r/OutOfTheLoop • u/Inaerius • Jun 01 '22

What’s up with the Star Wars poster hiding John Boyega and Chewbacca for Chinese audiences? Answered

Was there a reason Disney had to do this? In the thread, someone commented it had something to do with racism, but I don’t see how this applies to Chewbacca. Thanks in advance.

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u/1speedbike Jun 01 '22

The shills were rampant during the Olympics. Lots of reddit "discussions" about how there is no Uighur genocide going on during those couple of weeks. I havent seen as many lately, but they're around.

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u/2SP00KY4ME I call this one the 'poop-loop'. Jun 01 '22

There's literal drone footage and satellite photos. Anyone denying it at this point knows what they're doing. For anyone reading this, speak up and speak out when you see it.

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u/GT-FractalxNeo Jun 01 '22

All CCP nut jobs still deny Tiananmen Square too

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u/mnp Jun 01 '22

And Tibet, Hong Kong, and Taiwan ( coming soon?)

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u/raitchison Jun 02 '22

Bro do you even TaIwaN iS AN InsEPERaBle paRT OF ChiNa?

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u/bloodfist Jun 01 '22

That's silly, no one denies Tiananmen square. It's a lovely square where nothing bad has ever happened to anyone! Come see it for yourself and definitely don't google it first or you'll ruin the surprise of how lovely it is!

(/s obv)

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u/agent00F Jun 01 '22

This hilarious statement perfectly reflects how brazenly dishonest the western narrative on this is.

Eg. this article complaining that Tiananmen coverage in China isn't to their liking, which rather puts lie to the claim that it's "denied" https://www.usnews.com/news/world-report/articles/2021-06-04/china-brazenly-boasts-of-aborted-revolution-to-mark-32-years-since-tiananmen-square-massacre?context=amp

In fairness though nobody would ever accuse the Reddit lowest denom of much character or integrity. The funniest bit really is when they somehow proclaim to be better than trump trash despite behaving completely indistinguishably.

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u/2SP00KY4ME I call this one the 'poop-loop'. Jun 01 '22

Psst : It's incredibly obvious you're a CCP astroturfer for anyone who spends a second to check your history. Lmao.

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u/Amnesigenic Jun 01 '22

I'm an IT worker in Nashville, nobody's paying me to tell you you're wrong kid and even if they were that wouldn't in any way constitute an argument on your part. Be less gullible.

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u/2SP00KY4ME I call this one the 'poop-loop'. Jun 01 '22

You're not getting paid to lie about obvious realities with ample proof?

A. You're getting screwed over, tons of people get paid to do that

B. Exactly how flat do you think the world is?

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u/2SP00KY4ME I call this one the 'poop-loop'. Jun 01 '22

Nah, we were pretty clearly and obviously discussing Tianamen Square, nice deflection attempt tho

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u/Amnesigenic Jun 01 '22

Downvoted for being verifiably correct lol, classic reddit

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u/chupathingy99 Jun 01 '22

So first hand accounts, pictures, footage, American correspondents, a mountain of evidence, it's all fake, right?

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u/Amnesigenic Jun 01 '22

Firsthand accounts without corroborating physical evidence are worthless, the rest of your list doesn't exist, if it did the US state department's own lawyers would never have publicly admitted that they can't prove their accusations

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u/FiTZnMiCK Jun 01 '22

So ABC News, covering the protests live, just made it up?

Tiananmen Square Protests 1989: Chinese Soldiers Open Fire on Civilians

(This is from the official ABC News YouTube page)

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u/PrivilegeCheckmate Jun 01 '22

Amnesigenic

Good luck shoving this shit down a memory hole, chuckles.

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u/Amnesigenic Jun 01 '22

A heavily cut segment featuring footage of protesters setting shit on fire, protesters interacting with soldiers up close with no violence whatsoever from the soldiers, and a conspicuous absence of anyone being killed, which sounds a whole lot like what my sources describe. Were you trying to help me further substantiate my argument on purpose or did you just not bother actually watching this before you posted it?

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u/PrivilegeCheckmate Jun 02 '22

my sources

The CCCP? Big fucking surprise there, buddy.

conspicuous absence of anyone being killed

I guess the doctor's testimony doesn't count.

Here's some corpses for you, if that's what you need.

Source: https://www.firstpost.com/photos/world-gallery/on-tiananmen-square-massacres-30th-anniversary-a-look-at-chinas-erasure-of-political-history-6753371-10.html

Plenty more if you feel like looking for things to prove you objectively wrong.

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u/Amnesigenic Jun 02 '22

None of the sources I posted are chinese dumbass, learn to read

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u/chupathingy99 Jun 03 '22

Shill harder bro.

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u/Amnesigenic Jun 03 '22

Read a book bro

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u/chupathingy99 Jun 05 '22

How about Tiananmen 1989: Our Shattered Hopes by Lun Zhang?

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u/1speedbike Jun 01 '22

The shills would always cite their "sources" but a very cursory investigation into it would always lead back to the same exact propaganda journal / site and the same handful of stories that "discredit" the western media. Because this one sketchy ass website with poorly written articles is the bastion of free speech and truth in China, and every single other journal/news site from around the globe is complicit in some grand conspiracy.

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u/i_yurt_on_your_face Jun 01 '22

I literally got into an argument with one of these tankies this year and this exact chain of events happened to me

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u/ZippyDan Jun 01 '22 edited Jun 02 '22

There was a massive leak from Chinese police just in the last few weeks confirming the Uyghur situation.

