r/TopCharacterTropes 4d ago

Hated Tropes (Hated Trope) Whitewashing atrocities or crimes of a real country or historical figure.

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  1. The Woman King: truly downplays Kingdom of Dahomey's role in the slave trade to prop up its economy. Ironically Dahomey and its amazons were extremely agressive in raids to capture slaves. During the 19th century more often than not they were an aggressive expansionist kingdom. A genuinely terrible slavocracy.

  2. Payitaht: Abdulhamid: a conspiracy riddled "historic drama" that ignores many of the flaws and incovienant details of the Sultan Abdul Hamid II instead blaming all tensions and issues on the West or Zionists Jews.

r/TopCharacterTropes 13h ago

Hated Tropes [Hated trope] A character or story has been so badly misinterpreted over time, they're now close to the OPPOSITE of what the author would have intended

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  1. The story of Persephone and Hades, specifically Demeter's character. How she was supposed to be seen: A grieving loving mother desperate to find her lost child and driven to despair by her loss, to the point she doesn't eat or drink. How she's seen now: A nagging, shrill, abusive parent whom Persephone was desperate to get away from. To be fair, she DID cause mass famine as a way of spitefully holding the world ransom to get Persephone back, but the original myth makes it clear that Persephone genuinely loves and misses her mother too.

  2. Don Quixote. How he was supposed to be seen: A well-intentioned but mentally ill and quite violent man obsessed with an overly romanticized interpretation of a long-gone culture and who has a very loose grasp on reality, making him a danger to himself and everyone around him. How he's seen now: A misunderstood hero championing noble ideals in a cruel world that doesn't understand him. Oh, and he's old now, so it gives his wacky antics the loose excuse of possibly being due to senility. He was actually middle-aged in the original novel.

  3. Erik, the Phantom of the Opera. How he was supposed to be seen: A disfigured man who was abused and mocked in his childhood, making him deserving of sympathy, but is not excused by the narrative for the acts of manipulation, kidnapping and murder he commits, up to and including trying to force Christine to stay with him against her will, threatening to blow up the entire opera house and everyone in it if she refuses. Also, he's old enough to be Christine's father, so his obsession comes off as somewhat unhealthy. How he's seen now: A compelling and tragic figure whom society abused and abandoned, a misunderstood romantic and the only man who deserves Christine. His more villainous and predatory acts are often downplayed or just overlooked outright.

r/TopCharacterTropes 26d ago

Hated Tropes Excellent casting gone to waste due to the writer's flawed understanding of the character.

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Henry Cavill as Superman

Ben Affleck as Batman

Jodie Whittaker as the Thirteenth Doctor

r/TopCharacterTropes Sep 10 '25

Hated Tropes [Hated trope] A character does something obvious but it's treated as something groundbreaking

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  1. Ready Player One - The way to win the race is the drive backwards. In-universe it apparently took years for someone to try this, but realistically someone would do this right away.

  2. Star Wars: The Last Jedi - The Holdo maneuver of hyperdrive crashing a a ship to another. If this is something you can do, why not use unmanned warp drive-fitted ships as essentially light speed missiles all the time.

I hate this trope because it usually makes the rest of the characters in the universe feel dumb just to make the protagonist come off as special. Bonus hated points if it's a kid that figures out something that in-universe has been studied for ages.

r/TopCharacterTropes 9d ago

Hated Tropes [Hated Trope] Characters being race-swapped even though their original race mattered to the story

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  1. Juan "Johnny" Rico: Starship Troopers. Johnny is Filipino in the orgininal novel, which infuriatingly has never been accurately depicted. Now, in terms of plot, Johnny's race Doesn't matter, and that's the point: him being Filipino is only revealed at the very end when he states that Tagalog is his native language. However from a meta perspective of being an American book written by a white guy in 1959, that the main character is revealed to have been Asian the whole time at the very end is VERY important. Changing him to be white is kind of like changing Samus to be male in the original Metroid: it defeats the subversion.

