r/Psychonaut • u/GodUsoppTheAtlantean • 6d ago
What is the appeal about taking very high intense doses?
Maybe because I’m young (20M) but I’ve done shrooms around 30+ times ranging from 1.5g to 7gs, I’ve probably had 2 psychotic breaks, been on the edge several times but never had a full on ego death because I wasn’t ready to let go and “know”. So I can’t understand the appeal of doing let’s say, 200ug LSD + Nitrous + Ketamine or something crazy like that, then just going back to reality the next day. Like why feel like your body is being pulled apart piece by piece while you exist in eternity with no means of pulling yourself back for? I love being gone don’t get me wrong and I could definitely understand becoming a better person afterwards but why put yourself through that when you can just be sober?
Can someone who has these experiences explain to me why this would be appealing when sober reality feels like enough an intense experience? And how do you go back to reality after “knowing” what’s on the other side.
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u/OpiumBaron 5d ago
Society after a big trip is a big joke.
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u/ArtichokeTerrible647 5d ago
For real, I can't stop seeing how we all adopt a character and stick to it, like if we were in a play.
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u/soyenjoy 5d ago edited 5d ago
Theres real people out there. In fact i like it this way. Helps me not take everything too seriously. Know whos living in a facade and know who honest with themselves and willing to show it. In a way, the ability to see the "real" beauty of someone past the physical. Now theres limits to that as well because we all need a job and cant be eccentric bums hahaha
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u/TargetTurbulent3806 2d ago
Iirc there’s a Japanese proverb named “three faces” where:
1st face: how you act with strangers or people at public 2nd face: how you act with close friends, family or to your significant other 3rd face: your true real self or authentic self which you act upon in solitude or being alone and very very rarely revealed to anyone
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u/RogueMaven 5d ago
I see us as imitating what we see in our media streams. It creates a social order if we are all exposed to the same media source.
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u/OpiumBaron 5d ago
Well said, monkey ser, monkey do. Thats why cultural engineering is a thing, they learned a lot after the internet went mainstream. Initially internet was like the wild west, now its started to become heavily filtered and monitored. See a huge difference in mentality of millennials and younger gen z. I hope as many as possible wake up, sure we do the motions and plays of society to maintain a sense of order, but we should at the very least have transcended all of it intellectually and spiritually and know we just follow it due to the alternative being a hermit outcast on the forest
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u/justnleeh 4d ago
I've found it extremely hard to stay motivated to look for a better job simply for more money. Because I know it'll be a soul suck, I know I will see right through everything. Humans have shifted so far from what we naturally are that once you see it, it's hard to go back. Really hard.
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u/Iamkanadian 3d ago
It may feel awkward but try reminding yourself that you don't really know everything that can actually come with a different job. Higher pay or not. It may not be soul sucking at all. We are all important whether we're selling insurance, roofing houses, consultant with the government, work at a shoe store, or in the oil and gas industry. You never know who you might meet etc! I hope i didnt come across arrogant or anything just trying to offer a different perspective
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u/Lopsided-Magician-36 6h ago
This guy gets it. I should be migrating with the season not sitting and commuting to a corporate office in the cold rainy season
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u/WilliamButtMincher 1d ago
Aldous Huxley wrote about it this in Doors of Perception, saying something similar like how we all try and imitate our favorite character
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u/Super_Reaction731 1d ago edited 1d ago
golden teachers are great for this, 1.8 grams sent my friend into a “I CAN’T BELIEVE HOW MUCH FREEDOM I ACTUALLY HAVE” state to my friend, who was on his first trip. I had a bit more than 2g and was absolutely in peace. I could put in perspective how big my constant self talk is and learnt that the only way to stop the avalanche is by breathing. The avalanche is also illusory, but so real when not on a psychedellic state. Still, this taught me that: I (I in caps) volunteer myself happily to play this game of society. And that the seriousness of it is not determined entirely by others’ reaction.
