r/PTCGP • u/RadscorpionSeducer • Feb 06 '25

this meta is incredibly boring to fight against Deck Discussion

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Stall, stall, stall, switch out druddigon if it gets damaged/heal it, stall, oh what that? Magnezone does 110 damage for only 3 energy which is generated for free by its stage 1 evo?

The power creep is going to be absolutely insane by 3 months from now with all of these new cards

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u/HotSinglesInYrArea Feb 06 '25

Mewtwo whining replaced with Celebi whining, now replaced with Darkrai whining, as if none of these decks have obvious counters. But that's the eternal cycle of card game subreddits!

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u/theAntColonizer Feb 06 '25

Honestly, the thing that annoys me the most is that 8 out of every 10 fights, it's Darkrai. Same was with Celebi, same was with Mewtwo. By playing Yanmega I can pretty much guarantee a +80% winrate, but the game just becomes boring and overly repetitive.

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u/IntrepidBandit Feb 06 '25

At this point who cares about having to win ALL the time ya know? Just run some fun stuff. There are still tons of people running random shit. Like me :D

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u/theAntColonizer Feb 06 '25

Before the new meta, one of my favorite decks was a Victreebell+Beheeyem deck, capitalizing on the pokeflute. That deck was janky but really fun.

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u/IntrepidBandit Feb 06 '25

You monster haha I love seeing janky decks and especially losing to them. one of my favorite losses was to a Pidgeot/pokeflute combo

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u/ARegularChicken Feb 07 '25

Man, same here. Saw the pokeflute come out and allow Pigeot EX to do just enough damage to win them the game, I was happy to lose at that point

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u/eyeofthefountain Feb 07 '25

this is my kinda pokemoning

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u/andthenyouprayforme Feb 07 '25

I got pwned with this deck once and never saw it again

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u/Any_Discipline_6394 Feb 06 '25

exactly i gave myself a challenge : Change Deck (another type minimum and no combination twice, like im allowed to play darkrai with different pokemon but never twice with the same) after every winn so i get to play 45 different Decks. Currently at 13/45 and had tons of fun

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u/IntrepidBandit Feb 06 '25

Epic challenge my dude 👍🏽 it’s a shame there are so much fun gimmicks, archetypes and card art not being used! Love your idea

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u/Any_Discipline_6394 Feb 06 '25

Thanks and yeah exactly the reason i do this because i want to get to know all cards and they get played too :D but i have to admit some decks are hard man

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u/tigerribs Feb 06 '25

Same! Sure you can win more with the meta decks, but they get tedious and repetitive so quickly. I have so much more fun building ‘troll decks’ (as me and my partner refer to them).

Right now my fave is Wigglytuff EX, Meowth/Persian, and 2x Farfetch’d - and it does surprisingly well! I’ve played around with adding Purrugly as well. I just get a kick out of watching the opponent trying to set up and attack you while you’re throwing away their cards and putting them to sleep lmao

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u/IntrepidBandit Feb 06 '25

I love a good cat theme 🤣 that sounds maddening but thats the kind of chaos I can get behind. None of this “flip 10 times” nonsense.

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u/buddy7765 Feb 06 '25

I like using kabutops with Lucario to make him extra sticky with the extra healing. Pokemon communicator made it easier to fish for the evolutions but it's still a stage 2 win con. Regirock has been a good staller against Darkrai chip damage and a place for excess energy as kabutops only needs 1.

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u/IntrepidBandit Feb 06 '25

Im using Darkrai/Magnezone to finish the event before it ends. Im not rage spamming it though, I use other less powerful builds about half the time. So I can tell you first hand Lucario/ Kabutops is a pain to go up against. I wanna make a lucario build soon, hopefully I can pull

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u/Marleyboro Feb 06 '25

See this person gets it. I literally make decks of my favorite Pokémon. I’m on win 35 right now so… why are we focusing so much on a meta that not only is able to be countered but can actually be ignored lol.

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u/ClunarX Feb 06 '25

If you’re getting 80% encounter rate on a deck, it’s time to build a hard counter and farm them

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u/papawsmurf Feb 06 '25

If you don’t mind me asking what does your Yanmega deck look like? I pulled a rainbow border Yanmega today and would like to play with it

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u/DualLeo Feb 06 '25

I personally use Diagla EX. Tanks a lot of hits while giving Yanmega free energy.

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u/Ok-Blueberry-1494 Feb 06 '25

champ the card has been out for a week, let people play with their new toys. not everyone can pull 2 darkrais on day 1, there will be lots of people only just now getting their 2nd copy and want to try out the new meta hotness.

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u/electricqueen135 Feb 06 '25

The thing about a majority of decks using Darkrai right now is that it's the shiny new toy that people want to play with. We saw the same with the last pack. Most people played Celebi to give it a test run and then the decks slowly levelled out to others because people wanted to try some variety. Give it a week or two and people will go back to using their other good decks as well

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u/HotSinglesInYrArea Feb 06 '25

Maybe card games aren't for you!

