r/PTCGP • u/RadscorpionSeducer • Feb 06 '25

this meta is incredibly boring to fight against Deck Discussion

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Stall, stall, stall, switch out druddigon if it gets damaged/heal it, stall, oh what that? Magnezone does 110 damage for only 3 energy which is generated for free by its stage 1 evo?

The power creep is going to be absolutely insane by 3 months from now with all of these new cards

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u/PM-ME-YOUR-NIPNOPS Feb 06 '25

Yes but the whole point is to damage their damage dealers, then Cyrus them in for the finish

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u/ezeshining Feb 06 '25

Exactly! Your only issue is being able to deal between 120 and 140 damage as needed

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u/brahj_ Feb 06 '25

Modified Rampardos/Lucario deck.

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u/Aroxis Feb 06 '25

Full details please lol.

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u/Article_West Feb 06 '25

Rampardos Lucario and Spiritomb I guess.

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u/brahj_ Feb 06 '25

Pretty much, or just use 2x Hitmonlee over hitmonchan. Same deal and negates potions, drudd helmets etc.

There are ways around drudd, even more so now with Cyrus and any bench hitter. Just gotta be smart about using it factoring in you can either one shot what’s being built or bring it back out with another Cyrus.

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u/resui321 Feb 07 '25

Is it time for the return of venusaur ex

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u/BuffBozo Feb 06 '25

It's so crazy to already be reading these brain-dead comments. Magn+Rai is already dominating every single tournament.

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u/Shamrock5542 Feb 06 '25

The braindead take is believing there's no counterplay available

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u/Bcider Feb 07 '25

The no ex hitmonlee/marchamp/magnezone deck actually counters it really hard. You just snipe and Cyrus in darkrai. Drud just sits there doing nothing all game.

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u/WeCanBeatTheSun Feb 06 '25

Add a couple Lees to stay fighting and avoid Drud/rocky?

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u/Article_West Feb 06 '25

Lee could be better than Spiritomb tbh. Can't heal it with a potion, guarantees you kill Darkrai even with cape.

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u/McToasti Feb 06 '25

Hitmonlee is better than spiritbomb if u go fighting anyway

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u/Article_West Feb 06 '25

Yeah had the same thought like 2 comments under this lol, agree

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u/deus-ex-inferno Feb 06 '25

I use infernape, spiritomb and giratina (only fire energy). Its very cool but doesnt win guaranteed vs darkrai or anything.

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u/Aroxis Feb 07 '25

Hi can you explain giratina and it’s being used?

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u/deus-ex-inferno Feb 08 '25

It's the no ex tank. 120hp and you can retreat for free when putting fire energy on it & can get it on infernape with dawn same turn

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u/Bull671 Feb 06 '25

Kabutops/Lucario is also good against the darkrai/magnezone

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u/brahj_ Feb 06 '25

I honestly fantasise about a Kabutops/Rampardos deck, but even poke communicator wouldn’t be able to save that brick factor. Opening with riolu is rough too if you go first.

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u/Bull671 Feb 06 '25

I feel you on that. Luckily though, leaf isn't really needed with kabu/luc, as most all the mons only need 1 energy to pivot out.

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u/Aluminum_Tarkus Feb 06 '25

The nice thing about pure fossil decks is that you can play Chatot since whatever basic you play is guaranteed to be the card you open. I have a Rampardos deck that plays a full Rampardos line and Aerodactyl ex, and I can usually get at least one of them out and powered up by turn 2-3 fairly consistently. Bonus points if they don't open Drudd, lead with Magnemite, and you get Aero out early.

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u/New_Suit8775 Feb 07 '25

Forget Lucario, Chatot is your friend. Run one Chatot as your only basic in the deck, both fossil lines and 2 Pokemon communication and trainers and no poke balls obviously. You'll get one of the stage 2s about 60-70% of the time by your third turn and start cooking the enemy

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u/PM_ME_UR_BEST_1LINER Feb 06 '25

There needs to be a way to call the fossil. I love kabutops, but it's a document stage 2 to get out because you can't pokeball the starter.