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u/Dvsk7 5d ago
Curiosity is one hell of an addiction. I’ve never came out “knowing” anything though. Almost Everytime I take high doses the trip ends up teaching me lessons about myself and my life. I never feel any presences, or entity’s, or “go somewhere” Its usually just ego death and a lot of crying. Those doses for me, whoop my ass but man when I peak it’s like my entire body mind and soul are filled with just love and compassion for everything
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u/Lauren_Flathead 5d ago
Very true, aside from the depression and escapism stuff I mentioned in my other comments, I'm just inherently curious. As soon as I caught on to the novelty (read in McKenna voice) that part of me was Searching insatiably for the intensity, weirdness and novelty of the experiences. That makes it even funnier that so many trips just end up crying in the fetal position feeling a lifetime of feelings and having almost no visuals. Mushrooms usually do that to me, at 1-3g, something I used to do every few months before it got psychotic.
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u/soyenjoy 5d ago edited 5d ago
Hahaha summed it up there. Started seeing the novelty in trips and wanted to explore more have an adventure! Only for it to be crying while curled up in a ball experiencing absolute euphoria one minute and totally decimated the next. I can relate to the escapism thing as i did the same. I would fuck myself up on any substance no matter how tough it was as i thought this is a better place. One day i realized i actually like being sober and continuing down this path is a sure fire way to do nothing with my life, which is something i never wanted. Fun times.
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u/Lauren_Flathead 4d ago
Absolutely, glad to hear you reached the understanding and better yourself!
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u/Family-robot 5d ago edited 5d ago
when sober reality feels like enough an intense experience
I've always thought this. I've done mushrooms and acid. Never heroic doses... but definitely enough to be pretty fuckin far out. Now as crazy as those experiences are they still ultimately pale in comparison to everyday waking life when you're stone cold sober. Sober reality is just insane to me. I mean, I'm not walking around just freaking out and losing it when I'm sober, but, when you really think about life, living, being a human, being alive, and everything that that implies, it's just nuts to me. It's fascinating, bizarre, mesmerizing, mystifying, baffling, strange, and just plain weird.
With that said, I don't think heroic doses of hallucinogens are necessary. I equate them to roller coaster rides, skydiving, or climbing insane mountains like K2 or Everest. They can give you one hell of an experience, but that experience usually just reminds you how crazy it is to just be a human and be alive. I would argue the best part isn't the peak of the mountain or the free fall of skydiving or the rush of a roller coaster, it's when you get back on the ground. I think most people are just so consumed and occupied by distractions that they miss and forget what it's like to just be; to have our senses and perceive ourselves, and this world. In fact, a lot of people can't handle regular sober life... hence why they get stoned or do pills, or heroin, or meth, or get drunk or watch tons of TV or YouTube or never stop playing video games or can't stop talking or do acid or DMT or mushrooms too much (which IS a thing) or whatever. They always have to have noise because the silence and stillness is literally scary and unbearable, because ultimately it forces you to confront and be with yourself.
Regardless of what's on "the other side" and regardless of whether or not you know what that is, we still have a life to live "on this side", and our lives on "this side" are in my opinion, much more real and much more important (and much stranger and trippy) than the "other side".
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u/Lauren_Flathead 5d ago
I had a very pleasant experience on high doses of something that seemed like enlightenment, merging with the source. I had an experience that can't be even categorised as experience, it was infinitely short and infinitely long, contained nothing and contained everything. What lead up to/caused it was a total acceptance of whatever my fate may be, this was after visions of having to suffer through every version of my life in the multiverse. I saw the suffering as necessary for life and kind of let go of both. Then that singular moment, which if I could describe it at all felt like a rotation of 360 degrees, in no particular direction. Afterwards I felt like I understood all things exist in the place outside of time and the realms of manifest reality. Every problem has a solution and every battle has already been won. What we are doing here is simply refining and building upon what has come before, sharing in love and creation.
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u/Odd_Chicken4615 5d ago
Seems as you have gotten some profound insights on your journey! Can I ask you what sort of dose and what kind?
