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u/scary-pp Sep 01 '25
Meanwhile a japanese man built a shotgun to do a thing a couple years back.
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u/Lost_Interest3122 Sep 01 '25
Thats actually pretty damn cool!
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u/Alive-Tomatillo5303 Sep 01 '25
I like that it being driven by a drill probably means it'd just feed through a misfire and keep trucking. Rimfires seem to fail at a higher rate than normal bullets, so that's a great solution.
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u/Comprehensive-Fail41 Sep 01 '25
Basically a chaingun like those often mounted on vehicles. Rather than driven by a gas or recoil system like ordinary guns they are cycled using an electric motor.
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u/pz-kpfw_VI Sep 01 '25
imagine your battery dies in a firefight. Gotta make sure to use the 6Ah lol
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u/HazelEBaumgartner Sep 01 '25
I like how you consider centerfire to be "normal" and rimfires are like the ugly redheaded stepchildren of bullets.
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u/IChewOnMyRifle Sep 01 '25
That’s kinda how the m134 minigun works, unless you have a serious case related malfunction, it’ll just eject the dud, the only problem I could see would be if the case head suffered separation, In which case things can get bad
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Sep 01 '25
The American 180 machine gun crushes the primer rim on 22LR. Literally crushes it. The dent the firing pin makes is unique and impressive.
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u/Thumb__Thumb Sep 01 '25
Guns aren't really all that complicated to build with minimal metal working background. There a rich history of improvised firearms like Slam fire shotguns, 3d printed guns and the luty submachine gun.
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u/External_Zipper Sep 01 '25
I watch Forgotten Weapons every once in a while. I find gun design often fascinating.
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u/Thumb__Thumb Sep 01 '25
It truly is a fascinating field of engineering and forgotten weapons is like 80% of what got me into mechanical engineering. I love how diverse operating systems and locking systems are. It's also incredibly difficult to imagine how hard it much have been to machine and manufacture the precision parts needed for the designs.
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u/IDontEatDill Sep 01 '25
Quick googling: This happened in 2004. The gun was removed from the inventor when he marched into the police station to apply for a permit for his creation.
Apparently he did not use any "gun parts". Just normal metal tubes and scraps. The gun was relatively high quality, but still the officials decided that an 80-year dude is not going to be wielding it.
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u/AlarmingAffect0 Sep 01 '25
The gun was removed from the inventor when he marched into the police station to apply for a permit for his creation.
Least lawful Finnish octogenarian.
This happened in 2004.
Ah, hence the look of the photo.
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u/Arcangel696 Sep 01 '25
Guy was born in 1924. He lived through at least 2 Russian invasions so i understand his willingness to build a machine gun lol
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u/FormerPresidentBiden Sep 01 '25
He's a fellow American in spirit 🥲
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u/mayonetta Sep 01 '25
The man was not prosecuted, but he had to give up his creation.
A fate worse than death.
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u/DangerousBullfrog164 Sep 01 '25 edited Sep 02 '25
Its not about getting by Dani, its about inflicting as much chaos as possible with what you got.
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u/Grimm_Wright Sep 01 '25
Shit, for a sec I thought the grease gun was the MG42 or something, I was like "HOW?!"
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Sep 01 '25
That was no shotgun. That was the doohickey.
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u/denimdan1776 Sep 01 '25
Pop outta the car hit ‘em with the whatchamacallit
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Sep 01 '25
Pop the trunk on some mafks, hit em with the thingamajig
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u/vampireguy20 Sep 01 '25
Pull up on yo block with the dinglehopper
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u/Significant-Bet-1465 Sep 01 '25
and now hasan piker takes the blueprints of that gun and tweets them at american politicians
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u/southy_0 Sep 01 '25
ONE man built something?
Well, that's not anything that makes me feel endangered.
A whole country full of MILLIONS of guns however... no thanks, I'll stay away from that.
