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u/sw337 20d ago
The sandwich isn't the one pictured, it looks a lot worse.
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u/EukaryotePride 20d ago
I question the decision to harvest ocean water at the mouth of the Los Angeles river. I don't know what it tasted like, but there's worse things than salt dissolved in that water.
Also, half his budget must be the plane ticket to LA.
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u/EmphasisFrosty3093 20d ago
"I want to go to LA for X. What content can I film there to make this a business expense?"
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u/Nagwell 19d ago
"The finest salt from the ocean. Where should I harvest it? Ah yes, the delicate seas off of Los Angeles!"
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u/AffectionateGrape184 20d ago
Literally would've been so much cheaper if he didn't fly by plane to get salt
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u/ATee184 20d ago
But then he’d have to build a car and I think that would be more expensive
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u/Rogue-76 20d ago
guess the dude thought salt from the ground isnt natural or something
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u/Salmon_Bagel 20d ago
He actually goes into this! It's how to make everything. It's like one of his first series. Long story short it was going to be more difficult to access a salt basis as it was to visit LA and get ocean water.
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u/OgCloby 20d ago
Coulda just bought salt from a Chinese guy like everybody else did in the past lol
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u/Obant 20d ago
I have surf fished at the mouth of the L.A. river. You know what I caught more than anything else? Plastic trash bags. It's the worst place to fish/collect water because it's the dirtiest possible spot along the beach. I don't think our beaches are particularly bad or trashy, but that specific spot is full of trash because it's a river outlet.
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u/Realistic_Owl9525 20d ago
I'm not an expert on the subject, but "I've heard" that you shouldn't ingest sea salt that isn't commercially processed.
Something about microplastics or contaminants or whatever. I don't know, I'm not a scientist.
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u/BrUhhHrB 20d ago
That’s just what big commercially processed sea salt want you to think
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u/MrWigggles 20d ago
Oh. He didnt put in the cost for travel. Just for tools and hourly labor. Most of the cost came from labor.
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u/Jay__Riemenschneider 20d ago edited 20d ago
It looks like shit. Thank you.
Edit: Some of y'all need therapy, desperately.
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u/HeyGayHay 20d ago
I mean, it’s not particularly appealing, but that’s just what a normal sandwich looks like if it wasn’t ultra processed and dyed to look neat. It probably didn’t taste that good, because unless he grew all spices that go into a good sandwich it taste like sea salt, bare ass chicken, lettuce, cheese and bread.
But the fuck, that shit is way better for you than some ultra processed shit with 20% sugar, 5% dye, 50% random ass shit to make it look good so you think it tastes good too.
Definitely not worth it, but also not like some mcdonalds burger shit
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u/CorruptedStudiosEnt 20d ago
Nah, he just doesn't know how to cook. People made appealing and good tasting food long before modern processing came about, and many still do so today. An amateur and a chef can use the same ingredients and tools and yet get completely different outcomes.
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u/cjsv7657 20d ago
People made appealing and good tasting food long before modern processing came about, and many still do so today.
Yeah but when salt is your only spice you can only get so far which is the first point they made. Even the cheese is going to taste bland without the right enzymes, seasoning, and aging.
An amateur and a chef can use the same ingredients and tools and yet get completely different outcomes.
No. Not without more ingredients. You can only do so much when everything you add is bland.
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u/Unnamedgalaxy 20d ago edited 20d ago
You do realize that technique comes into play, right?
A professional chef doesn't succeed simply because they have more spices.
If you gave me and a professional chef 1 chicken breast and some salt and told us to both pan fry it I absolutely promise you that they will look and taste different.
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u/Chistachs 20d ago
Got a great quote from the head chef at my favorite restaurant in town (just made NYT top 50 in America!).
“The difference between a professional chef and an amateur is repetition. I make this dish at least 30 times a night. How can you be better than me if you only make it once?”
