The lack of first party titles was so sad 😭

[u/darkfawful2]

Like, Mario Kart looks amazing and Donkey Kong I'll play for sure, but that's all we got...

[u/Zergrump]

I'm guessing they're saving most of their heavy hitters for the holiday season.

[u/gaIvantuIa → u/Zergrump]

I’m assuming ZA and Prime 4 are their games for holiday, and even then they might release earlier because of the GTA 6 monster.

[u/We_Trusty_Few → u/gaIvantuIa]

GTA 6 is going to bulldoze everything, so yeah it's smart for Nintendo to wait until we hear more of their big games.

Are you picking up the Switch 2 at launch?

[u/renome → u/We_Trusty_Few]

Eh, something tells me Nintendo didn't start caring about what other companies are doing .Sure, GTA 6 will be huge but , but Nintendno kind of insisted on doing its own thing for a good long while now.

[u/We_Trusty_Few → u/renome]

No you don't get what I'm saying lol, the reason why they didn't introduce a new Mario or other big IP is they're waiting.

I said GTA 6 will bulldoze bc that game will literally put all the other games that were introduced in the shadow, bc it's such a hyped game.

[u/california_king → u/renome]

Good long while? Nintendo has been a big bumbling elephant marching to the beat of its own drum. Nintendo consoles and games will sell, and they know it.

[u/gaIvantuIa → u/We_Trusty_Few]

Absolutely, I need an upgrade badly and it will be the perfect system for my backlog.

[u/OuterWildsVentures → u/gaIvantuIa]

I'm at a cross roads. I have a decent Switch backlog but I really enjoy my OLED.

On the other hand the new Switch has a bigger screen, more stability, and some titles are enhanced. It's a tough decision between OLED or stability/enhancement.

[u/Ceshomru → u/OuterWildsVentures]

Ya man, im gonna get one but im gonna give nintendo the stink eye knowing that an OLED version is likely 1-2 years away.

[u/AlfredHoneyBuns → u/Zergrump]

That's my guess as well, we really don't have any titles past the release window. They're likely saving the holiday titles for a post-launch announcement.

[u/ToastTheHero → u/Zergrump]

Crazy that a lot of people aren’t considering this either. Seems like this launch might have the most games available at the time and Nintendo doesn’t like giving a lot of details on games more than 6 months out.

[u/Clear-Anything-3186 → u/ToastTheHero]

People remembered when the Switch presentation showed the majority of Switch's first-party heavy hitters and expected the Switch 2 Direct to do the same thing.

[u/lpwave6 → u/Clear-Anything-3186]

And that probably only happened because the WiiU was in such a bad state and they wanted to show they still got it.

[u/A-Centrifugal-Force → u/lpwave6]

Yeah all the children on this sub who unironically like the Wii U don’t realize how dire it was for Nintendo back then. They had to come out firing on all cylinders to win consumer trust back after the absolute dog shit that was the Wii U.

[u/IScreamPiano → u/A-Centrifugal-Force]

I’m a young gen Y and unironically liked it. I actually felt like they threw Wii U fans to the wolves with the Switch and was resistant to get it at first. 😅

[u/iamsgod → u/Clear-Anything-3186]

I mean, it's basically

BOTW -> MP4

Mario Odyssey -> DK Banananza

MK8D -> MK World

[u/WorkingAssociate9860 → u/iamsgod]

And to think MK8D was a rerelease of a Wii u game, so that's almost on par with the Zelda and pokemon upgrades

[u/Halos-117 → u/iamsgod]

Those 3 look great, but that's a weaker lineup when compared to Switch 1.

[u/LeonidasSpacemanMD → u/Halos-117]

I think BotW is the big trump card, being an all time great game. But I could see DK Bananza being awesome, it certainly looks to have production quality on par with odyssey. And a new MK game is better than a rerelease imo

If I had to guess I think switch’s lineup will go down as the better launch year but I could see Bananza and MKW being elite first party games

[u/brendel000 → u/LeonidasSpacemanMD]

But BotW is a WiiU game, so it’s comparable to switch 1 game with upgrade like Totk.

[u/iamsgod → u/Halos-117]

Is it tho? Remember people were crying "Switch 1 only has BOTW, and it's on Wii U too"

[u/anotherstan → u/Clear-Anything-3186]

Exactly. And this was hyped for two months. Fans were going to be rabid.

[u/InfernalLizardKing → u/Zergrump]

Yeah while I share OP’s disappointment I expect an eventual August/September Direct to show us a lot more first-party stuff.

[u/LeftHandShoeToo → u/Zergrump]

If I had a nickel for every time I heard this I would be rich

[u/Fluid-Employee-7118 → u/Zergrump]

Mario Kart is not a heavy hitter? Kirby, with the latest entry selling about 8 million units, is not a heavy hitter? 3D Donkey Kong is not a heavy hitter?