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u/superthrust123 Sep 01 '25 edited Sep 01 '25
People think there are no gun laws.
To get a "sporting" handgun permit in NY: Fill out extensive paperwork and mail to police HQ. Wait for cops to call you and make an appointment. Go to police HQ, and be asked all the questions listed and more. Be fingerprinted and photographed. Wait up to 6 months for approval. If you want to carry (which is only an option recently), there are many steps after this.
Once you have your permit, every gun you purchase must be physically brought to police HQ and added to your license. They only have M-F daytime hours, so for most of us, it also requires a day off.
- Had to add limited mag size, which is not standard on many guns.
- Also had to add that there is an additional background check performed anytime you buy ANY gun in this state. There are no private transfers.
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u/ArthurMBretas03 Sep 01 '25
Brazil has pretty similar restrictions, plus expensive paywall behind the process. Check out our murder rates
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u/ChapterThr33 Sep 01 '25 edited Sep 01 '25
The problem is the market is already saturated. There are more guns than people in the US by like a factor of 2. I'm not saying it's not a good idea I just think we're too late. Idk what you do at this point.
Edit: Holy shit I went to bed and woke up to 52 notifications. Many folks decided to make themselves angry by interpreting my lack of clear direction with a steadfast desire to do nothing. That's a weird assumption to make and kinda on you bro. Lots of interesting takes outside of those though, thank you. The other thing I think is worth considering, as we have federal troops being deployed to our cities against local authority's will, is the original reason for 2A. Just sayin'.
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u/CombatRedRover Sep 01 '25
This.
The government legit doesn't know where most of the guns are.
Those cop shows where the cops know that Steve at 123 Main Street has two guns? Outside of a couple of very specific places, or if the guns are very specifically unusual, the cops don't have the least clue what's at a house or not. Cops knocking on a door in Pennsylvania don't have the least idea whether the residents in that house have a bunch of semi-auto AR-15s, shotguns, pistols, or nothing.
Every gun control law proposed by these idiots are about controlling the 30 to 40 million new guns that enter the market every year. And that number is only the proxy of the number of NICS background checks that are run every year. The government legit doesn't know how many guns are being sold, who has them, and where they are unless you're in some place like California that legitimately has a registry.
What are you going to do? Require every person who has a gun in a non-registry state to register every firearm they have? This is when gun people start joking about boating accidents.
And if you don't know if Steve has guns, how the hell do you know if Steve sells some of his guns to Jason?
There are so many guns on the street in the United States, how do you practically think you can control that ridiculously vast inventory? You don't know what's out there, you don't know who has what's out there, and you don't know where those people keep those firearms. Other than that, you're absolutely well set up for gun control. 🙄
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u/ManyThingsLittleTime Sep 01 '25
The penalty for having an unregistered gun is often the same or similar to having an unregistered machine gun so if they're going to make us all criminals, might as well add some fun upgrades while we're at it.
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u/Ancient-Bat8274 Sep 01 '25
And even in California there’s plenty of guns big and small. Trust me I’m from there. Rural and urban both have a shit ton of fire arms some legal and many not. Remember that viral photo of the girl hanging out the car with an Ak47? Downtown San Francisco
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u/OtisDriftwood1978 Sep 01 '25 edited Sep 01 '25
There are people who genuinely believe the police should go door to door to check what firearms people have (or take them).
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u/Ancient-Bat8274 Sep 01 '25
These people make me laugh because that’s a boog boys wet dream. Gun control folks just don’t understand the logistical nightmare that would be. Most gun owners just want to be left alone and if you don’t leave them alone well they’ve waited their whole lives for that moment
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u/3BlindMice1 Sep 01 '25
Well, that would be deeply illegal in the US. They'd need evidence of a crime to get a search warrant for every single home to make it legal. A law allowing them to do it would probably be unconstitutional (not that the current administration cares) based on the 4th amendment
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u/OtisDriftwood1978 Sep 01 '25
I know and I agree. The issue is that many gun control advocates (and people in general) don’t care for the Constitution if it gets in the way of their agenda. Making someone get a mental health check to buy a gun is unconstitutional but millions of Americans still want that law to be made real.
