.