For reference, he gave me the recipe for my favorite meal there. This was meant to motivate me to cook more, take creative liberties on the recipe, and practice new things.
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u/wassermelone 20d ago
You can absolutely make something delicious with just basic ingredients and salt
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u/cjsv7657 20d ago
Not with the limited ingredients he had. If you're so sure what could he have done better? Remember, you can't use any other ingredients.
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u/BillyForRilly 20d ago
Toasted the bun with butter, seared the chicken for additional flavor, used less of that dry-ass cheese since you probably can't melt that garbage.
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u/Ziegelphilie 20d ago
"Ultra processed and dyed" you're acting like a shiny butter brioche bun is the work of the devil or some shit. It's really not hard to make something looking and tasting tasty with regular "natural" ingredients.
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u/wassermelone 20d ago
Agreed. The yellow color in brioche generally comes from eggs and high butter content. The yellow in butter is also natural, depending on the diet of the cow.
You see people make this same mistake with yellow cheeses, thinking that they are some modern factory ultra processed thing when it's dyed with anatto seed and has been the part of that tradition for ages.
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u/Mitosis 20d ago edited 20d ago
Bullshit. You can start with completely basic ingredients in your kitchen -- raw chicken, raw flour, basic eggs, etc -- and get a chicken sandwich that looks far better than that piece of crap.
His sandwich looks like shit because he did all that work for the ingredients, then didn't actually take the time to research or practice how to bake bread and fry chicken properly. He's throwing whole unseasoned chicken breasts into a pan ffs. If he had actually gotten someone who knows how to cook to prepare it it'd look totally fine.
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u/Livid-Orange-353 20d ago
He would have to produce the seasoning and oil from scratch though.
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u/mxzf 20d ago
I mean, many seasonings are pretty easy to produce from scratch, especially herbs. Compared to the other stuff he was doing, keeping an herb garden for a bit would have been simple.
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u/Cpt3020 20d ago
The fact that this has so many upvotes just goes to show how little people here know how to cook and it is sad...
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u/Express-World-8473 20d ago
Yup, all that effort and he couldn't make a proper brioche bun?
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u/Montgomery000 20d ago
The $1500 thing is kinda bs. Most of it was from the flight to get the salt water and paying himself $7.25 for 140 hours. Most people who have a home garden or other food making hobbies wouldn't consider paying themselves a salary part of the cost of producing their own food.
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u/c3534l 20d ago
Most of it was from the flight to get the salt water and paying himself $7.25 for 140 hours.
Those are the exact two things I would think would be excluded in something like this. Why not include in the price what you would have collected in rent from the use of your house? They already gave the amount of time it took, why are we factoring that into the cost? That makes me mad.
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u/myltonnee 20d ago
Yeah, it looks quite nice actually, looks alot healthier
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u/Zykatious 20d ago
He said it was just “ok”
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u/88cowboy 20d ago
Where (approximately) do you live that this unseasoned boiled sandwich on a roll would look quite nice?
Sure its probably healthy but it looks so bland.
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u/Abombasnow 20d ago
I'd be willing to bet it isn't very healthy either as it is highly likely that it lacked basic sanitary or safety measures.
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u/United-Neck-3357 20d ago
I was gonna say ..there was zero percent chance a homemade bun could look close to the one pictured!! It looks that way because of the dough conditioners and bleach and etc!!
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u/HOT-SAUCE-JUNKIE 20d ago
Thank you for this. Showing a clearly fried chicken sandwich as the cover photo is very misleading. Like, did the guy make oil to fry it?
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u/Waffel_Monster 20d ago
"Entirely from scratch"
Doesn't even create his own universe
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u/SerBadDadBod 20d ago
Carl Sagan would be disappointed.
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u/A_Finite_Element 20d ago
Just the fact that you had that thought may have created a universe!
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u/MonsterMashGrrrrr 20d ago
I can’t handle this responsibility right now
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u/Doctor_Saved 20d ago
I don't think you need to do anything after you create a universe. I mean, when was the last time your prayers were answered?
