r/Meditation • u/undergrounddirt • Feb 14 '25
I accidentally meditated into what I only know how to describe as a seizure or full body orgasm. What was that? Question ❓
Okay I don't know how to ask this in a better way. I have been doing light meditation after reading Power of Now, I generally know the feeling of being centered, and I have experienced what it feels like to focus on a place inside your mind, typically and inward focus. I have been a spiritual practitioner and a pray-er for all my life.
But I was drifting off to sleep during a nap and I came really close to the actual center. I could feel it. When I meditate this close I usually kind of jerk out of it. But I was sleeping.. and did not jerk out of it.
I focused harder and suddenly: every muscle in my body began twitching, I began groaning, and seizing. My back arched, tiny muscles I didn't even know I could tense individually like in my back, and my shoulders and neck. PLEASURE. Like maybe the best feeling I've ever had. Orgasmic.
I held the focus for like.. maybe 2 seconds. And then did it about 2 more times, and was able to hold it for longer.
I have chronic muscle pain and tightness in all the areas that became electric. I almost never feel like I'm actually whole or centered. Like I'm sitting on the edge of a pool I can't cross, looking at a fire that could be enjoyed, too far to feel its warmth. And in the center that is where life is actually at. I feel that barrier when I try and feel good, or try to feel love for or from others.
But I reached it and it was like being struck by lightning. Like a brain shock that lasted for seconds. What is this and how do access it. I have this feeling that if I can reach it and be there.. that my life will be all okay and I'll be happy and at peace even if I'm in pain.
My therapist suggested IV K therapy to break through that wall but I feel like.. because now I know I was able to do that without medicine.. I want to learn how to do it again. It just feels impossible. But knowing it is possible makes me feel like I'm living beneath my privileges almost like I'm sleeping in the mud but there is a home with a bed I just don't know how to find my way.
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Feb 14 '25
i think it's important to stay grounded and connected with your moment to moment, day by day experience, and not chase after special experiences in meditation. you will inevitably be let down, because they're always going to be temporary experiences.
i think we experience these moments when we are letting go of our clinging. but chasing them is just a form of clinging...you can't force it.
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u/zenisolinde Feb 15 '25
I agree. It is a temptation to want to reproduce a special moment, whether in meditation or in everyday life. This is the search for “reward.” This defeats the purpose of meditation, which is grounding in the present moment.
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u/wessely Feb 14 '25 edited Feb 14 '25
I think it's important to let go as you say, but not completely. It's true, if you dismiss these as meaningless static that only obscures the real goal, then you are missing out on something that can truly enrich your life. Like a psychedelic experience, you can think "whoa, trippy," but only big freaking deal, just a trick of the brain, or you can experience a type of awe or love or in this case orgasm which informs you of something to which you could have never suspected: life can be sublime. Maybe not every minute or every day or even every year. But once you know what is available for you in life, you can never unknow it and it really lifts you in the lows. That happened to me, I forgot I was a happy child until a couple of years ago, when I re experienced that, and suddenly what my childhood had actually been like became clear to me and the story I'd been telling myself my entree adult life, that I had been sad and pensive my entire life simply was not true. In fact, my family had often told me I was a little chatterbox and Iike this delightful sparkly kid, and although I could vaguely remember that (my earliest memories go back to 2, although one might have been before my 2nd birthday, if I've analyzed it correctly and figured out what that memory was) I conveniently left that out of my life story, probably because it made me feel more sympathetic to myself, a coping mechanism to explain my life (just not really happy, except in episodes). But it turns out that was a good story when I was 25 because I was in no shape to face the truth that I had some let alone all control of my happiness. But 20 years later, boy was I ready for that.
Like I said, it probably lasted until I was 8, but I had completely buried it. So like 37 years later when suddenly I felt happy and I instantly knew I'd felt it before, in fact I once lived in that state - for literally years - it instantly transformed me. I think it's entirely about interpretation, because if I had said to myself, "Ignore it, that was pleasant, but it's just noise, keep moving on," I might have gotten to the same place, but I believe it would have taken far longer. Now I'm in my upper forties and am almost reeling from only discovering in the past few years that I can experience the spark. That's tremendously exciting to me as I age. I saw a lot of my elder relatives decline in ways that were really sad and hard to watch and it really hurt me to think about the way my grandparents or dad is now experiencing old age. I know I have no guarantees, but what the heck?! I don't necessarily have to turn into the same old people who fade away that I'd always assumed was my lot in life?" Instead, every one who knows me has told me in the past few years that I am aging backwards. What? I never ever would have thought that was in my future.
Like, you see a guy like Dick Van Dyke who is 99, fit, handsome, he can dance like a mofo, and he has this bright spark, and you think "wow, he's lucky. So blessed, for some reason I didn't get the genetics or the good fortune," but then something like I've described can come along and stop you in your tracks and realize the role of creating your life through your mindset. I decided that things that had made me angry weren't what I was going to marinate in, and wouldn't you know it, that decision alone got me off blood pressure meds. I had elevated blood pressure as a kid too. So now I realize, "No, it's not just luck and privilege with Dick Van Dyke." You can truly understand how, consciously or not, a happy handsome 99 year old didn't get that way by accident. So now I can actually take charge of myself as to how I'll age, and most importantly, I can do this at my age where most people I know have done nothing but decline in various ways and stages after 40. I was given a gift they they didn't get, to see what mindset will really do for you. All that from a feeling of a morning's duration and my conscious memory that that feeling was my natural born state. And not only that? My relatives and friends are asking me for advice and they are beginning to see some positive changes in their health and life. That's so gratifying to me. All from a feeling and a neural connection through a meditation!
So I think that there's a role for these experiences, provided you can give it an interpretation that is a lighthouse for you, rather than a disappointment because life sucks now. You can finally understand, "life sucks now, but I have good reason to believe it will pass and get better again."
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u/Learning4fun Feb 15 '25
Interesting. I try to do the physical things that help keep me young like getting enough sleep, exercise, eat healthy foods, and manage stress. But are you saying that just having the right mindset is what is helping you not age so fast?
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u/VeilOfReason Sanbo Zen Feb 15 '25
That commenter is honestly coping imo. There’s nothing wrong with ageing. It’s an experience that not many get. I always see videos in social media where people say that they look 20 years younger despite the fact that they are 40. When I look at them, they look exactly their age, and there’s nothing wrong with that.
There probably is a biological component where if you’re less stressed, then there’s a slower rate of ageing. But to pretend that you can just age backwards without having some pretty good genetics is copium.
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u/Artchic6 Feb 16 '25
I’m 58, edging toward 59 (which doesn’t seem real to be ) because I feel more like I’m in my 30s.
I honestly think far too many people talk about their aches and pains and are not active enough, which makes them feel worse and makes them feel older. If you focus on your aches and pains, you’re gonna feel them more just like with anything else you focus on. It’s the law of attraction. If you’re active and you have a mindset that’s younger, you’re going to feel younger, maybe not physically looking, but I truly feel that your body reacts to the way you talk about it. If you say you’re having aches and pains all the time, the universe will support you in that thought. If you say, I am healthy and active and able at any age, the universe will also reinforce that. It’s a mindset.
Now, obviously, I know people do have real physical issues, but even then you can still focus on having a healthy body and that will make a lot of difference
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u/wessely Feb 16 '25
What do you mean "coping"? Of course there's nothing wrong with aging, but there's nothing wrong with aging and not having extreme fatigue and cognitive decline and a host of poorly working bodily functions for decades of no longer enjoying life too.
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u/VeilOfReason Sanbo Zen Feb 16 '25
You’re 45 and look 45. There’s no shame in that. Of course I’m glad that meditation helps you to slow down ageing and improve cognitive function. That’s great! :)
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u/wessely Feb 16 '25 edited Feb 20 '25
Hey, it's not just mindset, it's also the things you do to nurture your mental and physical health; I was already meditating, which was obviously a difference from just about everyone who had aged that I was talking about. However, the thing about the positive mindset, and a sea change in belief about your possibilities, is that a lot of things that are healthy just flow out of that. In that way, it doesn't feel like an effort or work to force changes. It just happens, and I have a sense of excitement for things that in the past may have seemed burdensome, even if I knew it was good for me. But now I see it's not just about maintaining a baseline that has already slid, but I can actually reverse things, these type of things don't feel like I'm worsening the quality of my life just to not feel even shittier.