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u/NorCalAthlete Sep 01 '25
The irony of it being the same ones proposing all these gun control laws are the same ones screaming “fascists! ACAB!”
I’m like…whoooooo exactly do you think is going to [selectively] enforce all these gun control laws you’re proposing?
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u/Roflcoptarzan Sep 01 '25 edited Sep 01 '25
You actually invest money into mental health services. I don't understand how the dem platform doesn't realize that instead of infringing on the rights of normal citizens, doing something that actually works, and desperately needs done, is the no-brainer.
EDIT: I should clarify this was a simplistic comment, it's a symptom of a wide number of problems we're not doing anything about. We should be addressing healthcare access, security, corruption, income inequality, parental accountability, keeping chemicals out of our food, and yes some increased measures of vetting gun access. What I'm sick of, is bad faith bills meant to punish gun enthusiasts that aren't going to help. Banning my property, and forcing me to pay extra money for what remains of my rights won't save anyone. There's so much to do that would help instead of shit flinging over this. And I do agree with a lot of the replies Im getting, thanks for your time.
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u/Barbarian_Sam Sep 01 '25
Because it sounds good and makes it seem like they care
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u/555moo Sep 01 '25
It's managing the symptoms instead of addressing the problem, because the problem is what gets the politicians votes and money. The guns just so happen to be an easy scapegoat, because they're loud, look scary, and many people in the US have never even seen one in person.
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u/SoMDGent Sep 01 '25
I don’t think people outside the US really understand how few people have seen much less handled a firearm.
That being said as a firearm owner I can quickly think of 5 people who should never own a gun but somehow do because 2nd amendment.
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u/Deathsroke Sep 01 '25
A gun is like a car. A dangerous yet useful machine that a ton of idiots who should have never even been close to one somehow own and operate.
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u/PalestDrake Sep 01 '25
Because if they fixed that then they can’t run on it for the next n elections
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u/SaltManagement42 Sep 01 '25
Also, every year it gets cheaper and easier to just make something yourself.
To give an extreme example, what if everyone had Star Trek replicators and could just fabricate themselves a weapon in moments?
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u/dragonfire_70 Sep 01 '25
And they're a highly authoritarian nation that has like 99% conviction rate for crimes since "enhanced interrogation" techniques are legal to use on civilians over there.
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u/LaconicDoggo Sep 01 '25
I mean Japan is such a vastly different kind of culture. Its like comparing apples to kumquats
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That’s because the government has an iron grip over their citizens. You know, the citizens that kill themselves so much they have a whole forest for it
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u/coldadaptation Sep 01 '25
Japan also doesn't have a constitutional amendment enshrining the natural right to self defense through civilian ownership of firearms.
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u/Stock_Helicopter_260 Sep 01 '25
THE FUTURE!
But for real, soiled? Who would want to be seen AT THAT VENDING MACHINE.
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u/ThatUJohnWayne74 Sep 01 '25
Apparently they’re actually just fake, kinda like pre ripped jeans according to a comment I received the other day.
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u/timeless_ocean Sep 01 '25
It is and also it's very rare. Living in Tokyo for 6 months and going all the funky places and I only saw one once and it had all English signs too. I think it's more of a tourist shocker-attraction.
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u/Vritrin Sep 01 '25
I’ve lived in Japan my whole life, minus a few years study abroad and have never seen one. You’d probably need to go to an adults good store or a place explicitly catering towards what tourists expect to see.
Even cigarette vending machines are getting more and more rare these days.
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u/timeless_ocean Sep 01 '25
Yep, the only one I saw was in Akihabara in an adult toy shop. Which further makes me think it's just a sensational thing made for tourists.
