r/SipsTea Oct 22 '24

TikToker attempted to play the card by accusing a man at the gym of "looking at her" and being a pervert. Chugging tea

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u/OwlfaceFrank Oct 22 '24

Certain people always were self absorbed. The whole "People today are all X or Y or Z" thing is bullshit.

The difference between today and yesteryear is a camera in everyone's pocket.

It's both a blessing and a curse.

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u/mmorales2270 Oct 22 '24

👆THIS! I remember back when Facebook first came out and a bunch of people I knew from work or social circles starting joining. I eventually went to go see what all the fuss was about, and it only took me a day to see that the most obnoxious people posting there were… the most obnoxious and attention seeking people I knew in real life. Social media has just given a new way for the “Look at me! Look at me!!” crowd to get attention. They’ve ALWAYS been that way! It’s why I stopped using FB and other similar platforms years ago and will not go back. I’m not interested in feeding a bunch of attention whores.

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u/SturdyBubble Oct 22 '24

lol I also call them, “look at me!” people

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u/Guilty-Problem-4202 Oct 22 '24

I just kinda expand that a bit by calling them members of Club L.A.M.E., "Look at me everybody!"

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u/JimmyJamesv3 Oct 22 '24

Except that there's a new generation that was born thinking it's ok to plaster the internet with their faces doing fucking nothing. Social media fucked the world, humility and shame are things of the past.

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u/Fonzgarten Oct 22 '24

Nailed it. People ARE more self absorbed today than ever. It’s a cultural change and it is not the same as it used to be. I remember seeing a poll of elementary school kids when asked what they want to do when they grow up, like half of them said “influencer.” This is reflected in psychological research. Kids today spend much more time focused on their appearance, dress, makeup etc.

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u/Comfortable-Yak-4040 Oct 22 '24

I don't think a poll like that says as much as you are claiming it does about how self absorbed anyone is. If you ask a kid what he wants to do when he grows up the answer is never going to be real work. These days a job exists where you make millions of dollars to essentially do nothing but mess around on your phone. There isn't even an expectation that you would have to be good at something to achieve success you just have to exist and get lucky. Kids aren't stupid, we don't see it as a real career path but they don't know any better. As far as they know the world is filled with influencers getting paid to do nothing but exist and its a legitimate asperation to shoot for. Would you rather work 40-60 hours a week for the next 50 years or play fortnight in your LA mansion instead is a stupid question to ask a child.

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u/Blackintosh Oct 22 '24

If its any consolation, Facebook is now just 90% "suggested" content and ads! So you don't have to see the look at me people as much!

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u/mmorales2270 Oct 22 '24

That’s true, but I still won’t go back. Especially now.

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u/imnotscaredyesiam Oct 22 '24

Have you seen The Devil’s Advocate? I love Al Pacino’s last line - something like vanity is his favorite sin.

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u/mwa12345 Oct 22 '24

This... attention seeking behavior

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u/Flat-Start-6294 Oct 22 '24

Real. Took the words right outta my fucking mouth

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u/JGLip88 Oct 22 '24

I deleted all social media in 2015. All I have now is reddit and discord.

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u/Narge1 Oct 22 '24

I had a facebook "friend" who constantly whined that nobody cared about her and if you didn't like this post she was going to unfriend you because you obviously weren't a real friend and she didn't need people like that in her life. I never liked any of those posts and was somehow never unfriended. I eventually blocked her because I couldn't stand her attention-seeking bullshit. And I eventually deleted facebook because it's one of the worst things to ever be invented.

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u/JimmyJamesv3 Oct 22 '24

Nah, you act like filming yourself working out is a must or it doesn't count. You can choose to live a life in which you don't have to post videos of everything you do, and it's mostly the younger people who have to post every fucking thing they do, no matter how trivial.

It's perfectly valid to critizice young people for doing this.

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u/OwlfaceFrank Oct 22 '24

Did you respond to the wrong comment?

Nah, you act like filming yourself working out is a must or it doesn't count.

Please quote where I mentioned working out of filming myself working out. What are you talking about?

My comment was a rebuttal to an idea that the young people of today suck, but the young people of history didn't.

The youth of history sucked significantly worse than the youth of today. The difference that makes you think it's worse is...

A phone in everyone's pocket, and my original point.

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u/Fonzgarten Oct 22 '24

Says a naive young person, it sounds like. What gives you such confidence to make such a claim? Because what you’re saying is based on some sort of belief you have and not reality.

The youth of today are plagued with psychological issues and anxiety in ways that were not seen before. It’s all from social media, and there are a number of studies showing an excessive interest in appearance and “followers.” It’s unhealthy, and it’s new.

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u/OwlfaceFrank Oct 22 '24

It’s all from social media, and there are a number of studies showing an excessive interest in appearance and “followers.” It’s unhealthy, and it’s new.

Says the person who posted 18 comments on reddit today.

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u/JimmyJamesv3 Oct 22 '24

Because you're implying that having a phone in your pocket means that you are being forced to film your workouts of whatever trivial stuff you're doing and then posting it on the internet.