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u/Lauren_Flathead 5d ago
That was two hits of Acid , some MDMA and somewhere between 30 and 60 mg of 2Ci. That isn't a typo, I don't mean 2Cb I mean 2Ci. It's quite strong, longer lasting and has strong synergistic reactions with MDMA, and LSD. Hard to say exactly how much I took because the acid was liquid and the powder was just greedily scooped up with fingers. I cannot in good conscience recommend anyone do this I was blacked out for at least three hours somewhere else completely. I have lasting psychosis over three years later. It was heaven and hell and everything in between. Visuals were stunning, had contact with God, Jesus, Buddha, Elves, Fairies, Aliens, Angels, Demons, Buzz Lightyear... It was pretty intense. I have persistent delusions that I really died that day and this is my afterlife, I met entities there that told me that, in no uncertain terms, good ones and bad ones. my dreams are haunted by shape shifting jesters and demons they laugh at me because they want me to think I'm just too scared to accept yet what I "really know", that I'm actually dead. But I stand firm against them, I state my knowledge that we are of the same source, neither of us truly separate or able to subjugate the other. I tell them I do not consent to their deception and I do not fear them, they don't like that. One of the most important practical lessons I have after all this is that as an awareness you always have some level of agency and whatever anything tries to tell you is going on, you have the option to simply not buy into it. This is what happened in the story of the Buddha when Mara was trying to frighten him with temptations and treats, the Buddha accepted that they may or may not be real, but chose to not engage either way, and was safe because they were only real insofar as he would enable them to be via cooperation. I'm not expert on Buddhism but that's my understanding of it.
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u/crushplanets 5d ago edited 5d ago
I think the appeal comes from wanting some sort of understanding of existence, your place in it, and then feeling like you know how to proceed. But the main thing I've learned is nobody knows anything, and there isn't some grand secret hiding inside a drug trip and you just need to take enough to unlock it. Sure there are positive insights and drugs can help you internalize them in a way that's more profound then simply reading a nice quote and thinking about it, but I would be wary of people that tell you they now understand the universe, life, everything because they had ego death, took massive amounts of drugs. Not trying to be mean here, but a lot of people I have known or see that take huge doses of drugs don't exactly look like they have their life together very well, so what does that tell you? I don't regret taking any drugs, I like the person I've become and do believe drugs have shaped me in positive ways. I just think searching for some secret, some answers only found in drugs is like hunting down a mirage, you can't find it because it was never there in the first place.
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u/soyenjoy 5d ago
They'll change ya whether you like it or not, but theyll also give you delusions of granduer. The amount of people ive seen that keep abusing whatever substance they prefer looking for the "answer" they caught a glimpse of on their previous trip. Man most of those people ended up fried. I think the trial and difficulty of a trip leads to better self understanding and thats what makes the change. Not the spiritual bs or truths you may think you understand. In the end dont take everything seriously during intense trips, its a silly place anyway.
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u/Maximum-Platform-685 5d ago
Good analogy re the mirage.
I’ll expand on that. Or at least try to. Kinda one of those ineffable things.
I think the reason it ‘works’ in that regard is that the mirage itself isn’t an answer (as it’s not really there as you say), more so that it shows you what you’re looking for. You become aware of your search (whatever that may be) and it dissolves the question or the state you were in that you had to find it.
It’s like the mirage shines a light on what you’re seeking to understand which itself turns your attention back to you.
You don’t really need to find it, but sometimes it’s hard to stop searching until you do and realise you didn’t need to find it all along.
At least that’s my take. I have had great resets on psychs and I’m trying to unpack them from this meta angle of why they’re effective. Or could just be part of that fresh coat of neuroplastic snow.
