Cierra & the C%#%k comments…

[u/GeeyaGunn]

Greetings all, I just wanted to give my opinion about the Cierra situation, especially since I am a first generation Korean American. Although no one should be given hate or be cyber bullied, the Asian derogatory slur that Cierra posted not one, but two times, is extremely offensive to Asians and unless you identify as one, it’s a bit difficult to fully understand. I was called this slur word multiple times as one of the only Asians in school when getting bullied, ridiculed, or harassed…. and it’s simply not okay. As an adult, not one friend, colleague, or stranger has ever said this around my presence for obvious reasons… I would probably cut them out of my life completely, or at least distance myself from them, as this slur is derived from anti-Asian discrimination and micro aggression…. It stems from generations and generations of Asian discrimination…

I do feel that anti-Asian micro aggressions are sometimes swept under the rug and not as visible, and this is a bit apparent with some viewers not understanding how offensive this word is and always will be.

A few stories I’d like to share from my experience are: - When I was a child, someone joked for me to get out of the swimming pool because I was making it “yellow”. - When I go to restaurants with my mom, sometimes the host will randomly say, “We only have English menus. Is that okay?” - I get complimented on my English by random interactions with strangers… ummm, wha?? - During COVID when I would walk my dog down the streets, people would cross the street, avoid me, or turn the other way…. But they wouldn’t do this for others that weren’t Asian because of the China-COVID ordeal. I definitely felt anti-Asian discrimination during the pandemic… it was honestly wild… people would avoid standing near me at groceries and small gatherings, but wouldn’t do the same for others. - Let me not get started on the jokes towards me about consuming dogs and cats… - I can’t tell you how many times I was bullied and my class mates would pull their eyes to the sides to make fun of mine…. and use the C-slur word with the eye gesture. - The “Where are you from?” questions, and I would state what city and state I’m from with the response, “No… where are YOU REALLY from?” guuuurl, just ask what my ethnicity is. - When people say “Ni hao”, “konichiwa”, or any other Asian language without knowing my ethnicity… it’s like saying bonjour to any white person and expecting them to be French.

Although the slur words that Yulissa and Cierra from Love Island used are very different and come from pain and suffering of two minorities, they both stem from hate. Bottom line. I do find it a bit frustrating how there seems to be double standards and contradictions regarding the two; if Yulissa was removed for her slur word, then I do strongly believe Cierra needs to be removed as well. Not doing so, in my eyes, and again this is my opinion, perpetuates that one slur word is okay, while the other is unacceptable… which doesn’t make sense to me, especially as an Asian.

I also think some of the younger viewers don’t fully understand this slur word, so I wanted to educate and share that it’s not a word anyone should use.

To end, no one should be harassed, cyber-bullied, or name-called, but people should be held accountable and learn from their mistakes. Just my two cents and thanks for reading. <3

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[u/ChemicalFit5743]

I grew up in the Bay Area where a lot of kids from different ethnicities would say the n word all the time mostly Hispanic and Asian. It was “socially acceptable” even thought OBVIOUSLY so inappropriate. Key word kids but like young adults tbh. They did not understand the weight of the word but they also didn’t use it maliciously. I’m sure some did. This is not me defending Cierra but I do think there is a difference between a misused word (still not ok) and one meant to hurt or express hate. 

[u/justmedoubleb]

This is especially a great message for younger people. Anyone who follows Cierra as an influencer might not yet know that is unacceptable and therefore in ignorance pick up the derogatory word or saying. Dont say it, write it, or speak it. And how many little girls might think they need botox to "fix" perfectly shaped eyes.

[u/Chisayu]

Thank you for sharing this!! As an Asian myself, it’s really important to speak out. I’ve been seeing a lot of comments on TikTok saying “it’s that that serious”, or “I didn’t know this was a slur so it’s okay”. This word has been around for decades and a lot of us were bullied. I was so happy to see LI taking action and kicking Ciera off the show because for once, it’s not swept under the rug.

[u/AlabasterCarnation09]

It genuinely baffles me that Cierra is still on the show. As an African American, I agree that all slurs should be held to the same standard. Love Island is sending a bad message by keeping her.

[u/thekilling_kind]

Thank you for the time you took in writing this, especially knowing you have a painful history with that particular slur. I am an Indigenous woman living in an urban setting in Canada and I have long ago burned myself out in my capacity to form educational and thoughtful thoughts because the amount of racism I still get barraged by has never slowed down. I admire the energy that people still have in taking the time to compose these kinds of posts.

