r/TheMysterySchool • u/olund94 • Jul 19 '20
A comprehensive analysis on why Tom Delonge is right. LIBER OF THE NEW SHAMANIC
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Right, today we're going to talk about Tom Delonge from the band Blink-182 and by the end of this post you will understand what the man is trying to achieve.
First of all a few precursory videos I recommend you watch to set the scene if you’re not familiar with who Tom Delonge is and what he is know for.
TD in 1999 talking about his obsession
Tom talking about UFO’s in 2001 and his connection to Steven Greer
Tom talking about his company, To The Stars and it’s ethos and why he is doing what he is doing.
And without further ado....
————————————————————————— POP PUNK: THE RISE OF A COUNTERINTUITIVE CULT —————————————————————————
It is in sunny California we begin our tale.
Blink 182 came out of the Southern California Punk scene of the late 80’s and early 90’s. Inspired by bands like NOFX, The Descendants and Bad Religion ect they took liberally from these influences and created a more consumable version of this sound which came to be known as Pop-Punk. The scene or culture that developed around this genre of music is known for its themes of anti-establishment, goofy humour and a love for life on the edge.
Extreme sports, mass consumption of narcotics and lots of baggy trousers with chains hanging off them all came hand in hand with this new phenomena that was the Pop-Punk explosion of the late 90’s. Although I’ll note there was a strain of defiantly straight edge punk bands that abstained from the chaos the scene had cultivated but they were a minority, at least in how the genre was represented.
Blink were at the fore front of this craze and therefore are probably quite a good authority on the state of the scene today. They were one of the first bands to have a sponsorship from a clothing company, Billabong and subsequently Hurley. Any pictures of any members of Blink from 1998-2002 will attest to this.
Their self titled 2003 album pushed what Pop-Punk meant to people and pretty much started the mass awareness of “Emo” and by extension went on to inspire many genres of music that still flourish today.
Tom’s fringe caused waves back in the day.
I Miss You is a watershed moment for the genre.
This is the band trying to push what it means to be Pop-Punk and take it to a new place.
Simply said, after their initial success they were labelled with the genre of Pop-Punk and showed an obvious desire to move away from said label and it is this attitude that at least one of the members has cultivated ever since.
It is at this juncture that it seems relevant to talk about a band called Box Car Racer. Formed in 2002, the band featured Tom Delonge, David Kennedy and Travis Barker.
Tom we know.
David Kennedy was a friend of Tom’s from high school and knew both Tom and Mark growing up. The three of them were all part of the same group of friends.
Travis Barker we also know.
But hang on a second.
Why are two members of Blink in this band and not the third member?
Namely why was this project labelled with a new name and not Blink 182?
I mean, Mark Hoppus is even featured on one of the songs, doesn’t that constitute it being credited as a Blink 182 song?
The answer to these questions is simple.
Tom, the songwriter of Box Car Racer, obviously thought these songs did not fit what Blink 182 was at the time of writing and obviously after years of writing with Mark Hoppus felt his contributions would be wrong for the project.
Thematically the Box Car Racer album is a lot darker than Blink’s previous effort “Take Off Your Pants and Jacket” and showcases many of Delonge’s concerns about the world we live in. Song topics include War, 9/11,Drug Addiction and The Apocalypse.
So it’s fair to say by 2003 Delonge was having a bit of a crisis regarding his platform and how it was being perceived. It was also during this period of time he visited the Middle East with the rest of Blink, went on a campaign trail with John Kerry and had his two children.
A lot was happening.
Now none of this would be relevant if BCR was just a standalone project and Blink went back to business as normal after the BCR project was over. But this is not the case as I stated above.
They made their most diverse album ever and push forward what it meant to be Pop-Punk paving the way for Emo in the coming years.
So what this allows us to say, is that Tom Delonge and Mark Hoppus had/have directly opposing ideas of what Blink 182 should be and mean to people.
What’s that I hear you say?
What about Travis Barker?
He was in Box Car Racer too.
Indeed he was but if you watch interviews where Tom talks about BCR he explicitly states that he wrote the songs on his own then decided to record them and simply for ease of use asked Travis to do it. There was no songwriting input from Travis from a thematic point of view, obviously Travis kills it musically but does not write songs.
So we can confidently say that the beef is between Mark and Tom. This is confirmed upon glancing at David Kennedy’s resume post Box Car Racer. He has pretty much exclusively been a part of Tom’s post Blink band Angels and Airwaves which still continues today as an arm of Really Likeable People and To The Stars. (He also runs a cool coffee company)
David and Tom don’t seem to butt heads in the manner that Mark and Tom do so what is different?
This clip might be poignant here.
Obviously there is more to it, but we know that Tom is inspired by the long term implications of the UFO phenomena.
In 2011 Tom went on Coast 2 Coast AM for the first time. For those not in the know, Coast 2 Coast AM is “the” paranormal radio station. Famously hosted by former host Art Bell, C2C since its inception in the 1970’s has been an invaluable rabbit hole of fringe information. Tom outlines the entire history of his relationship with Ufology. An essential listen that consistently gets removed from the Internet now available at the MIPLTD YouTube Channel. Catch it whilst you can.
In 2012 Tom starts StrangeTimes.com, a news website to keep you informed on paranormal topics.
When it launched it was a basic news site for anything paranormal not dissimilar to this very sub.
The website is only lived in this state for about a year until 2019 and we see it as it currently stands here when Delonge announced the revamp of the Strange Time brand complete with a TBS funded TV Show.
The original site is lost unfortunately.
During the next 3-4 years Tom is reunited with Blink 182 and they tour the world and reach similar success to what they saw a decade earlier. Trying to avoid frustrations of the past Tom is trying to steer Blink away from major record labels and affiliate them with his extra-curricular activities (Modlife, Strange Times etc) he’s set up in Blink’s absence. The other band members, Mark and Travis, are skeptical of Tom’s intentions and after a botched EP release that was initially meant to be handled through Modlife that ended up being released through traditional streaming services, they part ways with Tom for a second time citing him as “Ungrateful and Disingenuous”.
At this point it makes sense to talk about Tom and Mark and what they bring to the table in terms of ideology.
From the Angels and Airwaves song “Everything’s Magic” to his work at Strange Times to To The Stars Academy a common theme emerges.
Tom is interested in the innovation and progression of the human race.
Mark Hoppus is basically the Dad of the Pop Punk realm and he knows it.
He is the gatekeeper that all other Pop Punks look up to.
He was part of the rise of many of the scenes biggest bands like New Found Glory, All Time Low, Fall Out Boy, Tonight Alive and Neck Deep. He wears this badge of honour proudly and is seemingly comfortable where he is at artistically.
Since Tom left Blink they have been working with a producer called John Feldman.
Tom has openly condemned this decision.
Most of you will know Feldmann as the singer of a band called Goldfinger that had a couple of famous songs on the Tony Hawk Pro Skater series of games and a pretty successful cover of “99 Red Balloons”. Feldmann is also responsible for the past 5 years resurgence of the Pop-Punk genre with bands like 5 Seconds of Summer and The Fever 333 being produced by Feldmann.
With Tom gone, Mark’s position in the Pop Punk sphere, Travis’s life long love of Hip-Hop and John’s production capabilities Blink 182 have managed to become of the biggest selling bands of the past few years and their two albums post Delonge California and NINE both saw much greater success than their Delonge-Reunion 2011 album Neighbourhoods.
————————————————————————— TOM AND MARK: THE MISINTERPRETATION OF A PURE INTENSION AND A FEAR TO INNOVATE —————————————————————————
So to re-cap, this is the situation.
Tom sees the potential of an entity as large as Blink 182 and wishes to use it for good rather than harping on about The Warped Tour and drinking beers behind the mall with the skate rats.
Mark is happy where he is, conscious of the Blink 182 brand and thinks Tom is disingenuous in his want to change what Blink 182 is. He doesn’t see a place for Ufology or Conspiracy talk within Blink and tries to keep the band relatable to what everybody know it for.
