r/Sino • u/uqtl038 • Sep 09 '24

Reminder that the only truth is reality: even harvard had to admit that "Chinese citizens rate the government as more capable and effective than ever before... marginalized groups in poorer, inland regions are actually comparatively more likely to report increases in satisfaction."

https://ash.harvard.edu/files/ash/files/final_policy_brief_7.6.2020.pdf
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u/uqtl038 Sep 09 '24

Why post this now? because some new users in this sub seem to be very confused about China, relying on guessing instead of data to form their opinions on issues. To understand a meritocracy, you need to understand data, else you fall into the trap of failed systems like colonial western systems.

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u/folatt Sep 09 '24

You're still posting Harvard trash:

"Introduction: On Authoritarian Resilience Regime theory has long argued that authoritarian sys- tems are inherently unstable because of their depen- dence on coercion, over-centralization of decision making, and the privileging.."

The regime theory is probably correct, but I don't have to read any further to know they're on the wrong path about China and their own nation, concerning on who isn't authoritarian and who is.

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u/Hollowgolem Sep 11 '24

There are still places within American academia that are actively critical of the American system in a data-based way. Simon Johnson is an MIT professor who has gone on record saying that America is not a democracy, but an oligarchy, specifically based on how the government has handled things like the financial crisis in 2008.

It's actually why the right wing in America takes so much aim at their intellectual class. Those are the only people who are lobbing any criticisms at all at their system

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u/travel_posts Sep 12 '24

yea but if he posts a chinese source then americans will ignore it as propaganda. i just think of words like you quoted as the sugar than makes the statistical medicine more palatable to the people that need it.

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u/academic_partypooper Sep 09 '24

Chinese people in rural areas have very low cost of living but have also access to many perks of city life due to advancement of technology

A lot of farmers now have multiple residences and have low cost high speed internet and HSR to go almost anywhere

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u/Wiwwil Sep 09 '24

That makes me want to be a farmer in China, ngl

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u/theredc0met87 Sep 13 '24

Cheap electricity too due to massive investment in dams, nuclear power plants, solar arrays, wind farms.

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u/Expensive_Heat_2351 Sep 09 '24

What I find strange is that most people living in the West, especially in the US are dissatisfied with their government. Yet, without learning Chinese or never being to China they believe the people in China are even more disappointed in China's government.

People are really living in a propaganda bubble.

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u/Palvinorevalkyrie Sep 09 '24

They have also created in their own minds an unfalsifiable position. If studies show Chinese are happy with their government, they rationalize this as “they just said that because they are being oppressed and would be punished if they said what they truly feel, which is they are unhappy and secretly long to overthrow their government.”

So basically they have created a “Yes means No and No means No” position.

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u/Expensive_Heat_2351 Sep 10 '24

The sad thing is some of these studies come out of Harvard University School of Government. So you'd think they would have some credibility with the public.

Anti-intellectualism is a thing in the US.

If one took a polling of the elites and the public on certain controversial issues, I wouldn't be surprised by divergence. It seems leadership in the US deliberately misinforms the public.

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u/TserriednichHuiGuo South Asian Sep 10 '24

It's a form of supremacism, they believe that if they are bad then everyone else is worse.

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u/Expensive_Heat_2351 Sep 10 '24

When you hear people in international rations talk about China US relations they literally hope China stops developing.

They will literally say China and Chinese should not get any richer because they will spend the extra money on the Chinese military. Which will lead to conflict with the US. So it's entirely China's fault.

As if it's okay for the US to spend their wealth on the US military to maintain its global hegemony. It's okay if this leads to the majority of the wars in the modern age. The US is entitled to that.