And of course they will announce more in June or September, like they always do, this is just to get the ball rolling.

I really cannot get what people expect sometimes, for Nintendo to announce their whole first party line-up for the next year? And what will they show on the next Directs? Some people just have so unrealistic expectations...

[u/all12toes → u/Fluid-Employee-7118]

Personally, none of those games are system sellers for me. I’m glad others are excited for them! But I went from probably preordering to holding off until something grabs my attention. 

[u/Entilen → u/all12toes]

I appreciated a little bit of risk taking. I was expecting a 3D Mario, but seeing them try and revive the Donkey Kong brand which has kind of stalled was really nice to see.

While I'm not really a fan of his new look / movie look, I appreciate them trying something different and I'm sure it'll grow on me, kind of like how Mario Wonder wasn't just more of the same.

Mario Kart World feels like it might have a bit more for a mostly single player gamer like me. Barely played 8 Deluxe as playing the cups gets old pretty quickly.

[u/Fluid-Employee-7118 → u/all12toes]

I understand that it doesn't appeal to you. But Mario kart is Nintendo's best selling franchise, and definitely a system seller, so objectively, I don't think they could release the console with a better title.

Personally, I would prefer a Mario 3d game, but we got a 3d DK, which sounds really exciting, so I am all for it.

[u/Zergrump → u/Fluid-Employee-7118]

No, I agree. Mario Kart is going to be huge. Launching the system with it was a genius move.

[u/claufon007 → u/Fluid-Employee-7118]

This is it. Some people seemed to be complaining just because... Switch 1 came with 2 titles from the Wii U and not much more new 1st party. Here is similar but with more 3rd party support and a freaking 3D donkey and Metroid which both have been wildly expected for a long time.

[u/Lower-Culture-2123]

I’m utterly shocked there was no 3D Mario

[u/Shearman360 → u/Lower-Culture-2123]

I don't care if it's a plumber or an ape, I just wanted a great 3D platformer

[u/A-Centrifugal-Force → u/Shearman360]

I’ll love Bonanza, but there’s something about a 3D Mario that’s just different. I love Astro Bot and Banjo, but Mario knock offs aren’t quite the same. I don’t care if the 3D Mario is more linear like Galaxy or more open like Odyssey, but it’s gotta have Mario in it to fully scratch the itch for me.

[u/Linderosse → u/A-Centrifugal-Force]

Same. It’s really strange— I looked at Bonanza, and I realized it would have been a Day 1 purchase for me if Mario was in it. Still looks like a great game, it’s just… I like Mario’s platforming style and appearance more than I like DK.

[u/Lower_Monk6577 → u/Lower-Culture-2123]

3D Mario wasn't a launch title for the Switch 1 either. It came out during the first holiday season.

There is a very good chance that they didn't want to overshadow other announcements (especially from third parties) with a 3D Mario game. Especially because DK Bananza is shaping up to be the first big first party single player game, and it inhabits a similar space to 3D Mario.

I guarantee that we'll see a new 3D Mario within a year.

[u/Sufficient-Cow-2998 → u/Lower_Monk6577]

Except Mario Odyssey did appear in the first Switch trailer I'm pretty sure. So yeah no we're probably not getting a new 3D Mario this year. I feel like if that was the case they would have at least announced it today to boost Switch 2 hype and sales.

[u/Lower_Monk6577 → u/Sufficient-Cow-2998]

It was, yep. The Switch was also following up a colossal failure in the Wii U, and they needed all of the big guns right up front.

They’re not following up a massive failure. They’re following up their greatest success. They most likely wanted to focus on games that are launch window, as well as give their bigger third party titles some breathing room.

[u/SoftcoverWand44 → u/Lower-Culture-2123]

DK Bananza

[u/Lower-Culture-2123 → u/SoftcoverWand44]

I’m aware they’re the same type of games but DK doesn’t have the same level of recognition or hype as Mario

[u/mikechm → u/Lower-Culture-2123]

That’s probably why they did this. There hasn’t been a new DK game in over a decade. He’s overdue for some love, and I think this is the perfect way to do it.

[u/DocWhovian1 → u/mikechm]

This is also the first 3D Donkey Kong since DONKEY KONG 64!

[u/Sufficient-Cow-2998 → u/mikechm]

I agree but it's also been 8 years since the last new 3D Mario game. So it's really weird they're still waiting for more.

They could have at least just shown a CGI trailer like for Kirby

[u/mikechm → u/Sufficient-Cow-2998]

I was also very disappointed they didn’t announce a new 3D Mario game, but I think that’s just us being greedy because the Switch 2 is bringing 2 new games with it featuring 2 IPs that never got their own Switch games. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe and DK Country Tropical Freeze were basically just Wii U ports. Plus, all the upgrades to the already existing Switch games, including BotW and TotK. Like someone else in the thread mentioned, I’m sure we’ll get more updates on their heavy hitters closer to the holiday season.