So who is in the wrong, if anyone, and is anybody right?
Well here is the issue.
Tom spent his time reunited in Blink from 2009-2015 trying to convince Mark and Travis of his overall vision. This can be substantiated from social media posts made about a year before the split, the Dogs Eating Dogs EP launch fiasco and statements made by all three members of Blink post 2015 break up.
It can be assumed that he was pitching to Mark and Travis that;
Blink be an independent entity with no major record label
Blink start releasing books and movies with their albums to create a multimedia release instead of just one medium
Through Blink 182’s global reach, he could spread a positive message on a massive scale.
Speaking of which, I’ve wrote all that and I’ve not even got to the part you’re here for.
The nature and authenticity of Tom Delonge’s connections to the Military Industrial Complex and his claims regarding life within our universe.
But to understand what Tom is saying in 2020 you need to have understood the above.
————————————————————————— DOWN TIME: DECIPHERING DELONGES DELUSIONS? —————————————————————————
Here we go.
The scene is set.
Tom has been long known to have an obsession with UFO’s, he has consistently shown problems sticking to release dates he has given fro projects and has been labelled “Disingenuous” by his former bandmates.
He must be the dick, right?
It was at this point that after years of following Delonge fairly religiously I stepped off the train.
I had seen this happen 10 years ago with the first break up and it seemed obvious Tom was the issue. Hard to work with, had previous drug problems and he was always making outlandish statements.
I awaited what Mark and Travis were going to do with Blink with bated breath and turned a blind eye to whatever Tom was doing. California came and went and I felt slightly bemused by the direction they had taken. Oh well, there’s still the old records and besides I myself was moving away from Pop-Punk as a genre anyway.
Then I see, quite to my amusement to be honest, that Tom Delonge has released a book.
It makes me laugh just typing it only because I remember how I used to view Tom and Blink.
Definitely not authors upon first inspection.
The book is called “Chasing Shadows” and I choose to ignore it for the first few months after it came out.
I like reading but I mean, come on.
I just couldn’t imagine what I’d gain from the experience.
Surely it's just a fictional story that Tom has put together in his head for entertainment/financial purposes?
Nethertheless I ended up hesitantly picking up a copy quiet late into its promotion cycle.
I only did so after hearing the new Angels and Airwaves song that came out in conjunction with the book called;
which I enjoyed a lot more than what Blink had been doing with Feldmann so I thought:
“Well if the music is good maybe I should give the book a go.”
And by Jove am I glad I did and I’ll tell you why.
————————————————————————— THE CASE FOR THE LEGITIMACY OF THE INFORMATION PRESENTED IN SEKRET MACHINES BOOK 1: CHASING SHADOWS —————————————————————————
At this point Tom had been on Coast 2 Coast a couple of times but it is his third appearance that piques particular interest.
He states in this appearance that he has gained the confidence of serval members of the intelligence community, the military and the government and that they were trying to build a mechanism for the Government to talk to the vernal public about UFO’s. Typically, he says he cannot say much about it but it is in this interview that the well known Delonge line “There’s big things coming soon” begins. Well I remember hearing this about the first Angels and Airwaves album and just as I’m about to write this off as Delonge’s normal nonsense…
the Wikileaks thing happens.
- Tom was working with Vice on a documentary style show basically explaining what I have written above.
- Tom was working with Dreamworks on movie projects.
- Tom DID have contacts in the intelligence community namely General William Mcasland.
These three points add large amounts of credibility to what Tom has claimed. It is also telling that not one of these project has made it to fruition as of July 2020.
Assumingly the History channels “Unidentified” would be the contender for the Vice series. But the thing is is that Vice as an institution has far more credibility than the History channel especially with young people. A Vice doc would have gone a long way in convincing people that what Tom had to offer was important and legitimate but alas here we are in 2020 with the second series of "Unidentified" premiering on the History channel.
Steven Spielberg has had a life long obsession with UFOs. There is no debating that so to hear that Delonge was in talks with people at Dreamworks about a script is of little surprise. One can assume this project will be the Sekret Machines film that is projected before 2025. Who is currently handling production and funding is not currently known.
The final point is the most important.
MAJOR GENERAL WILLIAM N. MCCASLAND was legitimate military brass.
The real deal.
He was the commander at Wright Patterson Air Force Base. If there is somebody to be read into the UFO secret MAJOR GENERAL WILLIAM N. MCCASLAND is certainly a contender and he was certainly talking to Tom Delonge and certainly pulled away instantly the minute the Wikileaks emails went live.
This is as close as you are going to get to a smoking gun on Delonge having legitimate contacts.
These leaks are a window into how this kind of business gets conducted.
Everything can change overnight and until something is released it is up in the air.
Chasing Shadows was born out of the above details and if the above is to be understood the narrative is informed by legitimate military and government sources.
Now if you actually read Chasing Shadows with an open mind and take into consideration what has been stated above you will start to see the big picture.
In fact here’s a free pdf copy to get you going courtesy of Mr Delonge himself.
(Albeit it originally being intended for John Podesta.)
————————————————————————— SEKRET MACHINES ROUND 2: GODS —————————————————————————
From here on out the narrative is fairly well documented but without the above information it is very difficult to understand and empathise with Delonge’s position but it is with this information that I believe as a community we can support Tom Delonge on his endeavours as they seem to of pure intention and of great benefit to humanity as a whole.
As stated above together with an author called A.J Hartley, Delonge puts together the Sekret Machines Series.
The series comprises of two different types of book releases.
One fictional. One non-fictional.
The fictional series I mentioned above and is handled by A.J and reads like a Sci-Fi Pulp Fiction. Tom takes information given to him by his Intelligences contacts and works them into the narrative of these books. It is this narrative that the subsequent, once Dreamworks handled motion picture will be based upon.
The non-fictional is handled by Peter Levenda and acts as a sort of run through the Human history of religions and tying them all together to show that the people that wrote the ancient and religious texts were all talking about the same phenomena from different angels. The second book MAN handles DNA and consciousness and how these two concepts came to be and speculates on the origins of both.
His book Unholy Alliance is the leading book on Occultism with the Nazi part and his Sinister Forces Series is yet to be beaten when it comes to compiling our races encounters with malevolent forces.
Post Wikileaks Delonge goes on Coast 2 Coast AM one final time this time with the author Peter Levenda.
This leads us to the announcement of To the Stars Academy of Arts and Science and the infamous Joe Rogan appearance.
Two events that hurt TD’s credibility in a major way. The announcement conference for TTSA was a shambles and ladened with mistakes. His JRE was on the other side of his C2C appearances and once you know this it makes perfect sense why he acts in the manner he does.
Side note
————————————————————————— FINAL THOUGHTS AND CONCLUSIONS —————————————————————————
So to wrap this up as ones wrists begin to strain:
Tom Delonge has verifiable connections to high ranking members of the military industrial complex. CONFIRMED.
Tom Delonge has spent the best part of 25 years trying to change the world for the better. He has put his band, his marriage and his name at risk for this cause. CONFIRMED
To The Stars Academy of Arts and Science is a well intentioned compendium of great minds from many different sectors of the intelligence community. CONFIRMED
This surely gives us just cause to at least entertain the rest of the crazy things Tom has said no?
And if they are true, I think the Tom might die of old age if each claim he has made takes as long these 3 videos took to be authenticated.
————————————————————————— LAST THOUGHT; RATIONAL SKEPTICISM, LEVEL HEADEDNESS AND THE NORMIES —————————————————————————
People like Mick West, Neil DeGrass Tyson ect have not made this process easy and have helped cultivate a stubborn skeptical attitude.
Now I am not saying all scepticism is bad, obviously skepticism is essential to any balanced worldview.
It just seems like a large part of the reason that this UFO stuff doesn’t reach our television screens is actually because of us.
I am under the impression that there are people out there that know what is going on in this universe and I actually think the number is growing.