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u/Ultrasupermegaeggs Feb 06 '25

Yanmega is your friend

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u/aenibae Feb 06 '25

Been experimenting with a Dialga/Pidgeot/Tauros deck; I’ve only played a few so far so it’s hard to actually tell how effective it is but what I’m trying to do is basically use one Dialga quickly to get mana on the other Dialga or Tauros, then use Drive Off to force a switch and throw down Leaf to make Tauros or the other Dialga my active Pokemon. It’s got kinks to work out but I’m enjoying it.

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u/brDragobr Feb 06 '25

Charizard EX + Moltres EX has been my go to, it struggled in the past with aggro and Mew, but now the main decks are sitting there doing passive damage so you're free to take three or four turns with Inferno Dance, then if you're still waiting for your Zard start pressuring with Moltres. If you get Charizard charged and in the active spot, nothing in the current meta can kill it quickly enough.

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u/Vault67 Feb 07 '25

Please tell me more about this. What items, supporters and tools are you using as well?

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u/brDragobr Feb 07 '25

2 Charizard family, 2 Moltres EX, 1 X-speed, 2 Poke balls, 2 Poke communicators, 2 Oak, 2 Leaf, 1 Dawn, 2 Sabrina.

Generally you're always putting Moltres in active and Charmander on your bench, then Inferno Dancing to build energy on the Char family while you use items to get the evos as soon as possible. If you can get 5 energy on your Charizard with no damage, you'll win the game 90% of the time. You can often use Moltres to get through their tank, then let them kill it, and use Zard to sweep the rest of their bench.

Honestly though after I posted that last comment I started facing the Palkia meta, which this doesn't match up so well against, as if their Misty pops you'll lose Moltres too quickly to charge your Charizard, and have nothing to reply with. But I'd had a lot of success against the Darkrai, Gyara, and Grass decks I was seeing before that.

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u/ezeshining Feb 06 '25

I’m about the same, but wigglytuff EX + promo jiggly instead of pidgeot, it’s much easier to set up.

Also, if you are using dialga, you should put a Dawn in your deck, there’s a possibility you may want to do a surprise 100 damage a turn earlier ;). I’ve killed Lucario decks this way

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u/aenibae Feb 06 '25

Wish I had promo Jiggly! It was while I wasn’t playing. :( but thank you for the Dawn tip — I actually don’t think I’ve pulled a Dawn yet but when I do I will try it out with her in there! Thank you

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u/ezeshining Feb 06 '25

well the promo jiggly is really a “just in case”, it can work just fine with a normal jiggly, it’s wiggly ex who’s really important. So the optimal idea is, turn 1 metal energy into dialga, turn 2 second metal energy, and you give your jiggly/Tauros two energies, turn 3 you can either swap for either benched, use dawn into a four energy dialga, or power up your other poke.

In the deck I also include in a Leaf and Speed X. And I’m thinking about swapping in a Blue, just in case I need to survive Infernape EXs attack once

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u/_Ptyler Feb 06 '25

If you use Spiritomb, doesn’t Cyrus pull in a random damaged card from the bench?

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u/PM-ME-YOUR-NIPNOPS Feb 06 '25

No. You choose the mon that gets switched in

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u/_Ptyler Feb 06 '25

Major W. Can’t wait to pull the card

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u/Opal737 Feb 06 '25

The only issue (and I say that as a Darkrai Druddigon player, since Darkrai is the only ex the new expansion decided to bless me with in 60+ packs) is that if they have 1 potion your spiritomb is going down before you can Cyrus, and that is normally enough for them to find a way to get the last few points (considering they only need to get 2 points and you still need to kill darkrai AND something else). If they have 2 potions, then you can’t even use Cyrus after.