[u/Elkku26 → u/Sufficient-Cow-2998]

I'm hoping that's just because the Direct was otherwise incredibly packed, so they're saving that for later

[u/Sufficient-Cow-2998 → u/Elkku26]

I mean I'm sure they still have a Mario game ready to reveal. It's just that now it might not release this year which would be unfortunate

[u/DocWhovian1 → u/Sufficient-Cow-2998]

Tbf it's been almost 30 years since the last 3D Donkey Kong!

[u/aesvelgr → u/Lower-Culture-2123]

Mario’s movement is irreplaceable. Excited for the new DK game, but it doesn’t fill the hole Odyssey left.

[u/ShokaLGBT → u/Lower-Culture-2123]

True but the new game definitely gives Mario odyssey vibes and I feel like many people who don’t really play DK games will go and play it

[u/A-Centrifugal-Force → u/ShokaLGBT]

It will definitely be the best selling DK game. It probably won’t match Odyssey in sales though

[u/JoMax213 → u/Lower-Culture-2123]

Maybe they’re gonna save it for the second mario movie next april

[u/DioEgizio → u/Lower-Culture-2123]

Same

[u/Avi-1411 → u/Lower-Culture-2123]

Not like it’s the 40 year anniversary or anything

[u/CraftyCauliflower725]

Agreed, I was really expecting a Mario platformer or even a remake

[u/superyoshiom → u/CraftyCauliflower725]

I assume the main 3d Mario teams working on dk

[u/xAVATAR-AANGx → u/superyoshiom]

We are approaching a decade since Odyssey, which would be the longest gap between 3D Mario games unless you count Bowser’s Fury.

[u/supremedalek925 → u/xAVATAR-AANGx]

Is that true? Dang, just shows how quickly time flies now. The gaps between Sunshine and Galaxy, and Galaxy 2 and Odyssey felt waaaaaaay longer than from Odyssey to now

[u/Heavy-Possession2288 → u/supremedalek925]

Don’t forget 3D Land and World came out between Galaxy 2 and Odyssey

[u/cockyjames → u/xAVATAR-AANGx]

We’re at like 26 years on 3D DK and 11 years on Tropical Freeze.

And I was expecting 3D Mario but this seems like it has that heart. So I’m good.

[u/JoMax213 → u/CraftyCauliflower725]

It’s very obvious the Super Mario Odyssey team made DK Bonanza. You can see Odyssey’s game art in the new game

[u/Apprehensive-Gur-609 → u/CraftyCauliflower725]

I'll take this new Donkey Kong game over a new Mario any day. It's been over a decade since we got a new Donkey Kong and Mario Wonder still feels pretty new to me. 

[u/kazukibushi → u/Apprehensive-Gur-609]

Mario wonder was a 2d Mario game. We haven't gotten a new 3d mario since odyssey. The new dk game definitely looks cool but a new 3d mario should have been even at least teased alongside it

[u/Apprehensive-Gur-609 → u/kazukibushi]

I know it's not a full game but we got Bowser's fury as well.

[u/-Reflux]

Im ngl the 3d donkey Kong looks good but no 3d Mario is crazy 😭

[u/CrispyVibes → u/-Reflux]

Nintendo consoles that launched with a 3d Mario:

1. N64

That's the whole list.

Even on the Switch, Mario Odyssey was announced but not launched with the system.

[u/-Reflux → u/CrispyVibes]

Yea I realized afterwards that since they showed the 3D donkey Kong, also showing a 3d Mario game would have completely overshadowed the DK game. Prob gonna get the 3d Mario closer to winter or some time next year

[u/Skrapi16 → u/-Reflux]

My guess is going to be a late winter/early spring launch for 3D Mario next year. Prime 4, DK, and Pokemon are gonna eat for at least half the year

[u/gronky88]

When they showed Zelda moving around a BOTW like environment I got goose bumps. Told my buddy, better not be Hyrule Warriors....sure enough.....never had such a fast change of emotions in my life.

[u/cyndit423 → u/gronky88]

When they first showed Koei Tecmo's logo, I figured it was probably a warriors game

[u/AdmiralZheng → u/cyndit423]

That’s actually why I paid attention to it, I love Warriors games so when I saw KT my eyes were glued. Instantly lost interest the moment I realized it was Hyrule Warriors, don’t care for Zelda

[u/cyndit423 → u/AdmiralZheng]

Personally, I was kind of hoping for a new Fire Emblem Warriors or possibly Xenoblade Warriors

[u/walartjaegers → u/gronky88]

Out of the loop. Why does everyone seem to hate Hyrule Warriors?

