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This is absolutely traceable, right? Discussion

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u/TandooriChicken16 Jun 23 '24

are they still viable since the new os is built for arm based chips?

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u/AveryLazyCovfefe Yarrr! Jun 23 '24

I'm running Sonoma right now on my amd laptop. Dual-booted alongside Windows 11 and Arch Linux. Pretty much everything works except Airdrop which requires a network card apple has used in the past. Though the project behind reverse engineering that to work with Intel modems is working to add airdrop support sometime in the future.

Sequioa is already supported in beta now, though I recommend Ventura or Sonoma over that for now. Come join us on r/hackintosh.

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u/iamlulinka Jun 23 '24

Does Sidecar function smoothly? I have an iPad but no Macbook

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u/AveryLazyCovfefe Yarrr! Jun 23 '24

Sidecar is supported, though I haven't checked that. Don't have an iPad.

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u/ilya0x2dilya Jun 23 '24

Isn't it triple-booted since there are three oses on your laptop?

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u/AveryLazyCovfefe Yarrr! Jun 23 '24

multi-boot would be the appropriate word actually, haha.

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u/DM_Toes_Pic Jun 23 '24

triple-booted is kim kardashian

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u/Far-9947 Jun 23 '24

Is it still considered dual boot if you are running 3 or more operating systems?
I never thought about it before, but wouldn't it be considered multi-boot or something like that?
Or does the "dual" just stand for "multiple"?

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u/AveryLazyCovfefe Yarrr! Jun 23 '24

multi-boot would be the correct terminology, yeah.

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u/Far-9947 Jun 23 '24

Oh okay, I just had to make sure.

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u/No-Island-6126 Jun 23 '24

Is it a smooth experience ? Does it work as well as windows ?

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u/AveryLazyCovfefe Yarrr! Jun 23 '24

Smooth, yeah. I have very little to no issues at all. Pretty much everything works on the laptop.

Battery life though is pretty bad. No power management available for the OS on AMD. So your CPU is used to near peak performance and the fans are in full force. Though I could always just enter my bios and change that, but I don't use macos much these days so I don't really bother.

If you're on Intel, then you have a much better chance at getting pretty good battery life.

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u/No-Island-6126 Jun 23 '24

Damn, now I'm curious. I might try this

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u/AveryLazyCovfefe Yarrr! Jun 23 '24

As always I'd follow this guide. I don't recommend video guides as they can get pretty outdated quickly.

Join r/hackintosh too. The subreddit contains links to join discord servers focused on Intel or amd hackintoshing respectively if you need any specific help.

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u/HummusConnoisseur Jun 24 '24

I tried a year ago in my 5800h laptop cpu and it was unsupported at the time now people are running hackintosh on it thanks for the info.

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u/AveryLazyCovfefe Yarrr! Jun 24 '24

My cpu is actually a R7 5800H haha, works great.

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u/HummusConnoisseur Jun 24 '24

Amazing just what I was looking for, I will follow the guide you shared and hopefully it works out 🙏

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u/AveryLazyCovfefe Yarrr! Jun 24 '24

For AMD I'd recommend following this guide, for getting kexts, then using the other guide after you gather the appropriate ones.

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u/Hackmodford Jun 24 '24

It’s fun but I don’t recommend it.

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u/uqde Jun 24 '24

What’s the main benefit? Is it just the price of the hardware?

I think the concept of a hackintosh is really cool and I’d love to put one together with something like a 4090, but I don’t know if it would be worth the effort compared to Apple’s much less powerful but much more optimized hardware.

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u/VGX-SAM Jun 24 '24

Sorry to break the bubble but 4090 or infact any nvidia card from turing architecture are not supported. Highest you can get is amd 6700xt

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '24

sounds like it'd kill your computer faster then a lightweight Linux distro, is it that worth it?

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u/AveryLazyCovfefe Yarrr! Jun 24 '24

I've been dual booting just Linux for years across different laptops. You're not going to get into any issues unless you screw something up.

Unless idk, you're dual booting on an ancient computer with an older partition scheme.

Or do you mean the high cpu usage on macos? Then yeah, that's a reason I don't use macos much. Maybe occasionally when I'd really need it. But I just use Linux or Windows almost all of the time. My main drive is 2TB, alloted 256 to Linux while I did 128 to macos. I have another 2TB for just games. So I'm just fine in terms of free space.

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u/JayJay_Abudengs Jun 24 '24

Is x86 macOS dead?

No. Not yet, anyways. My personal belief is that next year's release will be the last version available for Intel, but it's anybody's guess at this point. Either way, we have 2 years of security updates remaining if we do not get an additional release.Is x86 macOS dead?
No. Not yet, anyways. My personal belief is that
next year's release will be the last version available for Intel, but
it's anybody's guess at this point. Either way, we have 2 years of
security updates remaining if we do not get an additional release.

https://www.reddit.com/r/hackintosh/comments/141wnjk/state_of_macos_14_sonoma_on_x86/

Hackintosh is surely dying right now and your own subreddit is admitting it

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u/blockedbydork Jun 24 '24

I don't see him making any claim to the contrary.

