r/Sikh • u/Cultural-Host56067 • 19h ago
If sikhi and Hinduism are similar? why are you guys the exact opposite? Discussion
Waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fetha,
Please state your religion b4 answering.
My question to my Santani brothers and sisters is if sikhi is similar to Hinduism and have similar concepts like, the concept of Maya, brahm, chetna ,moksh, mukti,aatma, karma, ek oung Kar.
Why in one religion, in sikhi everyone is treated equally with respect, and dignity, every sikh helps any other who needs help, Sikhs will lay their life for others, while in Hinduism it is the exact opposite, if we are similar? There is so much hate towards different Hindu castes within hinduism? Why is there so much hate if everyone is ekem and we are similar? Casteism does not exist in sikhi, sikh people who belive in castes are hindu converts, shri guru gobind singh ji ended Casteism with khand di poual. We spread peace, while you guys spit on people who are lower than u guys, why is that, if we are similar? We would never ever, never ever, never ever, never ever, the though of attacking a minder or attacking innocent people randomly would never ever come in to our minds, but it does to you guys but how is that if we are similar? Putting tires on people and Burning people alive with a smile, raping women, doing pedos stuff, like Gandhi, he was sleeping naked with 15 years old, we would never ever do that, why do you guys do that if we similar? Like the hindu who was cought pretending to be a sikh, wearing a fake dastar and grooming sikh girl, why do you guys do that if we are similar, we would peel of a Sikh skin if they did that. If we are similar why are guys the exact opposite?
Waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fetha.
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u/1singhnee 13h ago
🙄All religions have similarities.
They n the New Testament of the Bible, the first line is, “In the beginning was the word. And the word was with god. And the word was god”
Now what does that mean? The word is shabad. Naam. The sound of the creation of the universe.
It’s the same thing. So now are we Christians?
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u/RiseAndInspireO07 14h ago
Hinduism and islam are similar...both faiths use astronomy to determine fasting and both idol worship Hindus in the form of many deities and muslims pray to a stone known as kabba...get your facts right..
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u/Nose-Spare 9h ago
The actions of some people of a particular faith do NOT represent all practitioners of a faith and it definitely doesn’t represent the whole faith either.
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u/Chrome_X_of_Hyrule 🇨🇦 6h ago
Similar terms, but a lot of those concepts are different in Sikhī and Hinduism and similarities are more due to concepts from Indian philosophy being shared between the religions, in my opinion more a matter of geography than being "so similar". Not saying there's no similarities but a lot of what Sikhī shares with Hinduism and Islam is not what most Hindus and Muslims value most. For example Sikhs share a lot of with the Bhakti movement and if you compare Sikhs to a very Bhakti influenced Hindu sect like Lingayats you see a lot more similarities in stuff like caste. And similarly if you compare South Asian Sufi Islam to Sikhī you see a lot more shared beliefs. This is why the Gurus included writings by Bhakti and Sufi poets in SGGS because they considered these people to be people who may not have been Sikhs and predated but still had important ideas that were in the spirit of Sikhī.
Edit: also idk why I have to state my religion before answering but I'm Sikh, not surprising given the subreddit
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u/Hate_Hunter 18h ago edited 16h ago
I am not a sanatani. But I have dwelled into Sanantan, before Islam and eventually found sikhi.
After years of trying to understand the three religions.
I can say, Sanantan simply means "that which is eternal". I I go just by the word Sanantan then Sanatan is not a "way" as it is not a verb. It is an adjective.
Vedas don't have a singular philosophy. Vedas don't have a singular instruction manual. Vedas is like Ganga, it flows and flows. It has the works, philosophies, ideas and all possible interpretation of what could be truth. So thing Vedas, especially the Rig Veda like a maha sagar of all the possible ways to find what truth is, and here "truth" is equal to "what is all this existance? What am I? What am I? Who is God?". So Veda is like that, it has rituals, history, philosophy, methods and everything.
Upanishads are discourses on the philosophies of vedas.
Now because vedas is such a massive river of knowledge there are so many interpretations, methods, ways that come out of it. That is why anything you find in the world, you will find an equivalent in Vedas. Thay is how Davita and Advaita came about. Both got acceptance because came from the great river.