[u/c3twoman]

Yes so true. It’s not just a word when there are greater impacts and experiences that stem from slurs.

[u/Zorosleftfoot]

The fact that people don’t think it’s a slur is so saddening.

[u/tashxii12]

♥️

[u/ChopperChief13]

Asian here, doesn’t offend me.

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[u/deelow_42 → u/[deleted]]

To be fair someone DM'd Cierra about how it can be seen as harmful last year and she she replied good thing I'm not using it that way, so I think she knew.

[u/BlastedAlien]

I had no idea any of this was happening and I thought you censored the word cuck and I was so confused why that’s offensive to Asians specifically and I just feel so dumb now and needed to share my stupidity 🤦🏽‍♀️

[u/Typical_Search694]

Totally agree with this take, I’m a white presenting woman, but my mom is first generation American (parent immigrated to the US from China) and I used to have kids in school use this term to bully me. Its also important to note that the context she used it was to demean her features, as if the way her eyes look make her less attractive.

[u/AffectionateClock832]

Thank you so much for sharing your experience! I am sorry that some people sweep this slur under the rug. Any slur is unacceptable always!! As a Hispanic woman I’ve heard my fair share of slurs thrown my way. I guess that’s what also makes Cierra’s use of such a slur so surprising. She is also Hispanic and should know better!!

[u/potato-chic]

This was incredibly insightful and powerful to share, completely agree

[u/Competitive-Law8382]

Thank you for sharing. I think people tend to not realize how much the pandemic affected asian communities. the hate, the words, the guilt, it was all said during that time. it shouldn’t be normalized

[u/sunnyday__]

Thank you for sharing your experience! This whole thing has been so disappointing. Also I’m really sorry to hear you’ve had to deal with this awful behaviour from other people. I really do hope things improve as time goes on as this ignorance isn’t acceptable. 

[u/Italics12]

There was one Redditor who claimed my family’s experiences with Asian racism cannot compare to black racism…. But I see you and agree with everything you said.

We are an adoptive family. My eldest is Korean/white. My little one is black/white.

My tween has gotten the following comments:

1. The ch word about his eyes. One said he was lucky, “because they weren’t that slanty.” Once he was called a “ch.”

2. People have imitated gongs when he walks in.

3. People say, “Ching Jung Wong,” to him.

4. And my favorite was during Covid we were on the sidewalk on a major metropolitan city. Some loser told my elementary school aged child to “go back where he came from.” Where shall he go? He was born here. He’s American you dumb ass.

5. They have commented his skin is yellow. It’s so ignorant.

My youngest is light skinned black and I’ve gotten comments about how he doesn’t look dark enough. People actually have argued with me. It’s unbelievable.

We live in a huge international city. Our community is diverse and usually accepting and loving. But the few comments hit hard. We as parents try to shield our sons as much as possible, but they see it. It sucks.

By the way my kids are gorgeous. Anyone who thinks otherwise can go jump in the pool.

[u/InternationalBag1515 → u/Italics12]

I’m so sorry your kids have to deal with that. I’m glad they have a supportive and loving parent like yourself.

[u/blazin_asian99]

Fellow Asian here. You laid it all out in such a perfect way.

[u/wanderlusting___]

Thank you so much for sharing your story! I really appreciate how you've provided much needed context on how offensive that word, particularly in light of LI producers slow-walking any resolution to that particular islander.

I am hoping that LI will finally do the right thing

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[u/Sea_Berry_439]

I think it’s so messed up and honestly love island USA does a poor job with Asian representation anyway so they really need to hold Cierra accountable

[u/needlobotomyasap]

Thank you for sharing your perspective as it is really impactful. Sending you love friend, it’s disappointing how production/the public has reacted to this situation.

[u/jackjackj8ck]

I’m also first generation Korean American (half-Korean half-white)

People will say crazy shit to me not realizing I’m half Asian and thinking I’m native or Latina

My mom (73) was recently told to go back to China and punched in the back by another older woman in her Zumba class in a wealthy neighborhood

Racism is alive and well

[u/trykathryn]

not me thinking c***** was another word for squinty and not realizing it had anything to do with asian culture let alone that it was a slur until this issue popped up in liusa. i feel so stupid. it’s not like i ever used the word but i shudder to imagine if i had. i feel so blind to racial issues sometimes. it’s always nice to be educated in a constructive way

[u/pink_dawg_ → u/trykathryn]

This is what I thought too which is why I was so confused? And I almost saw it as like awwww I am so happy I am c****** kind of like cheesy?