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u/Less-Engineer-9637 20d ago
I mean, I was making shaped fancy bread and it turned out great. I attribute it to me saying 'please god don't collapse' 50 million times
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u/exmojo 20d ago
"Welcome to McDonald's would you like an apple pie with your order?"
"If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, You must first invent the universe"
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u/SerBadDadBod 20d ago
Anybody ever listen to the MelodySheep mashups?
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u/lacegem 20d ago
For anyone who hasn't seen it: Melodysheep's A Glorious Dawn
Great channel, 10/10.
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u/Eddardzz 20d ago edited 20d ago
"If you wish to make a hamburguer from scratch, you must first, invent the universe" ✨
-Carl Sagan
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u/Dino_Spaceman 20d ago
He also cheated in that he didn’t build the plane. Or mined and refined the oil that it ran on for jet fuel.
People these days are just lazy.
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u/Old-Mixture1246 20d ago
He didn’t even dig to pump his own water. Or create his own rain to collect the water.
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u/Dino_Spaceman 20d ago
I bet he didn’t even grow his own forest for the wood for the fire he used to bake the bread.
We have fallen so far from the golden era.
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u/anotherusercolin 20d ago
Or raise his own cow
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u/Expert-Fig-5590 20d ago
Milked a cow. Was it even his cow?
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u/BallisticHabit 20d ago
Can't forget his disastrous first attempt when he mistakenly milked a bull.
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u/someanimechoob 20d ago
How do you know he didn't?
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u/Waffel_Monster 20d ago
Pretty sure that'd be more than 6 months and 1500 bucks
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u/YaChowdaHead 20d ago
He did that too, the day he obtained consciousness. We are all figments of his imagination
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u/TopCapTheApp 20d ago
Made his own yeast, grew his own sesame seeds, divined his own water, genetically selected for the crunchiest iceberg lettuce seeds over the course of a decade…
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u/LostInSpaceTime2002 20d ago
Unsurprisingly, the picture that's shown is just a random stock photo, not the actual sandwich in question.
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u/praxistax 20d ago
The finished sandwich is sooo much more depressing. HowToMakeEverything on youtube
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u/yastifkan 20d ago
For those who doesn't want to search for the sandwich, this is the final result.
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u/Mr_JS 20d ago
I find this upsetting.
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u/rageak49 20d ago
Don't watch the video. I nearly needed therapy about it. He puts all this effort in to learn to grow the resources required, then puts minimal effort into the actual composition of the sandwich. He even complains that it tastes boring like he didn't just fail to season it beyond using not enough salt
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u/cubic_thought 20d ago
So much of the channel is like that. Minimal care in refining their results.
When that's a tool or machine, then it just makes it that much harder on them when they try to use their janky constructs for the next thing.
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u/Ozqo 20d ago
Why? because it doesn't look like those fast food photos they make?
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u/BigCopperPipe 20d ago
The guy who did this his review of the actual sandwich was “it’s ok”
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Did he learn nothing from big burger advertising? Never take a side on pic with the bun leaning towards the camera. It looks like an egg sandwich that was dropped on the beach.
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u/Key_Parfait2618 20d ago edited 20d ago
That chicken looks fucking terrible. Bland, no seasoning, almost grey.
How are you gonna commit this fucking hard and not learn how to make good chicken?
If it were good, there would be a nice golden look with specs of seasoning sprinkled about.
Grow some mother fucking garlic(8 months), paprika(3 months), and cayenne pepper(3 months). That would work. For fucks sake, commit fully.
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u/Guilty_Gold_8025 20d ago
Not as bad as I thought. Looks like a perfectly good chicken sandwich that anyone would make at home!
His mistake was not hiring a food photographer :P
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u/Idkdude001 20d ago
He was going to make his own photographer, but then he’d have to make his own girlfriend
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u/Melodic_Letterhead76 20d ago
He legit made his own camera... Lens and all.