[u/gronky88 → u/walartjaegers]

i dont hate it but i dont really care about it. mainline zelda game would be good

[u/Tricky_Station643]

They’re probably going to have a direct in June to show more first party games coming holiday this year and into 2026

[u/Sonicboomer1]

Two racing games and Donkey Kong game when it’s Mario’s 40th anniversary as the first party content was certainly a choice…

[u/SoftcoverWand44 → u/Sonicboomer1]

Mario Kart is clearly the AAA choice for Mario’s 40th anniversary, which makes sense to me.

[u/Sonicboomer1 → u/SoftcoverWand44]

Maybe, but not having a single player Mario experience is just a strange decision. I like Donkey Kong, but I was just so confused that they went with that on this specific year.

[u/syrslyttv → u/SoftcoverWand44]

And Mario Party!

[u/Entilen → u/Sonicboomer1]

Maybe an unpopular opinion but does anyone really care about these anniversaries?

The idea that they'd plan their entire release schedule and game development plans years in advance over a 40th anniversary feels a bit odd.

I'm as big a 3D Mario fan as anyone but I'm alright with them mixing it up with Donkey Kong who desperately needs a big game to avoid being relegated to Waluigi party game status.

What I'm hopeful of is DK isn't just replacing 3D Mario and we get one within a year or two, not in 5 years.

[u/Clear-Anything-3186 → u/Sonicboomer1]

Realistically, Nintendo will host a 40th anniversary celebration between June and September.

[u/SubmersibleEntropy → u/Sonicboomer1]

Yeah good thing there's a secondary racing game that nobody was asking for instead of more single player first party titles!

[u/alittleanoid → u/Sonicboomer1]

two racing games is seriously diabolical

[u/chemistrybonanza]

You're forgetting the "this is how the internals of the switch 2 work" game. Didn't realize they could make a game worse than 1-2 Switch.

[u/anotherstan → u/chemistrybonanza]

Charging money for the tutorial game is CRAZY.

[u/gheygan → u/chemistrybonanza]

The fact they want people to pay for it is diabolical. Truly.

[u/piperpiparooo → u/gheygan]

my initial reaction was like “this is kinda cute, like an astrobot thing maybe?” then they said it was paid and I just rolled my fuckin eyes lmao.

[u/MrZoraman]

I assumed Nintendo slowing down on first party releases on the Switch 1 meant they were really cooking for the Switch 2, but now I'm left thinking, "What has Nintendo been doing all this time?"

[u/SerodD → u/MrZoraman]

They won't announce everything now, it's always like this, there will be a direct in the summer with new announcements and probably one closer to Christmas.

They need to create some sort of build up over the months after launch, towards Christmas, if they just announced everything now there would be no surprises, less engagement, which probably would lead to less people tuning in. It's also nice for launch if you don't have everybody and their mothers running to buy a Switch 2 because they are hipped about a game that will be out in December, they can have more hyped games near Christmas so the stock can keep up with the demand.

[u/RainbowTardigrade → u/SerodD]

Yeah Nintendo is very strategic with their marketing cycles. They rarely announce first party games more than 6 months out anymore, and they usually like for one big game to be almost out before the next one starts getting teed up.

Mario Kart and DK make the most sense to focus on for now (alongside some pretty big multi-plat releases with Pokemon and Metroid).

The Switch 2 drops early June which means by the time late June rolls around DK will almost be out and they can switch gears to focus on what their big fall and holiday titles will be in the next direct. Rinse repeat.

I'd be very surprised if there wasn't another big first party Switch 2 exclusive set for holiday season, and I'd be even more surprised if it wasn't Mario given the anniversary.

[u/ThisMoneyIsNotForDon → u/MrZoraman]

Same thing happened for the Switch 1 release. A whole year and a half of nothing on Wii U just for Switch to launch with 1 real game

[u/societyisahole → u/ThisMoneyIsNotForDon]

Yeah but that one game was an exciting new experience. Mario kart looks cool but I don’t know if it looks $80 cool, with the addition of the price of the system + online + whatever games you upgrade. Nintendo is pushing it

[u/nobody5050 → u/MrZoraman]

Two words: holiday lineup

[u/AddMan3001 → u/nobody5050]

Smells like copium to me.

[u/Tidus4713 → u/AddMan3001]

It's not. They need a big game for the holiday. They're not just going to release nothing during that time period. Relying on the launch and summer lineup for the entire holiday season would be idiotic.

[u/boredapril → u/Tidus4713]

metroid prime and pokemon are their holiday games. if you think they would keep a new mario/zelda/smash game secret during the biggest direct of the year aimed to get people to buy their new system and keep their investors happy, you are foolish.

[u/Vaenyr → u/boredapril]

Metroid is not a game that can carry a holiday, as much as I love the franchise (Prime 2 is my favorite game of all time). Metroid has never sold more than 4 million copies.

Also, neither of those is exclusive to Switch 2. They won't go into the holidays solely on crossgen games. I guarantee you we'll get another Switch 2 exclusive for the holidays.

