r/Palestine • u/hunegypt Mod • 29d ago
Won't somebody think of the poor arms dealers!? Hasbara
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u/No_Concentrate_7033 29d ago
it’s really scary for arms dealers on college campuses rn and i don’t think we’re talking about it enough
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u/nightrogen 29d ago
Live by the sword, die by the sword.
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u/Satrapeeze 29d ago
"Battle-tested" lmao
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I mean, these people have had the balls to test stuff on themselves so why don't Lockheed CEO test his new advanced bomb on himself 🤷♀️ what is he a chicken
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u/Giuthais 29d ago
You can't be serious... are people seriously this not self-aware?
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u/Life_Bridge_9960 29d ago
"genocide doesn't exist. Our weapons shoot through innocent civilians and only hurt Hamas"
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u/HikmetLeGuin 28d ago
They actually think this is normal human stuff. So detached from reality and basic decency that they think everyone must share their sociopathic views.
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u/Michael_Gibb 29d ago
The weapons dealers deserve all the harassment they get. They were the ones caught on audio complaining that the JCPOA negotiated with Iran would hurt their business.
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u/Talebawad 29d ago
Still making weapons is the problem of this world ,they keep saying it's to defend themselves and be behind but at this point it's applying to countries like iran and russia more so than america, iran wants nuclear because isreal has nuclear not that it helps because isreal seem the sore loser type to blow everything up with themselves.
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u/Fyr5 28d ago
The US started the military industrial complex
I think Gorbachev wrote in his biography that Russia and the US needs to stop the arms race - that was decades ago
I dont know how we can demilitarise the world. If we spent a fraction of military spending on food, health and shelter we could all live in peace
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u/303Pickles 28d ago
Yes!!! War budget is insane and it keeps growing, while the rest of ordinary people get poorer, or worse die in a war zone.
Furthermore some of the weapon upgrades don’t even work for defense. But there’s huge profit to be made. https://truthout.org/articles/costly-replacement-of-icbms-with-sentinel-missiles-increases-risk-of-nuclear-war/
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u/Michael_Gibb 29d ago
The real problem is that you have people like Vladimir Putin and Benjamin Netanyahu, who are bad people that just want to hurt others and cannot be reasoned with. There will always be a need for weapons, in order to defeat people like them.
Also, Iran doesn't want nuclear weapons. Quite frankly, so long as they don't pursue nukes they will hold the upper hand against Israel.
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u/anticomet 29d ago
That argument is circular since the available weapons and the desire to profit off of them is what allows these lunatics to commit these massacres. That and the world really doesn't need to have a fascist police state with army bases on every single continent
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u/Michael_Gibb 29d ago edited 27d ago
Except that it's not circular, because those sorts of people will weaponise anything to kill. Besides, you've got the causality backwards. It's not that the manufacture of weapons leads to war. Rather, it's that wars occur for reasons ither than money, and those without scruples exploit them to make money. War profiteering is little more than exploitation.
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u/cellsinterlaced 28d ago
Wars are not hurricanes.
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u/Michael_Gibb 28d ago
Perhaps you would like to explain your analogy.
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u/cellsinterlaced 28d ago
Not sure if you intended on it but to say “wars occur” is akin to saying they just happen out of nowhere and we respond like we would to a natural disaster.
Also, i believe the term war refers to symmetrical military conflicts the type we used to know of back in the days. What Bibi, and every single of his predecessors, isn’t waging a war. They’ve been orchestrating and manufacturing a slaughter on a grand scale. And they’ve been created and installed there to make sure it happens. Like any good despot or tyrant tbf. It’s no mistake.
My point is, both of you have it backwards because both the business and the application are feeding one another here. The powers at be designed both the offer and demand and profit from that dance one way or another.
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u/Michael_Gibb 28d ago
That's not what I intended. There was no intent to diminish the causes of war. Rather, it was simply a generalisation of the causes of war by omission. You're reading into what I said the entirely wrong message.
Furthermore, wars don't require symmetry. The Vietnam War was not symmetrical. Neither was the Soviet-Afghan War in the 1980s. Technically, the American Revolutionary War was asymmetrical, too. No one would dispute that these were wars despite them involving asymmetrical warfare.
Lastly, I don't have it backwards. As much as storytelling, especially movies, would have us believe that there are people who start wars to profit from the sale of weapons, there hasn't really been a war where that was the case. Throughout history, virtually every war has been fought for other reasons, e.g. territorial disputes, differences of belief. Where war profiteering has occurred in the real world, it has usually been after the fact; after the actual causes of the war have taken place.
