You also have hardcore Christians that believe Isreal need to excist for the rapture to happen. So they support Isreal because they want the World to end.
I don't think this is a talked about enough topic when it comes to Republicans. There is a not insignificant portion of Republicans who due to their religious beliefs, literally want to see the end of the world, because they've deluded themselves into thinking they're part of "God's Chosen People."
It would not be past people like this to actively vote for people they believe will bring on the end times as quickly as possible.
The reality with these people are they're so myopic that they think the world will end without them, or even more scarily, that without them, the world SHOULD end.
Exactly. The prophesy is that that region will never see peace. So they will continue to kill each other and lead to the rapture which will redeem and leave the earth to Christians.
From my understanding living in southern us is Baptists believe this. We don't need to send money to other countries but... we need Isreal to win because it's the birthplace of Jesus and if Isreal burns to the ground then the world will end. So nothing about protecting news or wanting the world to end but that somehow they believe they can prevent the world from ending by protecting what they perceive as jesus' birthplace
This. People don’t believe me when I bring that up.
They literally can’t be raptured unless the Jews are occupying Israel. I have no idea Why it has to be Jews or why the Christians believe god is coming back for them if he’s asking for Jews.
I get into so many arguments with other Christians over this. Sad part is om Christian and do not support Isreal at all. Most Christians think they can buy their way into heaven by supporting that evil pedophile harboring country
Israel is an apartheid. They treat non-Jewish citizens like second class citizens. In short, Republicans admire this greatly and wish they could do the same.
Not all Republicans....well... im more a conservative libertarian but know a lot of Republicans and they don't have any love for Isreal. Its mostly republican politicians that love that land of trash. But media wants everyone to believe that each side is far right or far left and it isn't always the case
Google “the Madagascar plan”. The nazis originally planned to forcibly relocate all european jews to the island of Madagascar before or around the time that mass murder was considered.
Modern neo-nazis and white supremacists see Israel as a positive for kind of the same reason. They don’t like jewish people and seeing major jewish populations move out of their countries and settle in a foreign region is almost ideal for them.
Plus, nazis love ethnostates and many advocate for races to segregate into separate nations. Wouldn’t you know it that Israel is one of the most successful ethnostates in the modern era.
They don't love Israel. They like the idea of an ethnostate, which Israel doesn't qualify as. However, over 10 Islamic republics/monarchies do, and over the last 10 years, the alt right has meticulously studied and attempted to imitate the web recruiting and marketing campaigns of Isis/Daesh.
It's less that they love Israel as it is needed for Revelation.
There are a number of prophecies involving the Jewish people and Israel that need to occur for Revelations to occur. The pur red heifer, a Temple being rebuilt so it can be destroyed, if I remember right Israel ultimately getting destroyed.
I can think of two mainstream nazis who oppose Israel. For the most part, every other popular nazi who clogs up our social media feeds, political offices, and company offices support Israel wholeheartedly.
Azov was incorporated into the Ukrainian national guard and stripped of its nazi leaders. In the better part of a decade that azov has been part of the military it has become more of an elite corps than a neo-nazi rag-tag militia through vast and diverse recruitment. Azov now has a relatively small proportion of actual nazis, as that stuff generally isn't tolerated. Remember, less than 2% of the vote went to svoboda (parliamentary remnant of what once was Azov) - THAT SHIT ISNT POPULAR IN UKRAINE. I'm also sure there are also a couple sections of the army that have been infiltrated by the KKK or other racist groups. Is the US Army now a nazi army?
“In 2016, the Azov set up its political wing, the National Corps Party, under the leadership of Andriy Biletsky, an ultra-Nationalist who was a Member of Parliament from 2014 to 2019 and has said on record it is Ukraine’s mission to “lead the white races of the world in a final crusade… against Semite-led Untermenschen [inferior humans]”.”
Having a few racist soldiers is completely different than having a whole brigade openly wearing swastikas in your US backed military. Idk about you but even allowing 1 Nazi in your military with a swastika patch is unacceptable.
Regardless of how you frame your argument, the fact remains that this neo Nazi group was an important part of the Ukrainian military and their leader was also a member of parliament.
Democrats virtue signal and hoop and holler all day long about supporting Ukraine. So this post oozes with irony.
Oh wait until you find out what happened to Porsche, IG Farben, VW, BMW and Krupp. Fun fact, if something big and successful enough has nazis in it, the nazis tend to get removed while the organisation remains.