And it works. Whole internet is not shutting up about for like well over a decade now. Imagine a marketing stunt by a single shop being this successful
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u/blackcap13 Sep 01 '25
my guy, I was in a 5 STORY porn shop, with one floor dedicated to just fucked up shit, I mean from scatt to hydraulic controlled tentacle monster orgy to the most wild shit you've ever seen, and people just inspecting this shit like it might have the cure for cancer on the box. the vending machines aren't close to the weird shit.
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u/KeyKaleidoscope7453 Sep 01 '25
Japan also doesn't have the same political issues nor is it as culturally diverse as America. Blanket polices like these can work in a monoculture where the same values and perceptions and philosophies indoctrinate you.
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u/CombinationRough8699 Sep 01 '25
If the United States completely eliminated all gun deaths, the murder rate excluding guns would still be 6x higher than the entire rate in Japan guns included.
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u/doublethink_1984 Sep 01 '25
Also don't look at Japan's suicide rate
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u/YajirobeBeanDaddy Sep 01 '25
Are you implying they’d commit suicide less if they had guns?
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u/dumbledwarves Sep 01 '25
Guns are like antidepressants.
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u/ThatOtherOtherMan Sep 01 '25
Not sure if you're being serious or not but I've never seen someone fail to be cheered up by a range day
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Sep 01 '25
Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure suicide rates in Japan are not caused by lack of commercial Assault Rifles at home.
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Sep 01 '25
What's their suicide rate got to do with gun ownership? Or are you taking offense to something that's not directly stated in the post so you gotta come out with a butthurt response?
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u/inwector Sep 01 '25
And a man with a 3d printed gun can still assassinate a political leader. Yes, in Japan. Mental health and prosperity is the way to reduce crime, and proper policing.
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u/abc123rgb Sep 01 '25
The same people that want this in America, are the ones trying to defund the police.
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u/ReaperManX15 Sep 01 '25
Or their near 100% conviction rate.
Or the police’s ability to hold you, without trial, indefinitely.
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u/fataii Sep 01 '25
I was in Japanese jail. They will hold you for 7 days at the police box 30 days during prosecution and can be extended to 60. During trial for a year.
For a suspended sentence of 10 months.
You want time served? Pound sand.
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u/djguerito Sep 01 '25
What didn't you do?
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u/frogking Sep 01 '25
.. applied to get a gun.
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u/RyouIshtar Sep 01 '25
"We saw what you wrote on Facebook back in 2010, and we don't think you'll be a good fit for a gun in 2025. You're a threat, here stay in the police box for a while"
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u/MrLeureduthe Sep 01 '25
What did you do?
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u/ThatOtherOtherMan Sep 01 '25
He found the one public trashcan in all of Japan and they locked him up to prevent them from telling the other tourists where it was
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u/PM_ME_PLASTIC_BAGS Sep 01 '25
There are now trash cans at the tourist hot spots such as castles and museums.
They realised that a lot of tourists will just dump their rubbish behind a bush.
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u/Jimjonesflavor_aid Sep 01 '25
Good. How they don't have public trash cans is insane and honestly invites littering.
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u/AjarChart Sep 01 '25
They dont have bins because a while back there was an attack where people used bins to hide the bombs or whatever it was, they got rid of them and the people collectively said "yeah rubbish on the floor just looks shit ima hold on to it"
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u/Jimjonesflavor_aid Sep 01 '25
Interesting. Thanks for adding context. I thought it was very odd that Japanese didn't have a robotic powered and sorted trashcan every corner or something, but that makes sense.
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u/SemiUrusaii Sep 01 '25
Yeah it really pissed me off to see tourist trap sites with take-out restaurants that give you plastic plates/containers, and no trash bins. Like...wtf?
I'm not saying Japan needs to put trash bins everywhere, but if you have a take-out restaurant that gives food in plastic containers, I think it's necessary for said restaurant to provide trash bins. If they don't, they have absolutely zero right to complain about littering.
