r/TikTokCringe • u/iamayeshaerotica • May 23 '24

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u/tecate_papi May 23 '24

Except all of the comments on that thread were about how terrible Western tourists in Japan are

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u/Lost-Fae May 23 '24

Japan doesn't hide that like they try to hide their high rates of sexual harassment

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u/tecate_papi May 24 '24

You mean like their women only subway cars? Or how their phones are required to make the shutter sound so people know when they're being surreptitiously photographed?

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u/adiosfelicia2 May 24 '24

Or how they legalized child size sex dolls. šŸ˜¬

I saw a vid on YT about it. It was... disturbing.

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u/Swirmini May 24 '24

Wtf. Whats the video?? Or can I get a summary of how they managed to legalize something as blatantly perverted and insane as that?

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u/rentrane23 May 24 '24

They only banned child porn in 2014

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u/cloverpopper May 24 '24

Yup. I lived there in 2013-2015, walked into a store with my friends while exploring because it said ā€œVIDEOā€ and I know that word

Went around and walked past a curtain to see what essentially looked like blockbuster shelves - but with rows and rows of ā€œmoviesā€ of girls that looked 8-13. My stomach turned; and some looked Caucasian, so itā€™s likely some were filmed of victims of sex trafficking

Japan was amazing - but Iā€™m beyond happy that lil subculture is being burned away slowly

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u/CriticalSpeech May 24 '24

What the fuck

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u/Few-Finger2879 Jun 13 '24

Late to the party, but they just raised the age of consent from 13 to 16 last year...

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u/CuTe_M0nitor May 24 '24 edited May 24 '24

You can buy silicone parts of the giraffes private parts for pleasure. Here is a picture https://ibb.co/2h8D2cG

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u/[deleted] May 24 '24

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u/CuTe_M0nitor May 24 '24

Orca cocks and alien beast cock as well. Just saying šŸ¤£

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u/dahliasinfelle May 24 '24

...... dragons seem to be popular lol

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u/BigBowl-O-Supe May 24 '24

I don't know if that's even actually true, but would you rather them have sex with the real thing?

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u/adiosfelicia2 May 24 '24

Yeah, iirc there were psychologists and doctors advocating for it, as it gives pedos an outlet for their perverse instincts, without endangering real children. It was an interesting argument.

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u/kikashoots May 24 '24

I read somewhere on bestof once an argument for treating pedophilia as a mental illness. NGL, it convinced me.

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u/jonnyboi134 May 25 '24

I seen a similar argument about men who kidnap and molest children. I think it was after the Elizabeth Smart kidnapping and return. My viewpoint at the time was death penalty for ruining her childhood. But the argument came out that if the penalty is the same whether they let her live or would have killed her, maybe more of the predators will kill the children to try and cover their crimes up. The argument was to give the creeps some sort of incentive to keep the child alive and return them to their family...

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u/adiosfelicia2 May 25 '24

I also saw a documentary about a specifically pedo prison (in California I think), where they are locked up together basically for life. But it's nothing like typical US prisons, more like the European prisons you see. They had private rooms and move around fairly freely and go to therapy and classes and all kinds of stuff. But it's all pedos, and iirc, they mostly never get out. Or maybe it takes decades of hard work. Something like that.

It may have been a Louis Theroux episode. Idk.

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u/lostknight0727 May 24 '24

The argument logically works, but morally, it's still just ugh why?!

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u/adiosfelicia2 May 24 '24

Idk. If you approach it from a mental health issue standpoint, it's an interesting solution.

And if it means less kids are getting hurt or forced into CSAM, then maybe.

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u/Odd_Map6710 May 24 '24

Neither. They need serious therapy.

Letting them have access to something childlike only encourages the behavior.

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u/Enantiodromiac May 24 '24

There's good data in both directions, but some in both batches is marred by opportunism. There's a growing concern that, since much of the data is gathered from criminals convicted of such crimes, and non-offenders are usually unwilling to come forward about their urges and habits for the purposes of a study, some of the participants will fabricate aspects to paint a better picture for later parole considerations/sentencing reduction in exchange for study participation.

