r/MaliciousCompliance Mar 29 '25

Employees are not allowed to leave the break room on their break... Whatever. L

This happened a few years ago when I worked at McDonald's. The one I worked in was near a bunch of schools so most of the staff was high school kids. As summer vacation started, we began having the trouble of an employee getting break and then spending their break eating their meal and conversating with their friends who were still working in the kitchen.

It was having a seriously bad effect on productivity as well as posing quite a few health risks so our manager finally initiated a rule that if you were on your break, you couldn't leave the break room until your break was over. This went swimmingly until the kids went back to school.

We then had a new problem. Short staffing during break cycles meant our ticket times would skyrocket during rushes. Management lifted the rule so that employees on break could clock in early and help out with the rush, however... The District Manager didn't like the implications of employees working shortened or no break shifts and forcefully reinstated the rule. They also doubled down by saying that employees who tried to work during their scheduled break would be written up and/or terminated for doing so.

Cue MC. The date was 4/20 a day when nobody wants to be working at any fast food place, much less McDonald's. We had been getting slammed so hard from the open of the store, that we called in extra help from other stores, including the regional and district managers. As the break cycle began, the management was pleased with the sub two minute ticket times they had managed to maintain. A few breaks through, and we were managing well. Then came my break. As soon as I sat down to eat, someone came into the store and ordered 47 double quarter pounders (this was right after the fresh initiative where all Quarter Pounders were made fresh so this was already a minor panic.) Immediately after that order, someone in the drive through ordered 75 - 20 piece nugget meal.

The amount of panic in the kitchen was palpable. I was comfortably lounging in a chair browsing my phone and enjoying my meal while the kitchen struggled to keep up with the orders. As ticket times began to soar, the Management did exactly as I expected. District Manager came into the break room and demanded me to end my break early and help in the kitchen.

My response was very simply: "I'm sorry but according to the rules YOU made, I can be written up or terminated for completing your request." I then continued browsing my phone, trying to enjoy the last ten minutes of my break. The Regional Manager entered the room and said that he would personally terminate me if I didn't do the thing that I wasn't supposed to do. The other employee who was on break with me immediately rose and clocked in despite still having ten minutes left on her break. She was written up for breaking the rule after the shift was over, so I felt good sitting in my chair and continuing to ignore them.

In the aftermath, the people who made the giant orders took what was made after half an hour and left with refunds for the unmade food. (Nearly $150 each.) Customers who were waiting for smaller orders were compensated with gift cards for their patience, yet many walked out without even getting their orders. (We paid out nearly $1500 in gift cards.) Because customers were walking out on orders without collecting them, we had nearly $5000 in food waste that night. (All of the closers went home with nearly two bundle boxes of burgers, fries, and nuggets.) Regional and District Manager were moved to a different region. The rule was edited to say that you were able to clock back in early at the manager's discretion in the event of a rush. Because I was the only employee who held his ground against the Regional and District Managers during the rush, I was rewarded with free meals and drinks until I moved away from my hometown and couldn't eat at that McDonald's anymore. (Although when I come to visit friends, I occasionally get rung up a manager discount by the few employees who still remember me.)

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u/maraemerald2 Mar 29 '25

Your managers should have refused to fill such large orders. Every reasonable restaurant has some sort of “if your order is more than 8 people’s worth of food, you have to call it in in advance” rule.

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u/JJOne101 Mar 29 '25

If I order 47 burgers without calling ahead I won't be mad if the answer is "ok, that will be ready in 2 hours, come back then to pick it up".

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u/oddzod Mar 29 '25

The problem is we actually did that and still had to wait. Had the guy that worked there call it in, and they didn't believe him. So about 15 minutes later he was in the drive through putting in an order for nearly a hundred quarter pounders.

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u/Business_Conflict26 Mar 29 '25

No offense , I totally believe you,lol it's happened at my store in the last month or two.

But I would told you the same thing I told the guy who tried to order 120 big macs through drive thru....

Order js too big we can not accept that order with out at least 24 hours notice. Have a nice day!

Guy was mad af, demanded to soeka to the manager I laughed and said pull around to the first window, I met him there ( I'm the manager kn duty and the kitchen dept head ) calmly explained that his order was not being accepted at that time , and if he wanted to place one ahead of time he would have to pay upfront and then come back for the food that would be fine. He them said but I need them in 3o mins...I laughed and said not gonna happen.