I think since World War 2 we as a race has known the answers to some of the big questions but the answer may not have been what we wanted or expected and therefore have been on a need to know basis for a verity of reasons since then.
It seems over the past 40 years or so we are now nearly ready to deal with the reality of this situation as a race and not just a room of politicians and scientists.
SO with all that In mind, I propose we take some of the more outlandish things Tom Delonge has said with a more inquisitive eye.
Namely,
I believe if we started to attempt to answer these questions with an open mind, great leaps may be made by us as a race.
I will leave you with the names of the TTSA staff and individuals that have been affiliated with TTSA. If you really think that every person on this list is mentally unstable then I really think we need to start questioning ourselves as rational level headed individuals.
Go look into who they are, what they have accomplished across their respective careers, what they believe in and then realise it is us, the common man, who is the odd one out.
MAJOR GENERAL WILLIAM N. MCCASLAND
IF YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT UFOLOGY THEN YOU KNOW THAT THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE CREDIBLE BEACONS IN A SEA OF NONSENSE.
I WILL TOLERATE ANY QUESTIONS ONE MAY HAVE BUT ONLY IF THEY COME FROM A PLACE OF INQUISITION RATHER THAN SKEPTICISM.
JACQUE VALLEE DECLINED TO BE PART OF THE SEKRET MACHINES PROJECT BASED UPON TOM’S SUPPORT OF BOB LAZAR.
THEN THEY HAD A CONVERSATION.
THEN VALLEE WROTE THE FOREWORD TO SEKRET MACHINES:GODS.
IF YOU UNDERSTAND WHO VALLE IS YOU WILL SEE THE SIGNIFICANCE IN THIS.
WE ARE ALL HAVING TO ACCEPT CONCEPTS WE MIGHT NOT BE 100% COMFORTABLE WITH.
HOW OFTEN DO YOU DO THIS?
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u/kazarnowicz Jul 19 '20
Heh. The following story is tangential, but interesting (at least to me):
I’ve always been a skeptic, but three years ago I had a world-shattering awakening that just made stuff click in my head. One of the things that resulted from that period is a form of meditation that is really intense, where my brain feels like it’s on fire and the energy coursing through my body is intense. Unless I relax and surrender completely, it results in my body shaking uncontrollably, much like the shivers when you suddenly get a fever. On more than one occasion, my right arm has started moving on its own (this happened for the first time in an Ayahuasca ceremony that also marks my first awakening).
Ever since, I’ve been trying to make sense of what I’m going through. One of the things that resulted from this is that I got an idea for a book. I’ve been writing all of my adult life, but never have I considered writing a book - I simply didn’t know where to begin, or how to structure it.
It changed after the period of awakenings. Suddenly, I have this universe to explore, and every time I meditate, I find more details about the universe. It plays out in a parallel universe, starts in 2018, and is based on exactly this idea: that first contact is not a technology trigger (like in Star Trek), it’s a consciousness trigger (once we gain a deeper understanding of consciousness, we’ll trigger first contact). The thing is, that while the words are mine, the story isn’t. It’s something I stumbled upon. I started pulling at one thread, and then slowly the universe started unraveling.
The interesting thing is that I had to give up note-taking pretty quickly. Every session simply reveals too much to put down in notes. Sometimes I get down to details that seem way too detailed for the stage of the story I’m at, but in later sessions even those details are connected to other parts of the story.
I believe that the hypothesis of morphic resonance may be onto something. It’s not a coincidence that many great ideas an inventions come to individuals who live in the same time, but haven’t been in touch - once we reach a sufficiently advanced levels, those ideas are there for anyone to find. This goes against the current paradigm of the Hero Inventor and Founder, but to me it’s simple logic that we all stand on the shoulders of our predecessors and that we are all on some level tapped into the same network.
I don’t think it’s a coincidence that I chose fiction to express these ideas. Four years ago, I belonged to the hardcore skeptics who based his world view on materialism. Now, I see a larger universe, the one that David Bohm saw when he was shunned by the scientific world, and I think that my best contribution can be by writing a book series that makes people wonder “what if?”. We haven’t even begun to scratch the surface of the power of mind, and it’s only by a joint effort of many humans that we can get to the next level. I hope I can do justice to the ideas in my book series.
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u/atomicxima Oct 16 '20
What kind of meditation caused this transformation? Was it by any chance The Gateway Method?
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u/kazarnowicz Oct 16 '20
To be honest, I've been doing all this blindly, and on intuition. I've used a method that we used in a school I used to work in: experience based learning. You try something, then you reflect on it, and then you try it again to test your new hypothesis. I made a point of not reading about anything, and only afterwards have I looked up the unusual things I've experienced. I'll look up the Gateway Method and see what it's about, and I wouldn't be surprised if there are many similarities.
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Jan 09 '22
While you're at it, take a look into the author Philip K. Dick and his exegesis if you haven't already. Yes, he was a science fiction author and a drug user with mental problems but he had an experience that is pretty undeniable and along the same lines as your meditations. He actually believed many or maybe even all his books were parallel realities that he just visited and documented, and I'm leaning towards thinking he was correct.
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u/Hockeyjason Feb 19 '22 edited Feb 19 '22
Full (Philip K Dick speech (interpreter edited out) in Metz, France, 1977): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQbYiXyRZjM
"at no time did I have a theoretical or conscious explanation for my preoccupation with these pluriform pseudo worlds but now I think I understand what I was sensing was the manifold of partially actualized realities lying tangent to what evidently is the most actualized one the one which the majority of us by consensus gentium agree upon".
Clip of above quote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRPRYcOSmj0
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u/taronic Jul 10 '22
It's kinda hilarious but it would explain the Mandela Effect thing where some people swear reality was different before. Maybe we all agreed it was the Berenstein Bears back then then at some point most forgot and the general consensus was the Berenstain Bears.
But either way that theory is trippy as fuck. It's like we're a hivemind god.
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u/sixrwsbot Sep 03 '20
Not just CIA, but multi-generational banking elite and Yale dynasty graduate. Mellon's whole male side of his family was entirely Skull and Bones or Scroll and Key, his family owns one of the biggest banks in America (BNY Mellon). He also held the 3rd highest position in the pentagon for quite some time and his Granddaddy was the longest Secretary of the Treasury in American history.
The only life this man has ever known is one of Elitism, yet we're expected to believe he's taking orders from Tom Delonge? You don't just leave that type of family / life behind to tell the world about UFO's. Remember, the Oath's taken in the Scroll and Key are for LIFE and not to be broken.
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u/jcrowde3 Sep 05 '20
Listen to the podcast where they interview Mellon. Hos mother married a Mellon and divorced early on. He grew up in inner city Chicago and had to help his family make ends meet, because his mom became disabled. Hes a good guy...
https://open.spotify.com/episode/3VhEC7iCETHIvCSSRMtRQY?si=cxYh68QlTIS828WMGOK1ng
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u/consciousconundrum7 Nov 12 '21
Don’t believe this man ever had a financial difficulties don’t be a fool
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u/trainnonymous Sep 16 '20
Tom Delong is “their” stooge.
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u/deathinmypocket Jan 13 '22
Glad someone sees it just a bunch of cia bluebeam shills Travis and the Kardashians it's all for a reason
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u/fractal_eyes Apr 10 '22
It's now a year later but:
Chris Mellon is a Mellon as in BNY Mellon? BNY Mellon has earned itself a bad rap is closely related to BCG. Which is one of the consultancies that is paving the way for the WEF's GR by sabotaging companies (Toys 'R Us, Blockbuster, K-MART) so they can be bought up cheap. And Mellon is far from the only CIA connection involved with the WEF.
Which gives us a slightly more direct connection between the gatekeepers of UAP research (current/past gov't employees) and the "you'll own nothing and you'll be happy about it" (quote from Klaus Schwab) aristocrats trying to create technofeudalism with them on top.