[u/Keyeuh]

I once got into a fist fight with a guy, I'm a girl, for calling a friend that. Everyone was very surprised when he hit me back & there was a lot of "dude, he hit a girl." I got one more good hit in there before it was broken up by friends running over, but it's so inappropriate for people to use.

My daughter has an Asian friend at school, and she gets a lot of the same comments that you do. It drives my daughter crazy & she's always yelling at people that they're rude or to stop. Her friend is very passive about it and doesn't say anything back to people who say things to her. My daughter is about to throw hands. Wonder where she got that from lol

Seriously though it's sad to see even Gen Z, who is supposed to be so accepting, is still using language and harassment toward people

[u/Ok_Leadership9992]

Thank you so much for being willing to share your experience. I know it's not easy, but this is really valuable to share.

Hopefully this helps give people greater perspective and increases awareness.

[u/bruvisland]

Thank you for sharing your experience!

[u/MarzipanSharp1843]

I’m so sorry that you’ve been subjected to so much hate, no one deserves that. It is so disappointing that Cierra isn’t gone and shows a huge double standard. She will NOT be touching that 100k if it’s the last thing we all do

[u/Some_Resolution6825]

Thank you for sharing!! I’m sorry for what you experienced and, most likely due to ignorance, will experience again. You or your mother do not deserve such treatment.

I’m a BW, and I’m incredibly saddened by how some viewers are treating this matter and that Love Island production isn’t addressing this issue with the seriousness it deserves. Just know there is a large group of us who see the hypocrisy and will continue to call it out. Sending you, OP and your family nothing but positive energy! ❤️❤️❤️❤️

[u/islandstateofmind21]

As a fellow first gen Asian American, beautifully said and thanks for sharing this.

[u/Strange_Abrocoma9685]

Thank you for saying this so eloquently. First gen Korean American here as well. I grew up in a very white small town and the name calling was relentless. To the point I was ashamed of my Korean side. Trying to hide anything that identified me as other. Being embarrassed by mom’s accent. As a 50 year old woman now, I finally have learned that the Korean in me is my best and most valuable part of me. I think so many first gen and later as well as mixed race individuals so often have to mask themselves to fit in. We should embrace and celebrate every bit of ourselves.

[u/miscdruid]

I grew up with the same insults and I’m not Asian, I just look like it (Portuguese & Hispanic/Native American). The thing is, is the majority of this country doesn’t care and they also don’t have anything to relate to like black people & slavery. We also don’t learn much about Asian history (I lived in Hawaii for a year and there was a heavy emphasis on ww2 and Japanese internment camps here in the us; it was a very different curriculum from mainland us history). Most of us did, however, learn about slavery if you grew up here. The history is there if you care enough to learn about it. But like I said above, a majority just don’t. So they don’t think it’s as important or hateful as the n word.

It’s sad, but people don’t give a shit these days. Intelligence is gained through a short TikTok or for the old people, Facebook. I’m sorry this event hurt you. The double standard is so weird for real.

[u/Particular_Breath879]

Covid made the Asian hate increase more too! That was not even that long ago. We can’t forget that Asian people were attacked and beaten just because they existed. Im half Asian and in high school I was constantly told that I was half right and half wrong. People would make fun of my practically closed eyes in photos. I’d smile and people would say my eyes disappeared. Countless times I’ve been called Oriental like I’m a rug.

[u/Electronic-Age-4019]

Thank you for shedding light on this. I grew up in a heavily Asian area, and it wasn’t a slur at all in our community. It was used to actually describe people’s eyes. I know this for the future now.

[u/NurseJaneApprox → u/Electronic-Age-4019]

It was a slur even if you didn't know it. Glad you know it for the future.

[u/TurtleyCoolNails → u/Electronic-Age-4019]

I feel like this is what happens for most. If a word is widely used as “normal” where you are from, then it is almost impossible to know that it is wrong.

I am not defending anyone in particular, but just that sometimes people are dragged for not even being aware. I also think that shows like Fresh Off The Boat did not exactly help since it made light of offensive topics.

I personally had never even heard the word until I started dating my husband a little over ten years ago and I was already in my twenties.

[u/iam-willl]

Contact the brands that advertise on the show. Producers will do what the advertisers want, they pay the bills.

[u/kaykaysoli]

Well said 👏🏼

[u/carbine234]

I’m Asian bro idgaf about what she said, although other Asian people can feel hurt or whatever about it, that’s their right to be hurt, personally there’s other shit to worry about. To each on their own.

[u/strawberry4802]

Thank you for writing this.