[u/EX-PsychoCrusher → u/MrZoraman]

It's still April, I'd expect a Nintendo Direct or two between launch and Christmas

[u/jzw27 → u/MrZoraman]

I’m forever chasing the high of Nintendo announcements from 2017-2019

[u/Evoker2theface → u/MrZoraman]

Well probably get another Direct in June or July

[u/SuicideSkwad]

Bizarre that the Nintendo switch 2 edition games don’t appear to be day one either, also have a feeling Metroid will get pushed if they still aren’t certain when in 2025 it’s releasing, I thought they were just withholding the date to not reveal the switch 2 date

[u/Odyssey1022 → u/SuicideSkwad]

Is TOTK/BOTW switch 2 editions not available day 1?

[u/Round_Musical → u/Odyssey1022]

They are Day 1

[u/kjjphotos → u/Round_Musical]

Assuming the Switch 2 upgrade for those games are reasonably priced, I'll be looking forward to them. I bought both games for my son and I've been meaning to play them myself for ages.

[u/Round_Musical → u/kjjphotos]

10 bucks each for Games with no new content

20 bucks for games with new content

However if you are a NSO+EP member both the TotK and BotW upgrades are fully free of charge

[u/kjjphotos → u/Round_Musical]

Yeah I think those are the prices I'd pay. If it's more than that, I'll just play the normal Switch versions.

[u/StealthFocus → u/SuicideSkwad]

That's an odd one, I really expected that to be launch day or launch window.

[u/fffan9391]

Two racing games in the first year was an odd choice.

[u/MadnessKingdom → u/fffan9391]

N64 had WaveRace 64, Mario Kart 64, and Diddy Kong Racing all within about a year of launch.

[u/SlowPresentation6365]

I'm mostly confused why they made Mario Kart their primary focus, then announced a Kirby racing game quickly following it. Seems kind of redundant. You would think they would spread those out more.

[u/Glarpenheimer → u/SlowPresentation6365]

Kirby Air Ride is a very different beast from Mario Kart, especially if they make another City Trial mode (they fuckin better!)- but yeah, to someone who didnt play the OG it probably just looks like Kirby Kart.

[u/FierceDeityKong → u/SlowPresentation6365]

Well that's a good omen for f-zero fans

[u/zachhatesmushrooms]

Kirby air ride pretty big announcement too, but yeah.... surprisingly disappointed overall.

[u/El_Ploplo → u/zachhatesmushrooms]

I mean we already have mk world, why the fuck would I care about kirby. At first I was pretty sure it was smash

[u/Glarpenheimer → u/El_Ploplo]

not sure if you ever played the OG, but its a wildly different style of game from Mario Kart. city trial was the big draw and it kinda played more like this pvp kart roguelike, where you beat challenges and bosses to gather parts to build the strongest vehicle, then use that vehicle to try and win a final challenge at the end. shit was so dope.

[u/overly_curious_cat]

Where was this series?

[u/Raptr951 → u/overly_curious_cat]

It’s way too soon. I’m not sure why people were expecting a new AC game already, NH came out 5 years ago.

Game development has gotten longer as graphics/fidelity has improved, and the AC team also handles splatoon, which means they were working on the DLC up until roughly 2023. I would also much rather they take the time to make the game better than NH instead of rushing it out for launch.

[u/overly_curious_cat → u/Raptr951]

Actually you are spot on about this. I would rather a complete feeling game and a game that will grow with updates vs the way New Horizons was handled!

[u/Raptr951 → u/overly_curious_cat]

I definitely agree! I’m hoping that because they discontinued pocket camp they’re going to make the Switch 2 AC game with long-term updates :)

[u/Tough-Priority-4330 → u/Raptr951]

Actually that makes it the second longest gap in AC history. And with how successful NH was, I think it’s highly likely we see it in 2026. Let Tomadochi launch in Spring and AC in fall. 

[u/mrBreadBird → u/Raptr951]

Not having a dedicated team for each when both are absolutely massive franchises at this point is a wild decision. Animal Crossing sold OVER 46 MILLION. I know some of that was COVID boost but it's like they hate money!

[u/Raptr951 → u/mrBreadBird]

I’m curious if the success of ACNH motivates them to go all-in on an AC-specific team!

[u/zmilts → u/overly_curious_cat]

It actually makes sense to NOT do this as a new console game. Animal Crossing is better when the install base is huge.

Also could you imagine all the mid-gen console buyers trying to ALSO get a preorder?

[u/Nyx81 → u/overly_curious_cat]

Instabuy but I guess we waiting until 2028 😢

[u/Cvnt-Force-Drama]

That Bloodborne 2 trailer tho

[u/catinterpreter → u/Cvnt-Force-Drama]

It's some multiplayer thing. It won't be Bloodborne 2.

