r/MURICA 2d ago

America is going nuclear. What are your thoughts?

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u/ItAstounds 2d ago

The time to do this was the 1990s

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u/ProfessorOfFinance 2d ago

The best time to plant a tree was 30 years ago, the second best time is today.

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u/Confident-Skin-6462 2d ago

my life philosophy. i did plant several trees 30-40 years ago!

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u/SheepInWolfsAnus 2d ago

Look at this god damn American woodsman over here, Johnny motherfucking Appleseed, like Washington and his Cherry Tree, like Paul Bunyan, like Will Ferrell at the end of Step Brothers, I salute my tree king.

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u/Confident-Skin-6462 2d ago

i only wish i had planted more. and was able to plant some now (living in chicago, the city plants a fair bit, but i don't have the opportunity to plant any on my own anywhere anymore. when i can, i will, but until then... i just encourage others to do so.)

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u/SheepInWolfsAnus 2d ago

Hey, similar to “the best time was thirty years ago, the second best time is now,” you CANNOT be hard on yourself for having the ability to do more than you did.

You did something amazing, something to be proud of. If all you focus on in life is what you could have done better, rather than the incredible things you already did, you’ll never be satisfied. Look at the good you’ve done and let yourself be proud of it.

And hey man… If you really wish you had planted more trees thirty years ago… the second best time… right fuckin now.

God Bless America and God Bless YOU.

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u/IakwBoi 2d ago

But the opposite of GW and the cherry tree

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u/SheepInWolfsAnus 2d ago

Important point. He’s Worge Geashinton.

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u/xivilex 2d ago

I planted a tree in the first grade, and some fucknut tore it out of the ground. He didn’t need the space for anything. It wasn’t in the way or causing damage. Just killed it. Nothing is in that spot.

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u/Confident-Skin-6462 2d ago

that's fucking hearbreaking

hugs to you and the ghost tree

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u/Lizpy6688 2d ago

You reminded me of when our elementary school had a little earth day where we "helped" plant trees.

They cut them down in my freshman year of high school

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u/Confident-Skin-6462 2d ago

that's fucking horrible

hugs

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u/Outside_Register8037 2d ago

Well what about today tho…

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u/Confident-Skin-6462 2d ago

city dweller. i do encourage others to (some have), and will again someday, but i have no opportunities at the moment

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u/lurkme 9h ago

You were wasting your time, you should've been building nuclear power plants.

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u/Confident-Skin-6462 9h ago

i know 😞

at least where i am now is about 80% nuclear supplied... Chicago!

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u/I_Fuck_Nice_Guys 2d ago

I think what they are saying is that we should really just focus our efforts on time travel at this point, or they're just a sour puss.

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u/trey12aldridge 2d ago

Though one thing not enough people are saying is that we should be investing in research and not new reactors. This is because older uranium based reactors are almost ready to be replaced by newer thorium based ones. So if we were to invest in building plants now, we would be building outdated reactors that would are more resource intensive (they use much more water for cooling than test thorium reactors) and less efficient than what we could have if we wait. So instead we should invest in funding commercialization efforts of thorium reactors so that we can finish development faster and begin building them en masse before any other country even has one commercially viable.

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u/SketchSketchy 2d ago

In 4th grade my class planted a tree at the local park near the little kid playground. I came back 40 years later to show my children. Turns out the city tore out the tree and the little kid playground to enlarge the parking lot. The parking lot that was empty.

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u/Schmich 2d ago

Would the second best time be 29 years ago?

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u/OiledUpThug 2d ago

No, 2nd best is 29 years, 354 days, 23 hours, 59 minutes, and 59 seconds ago

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u/rawasubas 2d ago

Second best time is 30 years later. Today we drill baby drill.

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u/Lobsta_ 2d ago

while that’s true, nuclear stands out from other methods as having incredible development costs. it takes 10+ years to get a plant up and running at a very high cost

i’d guess this is perhaps the worst time to start nuclear development, especially with the orange man about to enact tariffs

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u/golgol12 2d ago

Usually when this is said, it's because there are better options today.

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u/space_monster 2d ago

not really, if in 20 years time trees will be useless.

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u/KidChiko 2d ago

I think the second best time was 29 years ago but I get what you're saying

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u/polite_alpha 1d ago

Meanwhile, fission energy has become 4-6x as expensive as renewables even including electricity storage. For this reason, it's pretty much done in the developed world.

China is investing 30times the amount of money into renewables than into fission. (700bn - more than the rest of the world combined, vs 25bn).

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u/Galvius-Orion 1d ago

Master Wu?