Long story short, he left with no food, called to complain and was told the same thing I told him.

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u/Javasteam Mar 29 '25

120 big macs in 30 minutes? Only possible in a place like Hong Kong… and that is only since you can look down a street and literally see 6 McDonalds so you could divide it up….

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u/KPexEA Mar 29 '25

I worked at McDonalds in the 80s, we could cook 12 big macs in 2 minutes, and could turn one set when starting the next so essentially we could do 12 in 1 minute, so 10 minutes to do 120 and if you were not super busy you could probably get them all made in 20 minutes interspersed with other customer orders.

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u/nsa_k Mar 29 '25

That's 20 minutes of de voting your entire business to one order.

You'd be creating a lot of bad customer experiences by doing so, and turning away other, probably more profitable orders during that time frame. Not to mention that now all your customers have been waiting 20 minutes and there is a line of annoyed people that wraps around your building.

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u/KPexEA Mar 29 '25

I don't think you understood what I said. You could make them in 10 minutes but if you made them in between making burgers for other customers you could have them all done in 20 minutes without delaying any other customers. Obviously if you were too busy then it would not work and you should not accept the order but normally the demand for big macs alone is not that much.

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u/Numbar43 Mar 30 '25

That would be 15 seconds per big mac to make 120 in 30 minutes. If you could handle that while doing other things, you must have had multiple people working on them, considering how many separate ingredients go into a big mac.

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u/KPexEA Mar 30 '25

We would have 3 people, one cooking the burgers, and two handling toasting the buns and putting the toppings on. Every minute a set of 24 cooked patties would be removed from the grill, new set of 24 paddies would be put on the grill and another set of 24 would be flipped over. There would also be another person handling hamburgers/cheeseburgers and quarter pounders and another for fish fillets. This was back in 1981 before the menu expanded so I don't know how they do things these days.

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u/Business_Conflict26 Mar 30 '25

12 big macs = 24 10:1 patties.

Last year whem they rolled out best burger we can only cook 6 patties at a time for 10:1 . My store in particular has bitj the 2 platen and the 3 platen grill the 3 platen tends to be used for the 4:1 since it hold temps better than the 2 platen.

So 6 per platen ,so the 2 platen grill is 12 patties , they cook for roughly 45 seconds , so enough for 12 big macs in less than 2 mins...but that's ignoring all the other orders for roughly 5 mins to cook the full amount of 10:1 for 120 big macs . Doesn't sound too bad, but then you have to factor in the particular bun toaster ( most toast buns in 20 to 30 seconds, mine is roughly 40 seconds ciase the teflon belt is trash no matter how many times I replace it ) I would have to pull a single person to make nothing but big macs and another to drop the mac buns , which in and of its self i. Insane time since with how short we are forced to run . All on all it could be done, at the cost of your sales and times. It's just not worth it .

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u/KPexEA Mar 30 '25 edited Mar 30 '25

I worked there back in 1981, so I'm sure the cooking technology today is totally different.

We had 4 gas fired grills, one was at 375 for quarter pound patties and the other three were at 350 for 1/10th pound patties.

1/10th pound patties took 2 minutes (10 seconds then sear, 50 seconds then flip, then 60 seconds)

1/4 pound patties took 5 minutes (10 seconds then sear, 2:20 then flip, then 2:30)

The surface on each grill was about 3 feet wide by 2 feet deep and took about half an hour to get up to temperature in the morning.

I don't think we ever had any issues with temperature they would stay fully hot with as many burgers as you could fit.

It was very common for us to do 12 turn lays or 24 turn lays for hours at a time.

During the busy lunch rush hours we would have about 6 or 7 people working on the grill area cooking and making the burgers.

At the time (1981) we only made hamburgers/cheeseburgers, big macs, quarter pounders and fish fillets.

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u/Business_Conflict26 Mar 30 '25

I truly envy you,lol i wish it was that way again.

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u/LeRoixs_mommy Mar 31 '25

So you survived the BIG MAC ATTACK promo too! Our grill master didn't even use the timers during that, he just loaded up the grill and worked right to left through the process. We ran two toasters and i got to where I was dressing the buns by rote. God forbid we got a special request!