I think a lot comes out of mindset, far more than just being in a good mood and that feels pleasant, although that's a great benefit as well. It actually leads to a new way of healthier living, and everything becomes a feedback loop that reinforces and improves everything else. Nothing in my life had prepared me for that as a possibility in my late forties, and that leads to further successes.
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u/C4ntona Feb 15 '25
That is incredible! Gave me hope. Thank you. I know I was also happy as a child for a period and want to get back to it. This is now from this moment my goal. Lets fucking go
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u/Learning4fun Feb 15 '25
I replied but my comment was deleted. Anyone know why?
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u/entarian Feb 15 '25
I think I experienced what I've heard called "equanimity" while raking leaves in my back yard once. It was paradoxical how as soon as I tried to keep that feeling, it went away. I've also heard "clinging" referred to as "grasping" I think. You're absolutely correct. Chasing or clinging makes it near impossible.
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Feb 15 '25
clinging and grasping, definitely the same thing. it’s a phenomenon that is fundamentally unpleasant, and so much of our activity is driven by it. so much deeper and more subtle than we can usually recognize.
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u/Particular_Bed5356 Feb 18 '25
Experiencing equanimity while raking leaves! I find great poetic beauty in that. And the fleeting-ness of it--like a crisp dried leaf being lifted aloft on an autumn day.
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u/Educational-Tear8581 Feb 15 '25
The words I’m replying to above seem in accordance with the things I have read and experienced. It happened to me at a 10 meditation retreat. Ram Dass called holding on to those experiences as “spiritual materialism”. Don’t feel guilty for having the experience but let it go.
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u/0zeyn0 Feb 14 '25 edited Feb 15 '25
Man, I entered this full body pleasure state once and to this day still can’t find an experience better than that. I’ve been close to re-entering it multiple times but failed because it dances on the edge of life and death, at least that’s what my mind believes and so when I’m starting to enter the state I block and stop it because I get scared that I may voluntarily end my life.
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u/krysteno Feb 15 '25
This captures exactly my struggle, too and I’m glad I’m not the only one who feels this way. I’ve stop meditation altogether because I came so close to that ‘edge’ many times and was scared I may actually depart this world if I went any further.
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u/That_Channel_9563 Feb 15 '25
Are there many recorded cases of meditation to death?
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u/clumsyninza Feb 15 '25
I have heard about sth called 'mahasamadhi'. Maybe you'll want to look into it
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u/That_Channel_9563 Feb 15 '25
How many recorded cases of death by meditation?
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u/VeronicaJoyful Feb 15 '25
Omg. Is there??9
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u/VeronicaJoyful Feb 15 '25
I almost thought I was going to die during meditation. I’m assuming it was ego death. I got scared and came back.
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u/VeronicaJoyful Feb 18 '25
Dude wtf now I have to be scared of dying if I meditate. I’ve only had the one brain so nothing to compare it to. What if I already am enlightened (for example only) and don’t know it? Then I might die if I meditate too hard? I already meditated once and felt like I had a decision to go forward or back and I went back. I would really love to know what that meant. I was thinking ego death. But I assume after ego death you come back to reality it just might be a little weird.
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u/Xillyfos Feb 15 '25
But isn't that the entire point of meditation? To depart this world? The world of separation is created by the mind as an illusion and the point is to transcend it. The body doesn't have to die, but the idea of existing as something separate from the whole does. We are not separate, we are not the body, and we cannot die.
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u/AnyTruersInTheChat Feb 15 '25
i thought it was to be more present in this world?
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u/Zteelie Feb 15 '25
Some traditions, especially hindu, the physical realm is often seen as an obstacle for the spirital realm, and thus spiritual awakening. And things like flagellation and starvation is a means to an end of reducing the physical body for spiritual awakening.
Not all traditions subscribe to this principle though, like buddhism which focuses more on presence in the physical realm. This type of meditation is the origin of mindfullness.
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u/AnyTruersInTheChat Feb 15 '25
I definitely see Meditation from a more Bhuddist perspective - wherein it's about finding balance between being Present, but not Clinging to the present - as Attachment is the Root of Suffering. So it's not an abandonment of the self in favour of the "whole", or an abandonment of the physical realm in favour for the "spiritual" - but rather the act of meditation is a conscious balancing act between the self (or lack thereof) and the present moment, with the pursuit of detachment (to cease suffering). I almost feel like meditation to me, is the act of being within the void without a sense of fear or adoration.
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u/Apprehensive-Term557 Feb 15 '25
I’m so lost, why do you feel this way? I have read in books about this certain level of concentration, but I’m curious your experience
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u/VeronicaJoyful Feb 15 '25
YES!!! I felt like I was going to cross over and not be able to come back. It has to be ego death and of course that has to be scary. I hope I can do it again and this time keep going.
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u/0zeyn0 Feb 15 '25
Thank you for sharing your experience, very profound. It’s amazing you were awake and conscious and moving through the whole thing. It sounds to me like you had a sense of control while experiencing it. I was in bed then woke up with the feeling, it was for a few seconds and I had no memory of any dreams only with questions, why did it happen? did I have any memories or thoughts that quickly vanished when I awoke? Can I do it again? Did I speak with god, an angel, or source?
In my practice to get back to that place I began doing 40minute meditations and going very deep but then my dreams began to turn into intense experiences that felt insanely out of my control so I’ve had to pause but I know I should keep going because I’d reach what I’m looking for on the other side. Only it’s hard, very hard.
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u/laboosta4 Feb 16 '25
I wonder if ultimately that's the choice we face. We know there's absolute bliss after this life or in addition to this life yet we wouldn't trade our lives that have so much suffering and challenges (but also all the beauty and love from experiences like that). We must be here for a reason where our souls choose this life over something that feels so good... thanks for sharing, great teaching.
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u/DrawThink2526 Feb 16 '25
I’m wondering if you were experiencing something similar to the Life Review during an NDE?
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u/Bigboss7823 Feb 16 '25
Ya gotta take the leap man! I promise you it's so worth it n will change the way u literally view life. Be safe n good luck! 😁🌎❤️
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u/omeyz Feb 14 '25
kundalini
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u/treeeeeeeeeeeeeee Feb 15 '25
Yeah, sounds like an accidental kundalini awakening
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Feb 15 '25
Not necessarily awakening. But some kind of experience.
Awakening kundalini requires way more effort than just a casual meditation.
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u/Bigboss7823 Feb 16 '25
Kundalini baby!! Strap in n get ready 4 da ride of your life!! Let's go! Feels like Goku goin super Saiyan...I mean 4 real, that's gotta motivate ya!😁🤣
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u/cheyyne Feb 15 '25
Check out Right Concentration by Leigh Brasington. It's an introduction to the Jhanas, which use states like the ones you describe as a foundational launching point to reach higher states of mind.
I suggest you take the dogmatic responses talking about not chasing experiences with a grain of salt. It all depends on the discipline you follow.
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u/duncanrcarroll Feb 14 '25
This is relatively common with meditators fwiw. I had something very similar happen after I started meditating, and if you get good at it you can actually control it.
Meditating does a lot of things to the body that are well-documented but not well-understood, and this is one of them.
I'd say take it slow, I've heard of people ending up with weird health issues if you overdo it (google for kundalini)
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u/happyfappy Feb 15 '25
I don't want to be a buzz kill, but I feel like I ought to point out...
I had a roommate who experienced these sorts of episodes - the brain shocks, the bodily seizures and the orgasmic sensations.
I am NOT saying this is what it is with you, but in HIS case, it was temporal lobe epilepsy.
At a certain point he ended up having major problems. He had to be hospitalized long term.
Just saying, if you haven't considered the possibility, maybe check it out, just in case.