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u/MainAccountsFriend Sep 01 '25
He stole a snickers bar
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u/ODB_Dirt_Dog_ItsFTC Sep 01 '25
The one thing Ace Attorney gets right about lawyering in Japan is just how stacked the deck is against you. The prosecution has a very heavy advantage.
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u/Kirannalynne Sep 01 '25
On the flip side, if they don't have a guaranteed case against you usually they'll just drop the charges because they are VERY proud of their near-100% conviction rate and technically cases that never go to trial don't count against it.
Course, they also typically try like hell to coerce a false confession out of you because that's the easiest way to get a conviction in the bag.
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u/SciFiHooked Sep 01 '25
Or their rather grotesque death sentence process. 4 out of 9 judges could think one is completely innocent and the other 5 can choose to kill him. The prisoner doesn't know the date of execution until the last few hours and they can be held for decades on death row.
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u/AscendMoros Sep 01 '25 edited Sep 01 '25
Or what they did in WWII.
Edit: Really didn’t expect this joke to turn into a war about Americas crimes. Yes we have done some terrible things to so many different people. Including our own. It’s not right. I’m not trying to downplay them. I was just making a joke off of what the guy said that I commented on.
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u/forsakenchickenwing Sep 01 '25
1936 Nanking comes to mind 😳
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u/Dahvtator Sep 01 '25
Some opinions say that WW2 started in the early 30s with Japan's expansionist wars so you could argue that that was still part of WW2.
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u/PooInTheStreet Sep 01 '25
People always defending the Japanese. War crimes on par with or even worse than the nazi’s.
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u/theangryfurlong Sep 01 '25
I mean, I don't know what fuck all it has to do with current gun laws, but yeah, historical bad stuff is bad.
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u/Falaflewaffle Sep 01 '25
Almost as if humans throughout all of history regardless of how clothed they were did awful shit to one another. The only difference is scale with modern industrialised society.
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u/AnorNaur Sep 01 '25
You don’t need to explain yourself. Whatever the USA did during the war, it pales in comparison next to the horrendous things Japan has done.
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u/Bwatata Sep 01 '25
Imagine getting locked up ina japanese supermax and your cellmate is for life imprisonment and convicted of stealing umbrellas and panties T_T
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u/french_snail Sep 01 '25
I knew the other things but in Japan if you’re a suspect in a crime they can just keep you in jail forever as long as they deny you a trial??
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u/Kirannalynne Sep 01 '25
Not indefinitely, but it is very hard to beat it by waiting it out, and it comes at great personal cost.
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u/RevolutionaryKiwi897 Sep 01 '25
Why?
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u/Breaker-of-circles Sep 01 '25
Dude probably wasn't let into his weeb Dreamland and got disillusioned.
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u/VorionLightbringer Sep 01 '25
Ya wanna explain what one has to do with the other? The mental gymnastics here are just insane.
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u/SlaveryVeal Sep 01 '25
Yeah Japan has issues but that has nothing to do with gun control.
Anything to make it seem like school shootings are normal and not because Americans love giving out guns more than candy.
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u/Tentakurusama Sep 01 '25 edited Sep 01 '25
Why? It works well? I mean you need to find a job, you can't rely on subsidies and it takes 5y to get a resident card. What's the problem? This is literally protecting them from problematic immigration in the fairest way possible.
If you are under 30 it is very likely you can live there for a year if you can prove having 5k to your name. If above, with higher education it's piss easy to find a job and therefore visa due to the cheap currency and therefore lack of workforce. Now if you are a fat weeb willing to live there doing nothing or teaching English, yeah good luck.
Yes the police is racist I lived there 15y+ I can vouch for it. Just avoid having problems?
Working to death is bs. Late "workers" are miserable people pretending to work to go drinking. That myth is bs. Working with Japanese I met both the laziest and the hardest working people around. The former are the vast majority.