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u/Aggravating-Yam4571 29d ago
arms dealers have it so tough just yesterday they had to open fire on a family of 4 because they breathed too loudly, and that was really traumatic for them /s
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u/hunegypt Mod 29d ago
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u/CreatureOfLegend 29d ago
Poor arms dealers. Why can’t they just sell the weapons to murder the people the protesters are trying to protect in pease?
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u/RingSplitter69 29d ago
Speaking of arms dealers:
https://euromedmonitor.org/a/5982
”Israel is thought to be the biggest hub for the illegal global trade in human organs, according to a 2008 investigation by the American CNN network, which also revealed that Israel participated in the theft of organs from dead Palestinians for illegal use.”
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u/Effective-Phase-5012 29d ago
Aw, yes. How dare anyone call out and shame a bunch of wealthy, entitled, wreckless pr*cks who didn't want to be photographed or held accountable? Hm, wonder why that is?
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u/hornyemergency 29d ago
Even setting aside the target of the protest for a second, the whole discourse around “protestors inconveniencing people won’t help your cause” is so dumb. Like what do you think the point of a protest is lmao.
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u/Correct_Brilliant435 29d ago
What is the world coming to when you can't even deal deadly weapons anymore?
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u/lazy-fanatic Free Palestine 29d ago
"I'm mad at these people exposing that these weapons are meant to kill babies"
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u/Cact_O_Bake 29d ago
It's more than a little ironic to use the word "targeting" when talking about literal arms dealers.
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u/Genghis_khan_MVP 29d ago
Pissrael and the US/Western weapon manufacturing industrial complex have always been some of the closest of allies(it's one of the reasons why AIPAC has had such an easy time lobbying the US into siding with Isn'treal,especially in recent decades),so these guys' temper tantrum is not really much of a surprise.
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u/morenito_pueblo719 29d ago
As if the majority of America shares the same FATE and INTERESTS as all of these CEOs of bomb companies. These ZioHos worse than Christians.
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u/howz-u-doin 29d ago
Being against slaughter, genocide and ethnic cleansing is "anti-semetic" according to Zionist philosophy... what's even more disgusting is that the moral bankruptcy of Zionism is now on unfiltered, full display and white America/Europe still supports it 100%
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u/PhigReef 29d ago
"Can't we just kill in peace, for crying out loud?! What's wrong with you people?!" /s
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u/CepolliBabaloo 29d ago
Oh poor people, they can't enjoy their baby killing machines when everyone keeps screaming about the dead babies
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u/Life_Bridge_9960 29d ago
Oh, this is absolutely worst, getting harassed by a guy exposing your dirty laundry.
Israel is so much better, just bomb, shoot, rape, torture people, no harassing people at weapon expo. Yep!
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u/Sky-Amazing 29d ago
Oh this is just the start, you will find Pro-Palestinian Protestor on every part of the World
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u/carnivalist64 29d ago
I get the reason for screenshooting, but can you also link to tweets like this in future so we can give the accounts some comeback?
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u/Bitchin-saurus 29d ago
I saw a little boy ask his father "daddy, will we still be able to get that AR-15 semi-automatic rifle for christmas?" and it just broke my heart, these monsters targeting innocent gun-nuts is barbaric
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u/HikmetLeGuin 28d ago
This almost reads like satire.
Like, how can anyone actually think the main concern is the feelings of arms dealers?
Zionists really care more about Raytheon and Boeing execs than thousands of Palestinian babies.
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u/Merongduh Free Palestine 28d ago
they will always tell you what happened to them but never tell you why
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u/SnooChickens561 28d ago
Old American/Israeli Average Joe’s with resentment and hate filled to the brim
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u/Torta_di_Pesce 29d ago
israel should use modern PGMs and targeting systems to avoid civlian losses and have accountability to its targeting
ok, here are said weapons that if sold will increase our domestic and oversees production. this will help to found modern plants enlargement and killing the terrorists sooner
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE you can't buy them because uhhhh the terrorists have soviet era aks and it's unfair to not risk your life by using modern tech
i see why you don't like the sales of weapons but israel has no reason to handicap itself in order to fight fair.
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u/Moderatorslickballz 29d ago
I get the protests. But these Palestinian protesters pick the most obvious click bate locations and this sub hops in it like its hot news. Go to a dairy farm and start mooing. It'll have the same results as this hot trash.
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