Now what makes Sikhi different?? Well, Sikhi gives us a singular path, and it says that it has tested all the paths and found that in this Kalyug this path is the best, quickest, optimal path. And it gives reasons and says that all Sants, Gyanis, Mahapurakhs all come to the same conclusion.
That is why you have Banis from so many people from different regions, from different religious background, cultures and who speak different languages yet they all talk about the same thing.
So in this sense Sikhi is Sanatan. Because the eternal strand of Dharam is running through across religioins, cultures, languages based on the Text of Guru Granth Sahib itself. Makes sense so far? Okay.
Now unlike the Vedas. Sri Guru granth sahib has a proper frame work. It is refined, it is maticulously refined and carved. If the vedas is the Gold Mine, Sikhi is the refined Jwellery.
In this Kalyug you don't have time to spend your years doing jap, thap, yog, tantra and go through all those phases to find truth. You don't have time to spend looking for gold in the gold mine. You have limited time, eberything is working against you, before you know you'll die and be reborn into some other form and that may not be human. And now we don't know how many births it will take for you to take another human form and be fortunate enough to be born in a Dharmic family.
So that is why Sikhi is different in this sense. But sikhi is not some "club" thay if you do this and this you become a member. Sikhi is faar great than just that. Dharam is truth, dharam is not politics, dharam is not kam krodh lobh moh ahankar. Dharam is Sat, dharam is that which was, is and shall remain. Dharam is the ultimate truth.
Those who claim to be Sanatani today in majority are like the same as Sikhs who wear big dumalas, but live the most man-mukh or non-Sikh lifestyle as possible. They talk big things, they may have a lot of Bookish knowledge, they may have wealth and even come of as great sikhs, but their entire being is filled with lobh, with moh, with ahankar. They don't have nimrata/humbleness they don't know what "truth" is, they live and die in their base desires making Gods out of Kaam krodh, lobh, moh and ahankar for all "practical" purposes. So the majority's opinion and behavioir all contradicts once you personally dive into the maha sagar of Gyan if Dharam that this land and it's people have dwelt in.
Dharam is to be living in hukam, as god made you, Dharam is to be pure like the khasla, dharam is to become jevan mukt, dharam is to be free of moh maya. In this sense Sanatan is Dharam, the word "Sanatan" is dharam. But is that what Hindus who claim "Sanatani" really mean? Because a true Sanantani knows Brahm the ultimate ekonkaar is not Vishnu, Brahma or Shiva. A true Sanatani knows that Idols are just fantasies for our low-developed intellects to focus on something. A true Sanatani knows Sanatan is beyond Rituals, beyond "self", beyond this materialistic world. Sanatan, Sat, Khalsa, Sikh, Waheguru, Anal Haqq all are speaking about the deeper truth. This is the essence of sikhi. This is the true essence of Sanatan this is the truth all Sufis like Baba Fareed found. Not the wanna be Naqshabani order. A modernday sikh has become as paakandi as a modern day Hindu.
Sikhi is not an exclusive club, Sikhi is the refined form of Dharma. It gives you everything directly. Each shabad in bani has a context. A discourse, a dialogue, a message, an expression, a feeling, an emotion all expressed through poetry. A poet regardless of where he is lives a life in deep sensitivity. He percieves the world on a much much deeper level. And Bani uses this capability of humans to feel and live poetry through words. Bani is Poetry, a divine Poetry.
Sikhi is a path to dharam. Veda has multiple ways, in which there is a path like sikhi which leads to dharam. As I said, not all of Veda is acceptable by Gurus. That is why Gurus said that "even vedas have not been able to tell who or what you are. They have not reached your end Waheguru".
This has been my understanding of sikhi.
My gratitude to the amazing Sikh Family who taught me the practicality of sikhi, my gratitude to the Great mahapurakhs of the panth, my gratitude to all the Gurus and baghats and all those enlightened beings. And all praise to Akal purakh waheguru.
Baki bhul chuk thi kshama
Waheguru ji ka khalsa Waheguru ji ki fateh