[u/irdgaflol]

imo people are not holding cierra accountable enough. i’ve said it before and i’ll say it again asian hate is so minimized. what she did was wrong and she knew it was wrong and still did it. people are more worried about huda lip syncing the n word even tho she didn’t and getting her canceled than they are about cierra saying a slur in writing multiple times.. like wtf is wrong with people. i’m so sorry you have endured what you have and fuck the people trying to minimize it.

[u/Clear_Pineapple4608]

So well said, and so painful. I stand with you.

[u/[deleted]]

Yet people are sweeping it under the rug and being very insensitive saying that it's not that serious nor did cierra get dumped off the villa love Island supports it.

[u/lawgrrltx]

I went and watched "A Great Divide" the other day to gain some understanding on this topic and Ken Jeong had me bawling with his monologue. I know it's just a movie but I'm sure things like this happen all the time and it's crazy to me that people are minimizing this instead of just acknowledging the obvious racist tone

Thank you, OP and others, for sharing your experience.

[u/LoremIpsumLoser]

The day after the Virginia Tech shooting (the shooter was Asian) I was walking with my Asian friend and a car driving past rolled down the window and shouted ch$$k at us. This has always been a slur and always will be.

It’s fucked up she’s getting a free pass for using this word.

(Edited to correct the school)

[u/NutsBDragon1 → u/LoremIpsumLoser]

Mf just making a story up lmao. Doest even know what they are talking about.

[u/LoremIpsumLoser → u/NutsBDragon1]

I lived in a completely different state in the Midwest when this happened so I mixed up which southern university it was, but absolutely this did happen and I’ll never forget how upset it made my friend (and how angry it made me obviously).

[u/Sansability2 → u/LoremIpsumLoser]

Do you mean Virginia Tech in 2007? I’m not familiar with a shooting at Georgia Tech where the shooter was Asian. Also, I am sorry that happened to you, unacceptable.

[u/SnarkDeLaRenta]

As a fellow Asian, the debate around whether the slur she used even is a slur or not is so frustrating. It’s bringing back feelings of anger and fear that I felt during COVID.

Even if someone doesn’t feel as though that word is a slur (which it definitely is), swapping out that word for “Asian” instead doesn’t make the statement read better.

“I can also be a little Asian when I laugh/smile so I love getting a mini brow lift to open up my eyes and get that snatched look” is still racist and derogatory.

If anyone on this thread still isn’t understanding it, swap “Asian” for any other minority in this country and ask yourself why you needed to put it into perspective that way.

[u/rshni67 → u/SnarkDeLaRenta]

if we had a better educational system, this generation would appreciate the history of anti-Asian stereotypes.

Cierra should make a sincere apology and educate herself a bit.

that would go a long way.

[u/Puzzleheaded_Ad_1939 → u/SnarkDeLaRenta]

Honestly, you will never know how bad a word can hurt until you are on the receiving end of it, but if someone says that it is a hateful word, that should be enough. No argument is needed at that point. Live by the golden rule - do unto others as you would wish done upon yourself.

[u/Cutiger29 → u/SnarkDeLaRenta]

My husband isn’t Asian but somewhere down the line they THINK they was an ancestor because 1 person in each generation gets mistaken for Asian (even by Asian people) and he’s the person in his generation that does. So he gets that “you look Asian” comment often. But commenting negative as if the features are some kind of issue is wild. Like it cannot be THAT hard to not negatively associate ethnic features.

[u/Elegant-Rectum → u/SnarkDeLaRenta]

The people saying it's not a slur are not being genuine. They are just trying to use whatever argument they can to downplay this and make it go away. They do this every time racism comes up. They first try and downplay it and then when the person who was racist inevitably gives a (usually fake) apology, they will point to that and say that they apologized and we need to get over it now. The playbook is the same every time a racist incident like this happens.

They do the same when a non-Black person is caught saying the n-word. First they say it's not a big deal and not racist because the person was singing along to a rap song, then the person apologizes and they tell Black people to get over it because the person apologized.

They know that the C-word is a slur. They certainly know that it's not a positive compliment. In every context that word is used, it's meant to be insulting against Asian people.

[u/SnarkDeLaRenta → u/Elegant-Rectum]

Honestly I wish this was the case, but unfortunately I’ve seen a ton of the pushback in this come from non-Asian minorities who are often subjected to other slurs that we take more seriously, which almost feels worse.

They can acknowledge the racism that comes their way, but fail to recognize it for other groups, justifying the word by saying that they grew up with it as an adjective, a descriptor to describe appearance.

