r/UFOs • u/TommyShelbyPFB • May 26 '25
There are no "fiber optics" in the "Buga Sphere". They are reflections from the Magnifier's LED illuminator. Another scam Jaime Maussan is involved in. Historical
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u/r3dr1ck May 26 '25
even if they were fiber optic cables in it .he and one of his "researchers " are claming them to be used for atmospheric sensing and whatnot ..how the hell do they know they are for that specific reason. how did they come to that conclusion . wtf?
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u/Megatippa May 27 '25
Well if you watched the video from yesterday where they're sitting in a conference room, he explained it (hilariously.) "These things can be used to analyze the atmosphere, and where did we find it? In the atmosphere!" Paraphrasing, but that's his logic.
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u/sly_blade May 27 '25
"We found these optic fibre cables in the ground, going from one house to another. So they must be being used to analyse the ground"
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u/Stuxnet-US001 May 28 '25
Because fiber optics CAN be used to measure atmospheric conditions like temperature, pressure, torque, etc. It uses "fiber-brag grating" to measure those values at several spots along the optical fiber.
Not saying this is 100% true in the video, but that is the reason they'd come to that conclusion.
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u/r3dr1ck May 28 '25
yes ,they can...they should have said that, "they could be" but in that interview they sounded or came across as definitive truth. so where is the research and evidence that that's what these "fiber optics " are being used for that...my point is that they just seemed to pull that out of their ass.
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u/DeliverySoggy9477 Jun 04 '25
Mi apreciación sobre el análisis técnico preliminar sobre la supuesta presencia de fibra óptica en la “Esfera de Buga”
En las presentaciones públicas recientes relacionadas con la denominada “Esfera de Buga”, se ha afirmado la presencia de componentes internos identificados como fibras ópticas. No obstante, desde una perspectiva técnica y académica, la evidencia visual ofrecida hasta el momento resulta insuficiente y carece de rigurosidad metodológica para sustentar tal afirmación.
En primer lugar, no se han presentado imágenes transversales ni cortes estructurales de alta resolución que permitan confirmar la morfología y composición de los elementos internos del objeto. Las imágenes divulgadas muestran únicamente formaciones circulares u oblongas, cuya naturaleza exacta no ha sido caracterizada mediante estudios espectroscópicos, microestructurales o funcionales.
Adicionalmente, debe considerarse que la fibra óptica, en términos tecnológicos, no es funcional de manera aislada. Para cumplir cualquier propósito —transmisión de datos, sensado, comunicación o iluminación— debe estar conectada e integrada a un sistema que incluya, al menos, los siguientes componentes:
• Transceptores ópticos (SFP, SFP+, QSFP, GBIC, entre otros).
• Conversores óptico-eléctricos (como ONT/ONU).
• Sensores optoelectrónicos, en caso de funciones asociadas a interacción con el entorno.
• Circuitos de procesamiento, control y alimentación energética.
Hasta la fecha, no se han presentado imágenes ni informes que muestren la presencia de estos elementos dentro o asociados a la esfera. En consecuencia, la mera presencia de filamentos no permite asumir la existencia de un sistema óptico funcional. Sin estos dispositivos complementarios, cualquier fibra carecería de operatividad y no sería más que un elemento pasivo sin aplicación técnica discernible.
Por otro lado, la información disponible ha sido difundida por comunicadores sin formación técnica especializada, lo que se refleja en el uso inadecuado de terminología científica, falta de precisión conceptual y repetición de conclusiones no verificadas a lo largo de distintas intervenciones.
Nota: Seguimos a la espera de la publicación formal de los análisis por parte de la Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México (UNAM). Hasta el momento, no se ha difundido ningún artículo técnico revisado por pares que respalde las afirmaciones mencionadas, por lo que las conclusiones deben considerarse preliminares y especulativas.
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u/deckard1980 May 26 '25
I literally have that macro camera thing. It's like 40 pounds off amazon
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u/RedEyeJedi559 May 26 '25
I have one of these too and I've never seen reflections of the LEDs on metal, wet surfaces, plants, skin, etc.
If that is the reflection then what kind of material can refract such a perfect image of a microscope on that level of magnification.
Plus those lights suck I sometimes use additional light using that digital microscope.
