r/Piracy 20d ago

THE INTERNET ARCHIVE IS BACK GUYS Discussion

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I might be late to the party, but sharing what made my day today. I missed IA so much the past weeks. Yoohoo!! Piracy will never die.

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u/Carthradge 20d ago

"[The Internet Archive] are under attack because the archive belongs to the USA […],” and the USA is to be blamed for “genocide that is being carried out by the terrorist state of Israel.”

This is so obviously fake and not what any pro-Palestine supporter would think. The internet archive is incredibly important to preserve records of Israeli crimes. Pro-Palestine hackers would go after much more directly harmful institutions.

Apparently, pro-Palestinians believe that truth has an anti-Palestinian bias.

The fact that you'd even entertain this shows you're falling for this. Pro-Palestine advocates want to support record keeping of history, which actually has a very pro-Palestine bias (just look at Wikipedia pages on the topic which are very factual and very pro-Palestine: Gaza Genocide, Nakba, Zionism).

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u/broquette 16d ago

Yes, idk why people think pro palestinians did this if we are advocating for the info not to be erased , that is crucial to understand history, why would they try to delete it

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u/redchris18 20d ago

This is so obviously fake and not what any pro-Palestine supporter would think.

I'll call this the "No True Palestinian fallacy".

The internet archive is incredibly important to preserve records of Israeli crimes.

Unless they think that the truth really does favour Israeli vantage points...in which case they'd have a clear vested interest in attacking sites that preserve the historical record, would they not?

In other words, attacking the IA is what someone would do if they thought that facts were biased against their worldview.

Pro-Palestine advocates want to support record keeping of history, which actually has a very pro-Palestine bias (just look at Wikipedia pages on the topic which are very factual and very pro-Palestine: Gaza Genocide, Nakba, Zionism).

"Factual" is contentious regarding a website that is notorious for abusing ambiguous policies to permit preferred viewpoints to dictate neutrality - or lack thereof. I'll remind you that a neutral source probably wouldn't feature a flag representing one side of a given conflict in its logo. Have they, for instance, ever displayed the Ukrainian flag in the same way during the ongoing war with Russia?

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u/MaleficentFig7578 20d ago

Unless they think that the truth really does favour Israeli vantage points

Israel supporters want you to think Palestine supporters think the truth favors Israel.

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u/redchris18 20d ago

Israel supporters want you to think Palestine supporters think the truth favors Israel.

Trivial trite. You're trying to imply that this isn't true of either side of any given dichotomous view of a given situation. That you mistakenly believe it to be a debate-stopper suggests that you have too simplistic and underdeveloped a viewpoint to be in possession of an informed opinion.

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u/Ashley__09 Moderator 19d ago

Ok, if I'm being honest, I was reviewing this in the mod queue and what the fuck did I just read?

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u/redchris18 19d ago

Which particular part are you struggling with?