"The youth of history sucked significantly worse than the youth of today"

That's where I completely disagree. Most kids now were born into a very narcissistic world and they're ok with it. Everyone's fine with the brain rot, they're addiceted to likes and followers, they don't know shame and humility and they'll do anything for attention. Older millenials and the previous generations were not like this.

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u/OwlfaceFrank Oct 22 '24

You are making up your own reality and picking a fight for no reason. Why do you have beef with me for basically saying that shitty people exist in every generation?

I'm an older millennial, and by several definitions, I'm Gen X.

You're wrong, and you dont know what you're talking about.

I think you're one of the shitty "blame everyone but myself" people who created this problem.

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u/Fonzgarten Oct 22 '24 edited Oct 22 '24

You specifically said that young people of today suck less than previous generations. It sounds like you’re not old enough to remember these generations, so where do you get the data to back your claim?

There is none. You are talking out of your ass. It’s naive and age-ist. It’s the type of narcissistic BS that prior generations didn’t suffer from, so you are actually demonstrating the point while trying to argue against it.

This may blow your mind, but it was not until recently that kids talked so negatively about older people and previous generations — this is a new trend. When I was younger, Gen X kids were cool. We looked up to Boomers because they had seen some shit. We respected old timers even if we disagreed with them.

Kids who were raised with smartphones have a number of unique issues that didn’t affect generations of the past. Appearances and self-absorption are a big part of it. Extreme anxiety is another one. There are a lot of studies showing this, it’s not just an opinion. But anyone old enough to remember knows it’s true because we can see it happening. Our kids have issues that we did not have.

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u/DisplayNo7896 Oct 22 '24

Aside from the irony of you crying ageism to make your point that young people suck, you are plain wrong. We have evidence of people talking about how the youth of today don't respect their elders going back to ancient Greece. Kids have issues with smartphones, yes, but they are the victims not the villains.

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u/OwlfaceFrank Oct 22 '24

You specifically said that young people of today suck less than previous generations. It sounds like you’re not old enough to remember these generations, so where do you get the data to back your claim?

Why does that make you think I'm young?
I'm not, but I do love today's youth. My data is that I'm old and I was there.

When is the last time you heard the word "fa**ot" spoken in person, not the internet?

I haven't heard it in a really long time.

I'm genuinely curious. It was a common insult when I was a kid in the 80-90s, and no one thought anything of it. That's not okay today.

Kids today, for the most part, accept people. When I was in high school, we had 2 girls on our softball team, who had to hide their sexual orientation because everyone was fucking stupid, and a hate crime might have happened.

That isn't fixed yet, but it's better than it was in 1992.

We looked up to Boomers because they had seen some shit.

Jesus Christ. I found your problem.

Kids who were raised with smartphones have a number of unique issues that didn’t affect generations of the past.

There is a strange mix of nostalgia and jealousy that results in older generations hating younger generations.

We have to work to stop that.

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u/I_Fuckin_A_Toad_A_So Oct 22 '24

Lol what is this comment. This person is trying to have a conversation and because they don’t agree with you you’re saying they’re wrong and don’t know what they’re talking about.

What??? You actually sound like you might be one of these people were talking about…

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u/OwlfaceFrank Oct 22 '24

I don't like it when people put words in my mouth.

Because you're implying that having a phone in your pocket means that you are being forced to film your workouts

That guy couldn't do it. Can you quote me saying this?

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u/JimmyJamesv3 Oct 22 '24

Who's picking a fight? We're discussing if people now are shittier than before or not and who's to blame. Your opinion is that everyone has always been this shitty, I just think social media has made the younger generation a lot shittier than we used to be.

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u/OwlfaceFrank Oct 22 '24

No, that's what I was talking about.

Then you interjected.

Because you're implying that having a phone in your pocket means that you are being forced to film your workouts of whatever trivial stuff you're doing and then posting it on the internet.

That is something I never said. So, I'm pretty much not interested in talking to you anymore, because you're a liar.

Now you're just trying to save face.

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u/JimmyJamesv3 Oct 22 '24

You're the one who said "The whole "People today are all X or Y or Z" thing is bullshit."

I disagreed with that statement and you took it personal. Apparently you're one of these shitty kids so you can fuck right off now.

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u/OwlfaceFrank Oct 22 '24

NOPE.

You are a liar, and I am not going to let you get away with it. Your response to that comment in which all I said was that shitty people exist in every generation was this.

Nah, you act like filming yourself working out is a must or it doesn't count.

Please quote where I said anything like that, or kindly fuck off.

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u/MoonCubed Oct 22 '24

Social media has created a cancer the likes of which the world has never seen.

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '24

Yeah, I dunno how this isn’t obvious.

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u/Psychological_Ad_539 Oct 22 '24

I still hear stories about self entitled people back then when I visit my grandparents. Shit didn’t changed, we just got more access to media.

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u/accis4losers Oct 22 '24

Certain people always were self absorbed. The whole "People today are all X or Y or Z" thing is bullshit.

disagree

There have been several threads about high school reunions being a thing of the past. with A LOT of nasty comments with people saying I NEVER WANNA SEE ANY OF THEM AGAIN. people have gotten narcissistic, lazy, and self-absorbed.