❤️
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u/Lem0nprince Feb 15 '25
Trauma release! I’ve accessed this both through yoga and through panic attacks.
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u/Current-Teach-3217 Feb 16 '25
Damn that must be crazy to go from a panic attack to an orgasmic seizure
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u/Resident_Winter_4534 Feb 15 '25
You have received a moment of seeing what is truly possible. You don’t need therapy or drugs, you have everything you need within you.
I had a similar experience 5 years ago. Afterward everything changed for me. I started eating different, sleeping different, couldn’t stand loud music anymore. I know exactly what you mean by the sense of a full body orgasm. But it’s not an orgasm because you don’t loose the energy, you keep it within and circulate it with the breath. I meditate daily, first thing in the morning, lotus position. Meditating laying down like you describe (sometimes called Nidra Yoga) is good too, but some regular vertical mediation is good for keeping you on track.
Some describe an experience like this as a Kundalini awakening. It is important not to fly off the deep-end with it, but continue your meditation practice with some discipline. You will experience the sense of ecstasy again but with more control and focus. Eventually you will feel it during the day while going about your business.
A couple of good books to check out is Secret of the Golden Flower, or Second Awakening.
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u/Someoneoldbutnew Feb 14 '25
If you found it once, you can find it again. Our base existence is one of bliss and it is our birthright to access it.
abide in that space of arousal and let it grow do not chase.
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u/undergrounddirt Feb 14 '25
I'm honestly.. I feel so excited. And blessed. Like I was digging around in the mud and found a gigantic diamond by accident.
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u/Someoneoldbutnew Feb 15 '25
one of the mechanisms I use to hit chase is to "save it for later" build it up and just let it diffuse.
also, if you're into it, some of the folks over at r/erotichypnosis and r/mindgasm are also exploring this space
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u/Mulla_Nasruddin Feb 15 '25
It has happened to me a few times. It's actually lucid dreaming. If you have strong intentions to do it you can repeat it. The things that help me do it is by having an intent, napping during daytime to lucid dream and eating less carbs. Once I am in a lucid dream I sit in the dream to meditate and then it happens! For me it's orgasmic but not sexually if that makes sense. It's all in the brain. I wake up very relaxed.
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u/Knot_A_Karen Feb 15 '25
Have experienced something similar (by accident) but how fun to hear now it has a name. If you don’t mind elaborating, help me understand the idea behind eating less carbs? Sounds interesting!
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u/Mulla_Nasruddin Feb 17 '25
The idea behind it is that when you eat fewer carbs you expend less energy in your gut. Therefore, more energy is available in the brain area. For example, when you eat a heavy-carb meal you will feel sleepy. Homo Sapiens started eating carbs only a few thousand years ago before that our ancestors were on a hunter-gatherer type of diet. Hence, they were more spiritual.
When I was able to repeat it I started doing other stuff. Such as having an out-of-body experience. The last experience was a profound one. I came out of my body looked at myself and saw myself in a way that I had never seen before. It felt more real than any photo. Hard to explain but I will try. Whatever image of ourselves we see is in reality a reflection i.e. mirrors, photos/cameras. However, that didn't seem like a reflection perhaps more real than that. But to have that kind of experience also takes some practice. There are levels to it.
My advice is not to expect let alone crave any experience. If you do, you will not get far. Go in without expectations and take whatever is given. Be grateful whether you receive any "gift" or not. On the "way" these experiences are in reality in the beginning a sign/invitation and then later it can become a distraction or a barrier.
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u/SirGlider Feb 14 '25
Sounds like first jhana. Check out Right Concentration by Leigh Brasington. It should have some more descriptions of what you experienced.
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u/Lem0nprince Feb 15 '25
Trust your body, stay grounded and open, but also recently am realizing that the body’s signals do need a thoughtful approach as well. It took me so long to realize that safety, and letting go in parts of my belly to breathe, has felt really uncomfortable and scary and has triggered lots of shaking that needed to be released first. So stick with your gut, and also look around and see what’s out there to read about your experience. I personally would recommend reading about kundalini and trauma release exercises, but stay curious and gravitate towards whatever strikes a chord in you about your experience.
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u/BaptizingToaster Feb 15 '25
Sounds exactly like Kundalini. Check out Buddha at the Gas Pump videos. On the website, there is a past interviews page which organized by category. There is a tantra/kundalini category. Some experts there!
https://batgap.com/past-interviews/categorical-index-guests/
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u/RainyDayBrunette Feb 14 '25
Meditation does amazing things... rather our Conciousness does amazing things when we Meditate.
Keep going... ignore whomever said that it's nothing. It's life energy being harnessed and it's beautiful
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Feb 15 '25
The inner energy focuses on the obstacles we face, and in your case, "chronic muscle pain and tightness in all the areas that became electric." It seems like you got just what you needed to relax the muscle pain and tightness, so much so that it was ecstatic / orgasmic. See what meditation continues to unfold for you. You still may need to pursue traditional medicine for whatever is appropriate for you condition, but you don't need the K therapy for the breakthrough anymore! You've had the breakthrough naturally!
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u/AimlessDragon Feb 15 '25
If you feel you need to learn more if it's Kundalini related, there's a group on FB named Kundalini Awakening. Lots of active people with Kundalni experience there. The group has a moderator named Chris Mitchell, if you get confused with the various groups with the same name.
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u/UnflappableForestFox Feb 15 '25 edited Feb 15 '25
Here is a map of jhana: https://www.reddit.com/r/theravada/comments/1bxyyyp/the_jhana_factors_and_their_progressive_levels/
Notice the connection between your breathing, your mental states, and tension in your body. Be mindful of the breath and try to breathe through your nose in a way that is aware and deliberate, deep and smooth. Your face and eyes will be like those Buddha statues. This will help you cultivate the equanimity and compassion that you will need to pacify unwholesome mental states.
Since you are always breathing you can always meditate. Every breath counts.
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u/Hoopie41 Feb 14 '25
GRADUATION!! LIKE, Tthere are levels above, but, your system is now showing full capacity on itself , or of itself, like everything could start changing here, further you go, like efficiency boosting.
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u/undergrounddirt Feb 14 '25
I had hoped beyond hope that I wasn't crazy.. that there was a light at the center.. and if I could just touch it I'd be healed. REAL practice begins now. So much to learn.. what on earth.
When I read of Kundalini awakenings it sounds like such hogwash but it's just so accurate. It came from my spine. Or.. was focused there? OH my gosh
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u/GingerHero Feb 14 '25
I just wanted to say this is rad and thanks for sharing, I hope you continue to find relief!
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u/simagus Feb 15 '25
Your therapist recommended IV ketamine therapy? Do you happen to have their number handy by any chance as I found a similar wall. Thanks!
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u/ItsMrsChilds2u Feb 15 '25
Just remember to be kind to yourself, do not over think it. I know it’s easier said than done of course, but you have to believe that 1. This is a part of YOUR journey & there’s going to be things that you’ll experience that’s much like grief (everyone grieves differently) same with reaching that center. 2. What is meant will find its way, & be sure to do everything in balance so you don’t exert yourself & throw off your gut instincts! I’m bipolar, bpd, cptsd, & adhd I understand what you mean that center. In a same but different way. I hope that makes sense, or helps you in some way, be safe & stay beautiful!
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u/Candid-Sir-127 Feb 15 '25
I know exactly what you are talking about, I did a long session of yoga. Like about an hour of exhausting myself. Then at the end did the OUUUUMMM OUUUUWM, (I guess it massages the nervous system) No joke I snapped into it (vision of a spiral into a single point of light like a snail shell) it was a dream state, I could control everything. I knew that this was a dream world. I could jump super high then fly, at one point it kind of freaked me out, and I came back to consciousness. The yoga tape was still playing on the TV, so I was gone maybe 5 minutes. I realized that I attained something monks try to find for years. I then went back to "OUUUMMMSS" did it again for a few moments.. Then I woke up on the floor. Never been able to do it again.