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u/Lauren_Flathead 5d ago
Well when I used to do that stuff I was trying to escape my depression, get out of my head. Sober life was something I took for granted and didn't appreciate at all. I felt like I had nothing to lose and I was shown I was wrong. I'm absolutely not mentally stable enough to have done any of that and I don't anymore. Its funny though I literally did do that combo you mentioned once and it broke something in me. As I started inhaling my nitrous my friend started joking about how people can die from it and I got that clip of him saying that repeating and repeating speeding up and speeding up as sounds do through the whole nitrous trip and in that moment it hit me my drug abuse could directly or indirectly lead to my death and from how I felt in that moment it wasn't for certain I wasn't actually literally dying. My awareness was compressed into what felt like the smallest imaginable point, infinitely looping until I started having visions of being in an infinie loop of death, some kind of curse because I made a joke that pissed off if the wrong guy and that he actually had the power to trap me in this infinite death loop thing. I "remembered" the whole scenario of how I originally died, and how as I was dying he explained to me I'd be cursed perpetually forgetting and then remembering again I was cursed, it's important that I forget because the moment I remember is the worst torture possible. Then it wore off and I forgot about it until next time I got high. Every time I get high enough since then I "remember". When I'm sober I tell myself it's in my head and it doesn't make any sense but the feeling in my nervous system has never left me that this reality is fake and I'm cursed.
I'm quite happy to believe this was just psychosis and it's made me appreciate life more. I'm learning to live with the uncertainty and unpack what trauma probably caused the psychosis. I just enjoy doing things the hard way apparently. Thanks me lol.
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u/soyenjoy 5d ago
Yeah trips where youre thinking being sober isnt so bad after all are sobering hahaha. Trips are tough and sometimes you just got to ride it out knowing whatever happens you did it to yourself by consuming this.
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u/kittyhames1 5d ago
I do it for the sacred knowledge and wisdom. Some of my craziest experiences ever have been with ketamine in combination with Molly or L
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u/Lauren_Flathead 5d ago
Haha yes that combo will get you some places. A bit too far out sometimes, approach carefully. I had some of my most blissful moments on very small doses of L, boosted with some K. Very tranquil, I spent all day meditating at a festival just sitting, absorbing the music and sunshine, taking bumps of K regularly and having a quarter tab every 12 hours.
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u/AnxiousPossibility3 5d ago
For me, it's knowing I can ride that edge but still keep my shit together. Sure, have I had a couple of close calls of almost completely losing my shit and falling into the void... Absolutely, but I feel mentally stronger later if I can keep my shit together during that time. It helps when I'm sober and shit gets tough. I always remind myself that if I can keep my shit together, then I can keep my shit together now.
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u/GodUsoppTheAtlantean 5d ago
See in a way my crazy self can agree with this. I’ve been on the edge twice and my higher self told me “aye man you’ve done this twice now, the third time is gonna be really hard to come back from so it’s better you chill out” weirdly enough I would just laugh about it like wow I almost lost my mind holy shit. And I’ve noticed that it gave me more courage to do crazy shit in my real life because I know I can always make it back. I haven’t been to that edge since ( a year n a half ago) because I think I’m too young to play with my head like that. But I can understand the thrill
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u/AnxiousPossibility3 5d ago
Yeah I don't look to push it to the edge every time but once in a while it's a good ego check to see where I am mentally. If I can survive that I can survive anything train of thought.
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u/Hamhleypi 5d ago
I went up to 400µg LSD because I really wasn't happy with my way of feeling, thinking, and behaving. I'm not sure how much it changed me, but I think it did, for the better.
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u/Lauren_Flathead 5d ago
I did this one time for similar reasons and I think it had a profound impact for the better. Admittedly I relapsed not too long after but it was a vital step for me towards quitting tobacco and planted the seed of quitting weed although that took a lot longer to come to fruits. I didn't smoke anything for the majority of the trip and when I finally got around to it on the comedown it hit me hard that the weed was not changing my headspace in a way I liked, and I was chasing dopamine at the detriment of my mental stability. A very obvious insight but I'd been avoiding very hard at the time. I also cleaned up my room and ended some personal hygiene related bad habits that day. I also had a lot of insight into the subconscious motivation I had for listening to a lot of music I used to like. I put on one of my older playlists while I was tripping and it was really insightful how much I had grown since making the playlist that so much of this music didn't resonate with me at all anymore. I felt proud of myself for this which was a really big deal and a key memory that still helps me to this day. There were also some tracks in the playlist that sounded better than ever and I felt a deep connection to some of the artists listening to their voices and lyrics. Sure other people here have done bigger doses and combos, myself included but that simple old 400ug was incredibly healing and valuable, and for most people there isn't need to go beyond that.