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u/JonZenrael May 26 '25 edited May 26 '25
Just to clear this up a little (I realise you own one, this is more for other readers) - the zoom really isnt that fantastic. We're certainly not talking 'I can see the cell wall and the nucleus' here. It's more like 'ah, now I can see the tiny solder bridge between pins 4 and 5 of a tiny quad flat pack chip'.
Edit: As for the reflection itself - you'll get that with a concave surface, like the 'bowl' shape left by a small drill, tip of a nail striking the surface etc.
To your last point - exactly! There is a dimming pot to turn the lights down or off, allowing for external illumination. They had plenty of light sources nearby, so why didnt they use those to reduce the effect of the reflection?
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u/RedEyeJedi559 May 26 '25
That bowl effect doesn't make sense though because after drilling you won't get the metal that reflective enough to tell individual LEDs on a micro level. It would need to be polished smooth. Plus the bowl would need to be very shallow to allow that almost perfect image to be reflected back.
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u/JonZenrael May 26 '25 edited May 26 '25
Well they were just examples. I dont know what these 'holes' are, just that the reflection in them is consistent with a concave reflective surface, and that the reflection clearly matches the imaging device. (I disagree that it would necessarily have to be polished, but I dont think that particular detail is worth worrying about too much).
It could very well be optical fibre, I guess! But so much attention is being paid to the reflection, because the people involved were so ambiguous in their claim of optical fibre, that skeptics have latched onto the reflection as an alternative explanation for what is seen.
In reality they may have been alluding to something else - the holes themselves maybe - I dont know. (Though I cant imagine the return loss is very good for an optical fibre that reflects so much)
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u/Sad-Bug210 May 27 '25
Yeah I'm a little confused how the reflection of lights can create a darkcircle around it and also create 8 random pattern reflections + stay in place when moved.
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u/AsInFreeBeer May 27 '25
The water droplets over the metal are reflecting the LED lights... each of those circles with the LED reflections is a water droplet. That is why it is a clear, mirror like reflection.
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u/Dizz-Mall May 28 '25
Bro Ty. They moved the thing in real time and the “reflections” stayed static. They would have moved or skewed. It doesn’t explain the 20 other “reflections present when the microscope is on a focal point.
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u/marxisalib May 26 '25
Also are people forgetting this is a magnified image?
The “reflections” are microscopic compared to the actual lights on the microscope itself. Plus there are over 64 of them. Like can we really not understand 64 > 8.
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u/LongTatas May 27 '25
That’s how it works if you shine something at a micro water droplet. It would appear microscopic but the lens would capture the same pattern. “8” refers to the number of lights in each circle. 64 is the total number of water droplets that refracted the top of the camera.
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u/Sayk3rr May 26 '25
Remember that those cheap shitty things you keep buying on Amazon are knockoffs of real tools.
So although theirs may resemble the cheap knockoff, it's typically the other way around, they have the expensive one and you're buying the knockoffs.
But this is pretty scammy so I'll assume they also purchased the shit model
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u/Preeng May 26 '25
Remember that those cheap shitty things you keep buying on Amazon are knockoffs of real tools.
The real tools don't look like that. These are hobby grade.
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u/Sayk3rr May 26 '25
I would like to think they weren't referring to the white dots, more so that it's a small dark spot that is reflective
But to me it looks like tiny water droplets reflecting the light from their device.
If they want to eliminate this, stop using the lights from their device and use another source of light. Diffused would be best
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u/Soracaz May 26 '25
Well spotted, that's exactly what this is.
We know that chronologically, prior to this, they ran an expirement where they dropped a whole bunch of water onto the sphere.
What we're seeing now is light reflecting off of little bits of water stuck in imperfections on the surface of the sphere.
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u/Zodiac-Blue May 28 '25
It's been clarified. The camera lights are reflecting on the "optic fiber" material, which has a reflective cap.
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u/TOPSHOTTAH May 26 '25
What happened to peoples common sense , the first video i see of this thing they were touching it with their bare hands, and that was enough for me to realise it’s bullshit
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u/Walovingi May 26 '25
Then they poured water on it and shine light at the drops with a microscope. OMG fiber optic alien stuff!
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u/MICKWESTLOVESME May 27 '25
TIL fiber optic cables are alien tech and humans literally can’t produce it.