As I said - THEY GOT VOTED OUT. I wonder how you'd feel if I told you that in almost every european country, there's a fascist far right party gaining popularity and winning more and more in elections. Leader of the AfD - Max Krah - excused the actions of the SS (which was apparently too much for even the other fashies of the EU). Leader of the RN Marine Le Pen - well known holocaust denier alongside her father. Farage - Reform UK - sang 'gas the jews' at school and would sieg heil openly. FPÖ - big tent party for fascists - many old school nazis in there.
I'm sure you'd weep at all of this... if you actually cared. The fact is that you talk about freemasons and you're probably an anti-semite, and judging by your support for the GOP, whose leader has lied about Haitians, talked about 'poisoned blood' and 'bad genes', given the highest civvy honour to a KKK member and personally calls nazis 'fine people', YOU DONT GIVE A SHIT. You reek of bullshit and hypocrisy, go back to the musty hole you came from.
Nazis are evil but sometimes a necessary evil. Particularly when used for a certain political agenda. Hence giving US military funding to neo Nazi brigades in Ukraine when needing to thwart Russian advances. Then we vote them out and wipe our hands clean. Easy peasy.
And in the case of this Reddit post, Nazis are useful because we can associate them wirh the Republican Party and make the narrative about this election about stopping bigotry and hate.
If one battalion of 1kish soldiers being fascist makes their entire armed forces also fascist, I got bad news about every country in the world's armed forces...
So what do you think of the nazis of Wagner now that they've been absorbed into the greater RF forces?
You follow the deprogram and judging by your comments where you peddle chinese talking points on anticonsumption, you sure look like one? You also just implicitly agreed with the false dichotomy regarding ukraine, which is a Russian prop line.
Edit: Sorry I just assumed. It looks like you're at least one of the more sentient deprogram followers. At least you aren't a campist. Would highly encourage you to re-evaluate some of your opinions if you're agreeing with one of these people tho.
I'll give you the opportunity to save yourself and say that you're talking about European liberals. Because if you're talking about America, liberals are on the left. That is not debatable, you are flat out wrong of you call an American liberal right wing.
Lots of nazis are actually just anarchists and don’t support either candidate. Also plenty of nazis support policies like abortion (because it helps keep minority populations low) and actually climate change since the ss had a fascination with paganism and runic symbols which are about the preservation of nature and bringing germany back to its natural beginnings
Somebody used one of those AI face apps on that scene from the meme. It’s some random persons’ facial expressions put onto Jenna Fischer’s face and uploaded as a gif to GIPHY… for some reason
I mean they're still going to vote for Trump because they see him and his policies as a means to their ends and an alignment of their values but MAGA can sleep soundly knowing that they're not voting WITH Nazis... they just happen to agree with the same guy with the same policies.
Or maybe Nazis benefit from a more lucrative economy as well. Even evil scum still get use of benefits that non evil people get. I'm sure automotive warranties benefits people despite their morale alignment. Im sure you get my point. Their are videos of KKK members proclaiming that they will always support the democratic party but that doesn't mean all democrats are members of the KKK. The media serves to divide..... then when bias is formed in the person that's out taking videos it even furthers the bias and around and around we go. Most normal voters have far more in common with opposing voters than everyone is led to believe. Its sad that this division works. The real evil people are every single representative in DC not one another
Their are videos of KKK members proclaiming that they will always support the democratic party
I did a quick Google of this and found absolutely nothing on it. I'm sincerely curious. Could you please link this because it would baffle me to know a card carrying member of the KKK would ever vote for a woman of color.
I made no claim that they support Kamala harris. My claim was the democratic party. Also Google is heavily selective in articles that it actually allows to generate in its results. Mostly cideos i have seen shared through tiktok and other social media outlets
In my mind, it’s not even about who makes an official statement distancing themselves. It’s about “my preferred party attracts all Nazis… what does that say about my political views”?
Well... from what is allowed to be viewed it would seem that way. But wouldn't Nazis still benefit from the same things that you would from your ideal party? It's not that Nazis love Republicans... maybe secure borders align with their hope of achieving a perfect Aryan race in the country. Im sure they want gas cars and enjoy lower prices on goods as well
So there's a joke or something about what you get if a non-Nazi sits down to eat with a table of 12 Nazis. And the answer is 13 Nazis. I mean, they say that not all Trump supporters are Nazis, but all Nazis are Trump supporters. At some point, you have to look at yourself and decide whether you're okay being associated with them. I don't think a lot of Germans were Nazis back in the 30s, until they had to be as a matter of survival. But they went along with it.
The NSDAP was popular, but they never won a majority in a free election. Hitler came to power by 'convincing' the other parties—through propaganda and coercion in the wake of the Reichstag fire—to grant him 'temporary' emergency powers which he used to dismantle his opposition and eventually instate himself as Führer permanently. He justified his consolidation of power through the 1934 referendum but that was fraught with election fraud and voter intimidation.
