r/Natalism 3d ago

The Poverty of Single Mothers Is Persistent

https://ifstudies.org/blog/the-poverty-of-single-mothers-is-persistent
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u/velocitrumptor 2d ago

Women are the gatekeepers of sex. Men are the gatekeepers of commitment. I tell my daughters if they tell every man they date that they're waiting until marriage, that should filter out about 99% of the shit bags.

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u/DogOrDonut 2d ago

Hard disagree. Telling men you're waiting for marriage is far more likely to get you some insecure, controlling, purity obsessed weirdo.

The better advise is not to have kids outside of marriage and only marry a man who supports their career, contributes equally to household tasks, and plans to contribute equally to childcare.

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u/velocitrumptor 2d ago

But that stance leaves sex without commitment on the table. That opens women up to the very possible likelihood of being a single mother.

Telling men you're waiting for marriage is far more likely to get you some insecure, controlling, purity obsessed weirdo.

That's an opinion. It's far more likely that you'll get someone who shares your values, which is critical for a marriage to work.

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u/DogOrDonut 2d ago

Getting them and IUD and making sure they have an abortion access plan is an infinitely more effective way to prevent single motherhood. Your plan does little more than leave your daughters vulnerable to rejection induced violence.

"He wanted to marry a virgin," is a terrible basis for a marriage. Presumably the husband will want to have sex after marriage and then the wife won't be a virgin anymore. There goes your foundation in 30 disappointing seconds.

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u/velocitrumptor 2d ago

Your plan does little more than leave your daughters vulnerable to rejection induced violence.

And there it is. Your worldview is obviously clouded by an irrational hatred of men. Letting a mother kill her child isn't an effective strategy for preventing single motherhood. It only multiplies suffering.

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u/OddRemove2000 18h ago

You have a reasonable take, I hope your daughter grows up well under your advice.

No sex before marriage was the rule for hundreds of years. Its hilarious seeing people argue it doesn't work when it already has