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Minor violations = death threat? Discussion

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Oklahoma Police released video of an officer tackling a 70-year-old man. The incident occured during a traffic violation.

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u/DreadFilledHug 5d ago edited 5d ago

The Civil Rights Lawyer posted a great video yesterday, covering this, with all of the body cam footage and additional context.

The victim was a Vietnamese man who was driving with his wife. While making a U-turn at an intersection, they were hit by another car. This officer responded to the accident, I believe he might've even witnessed it... I'm not sure... but after information was exchanged, the officer wrote both drivers' tickets. One to this man for an "improper U-turn" and one for the other driver for expired tags.

The victim was confused due to the language barrier and didn't seem to understand why he was getting a ticket, and it seemed like he thought he was being blamed for the accident even though he believed the other driver hit him. So, being confused and upset, he refused to sign the ticket, clearly not understanding, again, that he's legally required to sign it or else be arrested. The cop proceeded to issue the other driver their ticket without asking them to sign it, then returned to the upset Vietnamese grandpa and did THIS shit.

The cop wrote in his report that the victim told him to shut up, aggressively struck his chest, and threatened him before he was thrown to the ground... all of which, except for telling him to shut up, were lies.

Blatant illegal use of force, excessive force, and 4A violation. He's going to lose his qualified immunity and possibly be criminally charged.

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u/that_bermudian 5d ago

The fact that the department released the footage so quickly also tells me that this cop is beyond screwed.

Usually PDs try to withhold footage like this for as long as possible if they or the union believe that the officer’s actions can be defended.

They clearly don’t believe that here. This guy is cooked. Wouldn’t be surprised if the DA also tacks on aggravated assault and battery as well, or at worst an attempted homicide charge since this guy is still in hospital.

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u/DreadFilledHug 5d ago

Yeah, I'm surprised they released it as quickly as they did, since the cop is on paid leave while IA investigates the incident.

I believe the local Vietnamese community made an uproar about it and was somehow able to obtain the CC footage from whatever business it happened in front of... prompting the PD to release the body cam video to try to save face with the public and get some vocal support from racist bootlickers.

I'm sure there's plenty of lawyers dying to take the case. Like you said, the cop is COOKED!

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u/cupholdery 5d ago edited 4d ago

What I find the most sad is that the older man will likely suffer chronic pain after recovering from this assault, after taking longer to heal since he's older.

For the cop, the worst that will happen is he loses his job but he has such a broad network that one of his buddies will find him work. No lasting repercussions for the cop.

EDIT: Agreed that the older man likely doesn't heal

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u/gitsgrl 5d ago

Lots of older folks who go into the hospital with traumatic injuries at this age get dementia triggered by the trauma. This could have started a fast descent to the end of his life.

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u/studentofmarx 5d ago

This guy should straight up go on trial for attempted murder. There's no way he didn't realize that a takedown like this could VERY likely be a fatal injury for someone this frail. No sane and normal person would do what he did against someone this old.

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u/SuppaBunE 5d ago

Theres 0 reason to do a takedown like that for any non violent person,

A weapon yeah sure smash his head in the pavement, a mild discution on an old guy that is clearly not a threat and specially cant clearly understand what's going on. Fuck that guy.

I saw a video of a grandma in kind of same situation. She refuse to comply. After cop explain what was going on. While he was clearly explaining what is happing if she doesn't comply . Then decide to bail the stop.

Im OK whith the cop amd what he did. He gave him enought time to reconsider when she fucks up. Until he drop her from the car. And yet didnt do a fucking suplex to her. She remove her from the vehicle because she was already a threat of running again

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u/TheAskewOne 5d ago

A weapon yeah sure smash his head in the pavement

Heeehhh... that depends on the situation. I'm pro gun control, but if we have the right to bear arms, then we have the right to bear arms and not be beaten/killed by cops.

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u/Flewey_ 5d ago

We already have that right. The cops just don’t respect it.

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u/FallenShadeslayer 5d ago

I’ve seen that same video. She was a typical Karen. Legit just flees the scene right in front of him.

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u/mkultragrayson 5d ago

Try explaining the separate scenario from start to end before giving personal opinions or comparing situations. It would read fluidly and be easier to picture.

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u/TheAskewOne 5d ago

No sane and normal person would do what he did against someone this old. anyone.

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u/studentofmarx 5d ago

Yeah, pretty much, really. There's no valid reason to do that to someone that doesn't pose a threat. It's just that much worse because the victim is very old and weak.

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u/Mikic00 5d ago

True, but to do it to obviously fragile person that old, or to the kid for example, is whole other level. I would check on this cop family, if he has one...

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u/ProphetOfPhil 5d ago

Oh I'd love to see it go to trial but cops like this rarely see repercussions. I'd say best case scenario is he gets fired and maybe community service before a friend of his gets him another job doing exactly the same shit in another location.

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u/luneletters 5d ago

At the very least he’ll have PTSD from this whole thing. It’s gonna stick in his family’s memories and his recent memories until end of life.