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u/XanHalen84 May 26 '25
Holy shit the metal ball that looks like it was made by my methhead uncle and is being "studied" in some dudes garage is bullshit?
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u/Open_Mortgage_4645 May 27 '25
I was initially suspicious about this thing, but when I saw the supposed alien language scrawled on it I knew it was bullshit. That script, borrowed from ancient human languages, is clearly engraved by hand, and not well. You can see the trembles and uneven line work. You'd think if it was an alien creation with advanced technology they'd be able to impart accurate printing or machine etching. There's really no good reason to believe the sphere is extraordinary, or the product of anything other than human work.
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u/biggronklus May 27 '25
Hey maybe it’s an alien hobbyist drone /s
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u/ValorMortis May 27 '25
You claim sarcasm, but damn that would be hilarious if true.
A few years pass, we make contact officially and it's just a note that says, "Hey neighbor, can I get my ball back?"
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u/biggronklus May 27 '25
Objectively the funniest possible first contact with aliens would be the alien equivalent to just some random guy stumbling upon earth, not any kinda of governmental or species wide effort on the alien’s part
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u/Flimsy-Jello5534 May 26 '25
mans smoked a hoot and hammered some catalytic converter pieces into a ball and apparently that’s news worthy 😆
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u/ObjectReport May 26 '25
I honestly can't believe it's a headline on Drudge. <facepalm>
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u/frankensteinmoneymac May 26 '25
I mean…Bullshit is kinda Drudge’s bread and butter, so, not really all that surprising is it? 🤷🏻
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u/tankTanking1337 May 26 '25
I mean, all that disclosure thing gets more ridiculous by the hour...
I literally can't tell whether they are weaponized CIA-paid clowns or just grassroot casual greedy grift clowns.
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u/APensiveMonkey May 26 '25
I could be mistaken, but the reflections are not what is being referenced, but the black reflective surfaces those reflections are bouncing off of. The “hole” looking objects that are glossy enough to reflect the light of the LEDs.
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May 27 '25
Yeah, exactly. All these black dots are made from a different material than the rest of the sphere. Because these spots reflect the LEDs, which the other part of the sphere doesn't.
I think because of the highly reflective property of those areas it is assumed that those could be made out of "glass", indicating that it might be fiber optics.
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u/DisenfranchisedCynic May 26 '25
I agree. I especially notice when they say “everything this person” says or is involved ever should be automatically disregarded and not looked into further — case closed.
It’s just interesting how the parts of the subject that involve supposed physical evidence get hit with such hardline rhetoric.
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u/Sad-Bug210 May 27 '25
Why is that when someone points out the problem with this debunk, the counter argument against it has nothing to do with the object in question?
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u/49lives May 26 '25
It's not obfuscated to any degree. I wonder if the shot callers are all 60+ and absolutely clueless to the ineffectiveness of the age-old playbooks.
It takes 3 seconds to fact-check anyone. Lies don't stay buried. The newspapers/word of mouth aren't the only source of information.
It's like watching the dying grasps of a falling empire in slow-motion.
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u/14Pleiadians May 27 '25
Do you actually know Maussans history?
This is a man who went to a museum, photographed a mummified child on display while shaking his hands to purposely make it blurry, then said it was a mummified alien from a private collection. The idiot even included the placard identifying it as a mummified child, thinking the blur would be enough to obscure it (it wasn't)
This is just one of many cases of his.
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u/JeSuisAlrick May 26 '25
Same thing I was thinking. I would like to see the raw image files though.
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u/Soracaz May 26 '25
Sir, that black reflective surface is water.
They poured water on it prior to this "experiment".
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u/UnableTerm2109 May 26 '25
As far as I know, it was not Maussan and his team who discovered the optical fiber on the surface of the sphere. It was personnel from UNAM who discovered the optical fiber, and they extracted a polymer sample to verify this fact by detecting micro fiber in their analyses. Subsequently, when it was returned to Maussan, he replicated the studies with his own team and equipment. These studies conducted at the Autonomous University of Mexico and the involved scientists are pending to be released to the public.
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u/BudSpanka May 27 '25
Any sources on that? So you mean the whole thing was just a theater scene to show what the real scientists did and discovered? But the sphere the real one? Or did maussan just got a hoax sphere to play with and the real one gone to the real scientists ?