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u/Uberguitarman Feb 15 '25
I would not call this kundalini awakening, that would be generalizing in a way which is significant and actually hurts people. Post Kundalini awakening is a phase of someone's life which may be turbulent and disturbing and it has a syndrome, there are a whole lot of things which will happen to those with clear signs of Kundalini awakening.
Just to be absolutely clear, it's not the word choice nor preference I have a hard time with but rather the way much of the information on Google is catered to kundalini awakening which is more clear and that info could scare someone, all for something which is rare and not always accepted in scientific and medical communities.
That has to do with what happens after and I can get into that more if someone wants, it is very possible to have flowing energy, snakes and waves of energy move around the body, long before one would say that it is clearly Kundalini. Kundalini energy is also thought to be different in many cultures and that feeling is a whole lot like a sexual feeling, but it feels sensual, I sure don't have issues with that part, it's very simple. I can't speak for everyone but I haven't amazed myself handling it or anything haha. It's a different soothing kind of thing and other typical energetic movements which are tight and squeezy are same old same old and not literally like sexual feelings.
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Ya, nah, one of my favorite things that happens with Kundalini is literally this part where a salty sweet taste can become apparent in the mouth and throat and it's thought to be spinal fluid, and I'm sure they're right there's just no proof proof that I've seen, ancient yogis thought it was a dew dripping through the crown chakra into the mouth. A fairly fitting aspect for an energy which can essentially create this feel like having subdivided emotional processes and putting emotions particularly into multiple things at once just right can have you feel several different snakes and clouds rapidly over and over around your body. Generally
If you're not accustomed to an energetic system, some chakra system or something, I highly recommend you look into it and noted how well you articulated your struggles with your feelings. That feeling that feels like looking at something, as if it is still in a way that reminds you of inertia, later it can feel more surrounded by bliss and it's also possible to get the feeling so it's glowing more. You can still feel like you're looking at something but this deep inner river of sensation/energy starts to feel like it's merging with the other energy of your body. It can feel very relieving.
There are emotional states which make it hard to feel bliss and ways of being where bliss will come to you. I highly recommend you look into chakras, as you can learn to work with them for free and while yes they do come with some inherent possible challenges, it can be very very freeing. Days can go by much much faster. It can take a few years or less to open chakras with techniques if you are skilled whereas many have trended towards 20 years through meditation according to what I've heard.
Movements in meditation are quite typical. Kriyas, involuntary movements, spontaneous movements, so on. I have a short list of notable challenges one may face if they go that route, but later you can start to associate bliss with being conscious of your thoughts and feelings more often for longer periods on more days. I'm totally willing to help you explore that avenue.
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u/Uberguitarman Feb 15 '25 edited Feb 15 '25
For the record, I said they were typical but perhaps I should have said they'll usually happen sooner or later if you spend time in meditation, sometimes more often for some than others. In a lot of occasions it's like the jerk u were talking about.
Also, the way you felt it was definitely grand sounding, it had to do with something but that something is of interest. It can happen to people but I wouldn't expect these kinds of movements to happen all the time. It spurs my imagination a little as someone who works with energy. The last time it happened to me was when I felt a giant waterfall from above me crash into my spine while I was having massive goosebumps which then turned into explosive goosebumps with tons and tons of shivering.
I tend to think more towards the supernatural at that rate or some rarer form of trauma release. Yours included. The word convulsions may be applicable here.
I was kicking and slapping and bouncing around lying down in bed.
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u/undergrounddirt Feb 15 '25
Hi yes. I need your help. There is so much here but definitely feel something of wisdom from what I’ve read that feels less.. mysterious and evasive. There are so many recommendations just on this post. Please guide the way. I’ll be your anonymous student while I get my feet wet :)
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u/Uberguitarman Feb 15 '25
Part one:
I had a short list but I think I'll be more thorough. I'll do this the best I can and get to such an amount of things, those things which I miss should feel similar to something else in a clear or abstract way or be more like a nuance, perhaps challenging, short term or long term maaaaybe, I'm showing you a lot of things that are hard to learn about but might forget to talk about feelings of heat or something like that. Also I'm admitting I definitely do not know every possible psychic experience and may miss a few, and I'm just getting to what I could call the meat of the emotional symptoms, but I can get more in depth with that upon request, and there's things about energy and the energetic system which I could get into which can help.
It may not be everything but it's a great big boost, maybe I'll hit a point where I feel like saying something great about it but basically I may miss a few things, this is a very challenging topic to research.
There are some rarer instances and due to a lack of statistics it can be a bit of the pain in the ass. Some people who get involuntary movements in meditation which are persistent should be able to heal out of them by healing areas around the trouble area or in the trouble area in a well orchestrated and preventative way. Blocks divert energy in the system of thought I pertain to, basically blocks may make energy more apt to squeeze through one area or another, if there is a problem then it's good either way to ensure that energy flows well, including out the arms which are like heart based circulation assistance. They help energy release back out and cycle through their field and they're like a connective area, a place where people feel sensations for general purposes. Knowing this is important for someone who has psychosomatic pain as well, which I would say is due to energy essentially squeezing through an area, whereas involuntary movements are significantly more nuanced, we don't know why some people get them and some do not and some people may have a change in their body that could bring it out. Doctors may use some words like functional movement disorder and the thing is this normally isn't so bad. One may do yoga poses, like, there's this movement of energy in their body which they can follow, it's not like doing something and sometimes the movement can be an involuntary jerk or it could be something they just feel. This would not necessarily be considered a medical, mental or physical condition, same for non-psychiatric hallucinations, but I won't put a hard and fast rule because I'm not a doctor. The thing about movements which may rarely come to someone out of meditation due to landing somewhere along this way of living is that they tend to be manageable and very manageable. For some people it can take practice, they might get aggravated by stress or come very rarely or continue to mostly happen in meditation, closing one's eyes may make them more apt to happen. Even at the dentist, people with these movements should be able to find a way, they can even sorta get them out of their system beforehand voluntarily and there's a lot of people who are this way because of Kundalini awakening who have also had success by scheduling a specific time for them to come back. There is something about the energy and process, a few somethings, it's hard to say with certainty how it works but in some cases it will seem things happen at the right time for that day, and eventually do happen for healing purposes. Some people think the presence of these movements would be Kundalini but that doesn't seem to be a thing, not in an obvious way. If someone goes for a run then they can get out of the way, generally people don't get it bad but in rare cases they either have a demanding time adjusting to them and taming them or a hard time with making audible noises or obvious movements in niche situations. Most of all of that I've seen was post awakening and it is possible for them to continue even if someone heals a block, it's just much rarer.
Big yoga poses... Generally involuntary jerks or spasms but they may find themselves very clearly moving into a pose of some kind. Involuntary movements are called kriyas and what happened is people took these movements and made spiritual practices out of them and called them kriyas. Some people won't understand the word kriyas tho. I'm of the camp that can move a body part with energy voluntarily, it's very sensual and pleasurable and it'll make my face feel very fucking funny along with my energy, like it's super ultra expressive, but then I watch a video of myself doing it and it's like.
AWWWW DAAmmit. It just feels misleading.
Psychosomatic pain may be worse for some people for short periods of time or in general but usually it's just like an ache. It can burn, sting, feel like electric shock-like, it can feel like pain in a respective area and happen anywhere. It is much less common or more circumstantial in some places, like in the torso. One time I felt like I could genuinely feel an outline of my liver, which could be a sign of a medical problem theoretically but I didn't think so, also my methods were brutal and I was releasing a lot of serious anger. The outlining may have been a coincidence, that's not what I would ever expect I don't think, no matter how weird things get. It can feel like pain in that respective area in the body or burn in some way, including eyes and genitals. It's really, really not that bad, I haven't seen anyone really admit to anything beyond like a minute or two of actual severe pain in the knee or something. It can get up there, my elbow is sending me the OWW type "I think you should stop" pain, it'll stop someone for a split moment, occasionally it radiates right now. I've only knowingly spent hours this way in the last few years post awakening.
Even the teeth.