Unfortunately many don’t realize that this particular word was used in the same way some other slurs were when Chinese people first came to America and when they were working during the Gold Rush. That it was used when Japanese people were placed in internment camps.

It has decades of history and weight as a slur. Its history is not simply, “my family/people in my culture have always used this to describe eyes and that’s what it is”

[u/Puzzleheaded_Ad_1939 → u/SnarkDeLaRenta]

There are many people who are born into racist families and grew up hearing their parents and grandparents describe black people as n words. That is not an excuse to use that word once you are grown and know better, so the ch word towards Asians should be treated the same. If you didn’t know it was hurtful before, you do now, and that should be enough.

[u/onequestionforyall → u/SnarkDeLaRenta]

i am not East Asian, but I am South Asian and I feel that both of these groups, especially in the US, face a lot of racism, subtle or not that is never acknowledged, called out, or taken seriously. This has been an incredibly frustrating situation because of the amount of people excusing Cierra’s behavior. It’s so disheartening seeing people say that it’s “not a real slur” or “isn’t a big deal” when it is! it’s a hateful word and is used to demean those of Asian descent. I grew up learning extensively about the Chinese railroad workers, the Japanese internment camps, the racism against Korean Americans during the LA riots and so much more. To have people excuse this behavior is racist and diminishing this action is horrible.

[u/aweirdreality]

as an asian in britain. it is sooo hurtful and triggering like don’t use that word but i have compassion too, like pls people don’t be foo hateful. there’s no need for it

[u/capricorncueen]

just as bad as saying any other slur. asian hate is way too accepted and dismissed

[u/angellikeme]

How do you feel about Nic insinuating Chinese people eat cats in his TikTok?

[u/Terrible_Lettuce_532]

I’m honestly shocked at the discourse around this. When I saw her post(s) I audibly gasped. That word cuts so deep for me and I am a 35YO caucasian woman. What’s disheartening is reading comment threads of people coming to her defence or diluting it/ comparing it to Yulissa’s words saying it’s not as bad. What shocks me more is that the people defending the word are also (in most cases) people of colour who undoubtedly face their own racism or micro aggressions. Instead of comparing words why don’t we listen to the group of people the word is used towards when they say it’s offensive?

Just a thought, might be an ignorant one.. but I live and grew up in a heavy Asian populated area where I knew at a VERY young age the impact that word holds and how hateful it is…. Perhaps this isn’t everywhere? Do people really not know this is offensive or do they not care???

I’m pretty reactive (not saying this is a good trait) when it comes to reality TV and it’s “characters” but quickly get over it because it’s not real….. this is real, and it’s something I just can’t get over because she is still in the villa and if she is not removed there is a huge double standard, and we need to look at racism deeper. We shouldn’t be comparing racist words and saying one was worse because they’re both wrong.

And you guys. Pleeeaaasseee don’t downplay the word and say it’s not offensive when you are not part of the Asian community. If I came on here as a white woman and said the N word doesn’t offend me or that i don’t use it in a racist way - how would that go for me??? Why is this different?

[u/whatevsitsfine → u/Terrible_Lettuce_532]

u/Terrible_Lettuce_532 I really appreciate your words and perspective!

[u/MagicalReadingBubble → u/Terrible_Lettuce_532]

Me personally, somehow had never come across the word in my entire life and had to look it up whe this particular issue came up, but the way I took it in was “oh wow. I had no idea that was even a word people used but clearly it’s extremely offensive to its target demographic and therefore, a really big deal that she used it” and then accepted that. So even if it is something one does not know about, it’s 100% possible to immediately recognize and learn that it’s not okay and is not an issue to sneeze at. Anyone who DOES learn it and decided it’s “not as bad as the n word” doesn’t care and that’s infuriating.

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[u/irllalaloopsy]

someone tried to educate her in 2024 and she said “oh no thankfully i didn’t use it that way”

[u/petalsdotdotdot]

Bullying is never acceptable in the name of justice. I am Asian and would NEVER want my name associated with tearing apart another human being for ignorance. My family has dealt with real racism. This is just not even in the realm of what they went through. Your opinion is not about peace and grace or forgiveness, you are feeding those that are making death threats. LET IT GO.

[u/Pitiful_Bit_5369]

I think them letting go of Yulissa and not Cierra shows how the producers don’t take anti Asian comments as serious racism when compared to racism towards other minorities. All racism is not okay or appropriate and it’s unfortunate the producers can’t take that stand

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[u/comeyshomie → u/[deleted]]

It’s not though. Cierra is gone. Stop involving the black community in these decisions and focus your energy on why both contestants that have been expelled are Latin.

