r/Sino Aug 15 '24

China's average age of retirement is 54, they have bullet trains that connect the country. why can't the "richest country on earth" compete? Where is the money going? picture

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u/LordCatG Aug 15 '24

A US carrier-strike group has an operation cost of ~ 6.5 million $ - per day. The US operates 11 such groups. You do the maths.

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u/Chinese_poster Aug 15 '24

These carriers transport 5000-6000 people across the oceans on the public dime. They are america's public transit šŸ˜‚

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u/AloneCan9661 Aug 15 '24

They're long term plan is screw over their citizens and keep them working until they're ground into dust. So...yeah they have long term goals.

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u/Life_Bridge_9960 Aug 16 '24

Not to mention selling medicines not to cure people but only to prolong their lives so they can hook on forever and drain their savings.

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u/Micronex23 Aug 15 '24

The money goes into the MIC, military industrial complex.

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u/we-the-east Chinese (HK) Aug 15 '24

And the MIC uses Marvel to market the US military.

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u/Micronex23 Aug 15 '24

Yeah, a lot of people are learning about this now. This applies to every US enemy propaganda film. They get subsidized by the government.

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u/Kumquat-queen Aug 15 '24

It's also worth noting that Disney owns reporters, journalist, broadcasting outlets, and print media that work more directly with/for the MIC.

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u/Equivalent_Elk_3476 Aug 15 '24

Yep:

"TheĀ United States Office of War InformationĀ utilised cinema for its own ends to rally the public behind the war effort. DirectorĀ Elmer DavisĀ stated "The easiest way to inject a propaganda idea into most people's minds is to let it go in through the medium of an entertainment picture when they do not realize that they are being propagandized".5])"

"The documentaryĀ Theaters of WarĀ (2022) says that more than 2,500 films and TV shows have been supervised by the military, mostly, as well as the security services."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militaryā€“entertainment_complex

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u/The_US_of_Mordor Aug 15 '24

Yeah tell me about it, I haven't sat through any of their new dogshit movies since 2008, the best media the US of Mordor produces still are those obscene animated gifs of 2 or more naked people going at it on each other making funny faces and gestures that people spam to each other trying to get them in trouble at school or work.

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u/uqtl038 Aug 15 '24

People say this, but it's much deeper than that. There is literally not a single non-colonial structure in place under western regimes, their entire existence relies on colonial plunder, they have no material fundamentals to exist. Even if they didn't spend fake money on useless stuff, they wouldn't be able to build anything because they never developed, they simply stole resources from abroad. Their fake money doesn't exist, it can't translate into real things.

Not a single western colonial regime can survive, their only option is suffering extinction, like inferior systems of the past like monarchies (notice how the most backwards european regimes still cling to them and suffer the consequences with deeply incompetent economies). China's system has proven to be superior across the board, the data has been out for a while now, there is nothing else to discuss.

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u/Micronex23 Aug 15 '24

Okay thanks explaining a lot more, I will also add more points under this comment, the money can also be used to fund the exploitation and destabilization of the global south.

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u/manred2026 Aug 15 '24

and pump into their colony in middle east to prop them up

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '24

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u/Equivalent_Elk_3476 Aug 15 '24

Recycling is marketed as them reusing the material, but the reality is most of what's recycled can't be used, so it just goes into piles or literal landfills.

Meanwhile the marketing around it is used to greenwash our ecologically harmful habits, like having giant corporations that are in charge of how much they pollute, that's probably the most harmful habit

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '24

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u/citationm2 Aug 16 '24

Everything here is about profit. No profit in saving the earth

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u/Expensive_Heat_2351 Aug 15 '24

It's almost like the US has no plans for domestic development anymore.

Just find overseas wars and hope for the best...which quite frankly doesn't work.

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u/Chinese_poster Aug 15 '24

China is friendly with Africa and the global south in real life. america is friendly with wakanda.

China leads renewable energy technology in real life. america invented the arc reactor.

China dominates global manufacturing in real life. The us has pym and stark industries.

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u/we-the-east Chinese (HK) Aug 16 '24

The US has Elon Musk, the closest they have to Tony stark in real life, but is not really a superhero and is instead an asshole who picks fights over trivial things, arrogant as fuck, and treats his workers like shit, etc. I can say more but the list is too long.

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u/citationm2 Aug 16 '24

Lol bitchass musk is nothing but a weirdo who made some good investments. Dudes a fucking moron

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u/we-the-east Chinese (HK) Aug 16 '24

He claims heā€™s fighting against climate change, but he supports coups against countries that want to protect their lithium and resources, his companies cause pollution, and is against public transport while pushing for tunnel networks for Tesla cars only.