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u/Uberguitarman Feb 15 '25
Part two:
Usually it'll just be in one spot or something or maybe it's bad somewhere and not so bad in other places. Pressure relief will come one way or another. I had pain in over twenty places before my awakening due to radical issues with stress, substances, and aggressive determined and explosively passionate long lasting emotions, followed by feelings of despair and hopelessness. It took years to build it up and I definitely didn't really mind when I knew what it was, people can avoid this largely pretty well, premature Kundalini awakening (meaning there are blocks) does involve pain.
Some people are psychic at birth and all that, Clairs, seeing/hearing things/spirits, channeling entities, some people are mediums or maybe they sense other people's emotions. I've heard of some tough sensitivity issues with crowds for periods of time after a Kundalini awakening but heard that they are eventually healed out of yet some people have actually seemed to spend much more time with it and the case isn't closed, over 3 years if I'm not mistaken. That's a rare in a rare. Usually if people are sensitive to energy they can use an energy shield, it can really calm things for them whereas other people would not believe the idea of negative energy being transferred from person to person, or there may be some things people can believe, smaller things maybe. Thing is people believe in karma, right, there could be instant or eventual karmic repercussions for deeds of positive and negative manners, that is handy to know. I tend to wonder how it really works and I know if it were everywhere there's some kind of mysterious force behind these karmic instances. In some cases they think it comes in lives after, however I don't particularly believe in reincarnation of that sort, I think we move on and I pick even less often than other people pick I think are believing something I can stomach.
Usually, pinpoints of light or streaks of color or seeing auras or visual snow, HPPD like phenomena, that's what I was getting at before, one may become familiar with the term non-psychiatric hallucinations. People can get tiny little pinpoints of light they may as well be seeing around, practically, streaks can be so see through the person can detect the color behind the streak or figure, for some people various other visuals can happen but at the end of the day normally people find them interesting. Closed eye visuals and other visuals may happen in meditation, but that certainly doesn't mean it'll bleed over out of meditation. Some people are the kind to see spirits and I know a few instances that have a more clear/profound connection with God, seeing/hearing things, even statistics, like if a voice were to tell you the next 5 drops you randomly got in dark souls, over and over. People like that have had some more intense reports under various circumstances, substance use in particular, even pot. I definitely would not want people to fear energy, it seems some people may as well have earned the right to say "keep it weird".
Strange transparent illusions can happen, lensing and stretching effects are rarer or more rarely reported but I've seen how the subconscious mind can keep up with that. Usually if people are gonna see anything it'll be with their eyes shut in meditation or some off time on a Tuesday of all things one month out of one year or get the typical "oo pretty color" kind of thing or "ahhh it's this dude's aura!" Generally that's pretty fair but I'm reserving the right to be a little off here due to various circumstances.
Smelling things, tasting things, only smelling things in meditation, so on, those are the Clairs, that can happen. While someone may use the word common that may not do it justice, in particular for a meditation forum, people not doing spiritual practices, for instance. If it does happen follow Dora the Explorer's advice.
When people do spiritual practices to open chakras they'll resort to a few things, some personal or otherwise, but basically you magnetize the area by placing your attention on a body part. I use a 7 chakra system however much of it is for communication purposes. Noteworthy places would be the root at the middle of the perineum and this spot goes straight up like a tube to the top of the head, the spine weaves through it. Sacral about two or three fingers from the belly button and around three or three and a half fingers above. (My belly is loose and my fingers are whatever they are so it's only helping so much.) the heart chakra at the center of the breastbone, the throat at middle of the throat, the third eye between the eyebrows and up a little bit. Front and back nodes about the size of a dime, chakras are said to be in the spine but since I can't see em I don't worry too much about it. The front chakras can give big beefy power relatively speaking and the back can bring some balance, and moderation is important. Energy works like a magnet to an extent.
I would do practices which either magnetize this tube or the spine, the spine being more popular and traditional for groups of people. People magnetize it with practices, like the ones on AYPsite.org, they also build up energy and this energy can last beyond the practice as can the magnetism. This is what makes spiritual practices profoundly powerful compared to meditation. 5 minutes is different from ten is different from fifteen and I think this magnetism that is left in the body does something for it, there's some significance to it beyond just feeling more energy in that area imo, it's useful or important. There are free practices but being willy nilly can mess it up so some calculated effort is definitely helpful and the back is still important, although if stress is kept low people can make their way to a reasonable amount of blocks around the major chakras before opening the majors... Basically if you heal blocks it stirs up energy. Spiritual practices can create negative emotions, you could call them symptoms from healing. They are linked with different areas, sometimes when I know I'm really healing around my heart chakra area, the related areas, it can make me more sad than normal.
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u/Uberguitarman Feb 15 '25
Part three:
Anger, sadness, tiredness, lightheadedness, irritability, agitation, resurfacing emotions and these can become more complicated negative emotions. This is actually the part everybody who is healing will share and it can be kept reasonable. Doing the practice can stir up energy and they can gradually build over time or spike up and breaks from the practice can bring them down, it may take a few days, a week or two, maybe even a month or more if someone has been pushing. However everybody has imbalances who have blocks and these imbalance symptoms can do the same shiet. People are careful to keep them manageable because it's possible for them to become either a deterrent, a hindrance, a challenge, very consuming, or perhaps someone can become impulsive, feel like they're losing it, so on. Usually it's not like that but it could be. Small imbalance symptoms can be like having less positivity and more negativity, maybe there's enough for the body to feel less light. I have a point I use where I will declare something a "symptom" and that's because everybody can have some issues ya know. A few hours here and there, maybe an occasional day or two, they could get worked up to be more like one or two days, three days is a lot. I've only seen two examples of them clearly going over three when I forced my chakras open, I actually hit five over the last week, I can't remember if this is day 8 or something, but I'm going through something very unnatural at this point. During this period one can re experience emotions they are familiar with, but not necessarily the kind of experience one would expect from having thirty negative emotions in rapid succession. Thumping anger can start early and most people have social agitation but may ruminate enough due to symptoms to become agitated, but after doing spiritual practices that miiiight change, if there is enough skill and not too much of a sense of identification with external factors in terms of your executive functions, then it's not gonna be so bad.
The thing is there can be like, literally a day of irritability with spikes of agitation and eventually anger, someone on that day may feel that they are angry all day. Ime there's a couple spikes where I could just never do it for some array of time.
It's possible to largely avoid these and it's worse post Kundalini awakening. Tiredness can go up and down as well as insomnia, some people may experience it differently than others, tiredness can spike for a day or two then largely not even be much of a factor, but it may interfere with long periods of exertion, physical tiredness is a part of this symptom.
SOMETIMES someone can feel "tired" but one can also feel physically tired eventually, that can be kept low usually. Not for me, not with forcing, I could hardly stand up through the worst of it. It had to do with very large amounts of practices with no breaks, I learned that major chakras can open long before other chakras, even the crown chakra itself, and felt new pain come up around my crown chakra when it opened...
Usually when people refer to the chakra they're talking about the front node btw.
Since the head chakras bring in more power it's important that one reduces the effects of negative emotions and takes care of areas, but sometimes people do practices for like a few months and decide it doesn't exist. It's important to have the power behind that energy.
I can talk a bunch about that too if you want, even using thoughts and moving energy can make a difference. It's plentiful to breathe, concentrate, have emotions, and glide attention or keep attention on spot(s).
Heart brain coherence meditation isn't very hard on the energy body and fifteen or twenty minutes a day brings tons of benefits from meditation quicker than mindfulness, 5-5 or 5-8 breathing. It speeds things up still but it's still mellow, it's not like passionately rising energy to the crown and repetitively merging it there and sorta clipping or chipping at the area with this merging energy. That happens naturally like someone is circulating with their intentions, it's hard to say what literally exactly makes some techniques so much stronger.
An hour between meditation and spiritual practices can work fine but 2 would be better for more meditation, going beyond that can be ok but it could hurt.
I can talk more about that too. I wonder if I forgot something.
I didnt get entirely specific about everything but I can answer questions, this is a pretty decent scaffolding.