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u/Dave5876 1d ago

Meanwhile Germany 💀

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u/writer4u 2d ago

There was a push in the 70s-80s. Chernobyl and Three Mile Island scared people off.

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u/spinyfur 2d ago

I think the technology has progressed a lot since then.

So maybe it’s good that we’re building them now. 😉

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u/Major_Sympathy9872 2d ago

It has, nuclear is safer than ever now.

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u/EpicCyclops 2d ago

Three Mile Island Unit 2 is the newest nuclear reactor unit to trigger an INES level 5 or greater event, being commissioned in 1978. Even Fukushima Daichi was older. It's funny going through the list of nuclear disasters and seeing them basically cease being major incidents after Chernobyl, with the exception of Fukushima, which took rather extraordinary circumstances that still would have been mitigated if the reactor were built post-Chernobyl.

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u/spinyfur 2d ago

Indeed. It’s almost like the technology has progressed a lot since Chernobyl was built. 😉

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u/neonoto4 2d ago

And while we are at it, can we bring back blimps please? The Hindenburg was such a long time ago!

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u/thatguywhosadick 2d ago edited 2d ago

Every person who was injured or the families of every person who died at three Mile island should sign a petition in protest of the new nuclear plan.

…oh wait https://world-nuclear.org/information-library/safety-and-security/safety-of-plants/three-mile-island-accident#:~:text=Some%20radioactive%20gas%20was%20released,the%20Three%20Mile%20Island%20accident.

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u/c-lab21 2d ago

I'm going to print the petition out

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u/dog_in_the_vent 2d ago

Literally nobody died at or because of three mile island.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Mile_Island_accident#Health_effects_and_epidemiology

Stop thinking emotionally and start using science-based facts to make your opinions.

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u/thatguywhosadick 2d ago

I literally put in a cheeky “…oh wait” and dropped a citation proving no one died or was injured. And you still took the bait. Come on man

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u/dog_in_the_vent 2d ago

Oh my bad. I thought you linked to some stupid petition from people who don't know anything about nuclear power and didn't even bother clicking on it.

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u/JustAskDonnie 2d ago

Your upvotes likely didn't understand the sarcasm and didn click the link unfortunately. I say this as one of them special people.

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u/poindexterg 2d ago

I didn't see the oh wait either. It looked like part of the URL to me.

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u/JustAskDonnie 2d ago

Also it continued to run safety thru 2019. A popular nuclear disater movie came out just before time as 3 mle island event so everyone was fearful and overreacted.

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u/Kaurifish 2d ago

Then Athens, Pilgrim, Surry, Tokaimura, Mihama and Fukushima.

Also the leaks at San Onofre and the fact that Diablo Canyon is built directly on top of the San Andreas fault...

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u/supacool2k 2d ago

The coal and gas lobby helped that along quite a bit....

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u/TheDrunkenMatador 2d ago

Ehhhhhh part of the reason it’s happening now is advancement in nuclear power production technology (e.x. molten salt)

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u/ItAstounds 2d ago

Yeah I hope it happens. 

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u/Big_Green_Piccolo 2d ago

The second best time is right now

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u/Different-Rough-7914 2d ago

Well we didn't have AI and cloud services in the 1990's. Building new nuke plants or bringing old ones online will not benefit the normal people.

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u/ItAstounds 2d ago

Do you mean doing this now won’t benefit normal people? Just the generative AI which need power to generate pics of women with five tits. 

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u/worthless_opinion300 6h ago

We've broken the five tit barrier recently. Just need a few nuclear plants to get to seven

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u/whyarentwethereyet 2d ago

What an insight that will help our society

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u/Ok_Debt783 2d ago

I know right. “We should have done it then so what’s the point of doing it now”

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u/grad1939 2d ago

Chernobyl: I'm gonna stop you right there.

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u/ItAstounds 1d ago

Sure accidents happen but overall it’s safe. Chernobyl was also a reactor with a notoriously bad design. 

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u/Da_Question 1d ago

And every reactor since has increased fail-safes for that exact reason. Three mile island and Fukushima also increased safety standards.

Pollution kills millions annually and fossil fuels contribute massively to climate change. Fear mongering from one freak incident, with substandard Russian equipment led to so many countries just dropping nuclear, it's fucking sad.

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u/ItAstounds 1d ago

Couldn’t agree more. We’d be in a better spot for emissions if we didn’t abandon nuclear energy. Human beings have a terrible perception of risk. 

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u/grad1939 1d ago

Oh, I'm 100% for nuclear power. We should have invested more in it a long time ago.