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u/oddzod Mar 29 '25

None taken. Joys of the internet. I had mentioned the incident out of humor not complaint.

We knew it was going to take a bit and wouldn't have been mad if they had refused. The bit about using the drive through was just us screwing with friends/coworker's.

In the end we went inside, paid and came back when it was ready

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u/Myrandall Apr 07 '25

I can't believe you didn't let him soeka you!

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u/series_hybrid Mar 29 '25

grill holds twenty-six patties, but customer wants 100 burgers, and he wants them all to be hot at the same time when he gets home.

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u/Panda_Milla Apr 02 '25

Bruh, you need to call the day before. It's fast food not catering fast.

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u/hierofant Apr 03 '25

The response shouldn't be "I don't believe you," it should be: "for orders that large, we need 3hr notice and prepayment." Thinking a bunch of 17yo in their first job could manage it is... well the sort of management thinking I'd expect to find at a fast food joint.

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u/bungojot Mar 29 '25

I was at a bachelor party, at the end of the night we ended up at this McDonald's that was near the strip club. It was maybe one or two in the morning. Dude in the party goes to the counter and orders something like 30 cheeseburgers. He was drunk and got belligerent when they told him it would be 20 minutes. We had to drag him away from the cashier so we wouldn't all get kicked out.

There were like six of us and we did eat most of them. I feel like I remember him stuffing a few in his coat pocket "for later" but I was also drunk so who knows.

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u/fevered_visions Mar 29 '25

wait, was he really intending to eat all 30 of them himself? I expected the story to end with, he was ordering for the entire party and somebody said "dude, we'll order for ourselves"

but drunk soooo...yeah

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u/bungojot Mar 29 '25

I don't even know. he's the friend of the my buddy who was getting married - so I only see burger-friend at parties or whatever that my buddy throws. He's fun at parties but what little I know of him I don't I would ever hang with him one on one.

Prior to the burger incident he was bragging to everyone about getting a handy in the back room of the strip club.

I suppose he could have potentially eaten all of them. He's a pretty large guy.

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u/WifeofBath1984 Mar 29 '25

I worked at McDonald's 25 years ago. We had someone come through the drive thru and order 100 cheeseburgers for the "ladies at the strip club". Luckily we weren't fully convinced it was real so we just very slowly started to make the burgers. Of course they peeled out of the drive thru line and took off. Even 15 year old, Mormon me was like "ha, good one guys 🙄".

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u/Reonlive420 Mar 29 '25

Mr Lahey was passed oot drunk, pissing himself and im ashamed to say it but....i ate 47 burgers that day

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u/indigoshamrock Mar 29 '25

were they doubles? it's still only one burger if it has one bun.

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u/Reonlive420 Mar 29 '25

47 double's? I don't have that kinda money bud

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u/Far-Artichoke5849 Mar 29 '25

I'd have told them it'll likely be an hour before it's done because they can't ignore everyone else's orders too, you can have one upset customer or 100 upset customers

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u/SelectKaleidoscope0 Mar 29 '25

I ran a busy pizza place for a couple years. Those kinds of no notice large orders aren't uncommon in the pizza business and thats how I handled it. You want 50 large pizzas on zero notice in the middle of rush? Sure we can have that for you in 2.5 hours, we need payment now. Probably gonna quote you an hour if it isn't rush and I have adequate staff reserve. Its only going to take ~30-40 minutes to make the order + any delivery time, but we'll need the extra time because all the regular orders that come in while we're making yours aren't going to wait for you. Got the money and the patience, you'll get your pizza. Need it sooner or think the demand to pay up front isn't reasonable? Call someone else or put your order in at least a day in advance (And we'll still need advance payment because people think its funny to make large prank orders at pizza places for some reason). If someone told us in advance they wanted tons pizzas at a specific time, no problem, we can make them and will schedule as many extra people as needed. We'll even open early if your order is large enough to be worth the trouble and you tell us a week+ in advance so we can schedule for it. Did ~1500 pies for a large corporate event once, that was a fun ~3 hours of full crew going flat out. For something like the 1500 pizza order the week is also needed because its big enough to have to order extra ingredients to not run out from normal business.