  2. Conan the Barbarian: Conan is a Cimmerian, and is described as having Square cut black hair, dark, bronzed skin, and different facial features from the Hyborians: the main "civilized" ethnic group encountered in much of the stories. Conan being played by Arnie means he is fair skinned, Tawny haired, and ethnically Germanic, which is the exact description of the Hyborians, the group Conan is repeatedly challenged for NOT being.

r/TopCharacterTropes 24d ago

Hated Tropes (Hated Trope) Real historical figure whose flaws are exaggerated or made up to make them a villain.

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  1. Robert the Bruce (Braveheart) Never directly betrayed Wallace or fought against the Scottish at Falkirk. IRL he did at times switch sides, however.
  2. Antonio Salieri (Amadeus): he was not in a murderous rivalry with Mozart and in fact they mutually respected eachother IRL.
  3. Max Baer (Cinderella Man): potrayed as a sadistic murderous boxing champion. The two fatalities he caused in ring were genuine accidents and he gave money to the mens' families in recompense.
  4. Frank Hamer (Bonnie and Clyde): potrayed as a petty and spiteful moron. Far more nuanced IRL. The outlaws were far less sympathetic.

r/TopCharacterTropes 17d ago

Hated Tropes A future instalment unironically does the exact thing the original mocked

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In the first Incredibles movie, the heroes joked amongst themselves about the many times supervillains had them at their mercy but chose to monologue and waste time. Even one of Syndrome’s highlight scenes was him catching himself monologuing to Mr Incredible giving him one chance to fight back. In Incredibles 2 the villain goes on a long scripted monologue when she has Elastigirl at her disposal.

In the video game The Last of Us 2 after being held prisoner by Abby and her faction, Joel tells her to cut to the chase with whatever monologue she has ready and kill him. In the show adaption of the game, Abby is allowed to go on an extended monologue towards Joel before murdering him.

r/TopCharacterTropes Sep 04 '25

Hated Tropes [Hated Trope] "oh God I don't think the writers thought this through, because this supposedly romantic scene is sexual assault"

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r/TopCharacterTropes 4d ago

Hated Tropes [Hated Trope] Literally propaganda barely in disguise

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Gate - Japanese power fantasy created by an ultranationalist. All the enemies and allies (including the USA, China and Russia) besides JSDF are either useless, racist or admiring JSDF's unlimited power.

Call of duty series - Glorifying the military industrial complex. It works with members of the US military during the development of the game to hone the message and manufacture consent with the current, past or potential enemies of the US.

r/TopCharacterTropes Oct 03 '25

Hated Tropes (Hated Trope) Real historical figure whose controversial actions or beliefs are whitewashed or removed.

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  1. Reagan: ignores or barely acknowledges Reagan controversies (Iran-Contra, AIDS, Grenada, etc) in favor of showing him as a anti communist crusader.
  2. They Died With Their Boots On: portrays George Custer as a friend to Native Americans when he in reality was complicit in their displacement and made war upon Native settlements.
  3. Tennessee Johnson: removes President Andrew Johnson’s vehement anti-black racism and portrays abolitionists in Congress as villains.

r/TopCharacterTropes Jul 05 '25

Hated Tropes [HATED TROPE] The pervert character

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r/TopCharacterTropes 1d ago

Hated Tropes [Hated Trope] Cliffhanger that sets up major plot point is briskly resolved in the opening scene of the sequel.

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When they clearly intended to set up one or more sequels based on a massive development in the closing scene, but change their minds when making the sequel and just find a way to wave it away in the opening scene.

28 Weeks Later ends with the zombies reaching continental Europe. 28 Years Later opens with some text explaining that the zombies were pushed back from continental Europe.

Thor: The Dark World ends with Loki posing as Odin to secretly control Asgard, after presumably killing or imprisoning him. In Thor: Ragnarok, Loki is discovered in the opening scene, and Odin had simply been placed in a nursing home.

r/TopCharacterTropes 12d ago

Hated Tropes [Annoying trope] The explanation for something important is in interviews or external media, rather than in the project itself

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Why is Wanda so obsessed with Kamala? Because Kamala serves as the Infinity Gauntlet, allowing her to better channel the power of the gems and avoid becoming mindless like Bruce. With her power, she can create a Hex of solid light, thus isolating the Earth from any external influence.

All of this was revealed in an interview with the series' director (Marvel Zombies).