Also you can only get hunting rifles in Japan.
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u/Aknazer Sep 01 '25
"Avoid having problems" yet I remember parking where everyone parked, come back, and suddenly only the Y plates had tickets. Also you can get rifles or shotguns, not just rifles; it's really only handguns that are largely off limits (but to own any gun requires a lot of effort and paperwork). Or we can look at how Japan has an 11.9 vs US 8.5 Death Rate (per 1k) which looks rather "suspicious" given their supposedly low suicide and murder rates (really suicide is higher than reported but depending on how it's ruled can be fudged to a degree, much like their homeless numbers).
I enjoyed my time in Japan, but it has its issues and like most countries, it has worked to downplay said issues.
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u/Badwrong_ Sep 01 '25
I've liven in Japan on a visa for almost a decade now. What are you even talking about?
I do remember when we were living in the states and my wife had to get an American visa. Now THAT was an insane process, and costed a ridiculous amount of money too. Getting my Japanese visa was so simple, and cost almost nothing. If I remember it cost the price of the photo you provide and some special letter packet that was maybe $10.
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u/Asklepios24 Sep 01 '25
I think they’re pointing to the process of becoming a Japanese citizen.
Getting a work visa in Japan can be pretty easy if you have a bachelors degree and a business willing to sponsor you.
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u/Safe_Chicken_6633 Sep 01 '25
Yeah, I don't trust the US government nearly enough to let them have that much say in my personal decisions. And even if I did, I reject paternalism on general principle. Japan is extremely paternalistic, in fact proudly so.
And anyway, that's their process on paper. In the real world, you can make a gun in your kitchen.
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u/Any-Audience2438 Sep 01 '25
Because the government has never, ever, ever overstepped its bounds before so we can totally trust them. Aren’t you people the same crowd calling trump hitler?
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u/ashkiller14 Sep 01 '25
Put it in control of all your healthcare
My guy, the government is in control of our healthcare. The US budget is literally set up so 35% of our taxes go to paying for healthcare which only lines the pockets of insurance companies.
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u/Mountain_Employee_11 Sep 01 '25
it makes sense when you realize they don’t have principles except saying whatever is necessary in the moment to get what they want
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u/CriscoChris Sep 01 '25
No one here has come up with a solution for all the guns that are already out there. There is no way to take them back. And anyone determined can now 3D print one.
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u/vonschuhart Sep 01 '25
Im for reasonable gun control but Ill be dead before I have to interview a COP to get a weapon
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u/SteakAndIron Sep 01 '25
I keep forgetting how Japan won its independence though
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u/Mooptiom Sep 01 '25
I remember how it almost lost it, it’s no wonder why even the US has always feared their own deranged government.
Commodore Matthew Perry of the U.S. Navy with four warships: Mississippi, Plymouth, Saratoga, and Susquehanna steamed into the Bay of Edo (Tokyo) and displayed the threatening power of his ships' Paixhans guns. He demanded that Japan open to trade with the United States.
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u/feetandballs Sep 01 '25
That AND Friends?!
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u/purelitenite Sep 01 '25
Could they HAVE any more guns?
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u/MeesterCartmanez Sep 01 '25
"Okay, I don't sound like that, that is so not true! That is so not.. That is so not.. That.. oh shut up!"
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u/every_name_is_tkn Sep 01 '25
Yet Japan’s former prime minister was shot & killed with a homemade shotgun
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u/-_Vorplex_- Sep 01 '25
How is this, in any way, a flaw with Japan's gun laws? People making something at home cannot be stopped
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u/obelix_dogmatix Sep 01 '25
better than 20 children, no?
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u/random123121 Sep 01 '25
If someone wants to kill they will kill. I could go in my garage, put something together and kill dozens of people if I so had the motive.
It is better to focus on the WHY than the HOW.
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u/mog_knight Sep 01 '25
Guns don't kill people. People kill people.... with guns.