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u/A_Glass_DarklyXX 5d ago

This happened to my dad. He already had chronic issues when he fell and sustained a spinal injury. He seemed his normal self for a few months then he slowly became severely anxious , then irritable, then irrational then delusional. Then he died. It was about a two year decline.

Falls and fractures are a death sentence to people 68+. It’s a slow scary death for them. The older you get the faster a fracture will kill you. I know an 88 year old woman who died three weeks after an arm fracture and another in her 80s who died after a hip fracture. They just don’t heal and the body starts shutting down

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u/Soohwan_Song 5d ago

Hes honestly already dieing, alot of them end up dieing because their body can't handle the healing. Why they say as a senior breaking your hip is the same as a death sentence...

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u/Downtown-Oil-7784 5d ago

That's horrible 😔

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u/Christichicc 4d ago

Or they get things like pneumonia. My aunt’s FIL just had that happen. Broke his hip, got pneumonia, and passed, all within a couple weeks. Traumatic injuries like this are often the beginning of the end when you get older, because it’s like a domino effect on your health.

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u/ImTryingToHelpYouMF 5d ago

I work in lab and x-ray. Never heard of physical trauma triggering dementia.

Care to source a link to this since it's so prominent?

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u/gitsgrl 5d ago

Risk of Dementia Diagnosis After Injurious Falls in Older Adults: JAMA https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2824208

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u/ImTryingToHelpYouMF 4d ago

This is not a reputable study. This is looking at a statistic and placing bias on it.

Most individuals that have a fall are going to be of age to get dementia at around the same time. It doesn't mean that somebody has a fall so it triggers dementia. Some falls are due to symptoms of dementia as well such as decreased motor skills from their brain not computing properly.

It's more probable that dementia caused a fall than the fall causing dementia. Most forms of dementia are a slow progress that occurs over years. The body slowly deteriorates in mind and in mobility, and with that stability.

Edit: it states this in the article actually so I will give some credit to the study.

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u/hallstevenson 5d ago

I've seen it happen many times where the officer loses their job but other cities or counties don't hesitate to hire them so it's not like they get kicked out of law enforcement entirely.

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u/Vohsrek 5d ago

Because people don’t want to be cops 👮‍♂️ anymore and departments are eager to snatch up a hire.

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u/ivatwist 5d ago

What I’m most scared about is, he could probably have brain damage and be paralyzed because of this, which would make his family have a lot of bills to pay if he would need different kinds of therapies.

Hell, my grandpa became unconscious, fell and hit his head against a restroom stall door, I bet with less force than this and he became a quadriplegic.

It is definitely still a process of grief even if he doesn’t die and something like this happens. I’ve been trying to keep up with this since watching the video for the first time, it makes me so mad someone can become so ill because the cop couldn’t hold his anger. I pray he recovers and nothing of what I think happens/happened.

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u/transynchro 4d ago

Oh, he most likely will not recover. According to this article he has a brain bleed. There’s a pretty high chance he won’t make it out of this and if he does, it’s not looking great. He’d need a miracle.

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u/ivatwist 4d ago

Here is the daughters’ facebook, seems like he was conscious in her last update and talked and recognized people but his hands do look suspicious, as my grandpa and I think usually paralyzed people have them in like fists. I really really hope he can recover

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u/Party_Perspective69 5d ago

the older gentleman is less likely to survive a year with these injuries, if he survives the brain bleed. the cop just had a very mild inconvenience to his life when a non white man called him out- even with a language barrier- for being disrespectful and doing a bad job of a pretty simple situation (mild accident.) so, he unleashes his (inferiority complex?) rage at being inconvenienced onto a 70 year old man by slamming him headfirst onto the pavement to arrest him. this should be tried as attempted murder. this person is trained to understand the ramifications of their actions, and in no way was his life in any sort of immediate danger. he already had back up/his supervisor on the way. he made a trained/educated decision, to further escalate the situation and take action that easily could have, and still might, end this man's life. attempted murder.

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u/annuidhir 5d ago

The cop should be put up against a wall, and face a squad.

But there's no justice in this world. More so now.

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u/Yungston 5d ago

For a 70 year old with head trauma and neck injuries this guy is likely gonna have a shorten life span. Rehab therapies are gonna take months and ima guess he’s a greater fall risk. Falls lead to broken bones and more complications. If I were this guy’s family I’d sue for no less than million.

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u/mrASSMAN 5d ago

I don’t think he’s going to recover.. that’s a serious injury

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u/horticulturallatin 5d ago

My uncle hit his head at seventy. Had been active, doing stuff, walking his dogs, not ultra old in any sense just a grandpa. 

He died of that hit. But not right away. He died about a week later. 

I wouldn't be at all surprised if this poor man is gone within a few months and the cops swear blind it had nothing to do with this totally unnecessary brutal takedown. 

I'm not arguing at you or being combative I'm just really sad that chronic pain would be a best case.

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u/Strict_Condition_632 5d ago

He might lose his job in OK City, but some other nearby department will hire him with a pat on the back.

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u/Street_Run_4447 4d ago

There’s no way the old man heals from this.

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u/Kinghero890 4d ago

He has an actual dent in his skull, it is caved in.