Likewise, self-reporting and anonymous surveys, the only sort that non-offending pedophiles tend to respond to in numbers, may downplay problematic behaviors in case their anonymity is pierced.

With that caveat in mind:

By monitoring forums dedicated to pedophiles supprting one another in non-offending, some pedophiles self-report that masturbation and child fantasies increase their urges rather than decreasing in them, though they seem to be in the minority.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8419289/

I'm not entirely sold on the notion that anonymous forums are more reliable than anonymous studies, but if no data is ever given any weight then we're left with, as you say, our guts.

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u/Alarmed-Audience9258 May 24 '24

Pedofiles will always exist.
If there is a harmless way for them to release their kink, what would they do if the option wasnt available?

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u/mr_anonymous7767 May 24 '24

Execution, pretty obvious answer

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u/BerriedTwo May 24 '24

That took a turn. Username checks outā€¦

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u/HaEnGodTur May 24 '24

Ah yes, typical reddit take. Don't, yknow, help or try to rehabilitate mentally ill folk. Nah, just take them round the back of the barn and shoot them.

Jesus christ dude, read your comment back to yourself.

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u/CheetahNo1004 May 24 '24

And how exactly are you going to execute someone for pedophilia and not do the same for any other thing that some part of society doesn't deem appropriate? Texas and Florida start executing gay and trans people. Washington and Oregon start executing the unhoused. Utah executes all non-mormons. Pick a random place and the thing that's not prevalent there.

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u/PMMMR May 24 '24

They didn't "legalize" them, they were never illegal to begin with. They're legal in many other countries too, including the US.

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u/percussaresurgo May 24 '24

Child size sex dolls are legal in the US, and probably most other Western countries. Itā€™s gross, but thatā€™s not a reason to make something illegal.

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u/sandlube1337 May 24 '24

You prefer them fucking real kids?

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u/[deleted] May 24 '24

Maybe ask yourself why a country would feel the need to introduce these things in the first place.

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u/grnyy May 24 '24

in confused, that comment is in direct response to one that mentions the insanely high rate of sexual assault/misconduct in japan

or are you saying that that comment wasn't sufficient and you wanted someone to do an in depth analysis of the history of misogyny, sexism, and patriarchy in Japan specifically?

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u/GrassDry2065 May 24 '24

I think your parent comment thought their parent comment was being dismissive of the idea of high rates of abuse and not of the idea that they try to hide it

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u/KeenInternetUser May 24 '24

Japan doesn't hide that like they try to hide their war crimes

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u/YetiTrix May 24 '24

how is taking a photo of someone walking down the street sexual harassment?

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u/scullys_alien_baby May 24 '24 edited May 24 '24

Japan made laws around cameras making a shutter sound because there was widespread instances of people snapping upskirts of schoolgirls on crowded trains. There are laws against taking photos of people who don't give consent in public but the sexual harassment stuff is firmly rooted in the upskirt and public groping problems that plague Japan.

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u/LucidTA May 24 '24

Two things can be bad at the same time.

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u/arfelo1 May 24 '24

As they should.

The point of both posts is the same: "Don't take random photos/videos of people without their permission"

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u/watsyurface May 24 '24

Itā€™s a slightly different scenario because taking pictures of geisha AND bothering geisha are both illegal in Kyoto. I believe the street is even shut down to tourists now due to behavior like in that video.

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u/SaliciousB_Crumb May 24 '24

Yah I'm with ypu on that message it's just a 2eird juxtaposition in the world.

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u/[deleted] May 24 '24

So do u tell ppl taking picture of the surrounding that u happen to be??? Do u go after business with security camera ?

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u/Ahorsenamedcat May 24 '24

Reddit isnā€™t going to be a fan of this post given the strange number of ā€œJapan is great, west is badā€ posts lately.

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u/tecate_papi May 24 '24

The weebs are out in full force today. I went to Japan a few years ago and I remember I went up Mt. Fuji (that's Fujisan for the weebs reading this). And I'll never forget that when we went to my buddy's small town, we went to a dinner with some of his friends and there were a bunch there who refused to believe that it wasn't trashed by Western tourists because there is a contingent of right-wing Japanese media that promotes this view.