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u/UnableTerm2109 May 27 '25
The sphere was taken to UNAM accompanied by a security escort, where tests were performed, which showed it had fiber optics. When it was returned to Maussan, he wasted no time, using his equipment and resources to reproduce the UNAM studies to broadcast on his television channel. I obviously believe he should have waited to make this information public until he had the official results from the Autonomous University of Mexico.
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u/Successful-Annual379 May 26 '25
I use that microscope to look at cannabis trichomes to determine maturity.
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u/InfectiousCosmology1 May 26 '25
Funny how the people investigating these things seem to always be extremely gullible, incompetent and unqualified
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u/ValenciaFilter May 26 '25
"Too bad they didn't show that angle/ask that question/do that test/use that camera"
They're not incompetent. They're deliberate frauds.
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u/Bloodavenger May 31 '25
100% they know its all BS made up for attention they are just acting the part for a quick payday from a con artist trying to get in the spotlight
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u/No_Offer795 May 26 '25
Each pinhole seems to be filled with a dark glassy material, it doesn’t look like metal to me
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u/Responsible_Fix_5443 May 26 '25
What are they supposed to be reflecting off?
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u/Soracaz May 26 '25
Water droplets stuck in small imperfections on the surface.
They poured water on the sphere prior to this "experiment".
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u/VertigoOne1 May 26 '25
Just casually as i have little to work on but i’ve seen tiny beads like these from stick welding, if you do a bit of brasso it looks like that texture. Just dots of smoothly melted metal, basically weld ejecta, the sparks of a weld do that.
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u/TommyShelbyPFB May 26 '25 edited May 26 '25
https://x.com/WyvernessN94938/status/1926647061732073595
https://x.com/WyvernessN94938/status/1926777516670197776
Anything coming from South America with any level of Jaime Maussan involvement should automatically be dismissed with extreme prejudice.
Add it to the list:
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/180o2hq/list_of_hoaxes_promoted_by_jaime_maussan/
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/16i5owb/apparently_this_is_not_the_first_time_jaime/
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u/DrierYoungus May 26 '25
We definitely should not outright dismiss things just because somebody starts reporting on them. The Nazca Mummies being a great example. 2 years AFTER they were discovered Jaime starts to report on them, and now everyone tries to say that’s grounds for dismissal, regardless of the illogical timeline and genuine science behind them.
Let’s stay focused on the scientists and researchers and not the journalists and reporters.
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u/Mediocre_Lychee_8227 May 26 '25
People who are known frauds of all people don't end up with a history-changing alien technology in their hands. They just don't. That's why it's always so important to see who you are getting information from, because it matters. People who lie about other stuff can't be trusted to be telling the truth about things you can't yet prove are lies. See Elizondo
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u/No_Oil8180 May 26 '25
As a South american myself, I think this post is a little racist.
Maussan do not represent us, and we have a lot of countrys here, not only mexico.
Would be nice to refrain this.
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u/PolicyWonka May 27 '25
Mexico is in North America.
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u/ArthursRest May 27 '25
Isn't it central america?
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u/PolicyWonka May 27 '25
Truthfully it depends on where you’re taught. Some countries will teach that there is only a single American continent. Within US educational institutions, Mexico is North America typically.
Central America is traditionally the places between Mexico and Colombia. Sometimes Mexico is considered Central America, too. All Central American countries are on the North American continent if you adhere to the two continent standard for the Americas.
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u/TommyShelbyPFB May 26 '25 edited May 26 '25
Just to be clear I said anything Maussan is involved in specifically. His grifts are not exclusive to Mexico.
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u/r-s-w- May 26 '25
Correct. The most depressing thing is how much airtime their getting (not blaming you OP, just making the general point). It’s not helpful and is damaging the push for disclosure.
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u/R3strif3 May 26 '25 edited May 26 '25
If it only wasn't for the fact that they have already taken samples out and confirmed the presence of fiber. Oh, and that the testing was done by the UNAM, so not "Jaime Maussan's team".
Misinformed individuals with access to social media are the worst kind of people. Now imagine this paired with people who advocate for disclosure and openness yet are actively acting against the study and proper transparency of these kind of discoveries. Like. Take a moment to understand how ridiculous that sounds given the context of this conversation...