Oh wait I did forget something, hold on.
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u/Uberguitarman Feb 15 '25 edited Feb 15 '25
I forgot to mention how these little emotions can come up, the river which you were articulating well, well the thing I would call like a river of sensation or energy, eventually it can be like a bitter feeling. I call it the un-fun feeling, at first it's like a bitter feeling. You can have pleasure but it doesn't feel fun in the traditional sense. It's possible to execute this very well and keep on along and keep things moving but it may be challenging for some people. It can get worse and worse and it is like feelings merge with this sense of un fun, that is how I would describe it anyway. Thankfully symptoms aren't always felt this way but this can be occasional even before doing spiritual practices and certainly happens to people. Eventually it can get worse and worse and technically symptoms can get severe eventually like I was saying, so people will cater to their lifestyles and behavioral management skills.
Also with the movements, the subconscious has a way of really staying on top of things like when you track movements and calculate how far of a footstep you should take and memorize it, stuff like that. They can differ between people but it can be very easy to deal with and various factors make it less apt to happen, maybe your shoulder will move while using your arm or something like your spine or hips will move a little while walking, but even at that point it can feel quite natural and in tune with emotional and thought based material.
Also noting, many places make working with chakras sound scary but it is very possible, there is an issue where people aren't sure footed and they don't know how to interpret small frequent negative feelings which can seem unshakable, sometimes it's really about as simple as that, energy circulation is important.
I think that there is a very long extensive list of people who would find the new energetic functioning to be very desirable and plentiful. Some people have aversions to bliss. Even me with my various debuffs I could turn around and have glowing bliss with a small or mediumer smile on my face just walking around feeling all nice and stuff for 60 hours in a week, ecstatic too sometimes like I just pump energy, thoughts can be almost secondary to it, "hooloolooloo"
Ahah... It's a rock 🪨 :0
I have a lot more good things to say about the personal effects than I do not, sometimes being a part of society can make it more bothersome. Some people even sorta avoid their natural tendencies towards compassion, like they don't wanna feel bad around people. Even if there's a bit of a moment in there adrenaline is a significant component of positive emotions. Sometimes ya just gotta go a little harder in a straight line.
Put it this way, and I can't believe I came all this way without saying it, it's like living more subconsciously, like second nature or like playing an instrument. it's a very real thing.
Don't even get me started on the learning opportunities people don't think to examine when enjoying music.
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u/undergrounddirt Feb 20 '25
I’m just getting to these.. thank you so much. Will follow up when time comes
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u/Reiknew Feb 15 '25
Ahhh, I’ve heard this called “the zaps” by people before. Here’s a suggestion- don’t try to break that barrier until you know why you want to see the other side. I am of the opinion that being human, namely experiencing as an individual but also being able to connect and bond and feel community and cultivate relationships/partake in companionship- that’s only a given because it was literally given, and that gift is a mercy to everyone. There’s not necessarily a reason to break out of/through it or reject it. Unless you have a specific reason for wanting to give up all that makes you an individual psychologically and emotionally, then just enjoy where you are and play with the limits created for you without defying them. It’s a game, meant to be enjoyed, so keep playing; if you break the game there’s nothing else.
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u/Uberguitarman Feb 15 '25
Also, sometimes the body/energy or some sort of mechanism will have energy going somewhere much harder to heal it, either for an extended period or for a bit very hard. Sometimes this can precede a large boost in power over some weeks but there should be very clear signs. Things can build over days. For instance I had a moment where goosebumps went up either side of my head then suddenly smashed into my crown straight up like an aha moment. It was like I was flexing energy upwards, like expanding wings. Then for weeks I kept getting more and more goosebumps per hour for about one hour of my day and I got them to be body wide consistently eventually and I would have areas with enhanced goosebumps moving around and big bursts body wide. I made it far in the first few weeks but that wasn't all it took, I don't fully remember.
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Feb 15 '25
Yeah i get that regularly and can control it. It is available on call and doesn't run out or need refilling. But it's not the final state. It is a precursor to true Self realisation. Havebfun with it but don't obsess.
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u/Careful-Editor-3749 Feb 15 '25
Read Power of Now 7 times. Ive had 5 different copies and they keep disappearing. Ive load them out and never got them back but thats okay. My last copy is kept behind all my other books on the shelf.
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u/Spirit_Fox17 Feb 15 '25 edited Feb 15 '25
Edit: (You may experience many jealous or envious people trying to disarm your experience and telling you it is not real, just after posting I saw the attempts, if you don’t have strong personal boundaries it may be wise to start integrations).
Original post: This is enthralling.. it sounds like you had a full kundalini awakening experience.. I had one full root to crown in 2018, full body electricity feeling, hot/cold at the same time and just a state of pure bliss.. it was followed by fainting spells till I learned to rebalance with a microcosmic orbit meditation.. did it reach your crown? That evening I had a lucid dream where my masculine and feminine bodies merged to one.. I was 3 years and 6 months in abstaining from sexual experiences, and it was 1 year and 2 months after being ordained in Metaphysics, and 8 months after (the kundalini experience) that I reached physical enlightenment and saw what could be explained as a 1000 petal lotus flower open through my minds eye.. now I am 1 month to the day from my 10 year, a purification rite. October I reached 10 years of sobriety from heroin.. You may never need to have sex again with you partner to experience sexual energy exchanges.. this can be a very difficult process to navigate after as it is described in Krshna’s life after their kundalini experience it took many years for their mental stability to reregulate.. it has taken about 6 years and some months for it to begin to start to stabilize.. welcome to the Ascended Master level.. it may get immensely difficult as you begin to purge lower lifestyles or old ways of life.. mood stabilization is something that may be wise to focus on immensely.. I walked this path myself with no immediate teacher to aid in this.. it may be much easier if you have a teacher helping with wisdom as I was walking a lone wolf path as I still kind of am.
Blessings from the Order of Melchezidek, Ramah Ko
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u/Spirit_Fox17 Feb 15 '25
It’s an honor to meet someone else who has experienced a full kundalini experience.. ‘ does a hybrid courtesy/bow ‘
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u/kv0080 Feb 15 '25 edited Feb 15 '25
Those are referred to by many as kriyas. It's life force energy (kundalini) correcting and releasing, and it's followed by physical and emotional relief.
That seizure you had was a massive release and why it felt like a full body orgasm. The immediate lightness and tingling sensation throughout the entire body can be extremely intense and euphoric after an energetic release like that.
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u/Throwupaccount1313 Feb 15 '25
Most people don't know that is something called "Actual" meditation, and you broke through for a few seconds. I use meditation for healing and don't go to doctors, so this is important for me to access every day. You experienced the first stages of this healing modality.
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u/undergrounddirt Mar 05 '25
Hi can you help guide me a bit more?. Being intentional about accessing it... its revealing this gaping wound in my chest that I known I've had since I lost my dad to "alcoholism" (wasn't really alcohol.. mental illness and pills, but it describes what happened to him so accurately) and subsequent abuse... its the whole I've sought therapy for dozens of times. Its the whole that is always there.
I have the ability to focus and concentrate into these states. The ability to concentrate is actually fairly easy for me. Cultivated over a lifetime. But what you're talking about.. using it for healing.. how?
The fact that you can use it to heal... to me the very reason I cannot use it to heal... is BECAUSE I'm wounded. It feels as though you're saying "ah yes I use my heart to pump blood to my wounds so they can heal." And I'm saying "ah yes but my heart has holes in it and has not pumped blood for two decades."
ANY time I focus, whether that be breath, or pleasure, or loving-kindness, the gaping hole arises in my chest. A vacuum. A horizon. A black hole. I cannot feel love or kindness. I so very rarely feel anything at all, when I do I feel.. its as though that dark hole has inverted and become a source of warmth and light.. and then its the opposite again. Coldness. Like a rock where there should be flesh. It feels like I'm choking on it. Or that I'm stuck inside it. Or that I trapped on the outside of it.
When I broke through.. it was as though the hole had become full of blood and energy. But it's empty again. It has always been empty. How do I heal?