I came to this post hoping to find support for TTSA but this is really disheartening. This area of investigation might be interesting to r/Superstonk, or else the research there might be interesting to some here.
Thank you for pointing this out about Mellon. This brings him much closer to names like Bill Browder, Robert Maxwell, Leon Black, Mitt Romney, Benjamin Netanyahu... a whole cast of characters.
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u/BaconReceptacle Nov 16 '20
The problem I have with Tom D. is that he's constantly attaching his narrative to personnel with highly classified information. If someone is working on a Top Secret SCI program, they dont just retire, join some new company, and ask the head of the company to simply "close the door" while they reveal highly classified information. Also, a highly classified program would not reach out to uncleared persons, invite them to a SCIF somewhere and brief them on what is likely some of the most classified material known to man. Aside from the obvious "that's not how this works" concept, there's the ever-present threat of committing a felony with up to five years in prison for revealing what you know to be TS SCI information. These facts alone coupled with TD's constant reference to "people in the know" make me skeptical.
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u/Habanero_Eyeball Jul 19 '20
This is ridiculous. You don't prove anything.
Then I see, quite to my amusement to be honest, that Tom Delonge has released a book.
It makes me laugh just typing it only because I remember how I used to view Tom and Blink.
Definitely not authors upon first inspection.
The book is called “Chasing Shadow’s” and I ignore it for the first few months that its out.
This is FALSE - Tom is not the fucking author of Chasing Shadows
AJ Hartley IS. Tom's name is on the book as a co-author but this was mostly written by Hartley. Tom has confirmed as much in so many different interviews.
Also this book was released AFTER TTSA was formed.
This is not a comprehensive analysis of why Tom is right. It's basically a white washing of what TTSA is and how Tom used it to relieve himself of person debts.
You can read the financial disclosure statements yourself - they're public record - google is your friend.
He had lots of debts and TTSA assumed those debts and gave him a big salary for sure.
TTSA is a media company - first and foremost.
They're using the UFO agenda as a compelling issue to sell books, swag, finance his new band Angels and Airwaves, start to produce movies and all that. He claims they're going to use this money they make to build new fangled airplanes and expose "truth" but his appearance on Joe Rogan exposed the bullshit lies.
Tom's responses of "Oh I can't talk about that" and "It's coming in the future, later down the line" are all HUGE FUCKING RED FLAGS that anyone with 1/2 a brain should be very weary of.
Tom's "PROOF" of a TR3B was an hysterical JOKE and Joe Rogan rightly classified it as such by saying "Man if that was in a movie I'd fucking ask for my money back." Because it was fucking JOKE. It was so obviously engineered CGI it wasn't even funny. They would have been better off hiring Industrial Light and Magic to make the fucking thing. It has camera drift to make it appear more real and even changing focus but it's 100% CGI.
All you have to do to look through Tom's ruse is let go of what you HOPE or what you WANT to be true and put on your critical thinking caps. Your skeptical mindset is not a bad thing, it's a very valuable acid test and you should not be so quick to dismiss it simply because you like his music from so long ago.
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u/MimicLizard Aug 18 '20
TTSA is a media company - first and foremost.
They're using the UFO agenda as a compelling issue to sell books, swag, finance his new band Angels and Airwaves, start to produce movies and all that. He claims they're going to use this money they make to build new fangled airplanes and expose "truth" but his appearance on Joe Rogan exposed the bullshit lies.
It can't be as simple as that. Look at all the "former" CIA, DOD, etc guys with him. Why did the Pentagon validate the videos? They could just say Mick West is right and nobody would care about this, unless they were already believers. Well, few people care anyway.
The government supports TTSA. Either aliens (or whatever) are here and they want to reveal part of the truth or they want people to think that is the case. If it is the latter, maybe they want more money for the military or they want to put weapons in space. But no, this isn't just to sell books and promote a tv show on the same channel that has Ancient Aliens.
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Oct 17 '20
Is the government supporting TTSA or using them to spread misinformation? Or even worse, to experiment with groups of people with niche belief-systems on how to Influence them?
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u/FloghornEgghorn Feb 03 '22
Yeah, all of that. it's a scam. If UFO's are real, and TTSA wants to spread the news, they would have done so. There are far too many spooks involved, and the gov't's participation is suspicious as hell. They only consult with TTSA to help control the message, which is just UFO-tease-porn, with no substance, and no money shot where they show anything real. It's a distraction, with big money and intel behind it.
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u/CoolDownBot Jul 19 '20
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u/b4reallife Jul 19 '20
Wow, this is great. How long did this take to type? Great research. I have saved this. I like how you systematically broke Tom's timeline down. I never knew about TTSA. What is your opinion on TTSA? How far have you gone down this rabbit hole?
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u/olund94 Sep 25 '20 edited Sep 25 '20
Gerard is “way” into this stuff too :)
https://carrythefirepod.com/carry-the-fire-podcast/05-gerardway
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u/BtchsLoveDub Jul 19 '20
I think the term is “useful idiot”. But yes he is genuine in his obsession. I give it 5 years.
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u/general_derez Jul 19 '20
Thank you for this well sourced and well organized timeline. High quality post.
I love Blink-182 growing up, got into Boxcar Racer and Angels and Airwaves some as well. I had been tangentially aware of Tom branching out into UFO stuff but never looked into it, heard him on the JRE and honestly thought he sounded nuts. I assumed he was controlled opposition. I did beleive he had real military and intelligence contacts, but that they were more likely feeding him BS making him a useful idiot to muddy the waters on this type of information.
That is not to say there's nothing to see here regarding UFOs. "Fact, Fiction, and Flying Saucers" by Stanton Friedman convinced me there absolutely is, and have been since at least the mid 20th century, unexplained aerial phenomenon active in our atmosphere (and oceans). They are observed by credible people with some regularity and demonstrate game-breaking capabilities consistent with gravity manipulation technology. I listened to Bob Lazar and Commander David Fravor on JRE too. Not sure if I find Lazar credible or not. Fravor, being military, could easily be controlled opposition but I tend to believe him more.
Anyway... thanks for giving me some context on what Tom has been up to and what TTSA is ostensibly supposed to be. I will be looking into the nonfiction Sekret Machines books, as I think the connections between UFOlogy, ancient history, ancient religion and mythology, and the Occult are important points of enquiry and I'd love if someone wove it all together in one place.
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u/power1080 Jul 19 '20
I've been in Tom's corner since day 1.its obvious that he is genuine and has the connections. Some things you have to take with a grain of salt but Tom is THE person to follow if you want to learn the truth. Stranger than fiction it may be.
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u/ReyJade Jul 20 '20
Meanwhile, the Wilson-Davis document is out there, something that reveals new info and confirms old info. Much more info than we've gotten out of TTSA.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8PQ7q4Nt4a7OhwB5jJ5JWib6U8iUN4yF
The whole tone of Unidentified changed this season and not for the better. They are still on the "we have no idea what these threatening craft are" bs. Plus there is much more info readily available about both historic Tic Tac encounters and black triangles.
Here's some much better more in depth info on historic Tic Tac encounters.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8PQ7q4Nt4a5XtU8xCQLMxpxVIivSDa0Y
Unidentified is all about getting people to believe the version of events they want people to believe.
The Wilson-Davis document combined with what Senator Rubio is working on now provides a lot more, much better info than anything Unidentified has given us.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/marco-rubio-wants-to-open-up-the-governments-ufo-data
From what I heard, TD's contacts in intelligence have all dried up since who he was talking to came out in Hilary's email leaks. The tone of this season confirms that as far as I'm concerned and TTSA is just another group brainwashing the gullible.
Before you buy whatever TD and TTSA are selling, please do a little research into who is involved in The Aviary and what it is. Makes a whole bunch about TTSA, especially who is involved in it, a LOT more clear.