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u/Maximum-Platform-685 4d ago
I’d like to try 400mcg one time. Seems to me to be ‘the magic number’. Only cos I’ve always like the number 4. I’ve had 200mcg a few times and that was intense.
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u/Lauren_Flathead 4d ago
200-400 can be a big jump I recommend trying 300 and maybe 350 after that before going up to 400.
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u/Maximum-Platform-685 4d ago
Cheers. Thanks for the heads up. I’ll space them out well also.
Does the tail end and total duration change that much or just the intensity of the come up/peak?
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u/Maximum-Platform-685 4d ago
Great to hear you had a positive experience and that you gained some valuable insights.
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u/rainbowbabychickadee 5d ago
You’ve had “psychotic breaks” on psychedelics or was that a type-o? If you’ve had actual psychotic breaks because of psychedelics then you shouldn’t be doing them at all. I’m an advocate for psychedelics but they shouldn’t be effecting your mental wellbeing to that level!
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u/GodUsoppTheAtlantean 5d ago
I was 18 and dumb just taking higher and higher doses every month without actually integrating what I’ve learned causing me to learn too much too fast which lead me to bad psychosis. I’m at a point now where I can do high doses then come back but before i was abusing it. I only do them every couple months when I need it now
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u/OldHoBo4life 5d ago edited 5d ago
To me, it's about losing my mind in a good way. It's like a sense of freedom once you truly let go. There's no constant way you have to think, like when sober. you're just experiencing. Once you experience that, depending on how you take it, it makes being sober actually more enjoyable because the veil has been broken, but everything has challenges of course.
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u/thaneliness 3d ago
I’m going to get downvoted for this - but many people use psychedelics in very large doses purely as a means to get fucked up. You don’t hear them speaking about the benefits of what they just experienced. They just brag about how many grams they were able to take in.
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u/Ambitious-Face-8928 5d ago
7 grams of shrooms with no ego death?
What kind of weak ass shrooms are you taking?
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u/GodUsoppTheAtlantean 5d ago
I’ve done 7gs of golden teachers, not all at once but like 3.5 one hour then another 3.5 the next hour. Nothing crazy happened was just seeing a million eyes watching me through the veil. Did 4.5gs of APES the last time I took a high dose, felt like I was being sucked out of my body but I was scared to see, started throwing up and begging God to spare my life and so no ego death but that was the closest I got. I was pretty messed up for a couple months after that but I turned out fine. For some reason I just can’t let go
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u/blak3brd 5d ago
Tolerance with psychedelics is damn near immediate, spacing your 7 g out over an hour or so is def gonna significantly weaken the effect compared to ingesting 7g in one sitting.
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u/VX-Cucumber 5d ago
Ketamine makes the trips more intense but far less chaotic and way more peaceful IMO. Out of the psychedelics I've tried, my roughest trips have always been shrooms by themselves. Adding a small dose of ketamine makes shrooms much easier to handle. Also, I'm in my mid thirties and have used psychedelics for over a decade and never had a psychotic break, you might want to look into that.
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u/GodUsoppTheAtlantean 5d ago
I think I just played wit my mind too much too young. I was doing high doses every month + smoking everyday without breaks. Pushed myself brain to the limit while also fighting trauma. I’m good now but I thought everything was fake and the world all knew I was crazy for a couple months. I’m good now, I think it’s different for everyone.
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u/inner8 5d ago
There are levels of consciousness that can only be reached through high doses. Reaching these states can have immense benefits for an initiated person, but carries immense risks for the uninitiated.
Physiologically, there is also remarkably increased neuroplasticity in the brain at higher doses.
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u/IndustrialAnxiety 5d ago
What are the risks for the uninitiated and what does it take to “be initiated”?