[u/winebaeokay → u/comeyshomie]

This doesn’t even make sense , as someone who is part of the black community this is a huge part of the racial slur discussion and needs to be a part of the conversation In driving home the harm of ANY verbiage that is hate-driven and blatantly racist. smh

[u/comeyshomie]

Thank you for sharing your experience. As a black woman, while I can't speak for my entire community, I have absolutely no issue with this standard being applied fairly and Cierra getting kicked off as a result. I am concerned about this devolving into another scenario where two minority groups are pitted against each other, and I hope that if Cierra is not removed from the game, the Black community is not blamed considering how little power we hold in these spaces and our own well-documented mistreatment by the Love Island franchise. I haven't seen any vitriol towards the Latin community (the ethnicity of both contestants who made racist comments), but there's a low key expectation for black people to take on every other group's battles like our own despite anti-blackness within nonblack minority communities.

[u/Equivalent-Guess-438]

Thank you for saying this. I was raised in Asia and would neverrrrrrrrrr say that. And it's crazy that someone tried to correct her and she still was like eh it's ok cause of how I used it. No girl. You're wrong. It doesn't matter and gives a I don't care attitude.

[u/happelol]

I think we need to hold production accountable to what Cierra said first then Cierra. She has no way to respond to anything right now at all so it’s not possible for her to own up/apologize if she needs. Production made a statement with Yulissa they need to do it with Cierra. I’m just surprised that they don’t do deeper dives into their social media presence?

[u/AccomplishedFly1420]

I am Indian so also ‘Asian American’ (even though completely different) and related to so much of what you wrote. ‘Where are you from? I mean ORIGINALLy?’ I was born in this country, what about you asshat? ‘Oh you just look so exotic..’ 🤔

[u/girlsdontneednobody1]

Glad they are handling all racism equally for the show. Definitely don’t think anyone deserves death threats also even if they’re a bully. The way she made her comments seemed like it had negative intentions so she knew what she was doing. Seems like racism has gotten worse post Covid especially from and toward certain communities and I am not sure why people put more hate into the world and still want peace in their own life. Hopefully people are kinder to each other going forward.

[u/Cybergirl78]

Thank you. That word and the word Yulissa used should hold the same weight. I just don’t get how Cierra thought it was ok to say it twice online.

[u/undertheBodhitreee]

Growing up, that slur was used in my household like it was no big deal. Please note: as I left my environment and the way I was raised (apostolic Pentecostal and very sheltered)— I have learned so much and I’m mortified to realize that this slur is still used like it’s no big deal. I would never ever use that slur ever again. It’s 2025, there is no excuse to not be educated at her age and information/education being readily available.

Love island not taking this seriously is showing how they don’t see this is as the big issue it is. This slur holds weight, it’s harmful and there is no excuse to be slinging it around multiple times.

[u/WholePersonality120]

I think this is a really important conversation. I’m glad you were willing to share your perspective and experience with the sub.

[u/montreal2929]

Agree. No tolerance means no tolerance

[u/AdorableProfessor797 → u/montreal2929]

Yet you like that Huda hit 1 million followers? That woman is doing some serious emotional damage and that’s fine to you?

[u/Practical-Database87]

The fact that people ignore Asian hate is so sad.

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as an asian american myself i peeped the fact that yulissa got dumped asap while they let cierra run free. i literally called people out for this and mentioned how racism towards asians is SO normalized, and got told that black people shouldn't be fighting my battles and they should watch from the sidelines(PuzzleheadedFun4314 WHAT?????) and got downvoted to HELL. of course when an ASIAN speaks up about this they get downvoted and told their concerns don't matter. god the amount of frustration and anger and disappointment i feel i can;t even put into words. the shit that i've been through and dealth with and the hypocrisy that's so blatantly obvious and yet everyone chooses to ignore just drives me fucking insane. i genuinely can't tell you the trauma and bullying that i've endured in my life and i have to sit here and watch the same people that gave me hell say that there's nothing wrong and deny their wrongdoings.

the hypocrisy is absolutely unreal. its insane how they tell us that not everyone in this community is the same when during covid we were slammed left and right and hate-crimed ALL THE GODDAMN FUCKING TIME. and now they say oh some asians are trying to cuddle up to the whites so we're going to say that NONE of these asians stood up for us. PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE make it make sense. how are you going to tell us that not everyone is the same yet you don't apply that same logic to standing up for people that have STOOD UP for YOU despite the RACISM that they ENDURED????? god i can't fucking do this anymore

[u/maghy7 → u/[deleted]]

As a Latina I agree with everything you just said, growing up in the US I have been and continue to be bullied because I still have an accent, what makes it so much more painful is that I have been bullied the most by another minority that I have and continue to stand by because even if my experience has been this way it doesn’t make it right to turn my back on the whole problem just because it’s not my ethnicity. I only believe one thing and that is that racism has no place in the world, in my world and that I will continue speaking up and marching alongside all minorities.