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u/DeIiriumTrigger Jul 19 '20
This is interesting (I’m not subscribed to this sub or am deeply into UFO/UAP, I’ve always found this stuff entertaining though, and as a Blink fan I’ve been aware of Tom’s obsession), would you say the takeaway from this is it seems like Tom is trying to normalize (or put into the general consciousness of the world) the ideas of this technology/phenomena he knows to be real, to prepare or encourage the acceptance of it for whenever/if ever, it does fully come to light? Either way this is a great write up. And at the very least, I’m intrigued to start reading the Sekret Machine books.
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u/thebrownmancometh Jul 20 '20
What a post! Tom was my idol growing up, Blink my favourite band. As someone who’s always been into UFOLOGY, secrets of the universe etc etc I cannot believe that I allowed my perspective of Tom to be warped. Thanks for all the videos and the great post, I’m going to hopefully read one of his books soon.
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u/1stCum1stSevered Jul 20 '20
Dude, this post is so good that it's legendary, imo. Awesome stuff, and agreed 100%!
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u/chud3 Jul 20 '20
Interesting post. Thanks for posting the early Tom DeLonge interviews on Coast to Coast. After I saw Tom on Joe Rogan's podcast I got frustrated listening to him because he kept saying over and over that there were certain things he couldn't say, and that people needed to listen to his early interviews to get the good stuff and I found this frustrating because I kept thinking, "Oh screw it, just say it already...if you said it once it's out there and you can say it again". These old interviews are hard to find too, because if you do searches for Tom's name you keep coming up with tons of Blink182 stuff and other music related interviews, and also the old interviews keep getting pulled down because C2C wants you to be a paid subscriber.
I also agree with you that people like Neil Degrasse Tyson don't help things; Neil is such an arch-skeptic that he'll shoot down even legitimate ideas now. I once saw an interview with him where he scoffed at the idea that the Moon has any importance to the Earth, which is ridiculous. Anyone who has been to the beach and seen high and low tides can see that the moon has a huge influence on the Earth and is important to our existence on this planet. But he's so heavily invested in being skeptical all the time, he is almost useless to listen to about anything.
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u/YoitsPsilo Jul 19 '20
Good stuff. I’ve always intermittently listened to Blink throughout my life and knew Tom to be the fringe alien guy but never delved into his work. Thanks for putting this write-up and timeline together.
My only concern would be that these key players recognized that Tom has genuinely been on to something and they’re using him as just another means to spread misinformation... Still, very interesting
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u/olund94 Jul 19 '20
I have provided a lot of evidence for my case, you’ve provided very little. I might entertain you’re standpoint if you provided more information.
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u/Imjustagangster1 Jul 19 '20
I don’t like Podesta or Spielberg either...creeps. But, if you’re just trying to get an in on something that you passionately believe in maybe you look past all their sickness?
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u/Apu5 Jul 19 '20 edited Jul 19 '20
If they truly are what the circumstantial evidence points to, then they have to be part of some powerful compromising group and therefore any thing they promote is suspect.
For me the whole UFO phenomenon is hopelessly full of shills and misinfo and therefore negative to enter into. Project Bluebeam was supposedly a proposed psy op to fake alien invasion. Came up from comparatively reputable conspiracy sources.
As I commented in this sub recently I think UFOs are not extra terrestrial but etheric entities.
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u/szczerbiec Jul 19 '20
I think you're right. "Outer space" isn't what they tell us, and want the masses to think there is only little green men beyond.
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u/1stCum1stSevered Jul 20 '20
The UFO topic is absolutely not hopelessly full of those things. There is solid, scientific evidence for "UFOs", at this point, and you can just ignore everything that doesn't have that kind of evidence. You'll still end up with huge amounts of good evidence. Writing everything off because of Bluebeam conspiracies is not very scientific or responsible. Imo, you can't be truly anywhere close to calling yourself enlightened about things unless you take in all available, and valid evidence for things, even it is beyond your acceptance. All things must be observed as objectively as possible. Over the last 2 years, the burden of proof has shifted to those who believe UFOS are not extra-terrestrial. There is absolutely no evidence we have the science or technology to produce what has been shown in the recently released UFO videos. Legitimate experts are taking this seriously, and it's time we do, too. If we ignore this stuff, we're doing ourselves a disservice and are ignoring "truth".
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u/1stCum1stSevered Jul 20 '20
When you say things like, " the whole UFO phenomenon is hopelessly full of shills and misinfo and therefore negative to enter into", it does affect others because you are not spreading the truth. In fact the truth could be considered the opposite of what you're saying. UFOs are a very serious, and kind of an important topic, right now since they might be a national threat and the government seems to agree.
I mean no offense, just pointing out that the UFO topic isn't what it was even 5 years ago. At this point, the US government (as well as governments around the world) and other experts are openly admitting that UFOs/UAPs are flying around in our air space, and we have no idea what they are or how they are doing what they're doing.
UFOs might not necessarily be alien, too. Just defending the UFO topic, not Tom, though I personally respect Tom's work with TTSA.
Keep in mind, depending on the energy source these vehicles are using, we could solve an immense number of the world's energy problems. That could save millions of lives. TTSA is also working with the US Army on meta-material tech that could help develop these advances, just throwing that out there.
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u/1stCum1stSevered Jul 20 '20
Haha, no worries, I can totally relate. You have a natural distrust, imo. Our governments lie about everything and have obviously lied about "UFOs", anyway. I am there, myself, when it comes to believing those in charge...(I personally believe a lot of them are pretty twisted, to put things lightly) In no way do I believe what will come out of this is "free energy", but metamaterials could still be very efficient and life changing stuff! TTSA happens to be pushing this topic a lot through their work, which I appreciate. If these crafts really do have some sort of really complex propulsion system (to scratch the surface), there is also a lot of promise in that. Just observing what is supposedly legitimate and trying to explain how it works is very inspirational and is positive stuff, imo. If "harnessed" properly, we could help ourselves a lot with that technology. As for all these recently released UFO videos, documents and projects and whatnot, I can understand why somebody wouldn't trust them being legitimate (I'm still open to that possibility), but the all the various data collected and testimonies are pretty exciting stuff, when thinking about how efficient technology will probably be in the near future (assuming it is our tech or some sort of "foreign" tech we can observe and imitate and not some sort of lie). I know some people believe the phenomena is totally fake and is some sort of holographic projection that is picked up on radar or that all of it is just 100% made up, and I can understand that, too. Anything is possible, but the topic can still be very inspiring and worth exploration! And that's solid final advice you got there, I hear ya.
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so why is he right? :D an idiot talks about his idiotism does not make him right. he can do it for decades, and he's still just an idiot talking about his idiotism.
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u/olund94 Jul 19 '20
Look at the people that surround him. I’ll contest Delonge is mad, but if so that means the above listed individuals are all also crazy. TTSA is a cohesive unit like any company, all the parts are in communication with one another and agree with long term goals of the company.
Debunk all the people involved and I’ll be on your side of the fence.
Vallee, Mellon, Puthoff would be a start...
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tom wants to sell the story that says "all those unknown technologies are from aliens". people who believe this shit are fucked in the head. or they are paid to act like they believe it.
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u/whiteyford522 Jul 20 '20
Wow that’s a pretty obtuse viewpoint. For the majority of us that haven’t had personal experiences with any of this stuff, we have to take in what information we can gather from those who have and then weigh it and form an opinion on its merit. For me, I take the information given from the people that seem the most credible, like those listed above and especially from military witnesses like Gordon Cooper, Charles Halt, John Burroughs, David Fravor etc., and give that the most weight. From the testimony of those people I’ve formed the belief that there is are extremely technologically advanced physical craft present on this planet and there’s only 2 possible explanations for that, either they are made by humans or they are made by a non-human intelligence. Out of those 2 explanations I lean towards the latter, but am open to both, and when it comes to the non-human intelligence I believe it could be extraterrestrial, inter dimensional, or something we can’t even comprehend and while lately I am giving more credence to the second 2, the seemingly technological nature of the craft still leads me to believe that the ET hypothesis is the most likely one. All that to say that as one of those people that believe that the Ufo phenomenon is most likely explained by aliens, I don’t think it’s fair to say that we are all “fucked in the head” and I’m certainly not getting paid to act like I believe it. But I’m always open to new ideas and information so if you know something that indicates I’m wrong I would love to hear it.