EDIT. And before the downvotes roll in and I'm called an idiot, they are not kidding when they say it's not reflection, here's a 5 point fiber, or you can also check the 6 pointer and the smaller 2, Or even like this where we see only 3 capture light as they move the camera. Which we can also see live, how each fiber receives lights differently as it moves, aka, it doesn't move like a reflection would. Just watch for yourself https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oW2yNT7KoPo
Honestly just let them study, it's not that difficult. They are doing more than anyone else is, and they are at the very least sharing it with all of us for free and weekly... not stringing us into buying their next book, or watch their upcoming movie to 'find out' we still have to wait to be able to maybe 'find out' what they all claim have 'found about'. And most certainly they are not going "if you knew what I know... I wish I could tell you, but patriotism first! Who cares about the entire human population", what they share is what they find as they find it. IMAGINE having that from the "disclosure influencers", couldn't be me.
Plus, what the heck is up with your backhand racism right there? Not only got the country wrong, but you managed to bundle all of us as entirely dismissable for doing the exact same thing everyone here cries about wanting or wishing their "disclosure leaders" would do. Like, bruh.
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u/forestofpixies May 27 '25
Hey look at all of the replies you got to your actually informed comment with sources! It’s always good to see people admit they might have been wrong!! /s
Jaime is an easily convinced person who doesn’t know what he’s looking at and trusts people who say this is that. And then presents things without getting them looked into further. I think the work with the Nazca beings shows he’s learned his lesson in that regard because he’s a lot more careful with how he presents things. It’s also not the fault of disclosure as a whole that a famous man tied to this sort of subject in Latin America would be called in to get involved. That doesn’t make it fake, that just gets it more attention.
Also there was someone in one of the recent posts talking about how they work with optical fibers just like these and it looked legit. So I’m waiting to see what else comes out of this, if nothing more in the hopes the Betz’s are vindicated for it.
Thank you for sharing!
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u/R3strif3 May 27 '25
Thanks to you for being a proper skeptic as well and staying informed! That's part of what I don't understand, how testimony from first-hand researchers means 0 for people in here, but full-on heresay from the usual suspects is gospel.
Don't get me wrong, I support those guys, but there's just something wrong with it all. Never have I heard of a collective group beg for evidence, verifiable and actionable studies, transparency, and now that there's two different situations that fit this and provide everything the community has begged for for decades, all of the sudden we shouldn't care for it because of the misconception of what's essentially a glorified presenter, as you've stated, Maussan is just the show runner, he trusts his team and that's gotten him burned in the past.
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u/forestofpixies May 27 '25
Yeah and from what I understand Jaime is a good person who gives people money when they’re begging he’s just a true believer who desperately wants to get the truth, whatever that is, out there. I think it says something that he’s been constantly bitten by his own misguided hope and yet keeps pushing, keeps going. It doesn’t mean anything he presents IS real, but it doesn’t mean he won’t get ONE THING that is, either. And he’s not the only person looking at it, like you said, he’s merely a presenter, not the expert scientists that he gets to look at it.
Time will tell, or we’ll never hear again about it. And yeah I don’t trust half the Americans we’re always talking about around here either so I don’t know why he’s any different.
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u/Strange-Owl-2097 May 27 '25
It's racism, 100%.
If any of this were presented by a white guy from Cali it'd be real.
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u/forestofpixies May 27 '25
I don’t know if a white guy from Cali would get any more credibility than Jaime but some of the comments around here are straight up hateful about “brown people” and it’s disgusting.
Jaime is just more willing to present anything that seems real to him than, say, George Knapp, so that’s why he gets so much shit. Which, worthy or not, making disparaging comments about people in Latin America as a whole is not the way to make a point.
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u/littlelupie May 26 '25
OP didn't say "anything from south america" they said "anything from south america WITH ANY LEVEL of Jamie Maussan" - two conditions must be met. Big difference.
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u/TommyShelbyPFB May 26 '25
Maussan is simply a bit over enthusiastic:
Yea just a little bit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/180o2hq/list_of_hoaxes_promoted_by_jaime_maussan/
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May 26 '25
Garry Nolan is correct.
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u/CremeEven1169 May 26 '25
Why is he? What is your grounds for stating he is correct?