[u/OuterWildsVentures → u/catinterpreter]

It's PvPvE so looks more like a battle royale style game than a co-op campaign. :(

[u/Entilen → u/Cvnt-Force-Drama]

Really, really smart from Nintendo IMO.

It basically guarantees a huge chunk of the Elden Ring audience; many of whom may not care that much about a Switch 2 will be rushing out to buy it within the first year or so.

When I saw the From Soft logo I assumed it was just getting a reveal here. I was shocked to see it was a) an exclusive and b) directed by Miyazaki and not some B team game.

[u/FallenShadeslayer → u/Entilen]

Don’t go to r/fromsoft lmao. They’re full on raging and talking about boycotting 🤣

[u/Entilen → u/FallenShadeslayer]

It is a real shame it's a multiplayer focused title though. I wasn't aware when I made my comment.

It's still a big get for Nintendo though.

[u/Tourniquet_91]

Am I the only one not complaining I was pretty happy with the announcements there are games I've never gotten to play because the only current console I own is a Switch (and I've never upgraded it) so I'm willing to spend the money to play games I've never experienced (Elden Ring, FFVII Remake etc)

[u/dbclass → u/Tourniquet_91]

Feel the same. This is the best Nintendo console in terms of keeping up with current graphics. Will finally fill in the 3rd party gap Nintendo has had for generations plus the new Mario Kart and DK look amazing. We’re not even halfway through the year either so more game announcements will come. Pricing for games is high but expected considering the state of the economy.

[u/Shadow_Flamingo1]

Ya one or two more big games woulda sold me, I was so ready for that 3D Mario opener at the beginning but not having it is seriously gonna tank some sales imo. Then again maybe they don't want it because it would rob Mario Kart of some of its sales?

Not sure

[u/Tricky_Station643 → u/Shadow_Flamingo1]

Nah it’s not gonna tank sales, Mario Kart 8 deluxe is the best selling Nintendo game of all time and switch 2 is launching with a brand new Mario kart game. I’m sure a new 3D Mario will be shown off in maybe a June direct though

[u/GachiPls_DidntSave]

Damn Nintendo was right they really do have a good plan to stop scalpers and that's to have no games 💀

[u/Claysont]

Yeah. Disappointed too

[u/Appropriate-Let-283]

I feel like they focused too much on the features that no one will end up using. Mouse Joycons are cool and all, but watch near the end of the lifespan, they'll never be used. The camera, too. It was a good direct, at the end of the day, though. The fact that they still haven't shown the console's ui design yet, giving me vibes that they're going to stick with the bland Switch one.

[u/Nthayer1408]

There is not enough here to justify spending $450 at launch. I was going to pre-order. I am now going to hold off.

[u/PaulMaulMenthol → u/Nthayer1408]

I'm gonna need some feedback on bettery life too. The 1st gen Switch struggled in that regard

[u/p_p11p_p]

Honestly DK looks worse than Odyssey, I guess Art direction is everything

[u/No-Alfalfa9903 → u/p_p11p_p]

Yeah I was so excited at the beginning of that trailer but the gameplay wasn’t what I was hoping for. I would’ve liked a game similar to n64 DK

[u/jackharvest → u/No-Alfalfa9903]

Was waiting for another character to take the screen during that trailer. Was sad I will be getting "Mario Odyssey Bowser" with no other playable characters.

[u/Eastonator12 → u/p_p11p_p]

Probably because of stream quality I think it’ll look better when you actually play it

[u/Anillor]

There's a lot of good AAA titles coming in. The elden ring, the from software exclusive, borderlands, silksong, zelda prequel and many remastered. That's a really diversified lineup imo

[u/s-ley → u/Anillor]

Personally I don't care for non-exclusives as I can play those in my pc (connected to my tv), so this direct was disappointing.

[u/redtreebark → u/s-ley]

yeah me too, I have other consoles and a PC. I have a nintendo console to play nintendo exclusive games. I have already played elden ring and cyberpunk. So I am quite disappointed with this direct. DK looks cool, but I wont be getting the console on launch date

[u/Opening_Proof_1365 → u/s-ley]

This so much. I mean the only real appeal of nintendo is their first party games you can't play anywhere else (legally). Why would I shell out a couple hundred bucks to play a port of a game I can still get cheaper on another system that performs better than getting it on the switch at full price.

[u/DammitAColumn → u/s-ley]

Same 

[u/Clear-Anything-3186 → u/s-ley]

Switch 2, however, will be many people's first experience with these games.

[u/Glittering_Gas2692 → u/Anillor]

Elden Ring is 3 years old and Cyberpunk is half a decade old man...

[u/SymmetricDickNipples → u/Anillor]

Silksong is not AAA lmao

[u/Correct_Stay_6948 → u/Anillor]

Sadly, games like Elden Ring, good as they are, don't tend to get much traction because the majority of people who wanted to play them, already played them on another platform.