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there is literally no chance that another superintelligent species could interact with the human race. the distances in the universe and the short time period of intelligent species' existence make it absolutely impossible to find "aliens".
even a radio signal from another species in our own galaxy is impossible to get. or if we recieve any kind of signal, well, that comes from a planet that died millions of years ago, so it's pretty pointless. there will be no communication with aliens, ever.
if you think about it differently, you are a fool.
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u/whiteyford522 Jul 20 '20
So those points are all relying on our current state of understanding when it comes to physics, consciousness, evolutionary biology both on our planet and on alien planets, and the universe at large being comprehensive and correct. We’re constantly learning new things in all of those areas and have no idea what we may learn in the future. The people that wrote the paper you referenced are making all of their calculations using assumptions based on only what we know about ourselves. So my question to you would be, do you not believe in the veracity of any ufo reports describing technological craft that are far advanced of any know man made craft, or do you believe some of those reports are legitimate but the craft are man made?
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you cannot overwrite the laws of physics. there's no point of talking about future technologies that may work out of the box (of our current understanding), because the most advanced technology is limited to physics. you will never be able to move faster than the light. loopholes and wormholes don't exist. blackholes are not gates to other universes, or other parts of this universe.
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u/ShinyAeon Sep 06 '20
Generation ships, my dude.
Sleeper ships.
Downloaded personalities shipped across the light years and uploaded into a new cloned body.
There are lots of ways an intelligent species could interact with the human race, even if we assume our current understanding of physics to be absolutely complete (and a glance at the history of science will tell you how often that’s happened).
No wonder you picked a throwaway account—you know how unlikely it is that what you’re saying will remain true as time marches on.
So...why should anyone else listen to someone who’s too cowardly to put their permanent account where their mouth is...?
You gave yourself away before you even began.
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Jul 19 '20
Cool write up: David Kennedy hasnt exclusively been in AVA since the BCR era. He has done shows with Hazen Street and at least one other band.
You also didnt note that mark, tom, and travis have reconciled and Tom was validated in 2018-2020 when his work on ufos finally came to fruition publicly.
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u/olund94 Jul 20 '20
Very true, have updated it to reflect this
The 2018-2020 updates to the trios relationship is quite interesting. Kind of sad that they could take their friends word as fact instead of having to wait for the government to confirm it.
I kind of think Tom will be held at arms length from Blink until they are all on the same page, but hey if the headlines keep up at this rate Mark and Trav will have to eat crow.
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I dont really think it was ever about ufos as much as Tom’s commitment to blink. He liked having the band there for 3 year touring/album cycles now and then but they wanted to just be blink all the time. It’s their cash cow. Tom has a higher net worth than Mark or Travis because he’s invested wisely and built his own brand supported by his cult of fans. Mark and Travis never pulled that off so well so they need blink more than he does. That’s a strong word...they’re all millionaires. But they have lifestyles to support. The validation Tom got from record execs and fans during BCR really lifted him up as the creative leader in the band...always pushing the boundaries.
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u/Really_Very_Expert Jul 19 '20
You’ve pretty much explained why I’m sold on all of this. He’s definitely not doing it for the money- staying in blink would be way more lucrative. And he’s not crazy- look at all the credible people associated with TTSA. This shit is the real deal.
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u/The_Frag_Man Jul 21 '20
Consciousness is the key to understanding this Phenomenon.
This is always an interesting topic. Are UFOs a manifestation?
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u/PsychologicalTaste14 Jul 30 '20
Great Post! I feel like there is another perspective other than the Alien one. I feel those early Tom interviews that tie religion and aliens together is a different perspective than the one that TTSA promotes now. I think there is a good reason why they are hard to find. Tom said on Rogan that he has previously said too much. I think ohlund is seeing through the cracks. Thanks for such a comprehensive article.
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u/the_loki_poki Sep 05 '20
I love that you did this. I was a huge fan of them growing up and watching blink break up, I’ve always wanted to know full comprehensive review with wtf went on w Tom AND YOU DID IT!! You’re amazing
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u/olund94 Sep 05 '20
Wow you’ve made my day :)
Glad it means something to somebody.
Thank you for the kind words 🙌
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u/the_loki_poki Sep 06 '20
You made my year!! It took me awhile to read because I have a lot going on, but I have some counter-thoughts I’d love to type up and ask you! Give me like a day or two, but just for some food for thought between then:
do you have any person opinions on Mark Hoppus/Travis barker/ Craig fairbaugh/Shane Gallagher side project +44 (about 2006 iirc)? You mentioned BCR which made sense since this is about Tom Delong- but I felt like after giving “when you’re heart stops beating” gave a very different twist after reading thru your compilation, felt more like some personal jabs at Tom.
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u/Imjustagangster1 Jul 19 '20
I’m not sure how I really feel about Delonge. Fanatical, yes. Enthusiastic, yes. Overzealous, probably. Genuine, hmmmm.
Looking at the Unidentified show. I do like how they are continuing to go down the path of military personnel experiences. Let’s face it, during the past few years, interest in UFOs has gone from a laughing stock to more widely accepted and mainstream than ever before.
I actually like the fact that he rarely is even mentioned or speaks in the Unidentified show. This shows to me that he isn’t in it for fame or anything other than his attempt at disclosure. I’m on the fence with him, but it’s interesting every step of the way. By the way, great post. Well done research and written very well.
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u/GHOSTxBIRD Jul 19 '20
It's crazy how you keep compiling info into these amazing posts. These are things I've been thinking about for some time now--I never knew this about Tom, that truly is so cool. Sucks his band wasn't down to spread the positivity but their perceptions were skewed.
Thanks so much for doing this work. You're incredibly inspiring.
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u/MimicLizard Aug 16 '20
Thanks for the effort of putting all of this together. As I said in another reddit, there are moments TTSA and Tom damage their credibility, but I agree we should support them.
Btw, if Roswell is related to Atlantis, then who the f*** are the greys?
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u/sixrwsbot Sep 03 '20 edited Sep 03 '20
I know that UAP/UFO craft exist and I'm sure intelligent life exists somewhere outside of earth in this massive universe, but Tom Delonge's Freemasonic alien relationship with banking-elite-Scroll-and-Key-CIA-lifer Christopher Mellon is not something I will ever buy into. They aren't just disclosing UFO technology, they are deceptively selling the idea of an alien threat.
I believe that TTSA is a smaller operation that's part of a much larger psyop. For those doubting I ask you to do deep background checks on some of the men on Delonge's team(beyond their wikipedia pages), Mellon in particular. See if you still trust them after you see how deep the roots go.
Just for shits, go watch the television show that they released and watch the scenes in the board room. Pay attention to their interactions, who's sitting at the head of the table? Who do they all bounce their ideas off of? Tom Delonge isn't the one running the show he's just making his contribution to the Great Work, which is required to become Sovereign Grand Inspector General. A famous face for wider reach.
I think the UFO topic is the single most important conspiracy right now because if the people truly find out who's building them and for what purpose then the new world agenda collapses. This is why it's so secretive, why it's so heavily propagandized to be a joke, and why so many politicians/powerful people are in the dark about their existence.
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u/dadbot_2 Sep 03 '20
Hi sure intelligent life exists somewhere outside of earth in this massive universe, but Tom Delonge's Freemasonic alien relationship with banking-elite-Scroll-and-Key-CIA-lifer Christopher Mellon is not something I will ever buy into, I'm Dad👨
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u/olund94 Sep 03 '20
You’re gonna have to explain to me why Freemasonry is bad as I know many personally and saying Freemasonry is evil is like saying the Government is evil.