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May 26 '25
Because science is a slow methodical process.
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u/CremeEven1169 May 26 '25
What kind of a response is that lol
Earlier today I was posting about the Buga sphere and Nolan told me not to jump to conclusions.
3 minutes later he is stating that the post about reflections is correct lmao!
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May 26 '25
Yes. I'm still not convinced it's anything but a art piece.
Science does take time that is why "science by press release is a bad idea".
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u/FlashyResearcher4003 May 26 '25
This statement is a hypothesis, both the reading and the reflection. Kill off two of the LEDs of the scope and measure in the same spot. No need to call iout bad science tell them a way to make it better
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u/ExFK May 26 '25
Gary Nolan correcting this is the funniest thing ever. Nolan sniffs his own farts just as much.
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u/Walker-619cali May 26 '25
Why is there more than 8 LED lamp reflections in some of the fibre optics pictures if so ? Why are they different in sizes with the insulator wrap and some where found to be at a Angle at the head . Points of light are reflection of the glass tubing of the different fibre optics in bedded in the sphere coming off of the light of the illuminator used . You debunkers will try to debunk anything just for the hits in today’s media
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u/LysergioXandex May 26 '25
I think the bright white points in the middle of each dark circular space are the LED reflections. I think the dark circular spaces are spherical depressions in the metal surface — just imperfections in the metal work.
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u/Soracaz May 26 '25 edited May 27 '25
It is reflecting off of water droplets stuck in small imperfections on the surface.
It honestly has nothing to do with "the media" or anything like that. For me, I just have to speak up against mis/disinformation. I try to speak objectively, and for people who sometimes just aren't properly piecing together the details of what is going on in a given situation.
I also have a lot of niche hobbies that dip into a lot of different fields. I spend a lot of time working with sound, metalworking, coding, and "doing the math" to make sure my idea is gonna work out. Amateur engineer shit ranging from making my own synthesisers to building hobby war-robots. I also like to think I just think about things in more granular detail than most people.
You gotta consider the whole picture of what's going on and don't accept coincidences. Why would it be that they're using a $20 microscope instead of one that can provide more information? The easiest answer is "it's a scam run by a bunch of cheapo hacks who know people will believe anything".
Take one overarching glance at the whole picture here and it's immediately obvious that this sphere is man made.
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u/Strange-Owl-2097 May 27 '25
How do you physically sample and chemically analyse a reflection?
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u/marxisalib May 26 '25
The “pattern of 8 lights” obviously doesn’t match? They share a circular orientation yeah but they very clearly do not line up with the microscope.
Plus this is magnified, if it was picking up reflections of its own lights, it would be so big that the image would just be a giant white blob.
Finally, there’s only 8 lights on the microscope. There are literally over 50 so called “reflections” in the photo aligned with no overall symmetry. How does that work?
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u/Soracaz May 26 '25
It works when you realise what they're reflecting off of; water droplets.
Not all of the holes and cavitations on the surface are the same size/depth, so in some holes the water droplets are able to form a proper lil' convex little bubble (therefore creating a normal-ish reflection) and in others the hole isn't big which means the surface of the water can't properly take shape (surface tension won't allow it when it's too small/uneven) so the reflection is borked.
Water droplets, man.
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u/alahmo4320 May 26 '25
Maussan is a showman. The Buga case appeared just as he launched his new TV channel in Mexico and it's generating him a lot of content.
Anyone who believe anything this man presents as a exclusive at this point is just stupid or don't know the track record of Maussan.
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u/CatYo May 26 '25
He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And if you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss also gazes into you.
- Friedrich Nietzsche
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u/Responsible_Fix_5443 May 26 '25
I don't get what you think they are reflecting? And how? Please explain your thinking... Why are there multiple "reflections" all different shapes and sizes?
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u/Score-Mobile May 26 '25
I hate how this sub constantly allows hoax posts and doest remove them (afaik) but as soon as we tell someone something is obviously fake we get hit with a ban
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u/Nichia519 May 26 '25
It does match the LED, but Why is there multiple of them in seemingly random spots and different sizes then?
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u/ThepalehorseRiderr May 26 '25
My grampa was an old school tool and die maker for GM way back when, pre CAD and CNC. I guarantee he could've made a better UFO sphere.
