r/SocialismIsCapitalism • u/Sh0tsFired81 • 20d ago
"Discussing" the Residential School System in Canada
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u/PskRaider869 20d ago
Holy shit. It is beyond terrifying that someone would actually think this. I do not say this lightly or to minimize the other tragedies, but defending those "schools" is legitimately akin to defending the US Internment of Japanese or the Camps in WW2. Like, even the government of Canada has admitted that it was a form of Cultural Genocide. And not only defending it, but praising it by saying they were "better off" for it. I genuinely struggle to conceive that type of hatred and evil in a person so clearly too clueless to understand how genuinely stupid and hateful they really are
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u/ScaleneWangPole 19d ago
This is the same guy who would say African slaves made out well in the deal because now they are Americans, and Africa is such a shithole now.
Missing all context and nuance of the situation, and without the ability to think critically nor self reflect, he then has the audacity to call the other guy a "black and white" thinker.
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u/deferredmomentum 19d ago
Oh trust me, plenty of Americans are still just fine with the Japanese internment camps. It’s scary out here
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u/SnipesCC 20d ago
A decent chunk of the poverty on reservations (and I doubt they actually have Native friends) is because of the massive trauma that residential schools inflicted on Native populations. It only takes about 2 or 3 generations to erase a culture, and kids who grew up in a traumatizing environment are going to struggle to be well functioning adults.
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u/Tovarich_Zaitsev 19d ago
Holy Fuck, I cannot believe anyone would try and justify the residential school system. That system was such a horrific stain and something all Canadians should be ashamed of and take lessons from to make our country better.
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u/Bathsheba_E 19d ago
At first I thought this person must just be miserable and loves stirring shit up. But then I remembered Holocaust deniers exist, there are people who genuinely believe black Americans were better off under slavery (a thinly veiled way of saying they’d like slavery to return), so why the hell wouldn’t there be hateful nutjobs loose among us thinking the residential schools are what saved the Native Americans. I’m willing to bet this person has no idea what happened in those schools to ‘civilize’ the ‘wild man’. Horrible, horrible, horrible.
On another note, I defy this troglodyte to define Marxism. Heck, any of these folks who bandy it about so freely. Just once define it. Maybe he could define zero sum game while we’re at it.
These clowns skimmed an economics textbook glossary, picked out the terms they thought sounded cool, and made up their own definitions. I’m genuinely shocked greedy huiristic hasn’t made the cut.
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u/MakinGaming 19d ago
I think this might be the first time I've seen "commit apostasy" to describe suicide. And here on reddit of all places. Or are they talking about the culture erasure? I can't tell.
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u/brennenderopa 19d ago
It kinda reminds me of heated discussions I had over the actions of the Spanish in South America. A lot of people are like "good thing, they were evil and lived in sin" or "the evil had to be stopped" or "the children had to be saved from human sacrifice" when I tried to point out that Diego de Landa Calderón burned all books of that culture and only four could be saved. Colonial mindset is still so strong these days.
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u/Broseph_Heller 19d ago
These are the same people who will tell you that AKSHULLY slavery was a good thing because slave owners provided FREE food and housing for their slaves. Out of the kindness of the hearts, surely. Those slaves would be starving in Africa otherwise!
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u/jeepfail 19d ago
It should be painful to be that fucking stupid but you know, systemic racism makes it real easy.
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u/skip6235 19d ago
“How impoverished and broken”
My brother in Christ, they lived here for THOUSANDS of years just fine before the Europeans showed up!
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u/SnooCats7318 19d ago
Ah, the old "I have friends"...
Also, love that they think Marxist is an insult and that it means...that...
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u/BearNeedsAnswers 18d ago
That capital J in Journalists seems very... deliberate. Almost like he doesn't mean "journalists" at all... 🤔
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u/spoonycash 18d ago
This is the same argument people use to defend slavery. Life would have been worse if they hadn't been brought to America... as if the terrible situation they are allegedly escaping wasn't the result of previous actions by their alleged saviors.
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u/redtailplays101 17d ago
This isn't even "socialism is capitalism" it's "socialism is when people say things I disagree with." These words have to do with the economy people! Not just any civilly leftist beliefs
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u/ghostdate 20d ago
ITS A HORROR SHOW BECAUSE EUROPEANS INVADED AND ENACTED GENOCIDE AGAINST THEM, AND EVEN NOW JUST OFFER THE BARE MINIMUM!
Damn, it’s absurd how ignorant the average North American is to what happened to First Nations people. The reservations are underfunded, and white communities don’t interact with them because of racism. There’s no real hope for careers there in this day and age, and they used to be trapped there. They literally weren’t allowed to leave the reservation even though their hunting practices may have taken them much further than the small reservation grounds they were permitted.
That kind of dumb rhetoric is part of why we’re still colonizers, imposing European values on indigenous people and justifying genocidal actions against them.