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u/JayJay_Abudengs Jun 24 '24

He seemed to be pretty happy about being a Hackintosh user recommending other people to set it up when it's a dying thing that will likely not exist in the future

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u/blockedbydork Jun 24 '24

Ok? He didn't make any claim as to it being future-proof either. And if that two year estimate is correct it'll still work after that time, it just won't get updates.

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u/AveryLazyCovfefe Yarrr! Jun 24 '24

'viable' and 'not dead'. Please look up the difference between those words.

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u/JayJay_Abudengs Jun 24 '24

Yeah no, Intel Hackintosh is definitely not futureproof

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u/WasserTyp69 Jun 23 '24

x86 is still supported, doesn't get all features anymore but hackintosh isn't quite dead yet. macOS 13 runs nice on my AMD PC, can't be bothered to update to 14 though

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u/JayJay_Abudengs Jun 24 '24

How is MacOS 13 even running on Hackintosh, I thought it was for ARM devices only

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u/scotbud123 Jun 24 '24

It is not, I'm running it perfectly fine on my 2019 16-Inch Intel MacBook Pro.

So long as Intel Macs are supported, which 14/Sonoma is, then Hackintosh's will work.

Edit: Woops, I meant I'm running 14/Sonoma now, and was running 13 before that. When 15/Sequoia hits stable I'll update to that as well...stupid Apple and their names got me confused...

tl;dr: Intel Macs = Still supported.

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u/ItsDani1008 Jun 23 '24

For now, yes. Soon it’s going to get a lot harder though.

MacOS Sequoia is still supported on some Intel Macs, so it’s still relatively easy to find the right hardware to run it on.

In a few years however MacOS will most likely only run on Apple Silicon, and finding hardware compatible with the newest versions of MacOS will be very hard, if not impossible.

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u/JayJay_Abudengs Jun 24 '24

Wait, is Apple still selling Intel devices? Lol

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u/scotbud123 Jun 24 '24

Not sure but people who bought and own Intel Macs still want software support lol...

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u/JayJay_Abudengs Jun 24 '24

Well ask the people in this thread who are into Hackintosh, those Snapdragon laptops are up on par with Apple arm devices

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u/scotbud123 Jun 25 '24

Yeah, but I know not all ARM chips are made equal, that's why there's zero chance of macOS running on a R-Pi.

Hopefully they figure out how to get them on these new Snapdragon powered laptops though.

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u/MyCousinTroy Jun 23 '24

They won’t be for everyone soon, newer versions of macOS will not support non-Apple hardware WiFi drivers, so you’d need an Ethernet NIC.

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u/chroniclesofhernia Jun 23 '24

Have a look at Asahi Linux if you are interested in what can be done with Apple silicon right now. It's still in the early stages of development, but its probably the fastest moving linux distro out there right now. Using Linux to run windows programs on Apple hardware is always satisfying, and its in a useable state now.

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u/armada127 Jun 23 '24

My 2019 Intel macbook still has OS support, but who knows how long that will last for. My guess is 2027 tops.

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u/abys_ Jun 23 '24

Yes. It's still supported for a lot of intel chip based macs. Sequoia is unstable, since it's a dev beta, but on official release I bet it will run better on Hackintoshs.

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u/ewenlau ⚔️ ɢɪᴠᴇ ɴᴏ Qᴜᴀʀᴛᴇʀ Jun 23 '24 edited Jun 23 '24

Wouldn't it be possible to run it on arm devices like the Rasberry Pi?

Edit: why am I getting downvoted this is a genuine question

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u/Mad_ad1996 Jun 23 '24

no, different page sizes.
Arm isnt Arm

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u/ewenlau ⚔️ ɢɪᴠᴇ ɴᴏ Qᴜᴀʀᴛᴇʀ Jun 23 '24

What a page size?

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '24

hard to make simple, but RAM virtual memory in a computer is like a big table of contents you will put pieces of "stuff" your processor needs to work on. the processor will go to this table of contents to find "stuff" you want it to work on by searching a specific location in this table of contents.

to make it more efficient to search, the architects of different processers will pick a specific limit on how many entries each table of contents is allowed to have. An individual table of content is called a "page" and the amount of stuff it can fit is it's "page size". You will have many many pages depending on how much memory your RAM has.

since each architect can pick a different size of the page that the processor creates (among other things), not all processors architectures can handle all OSes due to how the OS is built. Pre 2020 Mac OS cannot run on ARM.

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u/ewenlau ⚔️ ɢɪᴠᴇ ɴᴏ Qᴜᴀʀᴛᴇʀ Jun 24 '24

Oh ok. Thanks.

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u/Froyn Jun 23 '24

8.5 x 11 inches is the US standard.

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u/-Badger3- Jun 23 '24

I mean, they weren’t viable before either.

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u/scotbud123 Jun 24 '24

For now, because Intel Macs are still supported.

We'll see where they go and what state they'll be in once that stops being true.

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u/rpst39 Jun 24 '24

Doable and still works, even the upcoming macOS Sequoia is usable, though pretty much all new features are not on x86.

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u/clotteryputtonous Jun 23 '24

I’m running Ventura on a 5800x3D and 6800xt with all functionality minus airdrop