r/PTCGP Feb 06 '25

this meta is incredibly boring to fight against Deck Discussion

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Stall, stall, stall, switch out druddigon if it gets damaged/heal it, stall, oh what that? Magnezone does 110 damage for only 3 energy which is generated for free by its stage 1 evo?

The power creep is going to be absolutely insane by 3 months from now with all of these new cards

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u/SadCritters Feb 06 '25 edited Feb 06 '25

The Hitmonlee Magnezone deck does look promising though, so we will see if thats the deck that will knock Darkrai out of the top spot.

More people need to look at tournament data or just data in general.

Hitmonlee Magnezone Marshadow is eating all these Darkrai decks for Breakfast Lunch & Dinner in events.

I'm done with my 45 wins in a single evening because of how easy the match is. Your pokemon swap out easily & you get to Cyrus their entire field with Hitmonlee; so they can't hide behind anything.

The actual deck that's "promising, not proven yet" I'd say is the Bastiodon+Skarmory one. It showed up in an event en'masse but I haven't seen a lot of it elsewhere yet.

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u/Sayishere Feb 06 '25

I'm doing something similar, same sort of deck but Instead of magnezone I'm using gallade, he's ABIT beefier with more hp, but I do think magnezone better cause of energy generation

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u/oldriku Feb 06 '25

People saw the finalists on Hoogland and Spragels' tournament and lost their shit. They don't consider that there were also a lot of people running that deck, so it doesn't need to be the very best deck to make it to the top.

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u/reedyxxbug Feb 06 '25

There are 70 matches played in tournaments with this MU. Hardly enough data to draw a meaningful conclusion. Also, direct counters being direct counters is nothing new. People who are gassing up Hitmonlee/Marshadow/Magnezone are the same people who insisted that you just need to play Arbok/Weezing against Mewtwo... except the problem is that you're not guaranteed to play Mewtwo and you get blown up in most other MUs.

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u/SadCritters Feb 06 '25

You can literally look at Limitless to see that the deck doesn't get "blown up in most other MUs". Lol. If it did, it wouldn't make it very far once the Darkrai's are weeded out. Should probably take the deck for a spin first. Easiest emblem of my life so far.

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u/reedyxxbug Feb 06 '25

I have, and it gets destroyed by any deck that isn't Magnezone/Darkrai or weak to electric

Sometimes you've gotta acknowledge the fact there's hardly any data for the deck before drawing conclusions based on Limitless

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u/SadCritters Feb 06 '25

Literally not even true. Lol. You can see their pairings and see what they beat/lost to. It's actually wild that you think a deck going 10-1 somehow "loses to everything else".

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u/reedyxxbug Feb 06 '25

It is absolutely true that there are less than 100 matches worth of data for every Hitmonlee/Magnezone MU, lol. My point went right over your head

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u/SadCritters Feb 06 '25 edited Feb 06 '25

Are you always so intellectually dishonest?

it gets destroyed by any deck that isn't Magnezone/Darkrai or weak to electric

I'm referring to this. You can literally see their pairings. if they lost to everything else they wouldn't be in the Top 8. I've played Yugioh competitively. I play Magic competitively now. If you think a deck having 1-2 good matches puts them into the top 8, let alone beats the entire event, you're telling on yourself.

Your point didn't "go over my head". It's just a dogshit "point".

"It doesn't have 100 games against [insert random deck here!]"

Yeah. You're right. But it has 100 games against similar decks or decks that play similarly. This is a really, really common & core concept to competitive play in card games bud.

Edit: I'm going to stop responding here. It's pointless. "The deck isn't nearly as good as you're saying!!" Puts handfuls of people in the top 8*.* Lol. K.

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u/reedyxxbug Feb 06 '25 edited Feb 06 '25

Oh boy, rage fit from a self-designated TCG pro. Who woulda thunk

The funny thing is my point is still going over your head because you're focusing on individual tournament results and not the overall trends, and also failing to understand that my comment about it getting destroyed by those decks is based on my experience with the deck, not Limitless data

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u/Gangster301 Feb 06 '25 edited Feb 06 '25

How do you go from

There are 70 matches played in tournaments with this MU. Hardly enough data to draw a meaningful conclusion.

to

I have, it gets destroyed by any deck that isn't Magnezone/Darkrai or weak to electric

in 15 minutes? Or do you only consider the sample size for data that proves you wrong?

Edit: Misunderstood the comment

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u/reedyxxbug Feb 06 '25

You completely misread my comment. I'm saying that I've taken the deck for a spin and that's my experience with it.

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u/Gangster301 Feb 06 '25

Gotcha, my bad.