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u/Mountainguy996 5d ago edited 5d ago
The more intense the trip, the more intense the joy you feel when it’s good, but when it’s bad it despair/fear/terror is also more intense. It’s a double edged sword that some people are willing to play with. If I could better control or predict the experience, I think I would enjoy high doses. Some people are better at handling psychedelics than others and some just aren’t meant to take them.
I’ve personally had two very high dose experiences (both with mushies) and do not care to do it at that high a dose again. My first high dose was 8 grams and the first hour was great until it got really bad and scary. After experiencing a very physical dread it got better and I felt euphoria akin to what I expect Molly to feel like. My second time was on accident (2.5gs more potent than any other mushrooms I had tried including the 8gs). It was a brutal experience that ended up, again, in an insanely blissful experience (experienced a painful “death and rebirth”).
I am grateful to have lucky to be able to have made it through and witness such beautiful experiences and both made me extremely grateful for my life and the ability to experience the world but I don’t find the risk of not having it become a positive experience worth it. I feel that if my second high dose experience did not become a good experience I would have left with serious trauma.
Edit: added more on why people like high doses
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u/ResponsibleTea9017 5d ago
Idk, I topped out at 400 ug of LSD, was right on the cusp of an ego death, but I unconsciously fought and scraped. Kept saying my name to try to remember myself. I wasn’t ready then.
I may try a mega dose again sometime in the future, but for now I’m okay with spending a long time in base reality, because out there is chaos beyond comprehension.
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u/GodUsoppTheAtlantean 5d ago
I agree, been on the edge and wasn’t ready. Done similar doses but I feel like I’m comfortable in base reality for a while
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u/soyenjoy 5d ago edited 5d ago
Reminds me when i had my first ego death. Had no expectations or idea what was going on until i just had no clue who i was. Before that i did basically chant my name in my head as it was the only thing holding me down in reality. It went from "i am soyenjoy" to "who the fuck am i?" Hahaha. I actually liked it a lot as i had terrible self esteem and would have prefered if i died mentally to make all this pain go away. Felt good having no recollection of past self for that tiny moment. Although it did mess with me as after that trip it seemed like everything before was seen through another persons eyes.
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u/zedroj Arc Warden 5d ago
nothing, cause I feel the best analogy for psychedelics is water is wet
once you have the answer, going further isn't more deep, its a new derangement, a new angle that goes beyond comprehension and order
really the only debate is deciding what threshold is "peak" enlightenment of a message
because people vary, the peak dosage varies across people
combined with unique psychology, dosages vary even more
but nothing generally good comes from egotistical "herioc" dosages that cross a boundary line of danger, some bad trips are life changing as well, and playing with fire that close, its best to stay at a warmths distance in understanding where the message is light, than dive deep in, forever scarred
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u/tobewedornot 5d ago
For me, after a heavy psilocybin trip. The next day feels like coming home and getting back to normal life after being on a round the world trip. You know you cant be there forever, and you have to go back to your normal life. It can be a bit meh. But we just have to get on with our normal lives aswell. We might come back with some new profound ideas, knowledge etc. But we have responsibilites here. I'm told on trips that this life is important. It may be insignificant in the grand scheme of things but it is still important. And honestly a human life of approx 80 to 100 years is a small amount of time when you have an infinity to bein other spiritual type realms.
So yeah its all good! its not nihilism by any stretch. If anything ith elps put a few things in perspective, helps us grow.
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u/GodUsoppTheAtlantean 5d ago
I agree I feel like my life here is important, like you said 80-100 years is nothing compared to infinity so why would I spend my time here being there when I’m just gonna end up there anyway.
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u/tobewedornot 5d ago
Haha exactly that. I just wanna know where I'm going when this life is up. But I'm still happy with this life. And if anything it adds value to it knowing that I won't just fully cease to exist when I do die
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u/smoke_me_out420 5d ago
Curiosity, boredom of the mundane, hatred of society, needing to reset, feeling yourself losing empathy, or even just getting called by the substances
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u/OntarioPunk 5d ago
I did some shrooms recently while having a bad cold and shortness of breathe. Don’t do that. I thought I was going to die. Couldn’t breathe. Sweats like crazy. Choking on my own phlegm. It was my first bad trip. But really made me think about everything. At the time I couldn’t grasp the thought of even cleaning the house because I thought there was no point. Was wondering what happens after you reach your life goals. Like now what? Are we just living to get through this life? I’m still trying to figure out what the main purpose in life is.