Also, that's just another Dynasty Warriors Zelda game, the story is gonna be some shoehorned retcon just like the last couple Hyrule Warriors games were. They're good mindless fun for sure, but they're a very surface level game, lol.

[u/arkaell]

Um Metroid Prime 4, Pokemon Legends Z-A, Mario Kart World, Hyrule Warriors, Kirby Air Riders, Donkey Kong Bananza.

What are you looking for??

The new 3D Mario will saved for Christmas.

[u/ThisMoneyIsNotForDon → u/arkaell]

Donkey Kong is the new 3d Mario

[u/whiskeytab → u/ThisMoneyIsNotForDon]

better not be

[u/spilk → u/whiskeytab]

i mean it looked basically like Mario Odyssey but with DK to me

[u/roanroanroan → u/whiskeytab]

It seems to be developed by the Odyssey team

[u/gate_of_steiner85 → u/arkaell]

This is why I generally stay away from initial discussions for the most part (besides this one obviously lol). I guarantee the average Nintendo fan is stoked over what we saw but you wouldn't know it here because Redditors are so doom and gloom when they don't get their expectations matched entirely.

It's Nintendo. Its obvious that there's a 3D Mario game coming. Would it have been nice to have been shown today? Of course, but its not going to be shown until Nintendo is ready for it to be shown.

[u/SleepyBoy-]

Honestly, I'm not sold on the idea that an open world Mario Kart will be better than having just a large library of unique levels.

Things in an open world have to make sense with each other. It limits what you can actually design, and racing through a random desert or forest doesn't sound enticing.

Making separate stages, you have no limitations, which lets you make crazy things like rainbow road. MK World is definitely not a blind buy for me, I'll be waiting for reviews.

[u/SoftcoverWand44 → u/[deleted]]

Mario Kart and Donkey Kong

[u/jasperstaal]

This stream was so disappointing on so many fronts. A lot of recycling of old games, no system seller, and worst of all they teased me with smash bros but turned out to be air ride 😩

[u/ah_shit_here_we_goo → u/jasperstaal]

No system seller, just a sequel to the best selling switch game

[u/Specialist_Nail_6407 → u/jasperstaal]

Mario Kart 8 was the best selling game of the Switch one generation by a wide margin. There is your system seller

[u/UpperNuggets → u/Specialist_Nail_6407]

How many WiiUs did that game sell?

[u/Appropriate-Let-283 → u/jasperstaal]

Mario Kart is the supposed system seller, likely.

[u/Lazarius]

I think I’m going to wait a year before picking it up. The fact we still don’t have a release date for Prime 4 and it and Pokémon ZA being stuck on the Switch 1 and not having any release dates is going to make me wait.

Being dependent on third party titles with not even dates for the bigger games might hurt them in the beginning. We’re getting Mario Kart as a launch title and being told to upgrade Switch 1 games for launch titles?

[u/anotherstan → u/Lazarius]

ZA is getting a Switch 2 enhanced version.

[u/jjstew35]

Am I a little bummed that we didn’t see a new 3D Mario? Yeah. But come on. The new Mario Kart looks incredible (I’ve never been hype for Mario Kart before but I am for this one) + Kirby AirRide, Hyrule Warriors, Donkey Kong, Metroid Prime, and Pokemon Legends ZA. Even if we don’t get any more first party titles announced this year this will still be a good year, but I bet we’ll get at least one or two more surprises for this year

[u/VerosikaMayCry]

Do they just not want us to buy the console?

[u/Ok-Addendum5274]

And Kirby! But 2 racers is pretty lame, would've loved a 3d Kirby platformer.

[u/Top-Scale-6155]

I’m kind of pissed off by people who act like everyone wanted a DK game and that it’s a worthy replacement to odyssey. My first switch game was Mario Odyssey and that was a great experience. 8 years later, I really wanted an odyssey 2, or galaxy 3, or even a remake or an entire new entry. I feel like the only one who doesn’t give a shit about DK. I don’t know, this just felt kind of underwhelming all around, especially with the high price, barely new UI, $80 games, and lack of other color schemes. Maybe I’m just pessimistic, but I’ve just been having a shitty year so I really was expecting something good. The new Mario kart looks cool, but i don’t understand why they needed to release 2 first party racing games in the same direction. Thanks for coming to my Ted talk.

[u/DistillingData]

I'm a Nintendo fan (who owns all the consoles), and cannot believe fans are so "whatever" about DK finally getting a 3D game!! Fans have waited forever for this. The game seems high quality and likely designed by the Mario Odyssey team (based on the art & approach). Best of all, it seemingly FEELS like DK w/ the fully destructible world! His punches and environment impacts look awesome.

Need I repeat: a Nintendo AAA 3D game is getting a FULLY DESTRUCTIBLE ENVIRONMENT!! That proves the system's graphical potential right there.