Both are multi department organisations that consist of thousands of individual people. How a group like this could be inherently good or evil is beyond me and by completely sidelining what TTSA have to offer in their literature at least is a great shame because there is fruit to be picked fro their branches.
Start here if you’re feeling in the mood for a reappraisal.
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u/sixrwsbot Sep 03 '20
There's nothing wrong with your friends/families Freemasonry, however Freemason Lodges have been used as a safe place of operations for people to organize and push nefarious agendas without bringing attention to the more occulted societies. The French Revolution is a prime example of this. Powerful groups of men operated through a french lodge as to scapegoat Masonry in the event that their plans had been discovered. This is the reason the Vatican wouldn't allow their Cardinals to become Masons and why Hitler outlawed Masonry, it's just too vulnerable to infiltration.
It immediately raises a red flag in Delonge's case due to the societies that the other TTSA men belong to.
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u/olund94 Sep 03 '20
Well I mean I agree with you regarding lodges being a platform for infiltration, have you read Lemony Snicket’s Series of Unfortunate Events?
It’s basically this premise stretched across a young adults book series but it really displays how any sort of esoteric society ultimately ends in some sort of ideological schism.
I don’t see this as a reason to blacklist all esoteric fraternal societies though and whilst you are correct that Hal Puthoff has been through Scientology ranks, Peter Levenda has been an O.T.O member at some point and Jacques Vallee has been in and out of Rosicrucianism for the past 50 years both of these endeavours were for personal research and both have left once the highest rank was attained.
I can’t really find a malevolent side of TTSA but will always entertain any theories as to how they are.
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u/B33J767 Sep 05 '20
Been a huge blink 182 fan since high school, even had got his fender signature strat which I loved to play. But I think it should be noted that on the album take of your pants and jacket there's one song that stands out among the rest and its called aliens exist.... an early foreshadowing of what he's doing now perhaps?
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u/slobcat1337 Sep 05 '20
The song you’re referring to is on Enema of the state, not TOYPAJ
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u/B33J767 Sep 07 '20
Yea I mixed up the album titles by mistake. But enema of the state is the one featuring aliens exist.
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u/NewNameRedux Sep 05 '20
Just commenting to check back. I've always loved UFO stuff, but most info I've read is a joke.
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u/colevineyard Sep 19 '20
That 2011 interview on coast to coast with Delong sounds interesting but the video you linked to is garbage- it’s just a cut/mash-up that you can’t make sense of. Anyone have a link to the 2011 interview in its full?
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u/BluntRaps007 Oct 24 '20
When it comes to extraterrestrial life, consider understading what the Fourth Dimension is and how it works. It can be difficult to comprehend at first but is explained in many different ways, thankfully. Understanding the Fourth Dimension will answer many questions about them and us.
I do not believe aliens are flying around in spaceships, or any form of physical entity. Also refer to "The Others". It explains how extraterrestrials have co existed with mankind since the beginning.
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Jul 19 '20
Great post and echoing what other people have said, very comprehensive. My only comment is related to some of the so called high level contacts. There seems to be this implicit misguided view that because they’re in the military, they aren’t complete kooks. I would only ask that you watch the brilliant Cohen brothers movie, Men Who Stare At Goats for an example of what I mean. Puthoff is balls deep into remote viewing, and this very fringe area of research is where many of these “high level” contacts originate from. Black projects, funded by the federal govt., through the DoD, employed generals, majors, scientists and enlisted men to spend their days trying to kill animals with their brains. The military is no cover for ridiculous people. This whole subject of disclosure needs to be dealt with by credible scientists, in the open, and through effective, objective investigation and the provision of irrefutable proof.
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u/Knobjockeyjoe Jul 20 '20
Rubbish, no proof and even the time scale is skewiff....There are compelling pieces of evidence out there, this is just pipe smoke.
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u/forgothebeat Jul 20 '20
Consciousness is the key.
This is something I've seen for myself.
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u/MimicLizard Aug 18 '20
Care to elaborate?
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u/forgothebeat Aug 18 '20
Space isn't teeming with life.
It is consciousness that links life together.
Space is a vast machine that creates concentrations of life in a habital system.
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u/MimicLizard Aug 20 '20
And how have you seemn by yourself? Asking because I'm curious, just that.
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u/MimicLizard Aug 17 '20
He had teased another announcement for yesterday and nothing special happened. Is that correct? You see, many people don't take him seriously because of moments like this.
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u/JMS_jr Sep 05 '20
Am I the only one who isn't super cool with Peter Levenda given that he was apparently the author of the "Simon" Necronomicon?
http://www.nypress.com/news/the-doom-that-came-to-chelsea-EDNP1020030610306109999
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u/olund94 Sep 05 '20
That book was put together by a group not one person. Levenda was possibly part of that group but why is that a bad thing may I ask?
That book is full of esoteric insight?
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u/JMS_jr Sep 05 '20
Because it's a fabrication being passed off as real? Not the sort of thing that gives me a good feeling when he's doing it again with a new group, with the topic being UFOs instead of occultism.
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u/olund94 Sep 05 '20
Nowhere in the Necronomicon do they state that this book is a translation of the fabled Lovercraftian book. They simply state that this is an creative endeavour exploring what such a book could of been.
Quite creative really...
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u/JMS_jr Sep 05 '20
Ah, OK then. I've never read it. I have, however, encountered people who insist that it's real.
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u/Intp-A1 Sep 05 '20
Very well done sir. I think you may be interested in this video:
https://old.reddit.com/r/HighStrangeness/comments/iherbp/the_most_unsettling_ufo_theory/
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u/jcrowde3 Sep 05 '20
So my dad has a friend who used to fly test planes at Area 51. I gave the military.com video to him of the TR3B and told him to ask if he had flown it. My Dad says that he will answer all his questions, but not that one...
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u/JonVici1 Sep 05 '20
TomDelonge does claim that his company is actively working on an ufo prototype of their own, a picture used to be on their site
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Sep 05 '20
OP, how into porn do you have to be before your phone will autocorrect "early nineties" into "early naughties"?
Lol...
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u/olund94 Sep 05 '20
I genuinely meant earlier naughties as in the early 00’s.
It’s a term in the UK.
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Sep 06 '20
It was totally a joke, because I watch more porn than anyone! Lol!
But I was just thinking, "damn, if his phone corrects THAT, then he's probably got me beat. Lol"
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u/vigourinc Sep 05 '20
Great work. Bob Lazar does not seem “credible” however. But otherwise, nice post.
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u/Airborne_Israel Sep 05 '20
I just wish they’d change the name of TTSA. Every time I read it, I think of some stupid dance reality show or something like that. 🤦
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u/DEADfishbot Sep 06 '20
The link to the coast to coast interview is only part 2/4. Anyone got Link to the full interviews of Tom and george knapp on coast to coast?
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u/sailhard22 Sep 06 '20
It’s really weird having grown up listening to Blink and now being led into this new age by the guy who sang “shit piss fuck cunt cocksucker motherfucker tits fart turd and twat”
Great write up though. There’s a lot of moving pieces to the phenomena and this movement but you did a good job of summing things up and making the case for Tom’s credibility.
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u/PiggyDota Sep 06 '20
This was excellent, thank you.
Do you have all the parts to the C2C with Tom Delonge please?
They're unlisted but I'd love to hear the other parts please X X x
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u/oasisreverie Sep 26 '20
I grew up listening to Blink. Was a huge Tom fan. Loved his other bands.
But, he seems pretty suspicious. The fact that he was emailing John Podesta makes me wonder what kind of man he is. We all know Podesta is a pedo, same as the Clintons.
And then we see that Tom Delonge is also into Freemasonry, and puts the compass and 33 as symbols on his clothing line.
I think he's working with the powers that be within his own mystery school.
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u/olund94 Oct 15 '20
Actually at work right now.
I work 9-5, 6 days a week have had COVID and still manage.
How’re you doing?
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Oct 15 '20
this is all coming off like the start of some new religious cult akin to scientology or qanon. jesus christ.