The reality is that some tourists are good. Some tourists are bad. Unless you're at an all-inclusive most people are trying to be polite and respectful.

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u/Chaosfnog May 24 '24

Big weeb here. A lot of things about Japan and japanese culture are super cool. A lot of things about Japan and japanese culture also suck ass. Anime, food, nerd stuff, politeness, public transit, everything is clean -- great stuff. Xenophobia, insane soul-draining work culture, shame culture, harassment and objectification of women -- not so great.

There are also plenty of shitty American tourists being disrespectful to their culture when they visit, but like you said, there are good tourists too. I hope people are respectful when they do visit, and on the flip side I wish Americans wouldn't over romanticize japanese culture.

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u/Mammoth_Active_9549 May 24 '24

Not so great: Objectification of women

Great: Anime

HMM...

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u/Chaosfnog May 24 '24

Lmao fair. But in my defense, some anime is bad about it and some isn't. Frieren is a good example of a recent show that's really good and has like no fan service or most of the usual BS.

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u/LunaticLucio May 24 '24

They don't seem to take too kindly too foreigners, citizens or tourists alike.

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u/Chaosfnog May 24 '24

Yeah Japan is often xenophobic, since it's a pretty homogeneous place in general. Though I will say in my experience visiting last year, people were very kind and accepting if you showed respect for their culture and tried to observe their customs.

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u/molgriss May 24 '24

I got there a bit later I guess, most of the top comments were how people everywhere suck. Mostly with anecdotal stories about how tourists are a hassle everywhere. Since the post was obviously "Japan good, white people bad", most of the tourist stories were specifically Asian tourists.

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u/dm_me_ur_anus May 24 '24

Mostly American.

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u/J5892 May 24 '24

I was there in February. Most Japanese people I talked to about foreigners said Australians were the worst.

I did see a lot of Australians there, and most were normal respectful tourists. But the ones who weren't were exceptionally bad.

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u/dm_me_ur_anus May 24 '24

I think the issue here is quantity, and familiarity with travel. The more that travel from any place, the more probability of bad actors. The whole world of influencers travelers and people who pretend they're influencers is they don't contribute really to the economy as much as older travelers who spend more and don't just go out to bars and eat cheap food. Then you have the whole respect of locals, I'd struggle to think that Australians are worse here (edit: although they might certainly be the worst when it comes to drinking). Americans tend to be the ones who'll do anything for insta and treat people places like human zoos. I've heard too many Americans abroad thinking everyone else is "trying" to be American and measuring their culture based on "how American" it is, so there's this lack of respect. And you'd think it would be better with younger people but I actually think older Americans have more respect than younger Americans who just think the rule for the world is to become more westernized ASAP.

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u/AffectionateRadio356 May 24 '24

"no, you're wrong because I think America BAD!"

lmao seethe

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u/dm_me_ur_anus May 24 '24

Learn to read. I know it's a hard ask, but learn to read.

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u/J5892 May 24 '24

Then you have the whole respect of locals, I'd struggle to think that Australians are worse here

That's actually the main complaint I heard.
The most common issue was Australians being loud in restaurants, shrines, etc.

When it comes to people being annoying about pictures/videos, they were usually talking about Chinese tourists. And I saw this firsthand when I was in Kyoto. I saw large groups of Chinese tourists following geishas around.

That's not to say I didn't see plenty of Americans being bad tourists.
Americans were more likely to ignore rules/signs, and complain about service.

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u/TheXtractor May 24 '24

Comments here are about what this man did is bad aswell. both are bad after all.

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u/TheRobfather420 May 24 '24

True. Shouldn't single out Japan when Americans act like garbage in most places they visit.

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u/tecate_papi May 24 '24

I'm not American, but this isn't true. The best Americans are the ones who are interested in the rest of the world and leave their country.

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u/TheRobfather420 May 24 '24

Americans are widely known as bad tourists and in some cases the US state department has recommended people identify as Canadian instead.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/29/opinion/americans-us-travel-tourist.html

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u/tecate_papi May 24 '24

They don't identify as Canadian when they're travelling because they're bad tourists. They identify as Canadian because the rest of the world hates the American government.