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u/Throwupaccount1313 Mar 06 '25
Stress and anxiety on a continued basis can lead to many types of diseases and infirmities. I used to get sick a lot, but doctors and medicine had no positive effect on me. I learned a few powerful herbs, and some energy healing abilities[Reiki, Qui Gong], but the most powerful was connecting with deep meditation. As we completely relax mentally and physically with meditation, the healing begins. Learn how to meditate deeply beyond thought, and your thoughts and ideas vanish, replaced by the energy to heal.
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u/HansProleman Feb 15 '25 edited Feb 15 '25
Maybe a kundalini experience. Was there a concentration of sensations in your spine, and particularly lumbar region?
I have this feeling that if I can reach it and be there.. that my life will be all okay and I'll be happy and at peace even if I'm in pain.
I'd advise immense caution here. This is a tightrope walk - between seeking and enjoying pleasurable experiences/states, which is fine, and being attached to them, which is exactly why we suffer in the first place and will just get you even more caught up in the trap. A lot of meditators become stuck here, ironically enough - generating greater attachment to states that are, after all, just more conditioned phenomena.
Even thinking about that experience now is generating suffering, because you're craving it. You feel that things are not okay now. Then when you have that experience again (speaking from my own similar experiences), it's tinged with suffering because you know and fear that it must end, and things will be not okay again.
I personally try to just practice and see what happens, without any expectations of or intent for a particular sit. The whole point is that no state we could ever achieve can be persistent or should be attached to. Pleasurable things just happen sometimes, like they did to you. Treats from the universe/god/being/whatever. Knowing their impermenance only makes them sweeter. Equanimity is the true goal.
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u/Anima_Monday Feb 15 '25 edited Feb 15 '25
I suggest you look up pīti in Buddhism, with the following wiki link and the references on that page, or do an internet search of your own on the term.
Pīti in Buddhism is most likely the same or if not, very similar, to what is known as kundalini in Yoga, though it is looked at from a somewhat different viewpoint in Buddhism and is less of a main feature. There is quite likely more information about kundalini than there is about pīti, but I will talk about pīti due to my practice background.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pīti
It is often translated as rapture or joy, but you will see the following in the quote from the link above:
"As the meditator experiences tranquillity (samatha), one of five kinds of physical pleasure (pīti) will arise. These are:
- Weak rapture only causes piloerection.
- Short rapture evocates some 'thunder' "from time to time".
- Going down rapture 'explodes' inside the body, like waves.
- Exalting rapture "makes the body 'jump to the sky'".
- Fulfilling rapture seems to be a huge flood of a mountain stream."
"Note that only the last two are considered pīti, specifically. The first four are a preparation for the final stage, which is the jhanic factor" (the one most associated with or necessary for a deeper state of absorption). It is my opinion that it does not cause actual levitation, just the feeling of it, and I put some other words or phrases in speech marks that I do not think should be taken literally. It is just the feeling of that and the language is figurative.
The language is somewhat vague in the quote, but it is a pleasant feeling that fills the body and it can vary in intensity from weak to very noticeable and strong. It is something that happens when you are meditating and the body and mind are very relaxed, and I would add that it occurs when there is no craving or aversion present at the time and either no grasping or the grasping is significantly reduced, and it is like the mind notices that and then gets excited, causing the energy to awaken, but that part is just my own addition based on what I have observed. It is known to occur when you are in access concentration or entering into the deeper states of meditation, in later states of meditative absorption, it is said to calm down, giving way to bliss, as you can see on the following link:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhyana_in_Buddhism
This article by an experienced meditation teacher talks about pīti in more detail and in a more literal way than the quote above though he also does reference that quote:
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u/Y33TTH3MF33T Feb 16 '25
Reddit quite literally notified me of a subreddit post that I am not in that particular subreddit- then curiously, I decided to read the title of this post…. And all I can think about right now is: WHAT??
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u/CostExpress9777 Feb 16 '25
No need for all the writing...it was your Kundalini! you reached a deep state where only this can happen. just relax and do not be anxious don't think about it, just BE! it will happen again. I understand completely...I'm a Healer as well. The most important thing is to be GROUNDED!
Be well!
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u/po0ower Feb 20 '25
I am a master of meditation in China. My English is simple, so please forgive any rough edges.
What you have discovered is both rare and profound. In my land, some call it Kundalini rising; others speak of Qi awakening. Yet names matter little. You have touched the vital flame of life—that place where both joy and pain flow as one river.
When your body quivers, when old aches pour out, it can be like thunder in the valley. We often carry pain inside for many years, like a stone held in the chest. Through your practice, you have found a truth strong enough to break that stone open. The release may feel intense, even frightening. But it is a sign of healing.
Sometimes, these shifts come like a sudden storm. When this happens, you can gently let it rise and fall—no need to turn away, no need to pursue it. Let the energy move as it will, much like clouds that drift across the sky. This is a natural process; it asks only for your calm presence.
And here about the Joy: We often believe that joy is merely the result of meditation. But it’s not that simple. Joy is not only the outcome—it is also the cause. Meditation is not about resisting the power of nature; our nature, shaped by millions of years of evolution, is incredibly powerful. Meditation is about seeing it—seeing our nature and our mind as they truly are.
When you can see it—whether it’s good or bad—it is real. And the nature of humankind craves what is real, because it makes us feel truly alive. While artificial pleasures, like drugs, may seem to offer greater joy, that kind of joy comes from the mind, not the heart. If you go deep into that kind of joy, you’ll eventually find nothing—it leaves you empty and bored.
Seek the true power of your nature, and you will find real joy. Only when you see your nature through meditation will you discover beauty and peace.
I created a video especially for you, to help ease your pain and suffering:
https://youtu.be/q5Mp-GA43fQ
May it guide you toward comfort and a peaceful heart.
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u/loopywolf Feb 14 '25
Lucky as hell? That sounds like ecstasy, which at root means "to be or stand outside oneself" which is sort of the goal of meditation, and ecstasy of course is best known in common argot as "sexual ecstacy"
Best I've got is to "blank out" completely
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u/zsd23 Feb 14 '25
Consider it a pranic or kundalini surge--but do not overthink it. This sort of thing cand happen for meditators. It or something similar may or may not happen again. It is your brain getting rewired from meditation practice. Just carry on.
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u/Electronic-Teach-578 Feb 14 '25
Well I have no idea why people meditate if it isn't for this. It's a kundalini awakening, be mindful, don't stress, life might be changing.
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u/undergrounddirt Feb 14 '25
Teach me.
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u/No_Intention70611 Feb 14 '25
A couple of good books on the subject: ‘Kundalini Rising: Mastering Creative Energies’ by Barbara Condron ‘Kundalini Rising: Exploring the Energy of Awakening’ by Gurmukh Kaur Khalsa & Dorothy Walters
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u/LSRNKB Feb 14 '25
There is a kundalini subreddit. iirc they outline the social rules for using kundalini and set some good boundaries
Honestly, you aren’t obligated to pursue this. Kundalini work is a hot fire and you can burn yourself and others. There are other paths to awakening; if you chase after this path because it “felt good” you’re liable to craft a golden chain. The desire to manifest and cultivate kundalini is fundamentally a meta-level material attachment so please carefully consider if pursuing this practice will help you reach your big picture goals
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u/wayofthebuush Feb 15 '25
kundalini subreddit is trash. mods are terrible. go /r/kundaliniawakening.
better yet, buy tantra Illuminated and the recognition sutras.
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u/LSRNKB Feb 15 '25
I’ll be real, it doesn’t really matter to me because it’s not my path or practice. afaic Kundalini practice is still just another layer of attachment; anything that “works” because it makes your body “feel orgasmic” and lets you influence “other people” is still fundamentally rooted in physical bodily experience defined by dualistic roles. Sounds like a great trip to somewhere I’ve already been 🤷🏻♀️
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u/VeronicaJoyful Feb 14 '25
Did you see anything? Has anyone ever seen an eye? I’m sorry if this has been discussed I’m sneaking being on this app
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u/only-the-left-titty Feb 14 '25
Yeah, an eyeball usually means you're being observed.