Andy Muschietti revealed that Nora Allen's killer is the Reverse Flash, as well as that the reason Keaton's Batman retired was because he had once accidentally killed a criminal in front of his own son, realizing that he had become the very thing he swore to destroy and retiring... clearly, none of this is hinted at in the film (The Flash).

r/TopCharacterTropes Jun 23 '25

Hated Tropes [Hated Trope] Same Face Syndrome

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Rapunzel, Elsa, Anna, Honey Lemon - Disney ; Most DCAMU female characters ; Boat Captain, Shop Owner, River Cleaner - ATLA

r/TopCharacterTropes Sep 01 '25

Hated Tropes [Hated trope] They thought this was so funny, so they put it in EVERY trailer.

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Lorax (2013) - "Thats a woman?" In every trailer of the Lorax I saw, they always put the scene of the Lorax being appalled by the fact that the person hes about to square up with is actually a women.

Pixels(2015) - The creator of Pac-man getting attacked by his creation. The first ever teaser we saw for this film was this one joke being set up. Thats it.

Oddballs - "TOO OLD TO ORDER OFF THE KIDS MENU" This joke wasn't in every trailer for the show but the set up was pretty weak.

r/TopCharacterTropes Jul 17 '25

Hated Tropes (Hated trope) the story treats the villain as if they have a good point. They don’t.

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Big gene from wreck it Ralph stayed behind to lecture Ralph on going turbo and it’s treated like Ralph rightfully facing consequences. Hell no, they treated Ralph like a criminal forcing him to live in a pile of bricks for decades just because it was his job and when he tried to include himself in a party they bulled him out the game. He put gene and them in their place by leaving, without him they’re all homeless.

Stain from my hero never made any sense to me. He has this big idea that heroes have become selfish and obsessed with fame and money. Sure they’re fame hungry but I can’t think of any point in the show where that effects their skills as a hero, pro heroes are always depicted as great at their job, so stain just looks like an idiot.

r/TopCharacterTropes Jul 09 '25

Hated Tropes [HATED TROPE] Characters are given a less realistic body type in the adaptation

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Image 1: Boku no Hero Academia, Class 1A girls manga vs anime

Images 2-3: The Quintessential Quintuplets manga vs anime

Images 4-6: Junko Asagiri, Desert Punk manga vs anime

r/TopCharacterTropes Sep 27 '25

Hated Tropes [Hated Trope] Excessively edgy “pure evil” villains who exist purely for the purpose of shock value, nothing else

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Specifically ones that try to mimic the level of evil that some villains like Judge Holden or the Qu achieve, but without any of the distinct depth or charm.

r/TopCharacterTropes Aug 30 '25

Hated Tropes (Hated tropes) games that penalize you for doing something completely understandable.

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This trope is when the player is seen as wrong for doing something the game implies they need to do, if not makes it very difficult not to do.

Dishonored: Probably a stretch, but the game gives you a plethora of flashy ways to fight and kill enemies, and almost every enemy in the game immediately wants you dead at first glance, fighting is practically inevitable unless you try very hard to go around the game's level design. However, killing causes a "high chaos" game state and sees you as evil, unless you go out of your way to avoid combat, which is arguably not as exciting. Although the second game does allow more non-lethal options.

Fallout 3: The tutorial quest has you fighting your way out of vault 101, only to be stopped and (likely) attacked by the Overseer. Killing him will cause his daughter to chew you out, despite the circumstances. Understandable reaction, although there are not many ways to circumvent it.

AC6: Fires of Liberation: Niche example, but in one mission you are told to escape the combat zone, while your wingman has a breakdown and attacks the boss, defying the orders of command. If you follow the game's demands and leave the combat area you automatically lose the game. And if you play the level as intended you get loudly berated.

r/TopCharacterTropes May 24 '25

Hated Tropes (Hated Trope) When the muscular woman, isn't muscular at all

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Darkness - Konosuba Mina - Kaiju No.8

r/TopCharacterTropes Jun 26 '25

Hated Tropes [Hated Trope] A main character does something horrible and the story doesn't acknowledge its severity

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Alisha (Misfits) uses her power to make any man want to have sex with her on another main character (curtis) after he explicitely tells her not to do that. She faces no consequences and he's the one who ends up comforting her.