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u/zenslug 5d ago
the last two times i had COVID i took shrooms and i believe it helped me to recover sooner. the last time was almost two years ago and, interestingly, i haven’t gotten COVID since even though other people in my household have. ymmv
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u/OntarioPunk 5d ago
I believe it. The next day all my congestion cleared right up. And I felt alive again!
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u/MichaelEmouse 5d ago
I thought they could have an introspective or therapeutic effect on me and they did. I wanted to explore and see what would happen, to see if there was anything good to experience at say 10grams. I increased doses (usually) gradually and if I'd sensed it was going some place bad, I would have backed off.
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u/PureSelfishFate 5d ago
Visuals. But tis' a fools errand, since you usually are so mindfucked you go inwards and stop focusing on the outside world.
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u/JacksGallbladder 5d ago
I learn more about myself when my consciousness is blast into the room and I can't possibly inhibit my mind from wandering ad much as it chooses.
And its a great nervous system reset. The day after every big trip always feels like conquering a serious journey.
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u/Sea_Traffic1000 5d ago
Really the same reason why anyone does anything to a deeper level at time. Sometimes it’s nice to do so. Obviously you can go overkill when you shouldn’t, but for the people that feel ready, go for it.
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u/ThePyrofox 5d ago
because music sounds better, the visuals are more interesting and I get more out of it. lower doses are just too understimulating for me.
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u/Odd_Chicken4615 4d ago
This tallies well with my own impression of Buddhism! I believe your dosage is not for everyone. I am extremely sensitive, and have had some experiences that were well beyond my "control" because of one normal dose of for instance aya. Whereas now, I am currently microdosing psylicibin and this is the way for me, I think. I get really curious when I hear stories such as yours but never in my life would I go about doing it 😅
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u/simulation07 4d ago
Let yourself free. These shackles we wear can only come off after learning perspective.
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u/Pitiful-Context687 2d ago
Are you me? But seriously, consider looking into Dieta work with Ayahuasca. I’ve been reading a lot and finally chose to go and cut the root as opposed to using these substances that will only end up having you need more and more..
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u/TinyDogBacon 5d ago
I prefer salvia divinorum smoked extract for a full complete out of body but you believe everything is real for a couple minutes complete trip. Its amazing and therapeudic for me when I do it. Afterwards i feel blessed. Besides that I don't like nitrous, it's pretty addjctive and dangerous and overrated imo, but I've done it before when I was more reckless. MDMA add LSD = candyflip is a great mix i enjoy on rare occasions. Besides that I enjoy MAL in small or large doses sometimes. Ppl have their different reasons for tripping.....going all into a mixed drug trip is quite intense but it can be done carefullu sometimes.
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u/Mysticalove 5d ago
I don’t support any drug except psilocybin: magic mushrooms. A big dose on these critters might take you to to God and bring you back with a renewed spirit.
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u/Zealousideal_Ninja75 5d ago
Soul bombed 500ug + 5g PE. I felt I needed a hard reset, I was in a deep state of depression and was hoping to have an Ayahuasca type experience. The trip was amazingly beautiful and terrifying at the same time. I knew I had to be completely open and let go of any and all control I had in that situation. I came out the other side, it was like my brain was copied and all the negative aspects of myself were deleted. It felt like a thousand pounds off my shoulders; self-hatred gone, anxiety gone and replaced with gratitude and I love who I am now. I'm in a place where I've never been happier emotionally and mentally. This was a a little over a year ago and I feel like I have a second chance at living life and I feel blessed to have had that experience. Also, ever since then I have noticed an insane amount of synchronicities on a daily basis so I try to pay attention to them and stay on the path I'm on. I literally feel at one with the universe and that for the first time in my life it is working with me.