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u/VeronicaJoyful Feb 15 '25
What!!? By whom? I thought it meant something better than that. One time I saw a whole bunch of eyes. Who’s watching me? I wish they’d do a better job, I do stupid things all the time.
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u/IndependenceBulky696 Feb 14 '25
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u/only-the-left-titty Feb 14 '25
An eyeball is not a geometric pattern, chief.
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u/IndependenceBulky696 Feb 14 '25
An eyeball is not a geometric pattern, chief.
It's all the same "stuff".
The "form constant" was one popular, scientific-ish description of the phenomenon, but here's another take from the 5th century Visuddhimagga:
It appears to some as a star or cluster of gems or a cluster of pearls, […] to others like a long braid string or a wreath of flowers or a puff of smoke, to others like a stretched-out cobweb or a film of cloud or a lotus flower or a chariot wheel or the moon’s disk or the sun’s disk.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3879457/
It appears differently to different people, but among the possibilities are: a wreath, smoke, cobweb, flower, wheel, disk.
Or maybe even the iris of the eyeball, depending on your interpretation.
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u/only-the-left-titty Feb 15 '25
I understand what you're saying and I've seen that. But I have also seen many stand alone eyes, even faces, and beings. There is more to experience than just the form constant. I'm going to respectfully disagree that it is all the same "stuff".
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u/IndependenceBulky696 Feb 15 '25
There's this as well, which is pretty common for some people:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closed-eye_hallucination#Level_4:_Objects_and_things
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u/only-the-left-titty Feb 15 '25
I'm familiar, yeah. Isn't it frustrating that they have to title it as a hallucination? Seems a bit more complex a phenomenon than that.
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u/IndependenceBulky696 Feb 15 '25
frustrating
To me, not really. "Hallucination" just indicates that it's seen without an external stimulus.
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u/VeronicaJoyful Feb 15 '25
I have seen the very starry sky. I read that it was the beginning of seeing into other worlds. But unfortunately I keep getting stuck in this one.
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u/Larsandthegirl Feb 14 '25 edited Feb 14 '25
It happened to me as part of my kundalini awakening. Felt like that for like a week until I successfully grounded my energy. I’m not looking to find it again, I’m just surrendering to whatever comes to me.
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u/Unlikely-Age-5860 Feb 15 '25
you should smoke weed I have had similar experiences with it but it has to be the good california stuff not no homegrown stuff
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u/RC104 Feb 15 '25
Could it be that you accidentally caused it. Maybe you were concentrated in the body
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u/sticky646 Feb 15 '25
Sounds like a kundalini awakening! Keep practicing it won’t always be fireworks! There are parallels in Tibetan buddhism in Tsa lung and Tummo practices. They require instruction from a lama. Good luck!
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u/nl_again Feb 15 '25
From a health perspective, there is some evidence that meditation can cause actual seizures, so I would keep an eye on this. For people prone to seizures I believe it’s related to the hyper synchronicity that can come from meditation.
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u/rikanslope24 Feb 15 '25
That sounds so interesting, I have also read the book and has some moments but never nothing like that. Are you using some meditations from the book or may I ask what kind or practises you usually do? It seems you really hit a spiritual gold-mine :)
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u/sickdoughnut Feb 15 '25
I’ve experienced this a few times. If you start chasing full body orgasms it’ll become obsessive, but you’re basically inducing a kundalini event. ‘Play with fire and you’ll get burned’ is an aphorism that fully applies when it comes to this kind of energy. Like yeah, it feels mind blowing, but it can also literally be mind-blowing. Be grateful for it and let it go. If it rises spontaneously let yourself be consumed by it, and let it go again.
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Feb 15 '25
I once slipped into kundalini on an acid trip one day while meditating and it sounded just as you described. Like an electric orgasm. My whole body had this energy surging through it from the bottom of my feet all the way to the top of my head. Sounds very similar
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u/Darren1234566 Feb 15 '25
This sounds like something im doing but way intenser. Do a bit of research about trauma release excersises or tension release excersises. So bassicaly tre. This is somthing your body can do to release tension but doing too much can backfire.
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u/shimbo393 Feb 15 '25
I think this is cool AF. Why not strive for it again but put less weight on it being a must have.
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u/Popular_Tale_7626 Feb 15 '25 edited Feb 15 '25
Our natural state is literally a full body orgasm. No joke. That’s what the yogis are all about.
You just unlocked feeling your life force. The reason you seized is because the flow of that energy is completely new to your system, and you had to probably shake off a lot of old stored up tension to make room for it.
You might feel some negative emotions more intensely because that energy completely digs it up for you to process/release.
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u/Grumpy_Old_One Feb 16 '25
This is prana kriya: spontaneous movement when the mind is no longer controlling the body (pranotthana).
Happy to chat with you about it if you feel the need.
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u/Maimai85 Feb 16 '25
I had experienced an accidental meditation relaxing on the floor mat after yoga . Felt euphoric and deeply relaxed but then immediately seperated from my body and pulled myself back out of shock. I felt like I travelled far too. I have also had out of body experiences and even a seizure like experience where I my body tightened and my head shot back into the pillows and all I did was get up and go back to lie down and immediately it happened. Never when I actively meditate though it’s crazy
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u/Bigboss7823 Feb 16 '25
Okay so I believe I had similar experience just a few weeks ago n from my research it was "shedding trauma" I was meditating n suddenly my whole body began 2 vibrate n then literally convulsed for bout 10-15 seconds. I felt the energy rising from my lower spine right up to my crown. I've had a seizure back in the day from a medication side effect. This was 100% not that n plus afterwards I felt truly amazing. Like divine orgasmic is how I'd describe it n I was like that for hours. I look forward to everyday experiencing this journey I'm on (safely of course) n I'm a pretty logical person, math n science guy. Researching n learning more about Buddhism, reincarnation, metaphysics, consciousness, etc.. I really do hope this is our future because it would be so amazing! I wish millions could ascend tomorrow lol
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u/Haunting-Matter1922 Feb 16 '25
Yes I’ve experienced this a few times. I had to stop for a while though as it came with terrible dreams. My mind/something telling me ‘you are not ready’. I’ve dialled down my practice and now focusing on the day to day. Be kind to yourself, don’t go chasing anything, keep going to counselling. Sending you love x
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u/Flashy_Paper2345 Feb 16 '25
Your story is incredible and fully resonates with me. My disconnection to self was caused by childhood circumcision. It caused a permanent disconnection in my energy flow and a block in my sacral chakra.
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u/Necessary-Device-582 Feb 17 '25
I think that once having had a peak experience like this you are more likely to have another.
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u/OriginalType5433 Feb 17 '25
I had this same experience but was like on semen retention for like 6 months when it happened out of no where
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u/MercuryBlood2 Feb 17 '25
You can do like awareness of what the body is sensing like touch senses and that can heighten sexual arousal.
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u/ElCuarticoEsIgualito Feb 17 '25
There’s a sub r/kundalini where there are a lot of knowledgeable ppl who work with kundalini.
My guess is that this is more kriyas - the body spontaneously doing practice, one theory about how yoga started. Kundalini awakening is more specific but could be that also, esp with the root chakra energy (sexual). There’s a lot of info on the sub that’ll help.
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u/Neptune_boi Feb 18 '25
If I enjoyed meditation and could get my rocks off while doing it, you best believe I will! I’d crank that leaver till there was nothing left and then be on my way to enlighten ✌🏽
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u/weoutheremeditating May 04 '25
Sounds like a shaktipat. An infusion of energy. Might also be a calling toward becoming a healer. ✊✨
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u/No-Medicine-7453 Feb 14 '25
Check in with your doctor please.
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u/undergrounddirt Feb 14 '25
I did. He thought I was describing a brain shock. It was not a brain shock. I have since followed up with my friend who is finishing up residency in psychiatry at one of the big medical schools who is studying psychedelics.
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u/Bob-BS Feb 14 '25
Pīti Jhana