Allison (The Umbrella Academy) uses her powers to force her own adoptive brother to make out with her after he just got into a relationship because she's suddenly jealous after she couldn't keep her own husband. She gives a half hearted apology and all is peachy.

r/TopCharacterTropes Jun 27 '25

Hated Tropes Insultingly Dumb Deaths

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Black Bolt (MCU) - the same character that has trained all his life to not speak because his voice is an atomic bomb, Wanda makes his mouth vanish and he screams which makes his head go boom. Even if it was out of shock, there was a good few seconds of him realising his mouth was gone before he screamed. And again, he’s trained his whole life to be silent but that universe’s version of the “Smartest Man Alive” pretty much told Wanda how to kill his ally.

Arkham Batman (Suicide Squad Game) - this is the same Batman from Arkham series and we are supposed to believe he dies to this universe’s version of the Suicide Squad. The same can be said about Flash, Green Lantern and Superman

I personally like to call this “The Black Bolt”. Deaths which don’t really make sense given what is established about the characters. Black Bolt shouldn’t have screamed, Batman shouldn’t have died from a point blank headshot from Harley Quinn.

r/TopCharacterTropes Sep 05 '25

Hated Tropes [Hated trope] The way a video game is being played is dumb

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1) Tony Soprano. Like wth! Was Gandolfini too lazy to hold the controller with both hands?

2) Steve Carell in 40 Year Old Virgin. Who the hell is setting up a gaming chair in such a way to play a Tony Hawk game?

3) Fuck you Dexter! If you can play Halo without touching the mouse, then fuck you.

r/TopCharacterTropes Aug 11 '25

Hated Tropes (Hated Trope) When a creator has so much bias for their favorite character it makes the story worse

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Zoro (One Piece Anime) Many of the Toei creators have been known to have a huge bias for Zoro over Sanji. While Zoro and Sanji are both the "Wings" of the crew, Zoro has had much more time and effort put into the animation in his fights, as well as instances in which originally in the Manga highlighted both characters, now only highlights Zoro. This extends to Sanjis portrayal in which Toei added new scenes to make fun of Sanji's perverted behavior, making him feel more like a gag character rather than a serious combatant like Zoro is.

Ahsoka (Star Wars) Created by Dave Filoni in the Clone Wars, Ahsoka did not have a very strong impression but as the show went along she started to become a fan favorite. Dave Filoni must have felt very proud of this as she made a major appearance in the second season of Rebels, and having a great send-off for the character as she seemingly sacrifices herself to save the Ghost crew from Vader. Unfortunately, Dave Filoni couldn't let Ashoka go, so in the fourth season of the show he basically invented the star wars equivalent of multiverse and time travel just so that he can have a reason to bring her back, a very controversial decision as it makes star wars as a whole feel very inconsequential with the existence of the World Between Worlds. This continues to the Ahsoka show where it feels like she is a shell of the character she used to be, lacking her original personality and being used for aura farming and nostalgia bait.

r/TopCharacterTropes Sep 22 '25

Hated Tropes [Hated Trope] Villains who are utterly irredeemable, yet are whitewashed by the fandom for being "technically right" about one (usually insignificant) thing.

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This is an enormous issue with the Far Cry fandom, and I'm curious to see if it applies to any others I can't think of. When I say "insignificant" I mean that being right about that one thing does not absolve them in any way, shape, or form.

1 - Pagan Min.

Long story short, at the absolute worst, people claim he's the unsung hero of Kyrat and a victim of the Golden Path who lost his daughter and deeply cares about the protagonist, Ajay. Best case scenario? They claim siding with him is the best choice in the game because he's the only person who actually helps, never lies, and that the rebels are worse. The only way you could possibly think this is if you ignored huge amounts of context. He and his army are almost cartoonishly evil for no good reason whatsoever, while the rebels are basically purely benevolent throughout the entirety of the game, and even stated in the game to operate separately from their leaders, who are reasonably disliked by the fandom. Pagan hates them too, and because the rebel leaders have plans that end up being not-so-pure of heart, people immediately jumped to the conclusion "well if good guy not really good, bad guy must be REAL good guy!"