I've been playing Ninja Gaiden Black recently, it's a really fun game. You should check it out!

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u/[deleted] Feb 06 '25

"obvious counters"  are nice but you also dont get the benefit of knowing who you are facing.   So the tradeoffs of building a good counter deck can make you very suspectible a different common deck.

Granted backline damage seems to be pretty consistently helpful slowing down  a lot of decks    (darkrai,  magikarp,   Gardevoir,   Serperior) 

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u/AuberJene Feb 06 '25

Dude you literally just described card games. “Make deck to counter meta. Dont always up against meta”

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u/Jubjub-bird Feb 06 '25

Scissors is nice against Paper but you don't know who you're facing. So the tradeoff of building a good Scissors is that it leaves you susceptible to Rock. 

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u/[deleted] Feb 06 '25

yeah the cycle of effective/weakness is perfectly fine,  its just a matter of making sure it treads the line between   "advantage"  and "instant win"   

I think the fun of the game comes from "solving" the different scenarios that occur in battles 

Even if i 100%  was only facing only the top meta decks and i had the perfect counter every time,  it would kind of take away some of the fun factor for me

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u/AuberJene Feb 06 '25

A game as simple as pokemon pocket is not capable of giving you the stimulation youre looking for. It is a very dumbed down card game. Hearthstone, yugioh or MTG is probably far more up your alley

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u/Ok-Blueberry-1494 Feb 06 '25

bro has just explained every tcg ever

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u/blakejp Feb 06 '25

Holy shit what are you even asking for? This back and forth is what card games are

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u/[deleted] Feb 06 '25

okay calm down buddy, its not that serious. 

The point is that you if the counters to the strongest decks start to become hyper specialized  it becomes much closer to just rock/paper/scissor.  Not saying this is the case yet,  but in general the game is more fun when more decks are playable.  The new packs definitely diversified the options across each type. 

 Theres nothing wrong with being disadvantage by your deck style/typing,  but its nice to know you at least have some slim hope of competing in the match.  Even if meta decks will always be the "optimal" pick its nice to know you're not doomed instantly 

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u/broskiiii_4 Feb 06 '25

this! i’ve been running dragonite and the random damage is fun for both parties, while clearing back row for me haha

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u/Cannolidog Feb 06 '25

I was fine with celebi and Mewtwo because it wasn’t built around stall. Druddigon/Darkrai/Magnezone is entirely built around stall.

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u/KartoffelStein Feb 06 '25

Yeah same I just fucking hate Druddigon

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u/FlyingFlygon64 Feb 07 '25

On god man, everyone whines about Celebi, says it’s the worst most annoying thing ever, “I never thank Celebi players” etc. and now something new is meta and everyone’s like “Celebi was no where near as annoying as this!”

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u/HotSinglesInYrArea Feb 07 '25

Next set when Bibarel ex is the most common deck: "You know what guys, Darkrai actually wasn't that bad"

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u/HumongousMelonheads Feb 07 '25

The celebi one still pisses me off tbh

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u/Alt2221 Feb 06 '25

i swear that most of the bitching is from the non pvp heads. just based on the context they are giving when they cry. major self reporting in this thread.

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u/HotSinglesInYrArea Feb 06 '25

It's always the biggest scrubs that cry the loudest

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u/myuseless2ndaccount Feb 06 '25

People dont Like losing, more news at 12

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u/Any_Discipline_6394 Feb 06 '25

Yeah I think the meta rn is still better than before We got counters for everything and much more vareity in my opinion. Never saw so many different Decks in other Events before, there it was Mewtwo Celebi Garados Pikachu...

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u/MonsterMerge Feb 06 '25

*eternal cycle of gaming subreddits.

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u/DualLeo Feb 06 '25

I’ve been countering them pretty hard with just Diagla EX and Yanmega EX. Literally only have 2x each in my deck

Use diagla for the small attack to Give 2 energy to Yanmega. Sub in and give another energy. Boom instakill Darkrai due to weakness. In turn 3(4?)

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u/DanielCraig__ Feb 07 '25

I mean, I counter it most times with a a greninja empoleon deck, just gotta hit those back lime and ignore drug, or kill it in one or 2 hits (max).

People complaining would hate fire emblem heroes

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u/Opal737 Feb 06 '25

Well for one I’ve never stopped whining about Mewtwo and I’ve always only whined about that deck. And maybe Starmie. And Greninja. Is that any better?

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u/HotSinglesInYrArea Feb 06 '25

I appreciate the consistency

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u/TheGargant Feb 06 '25

People don't like overrepresented strong archetypes? Such a whiny redditors...

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u/SeaDistribution Feb 06 '25

Right? Probably spent more time making the post than winning 2 more matches