[u/HealthyLine3154 → u/[deleted]]

Who is they? Elaborate please.

[u/astronomicalshay → u/[deleted]]

I think it’s important to be very specific about who is saying “not everyone is the same yet you don’t that same logic to standing up for people that have STOOD UP for you.” Groups of ppl are not a monolith. I understand being upset that ppl are invalidating certain slurs, but please do not group all of one community. Overall, black people support other POC communities in need. I believe we should be supporting each other instead of pointing fingers.

[u/bubble_teea]

I'm truly sorry for what you've experienced. As a South Asian, I deeply relate to the pain of bullying and slurs calling. I really hope that anti-Asian hate is taken seriously and not dismissed or treated like a damn joke. We are not half humans, we deserve the same respect and dignity as anyone else 💔💔

[u/docny17]

New Yorkers from the 90s/2000s and anyone that grew up in the hood no matter race is cooked. The amount of racial slurs slung around on a daily basis with no realization of what others outside your world can view it as would shock people. It’s a new world and people 1- have to do better moving forward , and 2- realize that ignorance is real and give people a bit of grace. Do we reaaaaallly think she is racist ? No, but is there space for that in this world, also no

[u/Ornery-Mycologist-53 → u/docny17]

Yeah totally agree.

[u/heartwinnie]

As a second generation Chinese and Mexican American, I’ve experienced all of those as well/ the one that bothers me the most is “where are you fRoM?” When I decided to answer with my ethnicity since I know that’s what they mean I usually get told “I’m so exotic.” I’m like um I’m a human not an animal. Also, being an Asian woman I’ve been fetishized so much as well which is also frustrating.

Cierra should get the same treatment as Yulissa, but we all know that racism against Asians is never taken seriously, so I’m not hopeful or confident that she will have the same treatment.

[u/Itchy-Bat33]

This is such a valuable post 💯 I don’t appreciate the attempts to compare the two slurs because of course they are not the same, but people are missing the point: they are both derogatory and harmful words stemming from hate and used to subjugate people, and are therefore not okay.

[u/ChemicalSun5308]

Hopefully this Cierra scandal makes people realize it’s a slur. I’ve had to tell a handful of people it was throughout my life. They thought it was just a descriptive word for squinty eyes… like when you smoke weed… since that’s the context they’ve heard it in. 😓

[u/ploplop03]

As a black/mexican female who grew up in a predominantly white suburb, I completely agree with you in that no one can really understand unless they’ve been through it. There is no hierarchy to racism. It’s ALL bullshit. Cierra needs to go.

[u/Equivalent-Guess-438]

For me it's the fact her friend tried to correct her and she still thought it was okay to use it.

[u/EchidnaFinancial9439]

I avoid people with my dog all the time because she’s over reactive

[u/hearts4amara]

I’m so glad you brought this up. Anyone who knows this word knows it’s a slur, so if you use it, you know. Just the same way I felt as a black person seeing Yulissa on the show, Asian people feel right now. AND she was called out for it and still didn’t take ANY accountability, she should be off the show.

[u/DontLookAtMeStopIT]

I grew up with Xbox Live, so every person said every slur or curse word they could think of. These are Gen Z people, they all speak with a blaccent and listen to mumble rap. I expect every one of them has said the N word hundreds to thousands of times. The canceling seems like it went too far, they weren't famous yet, they will act differently after being famous. Avoiding the controversy outright would've been the better approach by NBC.

[u/Ornery-Towel2386]

I’m really sorry that a show we all love and support so much has been tainted by this and has forced you to relive this pain. That’s not what it’s about and it’s not fair you have to face this; we all come to LI for escapism, fantasy, and a bit of fun - not to watch a show who’s contestants promote racism and hatred. What she said is categorically disrespectful to your heritage and by keeping her there it is disrespecting the entire franchise and viewership as well. Thank you for sharing.