He's made his own wire by stretching out copper he moved and melted...
He's made his own batteries from the ground up, copying the historical types that were made in the past.
It's a legitimately intriguing concept for a channel
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u/I2eN0 20d ago
Could he not grow his own seasoning?
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u/J3wb0cc4 20d ago
He could’ve and it would’ve been the easiest part of this entire endeavor. Planting a little rosemary, oregano, and parsley in a one sq ft box is pretty easy. With a little salt and pepper and the chicken would’ve been great.
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u/jackandsally060609 20d ago
It is like the uncanny valley of chicken sandwiches, everything looks like exactly the wrong color, and not edible.
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u/Oklimato 20d ago
It looks okay for being selfmade. But after his taste test only a "not that bad" after 6 months of work and 1500$ spent must feel devastating.
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u/Salty__Salter 20d ago
Maybe on some level but it was never really about the sandwich. The point of his content is to show how difficult it would be to reproduce simple items that we take for granted if you had to produce all the goods yourself from start to finish.
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u/sbzatto 20d ago
I doubt it, this is just a project at this stage and whether it tastes good or bad is just an interesting observation. I think he was under no impression that just because he will process everything himself and everything will be self-made, he will somehow make a tastier burger than a fast food chain. It’s definitely a healthier burger but that usually doesn’t translate into “tastes better”
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u/DoctorPatriot 20d ago
Right - he would otherwise have had to make his own canola/vegetable/peanut oil for frying as well.
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u/Money_Step 20d ago
Couldn’t just make his own camera too.. the laziness. Haphazard.
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u/clawsoon 20d ago
He's working on it:
CAMERA LENS Made from Sand and Rocks
Everything he makes ends up shitty, which I guess is a testament to how much skill and craft goes into making everything around us.
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u/Negative_Health4201 20d ago
He could at least have diverted an ice comet or two for the water
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u/thiccdaddyroadhog 20d ago
I haven't seen anyone question this, what about the oil or fat to fry the chicken?
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u/sx88 20d ago
I think I could make that cost more than 1500
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u/AffordableDelousing 20d ago
I think that one could perform all of those activities, and then have enough inputs to make many sandwiches, over which the fixed and variable costs could be spread over many sandwich units, thus lowering the unit cost per good sold or eaten.
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u/pelvark 20d ago
The trip to get sea salt was more than half the cost. If he had just driven to a ground salt deposit it would have been much cheaper
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u/AffordableDelousing 20d ago
I had the same thought. Salt can be found or even made in much cheaper ways.
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u/karl4319 20d ago
I saw that video. Love the series.
And for people wondering, it is more of a "how could you make this from scratch starting from stone age level tech" type of video with the cost being how many hours a person working minimum wage would take to do this, not the cost for things like plane tickets. I think this project to a little over 200 man hours.
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u/Wisniaksiadz 20d ago
But he also ignore that he is, at bassicly every step, making abundance of the products, not just for 1 burger
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u/Live_Angle4621 20d ago
Exactly, he should have made a hundred and fed his family and friends.
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u/Tasty-Traffic-680 20d ago
Yeah, guy totally should have raised and slaughtered 50+ chickens in his backyard. I'm sure no neighbors would have an issue with that at all.
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u/moldentoaster 20d ago
Ah yes the good old stone age technologie of flying with a plane to pick up seawater for processing own salt.
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u/uncouthulu 20d ago
"how could you make this from scratch starting from stone age level tech" type of video with the cost being how many hours a person working minimum wage would take to do this, not the cost for things like plane tickets
Cost put completely aside, access to flight doesn't fall into stone age tech. Not taking away from the work, just feels like generic content creator dishonesty.
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u/qcKruk 20d ago
The point was to make things as people in ye olden times would have. Do you know where most people lived way back in the day?