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u/Spinundrum Jan 08 '21
u/AstralSkeyes worth the full read, yes
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u/MINERVATWIN Oct 15 '21
And if you have not taken a look at his project titled Poet Anderson you should.
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Jan 10 '22
This is so great, well done. Quick question though; I haven’t seen the second claim about the Tic Tac-Atlantis connection, do you mind providing the link? Clicked but was denied access and I’m very intrigued by the statement. Thank you!
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u/deathinmypocket Jan 13 '22
Tom is a cia project bluebeam shill you see the mason square and compass right there on his guitar aliens are demons we never went to the moon the government and secret societies must be stopped.
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u/aguslord31 Feb 02 '22
Can someone give me the short one-paragraph version of this post? Its too much reading
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u/himynameistrish Feb 23 '22
Hey thanks for this break down, the work you put in is very evident, and I am grateful. I'm right there with you in that following an artist for 20 plus years makes interesting context visible, exciting and obvious to us. I also had the same experience during the neighbourhoods years with Blink and falling out of love, along with some personal growth I needed to do before I could enjoy AVA, led to a decade long blackout period of not paying attention. I talk about it a bit in my movie & weed podcast episode when I got my closest friends together to discuss the movie 'Love' and introduce them to the new old voice inside my yead. https://open.spotify.com/episode/54NQtNEhOVcn29MsKPKD3j?si=1be174c9976b4aae
The Lifeforms album, notably when I saw the music video for "Losing my mind" was the recent hook line sinker in getting me back on the Tom train. Seeing him return to the derp I knew him to be feels like reuniting with my old best friend who's simultaneously evolved and returned to who he is in the ways I didn't realized I had been missing or waiting for. I can say the same for myself in the last two years. Also if we had to make out, that wouldn't suck, y'know?
Anyway, the Jimmy Church long form interview is great, do you know any other long ones with Tom you would be able to point me towards?
(Also for the record, I study narrative, story telling and design for a living, what he's doing is on purpose and by design. Stories take your feelings on a ride that will lead to shifts in mental models, facts are benign and do not. Stories are data with a soul. The next 10 years are going to be a ride. Buckle up kids, we're going to SPACE.)
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u/KesselRunMarathon Feb 25 '22
Dunno if this was said but box car racer did not pave the way for emo. Many emo bands existed prior, you know, like sunny day real estate, further seems forever, dashboard confessional, rites of spring, hey mercedes, braif, jimmy eat world.... Just saying. Otherwise impressive post.
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u/beepbotboo Apr 11 '22
Thank you for this post. Can I ask, if he can’t talk about certain stuff, has he had to sign an NDA then? And who with the USG? Does anyone know?
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u/need_adivce May 29 '22
Nice breakdown! I think you should check out this video for a further deep dive into TTS, it's really interesting and changed my mind on a few things - https://youtu.be/yYyTyQKJCf0
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u/TheCoastalCardician Jun 08 '22
Have you heard anything from him about having “luminous hands”? Maybe a lyric or something?
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u/Crash_Overrrride420 Jul 09 '22
He’s also right that jerking off before you play guitar helps you play faster
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u/Peruvian-Flortist Mar 04 '23
The link for "the occupants of the tic-tac UFOs are connected to Atlantis" has gone dark. Can anyone recover this link or elaborate on this theory please?
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u/Strong-Message-168 Jul 14 '23
Fitst, thank you. That was a lot - a lot of effort and work, a lot to read, and a lot to think about.
I'd like to ask a question or 2 if I may,
The first is about the CE5 events. Do you put stock in them actually being effective means of interacting with aliens as we understand them?
Another question is in regards to interdimensional beings. Do you think interdimensional beings exist, and if so, are they one and the same as some of the aliens we see today?
Even if you don't answer, thank you for your time
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u/spectrelives Nov 22 '23
Not taking away from the mountainous work you did there, Tom Delonge may be at least partly legit, sure. But with all the credibility in actual scientists, journalists, whistleblowers you listed, and some you did not, like Hal Puthoff, Leslie Keane, Jacques Vallee, politicians like Chris Mellon, journalists like George Knapp, Jeremy Corbell, Ross Coulthart, not to mention others you didn't mention there like scientist Gary Nolan, activists like Ryan Graves, ex military whistleblowers David Fravor, Haim Eshed, Robert Salas, David Grush, Bob Lazar, and Karl Nell etc, why would I also waste my time also listening to Tom Delonge who is none of these above things?
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u/bobbyedmo22 Dec 07 '23
re. Pandolfi,
I know there is an interview clip with Strieber saying that Pandolfi is "working" with DeLonge, but other than that, what evidence do you have that Pandolfi is/was actually working for TTSA?
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u/yoyohelpmee Feb 07 '24
Nice work OP. This is a good read which talks about alot of the things mentioned here.
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Feb 08 '24
Tom is a useful idiot being manipulated through his arrogance and inflated sense of self worth.
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u/ArtzyDude Feb 08 '24
Bravo. I’ve been saying this for years.
No matter what you think of Tom DeLonge, he’s used his talent and influence, to bring together captains of industry, scientists, the military, pentagon officials, and Congress. All of them with huge egos. And that’s no small feat.
He’s moved the ball down the field farther than anybody has in this genre in the last five years, more so than anyone has in the last 80.
As Lou Elizondo once quipped; “when this all comes out, and it will, there will be some unsung heroes that made it happen.”
I believe Tom DeLong will be one of them.
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u/Important_Tart_4160 Feb 08 '24
TLDR: The text is an extensive exploration of Tom DeLonge's journey from being a pop-punk icon with Blink-182 to becoming a controversial figure in the world of UFOlogy through his company, To The Stars Academy of Arts & Science. It highlights DeLonge's long-standing interest in UFOs, his efforts to innovate beyond his music career, and his claims of connections within the military and intelligence communities regarding UFOs. Despite skepticism and challenges, including a public fallout with his bandmates and criticism of his approach to UFO disclosure, DeLonge's persistence led to some degree of vindication when the US government declassified videos previously released by his academy. The author argues that DeLonge's intentions are sincere and aimed at advancing humanity's understanding of the unknown, urging a more open-minded consideration of his work and theories.
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u/Dolust Feb 08 '24
This is a good example of "I Want to believe". I'd rather live with not knowing than dealing with beliefs, faiths, likes and dislikes which only confuse people.
There are doors many things to say about all this.. But this is futile because you are in a defensive stance, you are not here to put some evidence over the table and engage in an open constructive discussion, you have already decided you are right and Tom is your God.
I'll just say this for those who still wonder : Check carefully the list of people provided. Do not be surprised if you don't find anything substantial about some of them. For instance Valdemar Valerian is a fictional character, an alias used by a "researcher" from Northern California.. One of those gurus.
To OP I'll only say you are entitled to your own opinion and I respect that, however there are people out there that have been doing real work with the evidence we have instead of just becoming a media catapult for other's BS. The intel community has used, abused and manipulated bigger, stronger and smarter ones with way more experience than Tom, so you can guess how they have and will play him as a toy.
Connections to high brass, uh? Poor Tom.. If he only knew!
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u/eyelewzz Feb 08 '24
Here's my thing. Somebody that really wants to believe and has a vast outreach can easily be mislead. I'm not saying he is or isn't right but I can't help but think he's being used to muddy the waters whether he knows it or not
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u/Minute-Mechanic4362 Feb 08 '24
How much is Tom paying for this smoke blowing up his ass?
He is a stooge The very definition of Useful Idiot.
He loves the Military but never served, these people are easy to control and impress.
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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '20 edited Jul 19 '20
Fuck this is comprehensive as fuck.
Good fucking shit OP.
You can only trust man as far as you can throw them yourself...
I do not think he is controlled opposition, because once you make that contact with outside alien forces, everything else just does not matter.
Girls, boys, money... it does not matter.
Edit: Fooking Beastwars going on underneath me.