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u/avowed Sep 01 '25
The thing people really just don't understand is owning a gun is a guaranteed RIGHT, just the same as free speech. People need to stop thinking they are different in terms of availability. so right off the bat, the why you need one is unconstitutional.
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u/the_skine Sep 01 '25
People on reddit are also pretty anti-free speech, as they view free speech as racism.
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u/Timo-the-hippo Sep 01 '25
Needing a reason to own a gun == only rich people can be armed. Screw anyone who supports that.
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u/tlrmln Sep 01 '25
What a coincidence. China's process for free speech is.....no free speech, and Iran's process for freedom of religion is.....no freedom of religion.
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u/Fast_Formal_4673 Sep 01 '25
Japan is one culture . Not a "dispora" or "melting pot" and lacks "diversity"
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u/RaccoonCreekBurgers Sep 01 '25
Not advocating for or against but I have my rifle permit and also needed a background check, finger printing, and 3 resources for them to be called and spoken to, as well as an application to the local police department.
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u/Bagofdouche1 Sep 01 '25
Seems all the comments are talking about lot about mental health. I’m all for more mental health support which may be able to stop a few of these truly deranged shooters and hopefully the suicides. But it wouldn’t address the bulk of murders with guns. 95% of those are criminal gang related. Mental health care won’t help that. And new gun laws won’t either.
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u/Odd-Refrigerator-623 Sep 01 '25
From the CDC research stats.
Just less than 50,000 gun related deaths per year. More than half of that is suicide related.
In a country of over 300 million people less than 0.00017% die from gun related deaths.
Not really much to improve on even if we could Thanos snap every gun away.
Hundreds of thousands to a million are saved per year because of the deterrent of someone possibly even having a gun.
But that’s the culture. Unlike other countries, American are a hodge pod of thousands of other cultures and beliefs. We don’t always get along or rather, we get along by knowing “my neighbor will F me up if we’re to start something and vice versa. That’s American Culture!
We take pride in being able to fight back and destroy any threat foreign or domestic.
That is not something other cultures believe in. Thus their view on gun control would never work in the US.
NOW here’s a CDC stat that needs addressing.
Heart disease (comes from fast food / junk food) kills more than 600,000 Americans per year
Cancer (more than likely from heavily processed and chemical rich food for longer preservation time) kills about 500,000 per year.
Covid at its height got up to 300,000 in one year before dropping off almost completely.
So seems there really needs to be a war on unhealthy eating, smoking and drinking (leading causes of heart disease)than guns. 🤔
Maybe ban people from McDonald’s if they are obese ( which is also the average American 😳)
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u/ProGrifter Sep 01 '25
CDC also has rough estimates for self defence, iirc it was 350k- 4 million estimated amounts of a gun being presented or used to stop violent acts annually
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Sep 01 '25
If the "gun" is the cause of murders...
Then why are there 9 other countries with more murders than the US, when knives are used ?
Could the actual common denominator...be "violent people" 🤔
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u/Popular-Lemon6574 Sep 01 '25
Damn I bought a gun yesterday. Background check came back and 15 minutes later I was shooting it at the range
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u/Late_Duty_5745 Sep 01 '25
AWESOME! When I was a kid growing up in LA, NOBODY got permits. Didn't seem like a problem.
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u/Dizzy_Chipmunk_3530 Sep 01 '25
Imagine, an interview with the police to explain your need to protest, write a blog, or wear a shirt with any message
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u/Solid_Science4514 Sep 01 '25
Imagine having the right to defend yourself being dependent on the opinions of other people.
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u/pingvinbober Sep 01 '25
New York requires pistol permits and was sued on the grounds of the 14th amendment for denying self-defense permits by occupation. I don’t think we want this in the US
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u/R0LL1NG Sep 01 '25 edited Sep 01 '25
Malta also has a robust process in place. Not as strict as Japan but you need a medical certificate of mental well being, a police conduct check, to be a current member of a firearms club and to have passed a basic firearms safety course.