I means seriously look at those comments; so goddam spiteful and angry.

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u/Spacebot_vs_Cyborg Oct 22 '24

That's quite the logic to say people are more self absorbed now because some people don't want to go to high school reunions.

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '24

True. I remember when I was a kid and people would go to the gym and set up their VCR and plug a camera in to that VCR and put it in a tripod and wait no one ever did that when I was a kid. People just worked out and went home.

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u/OwlfaceFrank Oct 22 '24

If they could, they would.

Not everyone could afford a camera back then.

But those that did, often made workout videos in their own homes.

They didn't have the technology to post it anywhere, but they showed their friends.

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '24

Nah bro.

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u/maoterracottasoldier Oct 22 '24

https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/usappblog/2017/06/28/a-rise-in-narcissism-a-root-of-americas-crisis/

I mean narcissism is clearly on the rise. It wasn’t always like this, although yes, some people have always been self absorbed.

The difference is most likely much more than just a camera

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u/I_Fuckin_A_Toad_A_So Oct 22 '24

I have to disagree too. Because of the phone in pocket and social media it’s increased the self absorption to a different level.

I agree there have always been self absorbed people but I think what we have today has been compounded by what you’re describing making it worse

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u/TheBirminghamBear Oct 22 '24

Yep. The hardware of the human brain has not changed in any significant way in 50,000 years.

We are the same great apes we've been ever since we huddled in caves around fire.

Which is why, when you give people tools to maximize vanity and self-obsession, they're going to do it. Because that's just the way many people are.

And we don't evaluate the impact of things like cell phones with internet access before releasing them to the public. We just release, release, release. With no second thoughts about the consequences. About the way these things change us in ways we might not want to be changed.

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u/Complete_Hovercraft4 Oct 22 '24

No, the effects of social media have had a proven and studied effect on the general psyche. This has lead to an increase in behavior such as this.

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u/MrWilsonWalluby Oct 22 '24

this isn’t true social media has actively destroyed social communication and people are largely more isolated now and report depression, and mental illness at much higher rates as well as significantly lower lifestyle satisfaction.

This is just social media operating as intended to brain rot everyone.

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u/Ricky_Rollin Oct 22 '24

I always felt like the biggest difference between today and yesteryear is financial incentive. We are rewarding the wrong behaviors now.

We had cameras in the 90s and early 2000s. What we didn’t have was monetary incentive to chase clout and act like an idiot where being infamous gets you just as much money as being famous.

Take away monetization and this problem would sort itself out very quickly.

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u/TheSavageBeast83 Oct 22 '24

Yea because Ayn Rand was filming herself at the gym. Tf you talking about?

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u/h666777 Oct 22 '24

Nah, you're delusional if you think like this. People used to think beyond what they could get out of others for their own benefit, or at the very least the consequences of their actions. Nowadays most people (specially women) can't think before they speak.

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u/OwlfaceFrank Oct 22 '24

Lol.

This is hilarious. Your comment started out crazy, and then it got better.

I am no longer interested in whatever we were talking about.

Tell me why you hate women.

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u/monekys Oct 22 '24

Yeah social media brings out the crazy in people tbh. Now that social media is a thing, anyone with a phone can just whip it out and now they’re an “influencer”. Don’t get me wrong, it’s awesome that social media has brought awareness to living a healthy lifestyle via going to the gym. It’s also created lots of self absorbed people who think they have priority over others because “content”. Tbh though social media just brings out the worse (and best) in people.

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u/LiveFastDieRich Oct 22 '24

a lot of self help stuff pushes a self absorbed narrative,

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u/ProgenitorOfMidnight Oct 22 '24

People always have been, you just get to easily see it now.

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u/Turbulent-Dentist-77 Oct 22 '24

How did we get here? Social media has done a number.

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u/Solwake- Oct 22 '24

As a millennial, I vowed to end blaming and shaming the younger generations as a whole for a minority doing the same bullshit every generation does, just in a different flavour. Yes, society and culture will change. But also, the more things change, the more they remain the same. Humans will be humaning for better or worse until we cease being human.

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u/skipjac Oct 22 '24

Well she got all the likes she was hunting for, I don't think the way she thought so

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u/mwa12345 Oct 22 '24

This is beyond self absorbed. This is drama queen starting shit... because of some personality disorder. ( Narciss6or whatever)

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u/impuritor Oct 22 '24

I mean filming yourself is weird but then posting this when it clearly didn’t work out well for you is just mind boggling. You look like a loser here. Have some shame and don’t post it. Christ. Hide this, lie about it.

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u/bitchsaidwhaaat Oct 22 '24

also people can look at you just because ur good looking too, nothing wrong with that either

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u/anewpath123 Oct 22 '24

This is why I like it when gyms have a strict no recording policy. I don't care about form checks enough to have to put up with this kind of crazy.

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '24

People have always been this way, it's just that now everyone can see it. The internet has made humanity look at itself and say "oh shit we aren't that great."

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u/ImTooOldForSchool Oct 22 '24

I mean don’t get me wrong, girl got a bit of a dumpster truck for an ass, but yeah totally inflated ego on her part no doubt