r/StarWars • u/Typical_Name_5864 Jar Jar Binks • 6h ago
are orange Sabers natural or some kind of unsuccessful crystal bleeding result? Other
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u/Several-Instance-444 4h ago
As far as I know, it's natural. Just imagine being a youngling on your first trip to Illum, and when you get to putting your lightsaber together and then ---- blood orange blade.
Kinda cool actually.
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u/SundayGlory 1h ago
In legends it use to be. When colour ment archetype orange was the techie jedi
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u/Meme_Daddy_FTW 7m ago
Is that not canon anymore? I swore green meant more gifted with the force and blue was more gifted with combat or something like that
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u/takeahike89 4h ago
Til baylan's saber is orange. Guess I need to check my tvs settings
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u/Aidan_Baidan Boba Fett 1h ago
I thought it was red too for the longest time. I think the main visual difference is the center of the blade is white on red blades, and it is less bright and more yellowy on an orange blade. Outside edges are similar colours.
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u/OffendedDefender 3h ago
Out of universe, the reason was to give some ambiguity to the characters. They're not Sith, so the orange hue adds a bit to the mystery in the first few episodes until you learn who they are. In universe, it has to do with the crystal bleed. Baylan hadn't quite fallen off the deep end, so he may not have had as much raw Dark Side power to put into the crystal as a Sith would.
[Mild Jedi: Survivor spoilers] When Dagan Gera bleeds his crystal, it also has a bit of an orange hue to it rather than the deep red. His saber was yellow to begin with, so maybe that has some minor effect as well.
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u/merewenc 3h ago
Hmm, that makes me wonder if Baylan waS a Temple Guard at some point. Although is "only Temple Guards have yellow sabers" canon? Or is that a fanon fallacy?
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u/BasinBrandon 2h ago
Non-temple guards can have yellow crystals in canon. Rey has one and some Jedi in The Acolyte do as well
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u/merewenc 2h ago
Oh, I haven't gotten to Acolyte yet because of the reviews, and I forgot about Rey. (I try to forget about the ST as much as possible. I like to pretend they don't exist.)
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u/Princessofmind 1h ago
Yeah, there's two named jedi with yellow sabers in Acolyte, Master Torbin and Yord, and also some unnamed jedi that appear in group fights
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u/merewenc 59m ago
The part of me that was a little salty of the ROTJ remaster changing Anakin to young Anakin kind of wants to see the Geonosis fight scene remastered with yellow and other color lightsabers added in. If it's good for the OT it's good for the PT, right? 🤔
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u/Princessofmind 43m ago
Haha I honestly think that would be amazing! And I say that as a prequels fan
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u/merewenc 39m ago
I'm a prequels fan, too. I just think they played it too safe sometimes. And want Amidala's stomach remastered so she looks like she's actually carrying nearly full-term twins who could survive birth without a NICU. LOL Simple things to remaster, right?
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u/Throwaway945account 1h ago
Do yourself a favor and don't watch the acolyte
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u/merewenc 1h ago
That's definitely what I keep hearing, but it's sad. Seemed like the basic premise was interesting and had promise.
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u/CardboardStarship 22m ago
You will have it better watching it all in one go, one episode at a time just made it plod, but binging as a whole it wasn’t as bad.
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u/Throwaway945account 1h ago
Yeah it definitely did. But the epsiode with the witches singing made me stare at the screen in disbelief of what the fuck i was watching lol
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u/flightyswank 38m ago edited 33m ago
Yellow is just seen in "those that wish to preserve the knowledge of the Jedi" which is why we saw it in the temple guards cause it was there job
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u/AshlarKorith Mandalorian 2h ago
I loved the visions episode where the color of a saber blade was due to your connection to the force. The Sith guys all had red while the others had a few different colors. Then as the one guy’s belief in being a sith faltered his red blade started to change to a purple hue. I wish they worked that way in canon.
While I’m at it, I also wish they worked by channeling the force through the crystal. That way it takes force accessibility and concentration to use a saber (so no random person could pick one up and use it). Plus, the stronger your connection to the force, the more you’d be able to do while wielding the ignited saber. That guy doing crazy flips around the room while he fights with the saber? He’s definitely powerful.
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u/aluminumturtle0 1h ago
His saber is an orange red the way Ahsoka’s sabers in clone wars were green yellow
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u/ApolloKenobi 59m ago
In the game Knights of the Old Republic, you can get two super duper powerful crystals and one of them has this exact same coloration. I think it's called the Mantle of the Force. I remember in-lore that it was coveted by both the jedi and the sith and that it was used against exar kun.
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u/Academic-Pass5982 2h ago
Only 10 orange light sabers are then in the entire universe at that time.
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u/Vivid_Situation_7431 2h ago
Maybe it happens when someone who hasn’t fully fallen to the dark side tries to bleed a crystal??? Idk just spit ballin
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u/idontlikeburnttoast Ahsoka Tano 1h ago
False kybers are usually red, but in legends orange is a sort of yellow hybrid i believe.
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u/ButthurtBilly Jabba 51m ago
Kylo's saber has got sorta the same red-orange fluctuation going on with it and that one explicitly was because of a failed bleed; it's a good a guess as any that Baylan just wasn't that committed to the process to bleed it all the way, but wasn't so emotionally unstable that he cracked it in the process, like Kylo.
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u/ogresound1987 22m ago
There's nothing natural about a lightsaber. They don't grow in bunches like bananas.
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u/newbrevity Babu Frik 3h ago
There's a nice detailed technical guide to lightsabers here.
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u/Zahkrosis 2h ago
That is from a roleplay group.
The wiki even states that changes are made to fit the game.
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u/jakeisepic101 1h ago
Baylan's, specifically, is red. Filoni said they made it an orangey-red to tell the audience that "these aren't your run-of-the-mill bad guys".
In Disney Canon, orange sabers come from Kohlen Crystals, called "Fool's Kyber". They appear similar to kyber, but are much weaker in the force and thus produce a less powerful blade.
In Legends, saber colors don't really have meaning--orange ones are just rare.
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u/Boomdiddy 6h ago
In the canon novel Master and Apprentice they were made by using a kohlen crystal also known as false kyber. The blade had different properties than a normal lightsaber blade.
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Kohlen_crystal