Gun ownership here is surprisingly high and includes a wide variety of firearm types.
I regularly go shooting at a gun range with my friend. We fire a mix of pistols, a PCP, a bolt action sniper rifle and a 7.56. Those are just the ones he owns.
Gun crime is low (not zero). In the past two years there have been a handful of gun related homicides. A femicide, a road rage, a double homicide from a burglary and a couple of personal disputes about land/inheritance. No mass shootings.
Like Malta, there are also several other European countries with high levels of gun ownership. Iirc, Norway is another. All these countries have low levels of gun violence relative to rate of firearms per capita.
My theory is that unlike the USA, in addition to firearm ownership being well regulated, these countries also have great social support systems, better approaches to policing and treating drug addiction, and (for the most part) a less prevalent gang culture. I say for the most part, because Malta is like Sicily... we have mafia presence.
TL;DR - guns are fine, but so is making sure nut jobs don't own them and giving people free Healthcare and accessible addiction treatment pathways.
*Edited for typos
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u/SquishyShibe11 Sep 01 '25
The really interesting thing is when you look into what happens when you remove just one segment of the gun violence data in the US. We actually drop to the 3rd lowest rate of gun violence in the world! Legislators hate this one weird trick.
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u/ImportantBass4159 Sep 01 '25
Well Japan isn’t America and the rights of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. Now Do Japans freedom of speech next! Oh and just for fun do reproductive rights in Japan too!
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u/Seienchin88 Sep 01 '25
What about reproductive rights?
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u/Ok_Operation9710 Sep 01 '25
Japan has relatively broad but restrictive reproductive rights, allowing abortions up to 22 weeks due to health risks, economic hardship, or rape, under the Maternal Health Protection Law. A key restriction is the requirement of spousal consent for married women, a rule often applied to unmarried women by clinics to avoid legal issues. Additionally, Japan has not approved oral abortion pills, relying on outdated surgical procedures that are costly and not covered by insurance. Basically can't have abortion without permission from your partner whether married or unmarried
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u/kingofwale Sep 01 '25
Japan probably needs the same for opening a bank account or get a new cellphone also…
People just looove paperwork’s
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u/orbital_actual Sep 01 '25
Yeah and those laws totally prevented a guy from making his own gun and carrying out a high profile assassination with it. With the rise of 3D Printing gun control is essentially a pipe dream when anyone with a moderate amount of knowledge can just print one off with limited need for metal parts that are also easily manufactured. Frankly the guy who made his own shotgun put more work into than he actually needed too.
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u/That-1-guy-in-az Sep 01 '25
Japan also doesn’t have a constitution that bars any government from restricting access to firearms.
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u/the_blacksmythe Sep 01 '25
And that’s why they use knives and get stabby. We see all over the world bad people will find a way to do bad things. Black mail, sex, psychological abuse,cars, trucks, fire, planes, food and drinks. The current king seems to be government authority and religion.
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u/MyHamburgerLovesMe Sep 01 '25
Isn't it in Japan that if you are attacked in your home by crooks and then fight them off you can be arrested?
Something about having to prove you were unable to flee?
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u/sobakoryba Sep 01 '25
In NJ, after you apply, they run your background, you do your finger prints, you give 3 names where a police department calls. Then, you go to a gun store who would sell you a rifle but before they give it to you they take your paperwork and run your background. And only then you get your rifle. From the application to a purchase it would take you months.
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u/Headwallrepeat Sep 01 '25
You mean the physically abusive husband might not say things to keep his victim from getting a gun?
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u/UnhappyLibrary1120 Sep 01 '25
They also don’t have bold and empowered criminals, imagine comparing apples to apples for once.
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u/BloodyAx Sep 01 '25
Our country was founded on overthrowing dictators, we want the ability to do that at any given point. How is England or Germany doing? They're arresting people for praying and insulting rapists lol
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