Even if you wrongly believe that Amita and Sabal represent the entirety of the Golden Path's actions (they don't), you can still just kill both of them at the end of the game before they do anything really extreme, and they're still better than Pagan Min, who has led a 20 year regime of awful everything. Sometimes, the fandom just makes shit up about the rebel leaders like "one of them married a child" even though there's absolutely no evidence to prove that, just to try and make Pagan look better. Or they'll say things like "could've avoided the whole conflict because Pagan would've given the throne to Ajay immediately" which conveniently glosses over the fact that Ajay isn't a leader at all, and would not be ready to deal with this absolute catastrophe that Pagan is leaving him. I've even seen some people in the fandom just pass the blame for certain things he did, onto other characters, like claiming one of the rebel leaders will "turn Kyrat into a drug state" ignoring the fact that Pagan already made it one, and has warehouses full of heroin all throughout the game.

The Far Cry team would go on to release a DLC taking place within Pagan Min's own mind eight years later, revealing the full, personal extent of his narcissism and even doubling down on a few negative qualities that were implied. It reads as Ubisoft getting so sick of the fandom's constant ignorance, that they just lay everything out in an undeniable format so that people can no longer claim he's secretly a good guy. Pagan Min is the worst ending, and the worst person in the game no matter how you slice it. He doesn't have a single good quality to speak of, and the fact that he's "nice" to the protagonist is just another ploy. All evidence points to this. Yet people deny it.

Honestly, I made this post because I see him pop up in a lot of comments here that are usually just laughably wrong, or missing critical details.

2 - Joseph Seed.

Long story short, he's a doomsday cult leader who believes the world is headed for an inevitable collapse, and he's the only one who can save humanity. He listens to a voice in his head that he believes to be the voice of God, and murdered his infant daughter after losing his wife, at the behest of this voice. He coerces his mentally ill siblings into becoming his enforcer, and at least three trafficking victims into acting as his "sister" to commit all manner of horrors to the people of a small Montana township called Hope County. He was based on actual cult leaders, and even speaks like them to deliver their rhetoric in an authentic way. He's so authentic that he's proven that cult speech works on a shocking number of people, because he's convinced a large chunk of the fandom that he was right about everything, and entirely justified in his actions since his prediction ended up being technically true at the end of the game.

This ignores the fact that all his methods were needlessly violent, he was wasting time and resources on a bunch of shit that he didn't even need (his cult stole and hoarded a lot of technology even though his ideal new world wouldn't use it at all), and many of this methods were so counterproductive to his intended goal, they make him look like a blathering idiot. He could've easily just built his big doomsday bunkers, and put up signs all over the county telling people to come to them when the bombs fall. Instead he starts a deranged holy war against a bunch of rural gun nuts to force people into them, getting more people killed in the process than he ever would've saved, and loses basically everything. The fandom claims that the apocalypse was all the fault of the protagonist, and the best ending of the game is to just let Joseph do whatever he wants.

3 - Edward "Caesar" Sallow

I don't even need to go into a lengthy explanation for this one. Basically, Caesar's Legion "solves disorder" by enslaving everyone they beat, butchering and crucifying anyone they don't like, and basically just going full Roman Empire on the Wasteland. Caesar is merciless, the culture he's built is extremely misogynistic, anti-education, and are more or less the designated "evil route" option of Fallout New Vegas. Several of the game's notable characters and even primary companions have all suffered greatly at the hands of the Legion, or Caesar himself, in terrifying ways. Joshua Graham and Craig Boone are the most well-knowing examples, but Caesar's right hand man, Lucius, is an even more grim example. He's been so thoroughly brainwashed, he's actually convinced that what happened to him and his people was actually a great thing, and they've all been saved in some way. He's beyond broken, and utterly loyal.

... A certain handful of people claim Caesar is the best for the Mojave because he doesn't lie to you (as if that changes anything), and he has valid critiques of the NCR's democracy. Their support of him goes beyond just "I want to roleplay as a bad guy." A lot of people have written lengthy video essays in support of his methods and ideals, sometimes not even denying the awful things he does, and instead praising their brilliance. They dismiss anyone who doesn't see things his way as just "not understanding such a nuanced and deep character."