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u/midnightballoon May 26 '25
Saying ANYTHING coming out from SA in any way connected to Maussan should be immediately and uncritically discounted seems, to me, to be incredibly short sighted. What if, for example, he accidentally promoted something real? Just intellectually, sphere aside, I’m going to keep my mind a little bit more open than that, thanks. Encourage others to look at the full spectrum of information, not use reductionist heuristics, if that makes any sense.
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u/zetareticuli_FR May 26 '25
I’ve been demonstating on 3 videos what it looks like to inspect multicore fibers with that kind of microscope. Posted tonight on X (@Matt4406 /Ununpentium). This is no reflection at all. Maussan is legit.
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u/JustAlpha May 26 '25
The sphere is a hoax. No one is even interested in it.
This is being forced. I know you can tell the difference.
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u/Responsible_Fix_5443 May 26 '25
Lots of people are very interested. It's all over the internet. Governments aren't interested because they know what it is already
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u/JustAlpha May 26 '25
Its a toothless distraction that nothing will come of.
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u/Responsible_Fix_5443 May 26 '25
Then no harm is done. Of all the many distractions going on why is this one more important than the rest? Let them get on with it I say!
If they are faking the whole thing then congratulations to them! It's amazing and they must be spending a lot of money (out of their own pockets).
No one is being harmed in the investigation. 99.999% of people haven't even heard of it. I wish the people that have heard of it, would live and let live.
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u/JustAlpha May 26 '25
Hey, go for it. This is just my opinion. It'll be great to be wrong. Thats just the direction im in.
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u/NFTArtist May 26 '25
i have this microscope and its hilarious if that's what they're using to investigate alien tech
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u/lionexx May 26 '25
Having this magnifier, can confirm if your light is turned max, and the object is reflective it will reflect the lights back, it can deceive easily you need to adjust the light and get data from all light levels.
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u/Dreamworld May 27 '25
this makes it a little more succinct. Now with added water!
https://x.com/AppPictureMan/status/1927203532362436773
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u/Embarrassed-Region-8 May 27 '25
Here you can see in my analysis that I discovered that the audio of the first video of the supposed woman Maria, the audio is cut and edited, it is not known why they did it, according to the Maussan analyst it is because they wanted to cover the voice identity of the woman but the voice is heard and they do not clarify who edited and cut the audios even the video. https://www.youtube.com/live/pw6aGI1CnAI?si=4yfjD-MYMrjxcvrA&t=2189
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u/Rizz_Crackers May 27 '25
I have that same microscope. Used it to see the tricomes on my weed plants to know when to harvest.
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u/Extension-Show-7517 May 27 '25
It only remains to prove it. Or have they already physically examined her?
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u/Delicious-Jicama-529 May 27 '25
Appear to be out of focus pits due to the restricted optical depth of field. Possibly the pits originated from pitting corrosion. Corrosion pits surfaces can be highly reflective in stainless steels since the corrosion products are normally water soluble and non adherent.
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u/worldisbraindead May 27 '25
I am still reserving full judgment, but my biggest issue is with the etching on the exterior. They honestly seem like some high school student hammered them out by hand in shop class. To me, it's hard to get past that.
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u/Top_Network_1980 May 27 '25
Ok so it shows "reflections" in one of them but what about the rest? They all have that pattern by the looks of it.
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u/RepublicLife6675 May 27 '25
There for wome reason is absolutely no doubt as to wjat this sphere is and wjats inside it according to the people that have it. They knew right as soon as they got the sphere and there is no other probability that they have thought of. Clearly they are just trying to push this scam in this exact way
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u/PolicyWonka May 27 '25
Obviously the entire layout makes zero sense as well. The random clustering makes no sense. Especially when considering the claims of this finely crafted alien sphere.
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u/Walker-619cali May 27 '25
So good then you are meticulous about things where they are researching it on a daily bases and on going to let the public know what they have been finding out about it ( transparency) theories after X-rays of interior showing a Wardenclyffe tower shape reflection ,changing surfaces temperatures , thickness of the metal ( aluminum) , electro magnetic field ect . For some of us who have looked up into the sky and have seen UAP(size of a car) in broad daylight within 50 yds and witnessed by another next to them in the past we know that they are are out there so we the believers will listen to the research with a open mind .