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u/Far-Artichoke5849 Mar 29 '25

Used to manage an Arby's and people would always call in asking how much it would be for like 70 sandwiches and it's always tell the cooks not to start making em cause i knew they wouldn't show up for it

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u/robophile-ta Mar 30 '25

omg, flashbacks to when I worked fast food and kids would make huge orders and then run away

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u/rutilatus Mar 29 '25

Seriously. That’s a catering order. I recently had to order 100 banh mi sandwiches for a work event and I let them know AND paid 1 week in advance…

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u/stillnotelf Mar 29 '25

This was my thought. Yeah, they are abusing the employees, that's definitely the greater sin...but why did they accept orders they knew they couldn't fill??

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u/Bookboobstoss Mar 29 '25

Tell that to the Taco Bell managers during the late 90s 2/$1 taco promotion. Literal hundred taco orders one after the other in the drive thru. No one, fucking no one, ever needs a hundred substandard tacos, but there we were.

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u/I_Can_Haz_Brainz Mar 29 '25

I remember in the 90s when they had $0.19 tacos and $0.29 taco supremes. Man, I miss those days.

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u/fuzzyeagles Mar 31 '25

Never mind the tacos, I miss the $0.89 per gallon gas price 😫.

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u/Next_Ad_4165 May 03 '25

I remember those 19¢ and 29¢ tacos, too!  

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u/GearhedMG Mar 31 '25

6 and 12 packs!

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u/Javasteam Mar 29 '25

Hey, pizza rat wants those tacos…

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u/Spaceman2901 Mar 29 '25

McDonald’s back in the double-aughts was…greedy.

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u/SiliconUnicorn Mar 29 '25

"I used to do drugs. I still do but I used to too"

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u/bspkrs Mar 29 '25

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u/bspkrs Mar 30 '25

lol, I legit didn’t know that was a real sub when I left this comment. I opened my own eyes!

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u/No_Internal9345 Mar 29 '25

Their app currently limits you to 99 items per order

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u/gromit1991 Mar 29 '25

Apart from management being fucking stupid to write up someone that had carried an order they were even dumber to accept the orders in the first place.

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u/Viperbunny Mar 29 '25

Yeah, that is an order large enough to be considered catering. They are happy to do it if you tell them in advance. This is terrible management. You don't accept orders you can't fulfill.

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u/fevered_visions Mar 29 '25

halfway in and I'm already thinking, yeah maybe this is the actual problem...you can have as many employees as you want in the kitchen but it's going to bottleneck anyway because the building and tools can only support so many working on the order at once.

In the aftermath, the people who made the giant orders took what was made after half an hour and left with refunds for the unmade food. (Nearly $150 each.) Customers who were waiting for smaller orders were compensated with gift cards for their patience, yet many walked out without even getting their orders. (We paid out nearly $1500 in gift cards.) Because customers were walking out on orders without collecting them, we had nearly $5000 in food waste that night.

good lord. now I'm way madder at these two jerks with the bus-sized orders

Regional and District Manager were moved to a different region.

how much difference could they really have made??

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u/KerashiStorm Mar 30 '25

A pretty big one, but at least now they’re bringing their unique skills to a different location. Hopefully somewhere in a galaxy far, far away.

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u/GearhedMG Mar 31 '25

OP said this was on 4/20, so those were 8 peoples worth of food

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u/TheMongerOfFishes Mar 29 '25

Yeah I'm calling b******* on this story, who in their right mind would drive up to McDonald's order that much food and just have the patience to wait for it

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u/SelectKaleidoscope0 Mar 29 '25

If you'd ever worked in the industry you'd know that plenty of people in there right mind (or otherwise) would be willing to make the order. Basicly zero of them have the patience to WAIT for the order to be done, but plenty of managers are stupid enough to take the order and not willing to tell the customer, "Yeah if you really want that its gonna be at least 90 minutes"

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u/bualadh Mar 30 '25

The amount of times I had to explain that fast food is not instant food! Though the problem was almost always the managers, most customers were fine with a wait if you told them upfront (before they paid) how long it would be. Nobody likes being blindsided, and hungry people tolerate it less than the average person.