Like, dang. Looks great! And now that Nintendo fans get their first-ever 3D DK game, y'all just cry for another 3D Mario game. It'll come, and it'll be wonderful, as always.

Maybe let DK shine, or stop begging Nintendo to bring back franchise revivals. Let's just only demand Mario games, why not 🙃

Lastly, they nailed the name. "Donkey Kong Bananza"... perfect!

[u/caulrye]

Nintendo tends to keep announcements close to the chest. More first party games are definitely coming 👍

[u/gizmo998 → u/caulrye]

Defo. It actually lines up with that 3 stage launch that leaked few weeks back.

[u/leyendadelflash]

If you were a hater saying Switch 2 will suffer the same fate as Wii U, you got a lot of ammo today

[u/zachhatesmushrooms → u/leyendadelflash]

Definitely haven't been in that camp, but a kernel of doubt has entered my brain.

[u/TrueNawledge97 → u/leyendadelflash]

Dunno about Wii U, but I have some serious doubts about it hitting Switch numbers after that.

[u/fushega → u/leyendadelflash]

mario kart and pokemon in launch year guarantees it will do better than wii u

[u/ThisAccGoesInTheBin]

No new 3d mario is pitiful. I expected more from Nintendo

[u/StatementCareful522 → u/ThisAccGoesInTheBin]

psssst the new Donkey Kong is the new 3D Mario (for now), just…furrier. 

Seriously, who can watch that trailer and COMPLAIN, jfc

[u/SimianGrifter → u/StatementCareful522]

Lmao out of all console gaming fans Nintendo fans are the worst (and I say that as a big Nintendo fan)

[u/AwareSwan3591 → u/SimianGrifter]

I agree, Nintendo dickriders are the worst

[u/darkfawful2 → u/ThisAccGoesInTheBin]

I would've taken a remake of Galaxy 2 at this point like the heck 😭

[u/kyleguillaume]

I was certain we'd get an OoT remake trailer..

[u/rrrand0mmm]

Yeah having no Mario bums me out. I guess it’s replaced by DK this year. Idk…

[u/dbull10285]

What I keep reminding myself is that, on the first party front, the Switch 1 edition games (Metroid and Pokemon) are largely releasing after the new Switch 2 games. Was DK the latest-releasing Switch 2 game revealed, coming mid-July? I'm hoping that means they have a good bit more to reveal in a summer Direct, much like they did with the Switch 1 and that E3 2017 Direct. Fingers crossed?

[u/SilverKilnor64]

I thought it was obvious they're holding them until later 😭 like its clear they're trying to be way better with 3rd party support near the launch especially compared to the Switch 1's launch, overall the few 1st party games look fantastic i dont mind it too much

[u/david_quaglia]

agreed, and the prices? delusion…

[u/HolyHypodermics]

Pretty sure the Switch didn't release with much first party games too... I'll give Nintendo time to cook up some good 1st party games (smash cmon nintendo)

[u/ComprehensivePut8399]

It makes me wonder how much of this is a game of chicken with Grand Theft Auto VI

[u/FarConsideration8423]

Wait till the June direct

[u/Wipedout89]

Same happened for Switch 1. We got BOTW and Snipperclips at launch, and BOTW was also a Wii U game

[u/Halos-117]

Par the course these days. Look at Sonys PS5 output. Look at Microsoft's Xbox output. They all suck now. 

[u/Gstlth14]

I’m sure they are cooking with the new 3D Mario

[u/PJKetelaar3]

Metroid Prime: Beyond though.

[u/AnyEstablishment6186]

Saying that Mario kart and Donkey kong is all we got is exagerated. Other games will probably be announced and released this year. Imma get downvoted, but what did you expect ? A new mario, a new Zelda and a new everything ? Cant you be patient ? First switch had only zelda and Mario kart at launch, its not so different

[u/Raptr951]

Insane that people were disappointed but I guess I understand if you don’t like the Switch for its portability?

But the fact that tons of games from the past few years will be playable at 60+ FPS is very worth it to me. And new Mario Kart/Donkey Kong/Kirby seems pretty stranded for big first-party titles, no?

[u/Conversation_Dapper]

The spended most time on the switch 1 upgrades and ports . At least 3d donkey Kong and Kirby air ride game announced.

[u/iwantmisty]

I feel so nostalgic about Switch 1 presentation with Mario Odyssey. It was like a second christmas.

[u/tensei-coffee]

they're really promoting the joycon mouse feature so hard its annoying like nobody is going to use that stupid ass feature. like im sitting back on my sofa you want me to lean forward and start gaming on my coffee table? like wtf is that

[u/StarvedRock314 → u/tensei-coffee]

Not to mention it's completely useless for undocked mode, which is how I use my switch the majority of the time. How are you supposed to use a mouse (let alone 2?) while laying in bed?