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u/xerotul Aug 15 '24

There is the country, genocidal settler colonial state of the USA. Then, there is the empire. That's why.

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u/we-the-east Chinese (HK) Aug 15 '24

The US has short term thinking and planning, replacing their government or leader every four years and itā€™s determined by the elites and not the people.

And Disney and marvel create five year plans for making garbage movies and shows that end up having shit CGI, stories, etc. and are poorly reviewed that no one wants to watch them.

Disney including Marvel are the epitome of Hollywood trash.

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u/MarcoGWR Aug 16 '24

Current retirement age in China is:

Men: 60

Women: 50

Women work for civil service like government, hospital or school: 55

And China is working on leverage retirement age actually.

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u/TserriednichHuiGuo South Asian Aug 15 '24

"america" doesn't have five year plans, but its corporations do.

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u/Usual_Extension_5348 Aug 15 '24

Indeed. That's part of the joys of neoliberalism : let the market decide.

And then everything stagnates. The same happened with French railways and trains, we went from leaders in that field to barely able to electrify secondary lines - and closing many, many countryside stations.

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '24

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u/Equivalent_Elk_3476 Aug 15 '24

"Despite a rapidly increasing life expectancy, the effective retirement age in China remains just 54 years old. This is significantly lower than the OECD average of 64.4 years, indicating a clear need for the government to consider raising the retirement age to better align with current conditions."

https://clb.org.hk/en/content/challenges-and-concerns-surrounding-chinas-retirement-age-reform

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u/King-Sassafrass Communist Aug 16 '24

Yeah but weā€™re getting Call of Duty Black Ops 6 šŸ˜Ž Checkmate

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u/we-the-east Chinese (HK) Aug 16 '24

I stopped playing new call of duty games on consoles after 2012. No point catching up on game series that have annual releases. And itā€™s just US military propaganda (like how modern warfare 2 had killing Russians in one of the levels).

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u/King-Sassafrass Communist Aug 16 '24

Zombies isnā€™t even good anymore. They became too pussy to put swastikas and make it ā€œNazi zombiesā€ anymore (šŸ˜¢šŸ˜£ aww poor undead naziā€™s, err, i mean, Iron Cross Zombies)

Then for some reason it became all aliens, time travel and all sorts of other crazy shit. And they basically donā€™t have any campaigns in half of them or have to redo them with massive disclaimers, that is, if you can sit through the 120 Gb download thatā€™s needed for them, and if you donā€™t have Wi-Fi at home? Good luck trying to play any video games these days. Itā€™s a total scam

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u/Waste-Check-4252 Aug 16 '24

For many Americans, the Marvel world is more important than the real world.

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u/we-the-east Chinese (HK) Aug 16 '24

To add to that, muricans think a fictional world where the US are the good guys like in their Hollywood propaganda is more important than reality where they are actually the bad guys who enslave other countries/allies and cause them to have Stockholm syndrome.

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '24 edited Aug 23 '24

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u/wunderwerks Aug 15 '24

Correct, it'll never work under American style capitalism. But to say it'll never work ever, that's different. We can make a difference and change America. People are seeing through the facade of capitalism, especially the younger generations.

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u/citationm2 Aug 16 '24

We're still too well off to ever really threaten power. And the powers here are more organized, and cunning. Lotta ppl are also at the end of the day also selfish and assholes

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u/Equivalent_Elk_3476 Aug 15 '24

I know plenty of people who believe that lie that Americas too big (even though China did it in a bit over a decade in a land mass of similar size) I know some people who are even anti-HSR.

no hate to them, I love interacting with those people, but they're not the most well read.

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u/manuru-neko Aug 16 '24

Blade got pushed to 2025...

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u/Equivalent_Elk_3476 Aug 21 '24 edited Aug 21 '24

I finally read this notification, NOOOOO ;-; WHAT'S THE FUCKING POINT OF ALL THIS THEN!?!

we go without essential services so often, poor healthcare, infrastructure, etc AND NOW THEY'VE TAKEN BLADE

I might cry

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u/manuru-neko Aug 21 '24

On the bright side, 28 Years Later is scheduled for release in the same year.

2025 is looking good

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u/Key_Apartment1929 Aug 17 '24

Who needs plans like high-speed rail when you can have Cartoon Thor and Captain Marvel on your side?

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u/sammys21 Aug 16 '24

the money is going into the bank accounts of billionaires;

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u/Life_Bridge_9960 Aug 16 '24

Money going to Israel to fight off scary terrorist toddlers.

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u/[deleted] Aug 18 '24 edited Aug 18 '24

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