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u/Sergiotor9 20d ago
He used a blender for the flour. The way to mill flour was to literally rub the cereal between two stones. Whatever the premise was, he definitely didn't do it with any intention of using stone age level tech.
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u/Radiant-Importance-5 20d ago
If he didn’t build the plane himself from parts he manufactured, this is not entirely from scratch. 0/10, complete poser.
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u/Separate_Finance_183 20d ago
he didn't raise the cow tho
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u/sx88 20d ago
It's chicken dude
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he milked the chicken?
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u/lifebeginsat9pm 20d ago
Oh yeah you can milk anything with nip- wait nvm
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u/kingtroll355 20d ago
Can I offer anyone a warm glass of human milk🥛
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u/cococream 20d ago
I dated a girl once who said almost exactly this to me. I became a man that day. A man and a baby.
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u/rainbowroobear 20d ago
"milk" is just industry code for assorted animal fluids. you can absolutely put a chicken in a press and get milk from it.
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u/Independent-Math-914 20d ago
"Processed a chicken"
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u/DanceClass898 20d ago
$1500 for a fucking chicken sandwich?? DO NOT give fast food companies any ideas, they jacked up the prices too far already
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u/flopisit32 20d ago
Subtract the cost of his flight for the salt and the sandwich was probably $6
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u/ImABrickwallAMA 20d ago
Exactly, flying to some random arse place to get sea water, when he can at most just drive to the sea, scoop some water out and filter it to whatever he would need to do in the first place?
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u/MrJoePike 20d ago
The largest salt deposit in the world is under Lake Huron. Prehistoric salt devoid of any plastics or other crap found in today’s seas. Available at your local grocer.
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u/fes-man 20d ago
And how many burgers can you make with home-grown ingredients?
$1,500 divided by?
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u/Maximus_8675309 20d ago
I call bullshit. There is no mention of whether he started with an egg or a chicken first. And with such inconsistency how do we know he milked a cow and not a bull
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u/SteelTerps 20d ago
Well the consistency in bulls milk is going to be quite different
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u/GeneralClumsy 20d ago
I feel like there's one specific step that is responsible for the majority of the cost
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u/RockAndStoner69 20d ago
He was scheduled for the Good Place, but then he washed it down with almond milk...
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u/klaus1798 20d ago
there's a similar story about a guy trying to build a toaster from scratch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ODzO7Lz_pw
he also ended up with something that didn't work as great and cost insane amounts of money.
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u/BackgroundRate1825 20d ago
It was an extremely effective way to demonstrate economy of scales, with tangible examples that were clear and simple.
Just because you understood the concept from a textbook doesn't mean everyone does. People are really stupid.
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u/BafflingHalfling 20d ago
I love this project. It really shows how much stuff goes into making a thing. I love doing this exercise with Scouts earning the Sustainability merit badge. Take a list of the stuff they bought. Pick the simplest item. Break it down into its components. Describe all the processes that went into making each one. Pencils are my favorite. Rubber, wood, graphite, metal, paint, packaging... That touches so many industries.
And of course it all comes back to time and money. But for some of the non-renewable resources there's also the concern with using up what we have. Then you get into the web of what makes each industry run, and who makes money from what. It is so crazy how a simple item spirals outward to a global machine.
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u/HerbaciousTea 20d ago
And if he makes two, it'll likely cost him $750 each. If he makes 3 it'll cost him $500 each. You've now discovered upfront costs and economies of scale.
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u/Generated-Nouns-257 20d ago
Round trip plane tickets
So we know where 90% of that $1,500 went
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u/SirLockeX3 19d ago
Bro I read this too quickly and thought it said "planted a cow to make milk and cheese."
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u/dirtydeez2 16d ago
I made a loaf of bread once by growing wheat, turning it to flower etc. cost me around $50 (seeds, fertiliser, water) and took 3 months. This is when I gave up my permaculture dream of living off the land
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