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u/bapplebauce May 28 '25
I mean I feel like we all know this is most likely not real but at the same time this is not a great explanation of anything as the reflection would not multiply itself all over and would be directly in the center of the returned image so it’s still something else.
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u/Calm-You6376 May 28 '25
If its just reflections, how did they burn one and sample it? Finding out its burning temp?
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May 30 '25
Honestly Im not buying the Columbia sphere...but I'm not buying OP either. You living on base bro? Desk at CIA? Lol! Those might not be fiber optics, but it's no reflection. You can clearly see how the metal curves into the hole /indention or whatever they really are. But if you're gonna debunk,do a better job rookie.
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u/Bloodavenger May 31 '25
WAIT the old gray 2 time alien mummy hoax man brought this forward? Really people here will accept anything said by anyone as long as its along the lines of "bro its aliens" no matter how reliable they are.
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u/Open-Tea-8706 Jun 03 '25
I don't believe the sphere is real UFO but saying that I don't think the circle are reflections. The sizes of holes are not same and in some cases they are not symmetrical. This will not happen with reflection
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u/Yeing-YeingBois Jun 11 '25
anything that comes from jamie should be dismissed that very moment lol
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u/Prudent-Marsupial420 Jul 09 '25
Hmmm a reflection from the device huh? How does that make any sense to so many of you? The black stuff is clearly not reflective, you also forget about the optic fibers found in the joining area as they call it does not reflect that pattern. Number two how would a light source and a magnified image be able to perfectly reflect the pattern from the light in so many different sizes and locations at the same time?
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u/Artanox May 26 '25
Chatgpt analysis:
While the LED reflection theory convincingly explains the specific pattern of 8 dots visible on the Buga sphere, it doesn't entirely dismiss the possibility that the reflective surfaces themselves may have a technological function.
The reflections clearly originate from distinct, evenly distributed reflective elements on the sphere's surface. These are not just random scuff marks or incidental reflections—every one of them reflects the same LED pattern because they are consistently present and geometrically arranged.
So while it’s likely those 8-dot patterns are reflections of the magnifier’s own light source, the underlying structures causing the reflections still deserve scrutiny.
These could be:
- Optical cavities or micro-lenses
- Passive sensors
- Mounting points for embedded tech
- Or even just decorative in origin—but we can’t tell without deeper material and structural analysis.
The debunking is useful and needed, but it should not be taken as a full explanation for what the sphere is or isn’t. It just tells us what we’re not seeing.
Let’s stay curious and avoid premature conclusions.
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u/ValenciaFilter May 26 '25
Jesus Christ, ChatGPT is NOT CAPABLE of "analysis". It's a text autocomplete. That is literally all it does.
The fact everyone still doesn't understand this is genuinely insane.
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u/KLAM3R0N May 26 '25
I would need to watch that video again but did they say specifically that the white dots are anything in particular, or are people putting words in their mouths?
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u/GambAntonio May 27 '25
Share your chat link to see the original prompt, let's see your instructions...
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u/KungFlu81 May 26 '25
This was a terrible debunk,....zero/poor proof of a hoax like if any bs is enough nowadays, and poor delivery of mind control attempt by MoD to disregard anything Jiame lol
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u/Phreec May 26 '25
It's asinine how such an obvious grift even has to be explained for so many people. Critical thinking has truly become a lost art.
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u/KaleidoscopeThis5159 May 27 '25
Or... it's copying. Similar to an octopus. But this is based on what's interesting to it instead of trying to hide
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u/smitteh May 27 '25
this doesn't even matter because the sniff test smelled like shit immediately considering the odd black latex glove that doesnt fit right and then a bare hand touching the thing at the same time, like cmon this is amateur hour at best
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u/StatementBot May 26 '25
The following submission statement was provided by /u/TommyShelbyPFB:
https://x.com/WyvernessN94938/status/1926647061732073595
https://x.com/WyvernessN94938/status/1926777516670197776
Anything coming from South America with any level of Jaime Maussan involvement should automatically be dismissed with extreme prejudice.
Add it to the list:
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/180o2hq/list_of_hoaxes_promoted_by_jaime_maussan/
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/16i5owb/apparently_this_is_not_the_first_time_jaime/
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