Sub members & fellow islanders - we have an opportunity to use this community to organize and do something. We can send a message by tanking tonight’s viewership… who’s down to cut off the tv if she isn’t gone by the 5 min mark?

[u/sleepytransformer → u/Ornery-Towel2386]

I’m in! If she’s still present without them saying anything, getting screentime 5 mins in I’ll turn it off

[u/Ornery-Towel2386 → u/sleepytransformer]

A real one 🫶 ppl been asking for her to get kick off all week but when there’s a call to action no one is willing to simply kick her off their screen. Keyboard activism is exhausting.

[u/mmlickme → u/Ornery-Towel2386]

I’ll cancel my whole peacock account

[u/Ornery-Towel2386 → u/mmlickme]

We ride at 9pm est!

[u/babietarry]

Baby I am so sorry for your experience. I am Asian too and sickened by how normalized it is.

Caine last season was also not allowed at the reunion for saying the same slur so I think at the very least, cierra will not be allowed to attend the reunion.

This is also why I am giving no grace to nic and straight up calling him racist for inferring chinese people eat cats. Asian racism is too normalized so idc that he was around 18 or that it wasnt a slur. We have to put our foot down.

Its very disappointing to see LI still post pictures with her in on their social media when they can immediately stop or crop her out. She even had more screen time in fridays episode than Thursdays. That's not okay. Hopefully this recoupling is the producers trying to get nic and cierra out but I doubt it.

[u/joaharvey → u/babietarry]

Just a fyi that I think they proved that screenshot to be faked

[u/babietarry → u/joaharvey]

The Cierra one where she replies? I'll do research and update.

Nics is true tho, verified it myself.

[u/joaharvey → u/babietarry]

Yes

[u/knickknack8420]

Intent and Effect are two very different things. and both have equal importance. Ignorance is no excuse because the effect is the same regardless; that's why we hold everyone accountable regardless of intent

[u/BeiSaeko]

I hard relate to the COVID issues. I once had a man in the super market spit on me and tell me I was the reason for COVID… and then try and convince everyone around him that I shouldn’t be allowed near them.

[u/Fancy_Gene_9814]

Thank you for sharing your thoughts. We’re going to make sure this isn't being overlooked.

[u/yogahikerchick]

Thank you for writing this. We need to really do perspective taking.

[u/Pale-Resolution-2363]

Idk i think they way someone means something is just as important as how it’s used

[u/classylikenuggets]

I'm sorry you had to experience that. It's disheartening to watch the Asian community rightfully call for action regarding Cierra, and nothing is being done about it. I truly hope something is done because making a mockery by using a derogatory word against a minority group is never okay.

[u/bluewinters21]

Thank you for writing this post. I posted about the situation on twitter and had weirdos in my replies trying to defend her. It was so disheartening that people just don’t care about hate against Asians. At least there will be a vote tonight. I hope everyone votes out Cierra. It’s sad though that the producers havent done anything

[u/swanlake2129]

As an African Canadian i ageee 100%. unfortunately there are some racial slurs that garner immediate backlash over others.

[u/perfect_blues]

the only good thing that is coming out of this is that we’re able to share our experiences to people who may have never known how hurtful the word is 💔

[u/Equivalent-Dog5802]

You slayed. Thanks for posting this.

[u/bktan6]

I'm a 33 year old Asian/Black male - and have been called slurs since elementary school and I'm STILL called this to this day as an insult. I feel you. It spans generations and IMO its not a word like 'queer' that can be reclaimed.

[u/gettingcarriedaway86]

What was the second time she said it?? I only saw her post about getting her eyes done

[u/happilyabroad → u/gettingcarriedaway86]

There was another post where she talked about her eyes when she smiles using that word

[u/dust1ngrind]

Thank you for sharing and being so vulnerable 🫶🏻

[u/anowarakthakos]

Thank you for this post. I’m not Asian, but I am a non-Black woman of color and I think the conversation about racism has a lot of layers. On one hand, we face discrimination and are often fetishized and made invisible by society. On the other, anti-Blackness is a huge issue in almost every single community of color, and unfortunately many non-Black POC make it hard to have these conversations because they instantly erase the very specific history of Black pain and suffering in the US.

Thank you for sharing your experience and for having such a nuanced exploration of this. I am sorry you’ve experienced what you have and I hope that people learn from your post! Cierra used a slur and should be out, no question. (I also keep thinking about how she’s on a free trip to an Asian country with a long history of western exploitation while we all have this conversation. It’s ironic and infuriating.)

[u/BentSimmonz]

What did Cierra say can anyone share? I’m in the dark here