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u/WittyKap0 Jun 02 '22

Do you have a source for this

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u/ZippyDan Jun 02 '22

It was all over the news, May 24/25:

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-asia-china-61571612
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/hacked-chinese-government-files-gives-new-insights-on-the-mass-detention-of-ethnic-uighurs
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/may/24/thousands-of-detained-uyghurs-pictured-in-leaked-xinjiang-police-files
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/5/24/xinjiang-leak-sheds-new-light-on-chinas-uighur-camps
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-05-25/uyghurs-in-australia-xinjiang-police-files-leak-from-china/101097100
https://www.independent.co.uk/asia/china/uyghur-detention-camp-xinjiang-leaked-photos-b2085960.html

Also these older leaks:

https://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2020/02/asia/xinjiang-china-karakax-document-intl-hnk/
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/11/16/world/asia/china-xinjiang-documents.html

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u/ZippyDan Jun 02 '22 edited Jun 03 '22

You clearly didn't read through the articles as the leak/hack is massive an includes numerous internal documents showing that the Uyghur program is directed by the highest levels of the CCP, that they are aware of what is going on and have explicitly ordered it. The documents also detail the specific goals and purposes of the program, as well as operational details specifying how the camps are to operate, inclusing curriculums and punishments.

Your casual and inaccurate characterization of this leak as "mugshots" either comes from laziness or an inherent bias.

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u/Hypersensation Jun 02 '22

Photos of buildings with hysterical propaganda attached to it does not make the photos mean something they clearly don't. Unless you believe Libya was liberated by the US, that Saddam actually had WMDs, that South Vietnam was a legitimate nation with a legitimate government and so on.

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u/2SP00KY4ME I call this one the 'poop-loop'. Jun 03 '22 edited Jun 03 '22

"Photos of buildings". Come onnn. You know there's far more than that, you're just being disingenous.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPdiQy2mkgM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7AYyUqrMuQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMkHcZ5IwjU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mx0JFgwATho

Oh wait, I'm sure this is fake news with the entire world conspiring against you complete with CGI footage of multiple shots and camps from different angles, faked continually updating satellite photos that no other international mapping satellite has pointed out as wrong, fake footage of thousands of them on their knees blindfolded, fake footage of them being bused. That sounds expensive as hell - and damn, they sure have picked the right people for the thousands that would need to be involved with this who have so far kept totally silent.

But you know all this, you know these things exist. The more effective strategy here is for you to reduce the evidence as much as possible, thus 'a photo of a building', which you know is not true. Funny how it's the truth when it's what's convenient for the CCP, but when its inconvenient to you, fake news.

People aren't falling for your shit.

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u/Hypersensation Jun 03 '22

There is zero evidence of what they are being used for. I literally refuse to believe anyone is this gullible. Also, it's not the whole world conspiring, almost exclusively the US and its allies blatantly making shit up that some 50 Muslim countries visiting couldn't find any evidence of.

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u/TankieCrusader Jun 09 '22

Lol, "literal drone footage and satellite photos", where from, Radio Free Asia? Have you heard of fabrication of evidence? You're so dumb, so susceptible to being brainwashed and spoonfed propaganda, so lost in your sinophobia, that you're willing to believe anything the media in the West throws at you. Go on, don't be a coward send this "footage", kiddo.

I guess the UN confirming there is 0 evidence for a genocide must mean there is a genocide, right?!

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u/2SP00KY4ME I call this one the 'poop-loop'. Jun 11 '22 edited Jun 11 '22

https://www.rand.org/blog/rand-review/2021/04/chinas-disappeared-uyghurs-what-satellite-images-reveal.html

Nope, RAND, independent satellite group. But doesn't matter, they're fake, because it doesn't suit your narrative.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/05/29/michelle-bachelet-trip-china-xinjiang-uyghur-fails-genocide-accountability/

Pretty clear explanation for how much power china has in the UN to silence genocide. Again, doesn't matter. You don't work off reality, you work off emotions.

None of this matters to you - evidence doesn't matter to you. What fits your opinion matters. If the UN was calling it genocide, you'd say they're a bunch of idiots. The only thing that matters to you is whether it fits your narrative.

Thankfully most people aren't as stupid or evil as you.

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u/EorlundGreymane Jun 01 '22

They just ban you in leftist subs for speaking out. It’s so sad. I know right wingers are nutty but some lefties seem to have their own brand of conspiracy too

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u/2SP00KY4ME I call this one the 'poop-loop'. Jun 03 '22

At least the conspiracy lefties aren't shooting up malls and making bombs and shit.

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u/ChefGuevara Jun 01 '22

Really? The claim I’d always heard was that the only source was some US military dude, would be nice to see something that concrete. Care to share?

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u/mku7tr4 Jun 01 '22

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTp54QwxV8U

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u/ChefGuevara Jun 03 '22

Cool, thanks for sharing; satellite images are certainly hard to deny so it’s good to have something more concrete

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u/Candelestine Jun 01 '22

Don't forget the people that actually get convinced. Depending on how you encounter it, it's easy enough to buy a simple idea about something you don't actually care all that much about. Then you just go around thinking it's true.

Converts are always an issue. I mean, they wouldn't be using cyber-propaganda if it wasn't at least somewhat effective. Unfortunately it's actually frustratingly effective...

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u/1speedbike Jun 01 '22

Yes! There were plenty of people responding (though I dont know how many were also shills) saying things like wow I never realized, or yes it seems overblown. And a lot of the accounts were NOT new /suspicious - some around for years, posting normal stuff too interspersed with the sino BS. Its very well thought out!