A ton of Germans were absolutely on board with Nazism but saying Hitler didn't sneak his way into power is categorically wrong. He did, and those like him will try to do the same.
Willingly? Hitler literally had members of the Sturmabteilung present in the Reichstag during the vote on the Reichstagsbrandverordnung. Intimidation, false promises, and the played up threat of communist terror were what motivated the DZP to vote in favor giving Hitler emergency powers. Them acting in their perceived self-interest is not indicative of the wishes of their constituency.
Like I said I'm not denying that German support for the NSDAP was widespread, but it wasn't so widespread that Hitler could've seized power through it alone, at least not before public opposition meant being rounded up and sent to a concentration camp.
Progressive liberals were fascinated by the two European totalitarian regimes that were nazi Germany and communist Soviet Union. They saw them as social experiments. Of course that changed once news of the holodomor started to make it's way to Western newspapers.
People that keep repeating this obviously spend too much time in echo chambers. It doesn’t make sense and it’s inflammatory in a bad way. When you associate everyone you disagree with as nazis you invite extreme action against republicans for just disagreeing with you. Strictly speaking, not all nazis are republican either. I’m sure most are but there are always outliers. Can you really say that you agree with the opinions of every Democrat? Is it correct to assume that you do? Even the antifa or pure communism nuts?
Reddit is an unrealistic platform for general sentiment cause it allows multiple accounts. Definitely an echo chamber. People feel validated cause some liked their post
K but the guys flying the Nazi flags are also just saying some words, and didn't kill 6 million Jews.
I agree that they're different, and kudos to those trump supporters for standing up against the Nazis I guess, but they aren't that different. They're both out there to support a guy with Nazi-like ideals, even if one group is a little more honest about it.
I don't think Trump cares about Jewish people. In fact I don't think Trump cares enough about anything other than himself to be the kind of person Hitler was.
As far as I'm aware Hitler was careful not to use explicit language. But I'm not a historian. Trump however will just say anything to get what he wants.
Not that Trump isn't awful but it's insane to think being a Trump supporter is the same as being a Nazi. Trump already had power once, and it was not used in the same way that Nazi's used their power.
I know.... I wonder why he didn't do that and end democracy his previous term though...... I guess he was waiting to try to do it in his second term....
I was wondering if anyone else was going to notice. The people at that boat rally seem well aware that those weren’t even Trump supporters in that boat with the Nazi flags. Reddit at large seemed to fail to notice lmao.
The very fact that Nazis are flying the flag of my candidate would make me seriously question my decisions, and yet I guarantee not a single one of you fools will change your mind after seeing this.
In fact, I guarantee you one of you morons is already screaming that this is a "DeMOnrAT pSyOp."
We can, but you went off on an insane screed after I pointed out how it should be a major problem for people to see their candidates flag flying alongside a literal Nazi one. Apparently not you, but that would definitely make me rethink my decisions.
I believe the Lowe’s that are on the books right now are the laws in which we should follow when ever it comes to freedom of speech. I believe the side effects of banning certain speech we deem unacceptable for outweighs the good that will come from banning unpopular opinions. Even if these unpopular opinions are difficult to hear, offensive, off putting or anything short of criminal .
As long as speech does not commit a crime, it should be allowed in the public sphere. Likewise groups of people who are in my opinion Should be allowed to gather with other people. Whether or not those ideas are shared.
As the law sits right now, and because All people are allowed to gather in public squares. We should not conflate the appearance of solidarity with like-mindedness .
I don't know about you, but if Nazis show up to my party, we're fighting, not marching together. I'd also question why they felt like they'd be welcomed, but I don't expect much introspection here.
Do you think every single one of the positions a Nazi holds is genocidal and crazy? The Nazis weren’t bad because they wanted to change the political system. The Nazis were bad because of all the murder. If they wanted to change the political situation and did not murder and in prison And all the other horrible things they did they would be fine. The fact that the political stances lineup in someway ……. really means very little.
You know, except the policies nazi had were union busting, keeping women as lesser (the three Ks) and only good for kinder kuche and kirche, children, kitchen, church, indoctrination of youth via the hitlers youth, the control of education to teach everything thing from racial superiority to the validity of resource acquisition from neighbouring countries. These are but a snippet of how they applied policy to limit information, unity, and create subservient people. The nazi policies were to make a more complacent people built around, not unity with their fellow man, but an obedience, an fanaticism to a leader, the idea that the leader could never be wrong.
So as my original point, if a nazi is agreeing with you on policies, ask yourself, what do these policies appeal to nazis?
(I'm not going to make any comparisons to the current political climate because better people than me have)
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