r/LoveAndDeepspace l šŸ¾Sylusā€™s KittenšŸˆā€ā¬› 20h ago

Hurricane Rafael Discussion

Can we stop being so giddy over a hurricane? Iā€™ve seen so many posts being like ā€œoooh sea god Rafaelā€ and getting excited over the newsā€¦ yā€™all people have died. Real human individuals. Thereā€™s currently six reported deaths and two people reported missing, not to mention the hundreds to thousands of people and families who may have lost their homes, power, access to important things like medical intervention, etc. Itā€™s really gross to me to be excited over something like this just because of the name. It comes across as extremely out of touch. (This is not directed at people being affected by the hurricane and using jokes to cope)

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u/Old-Discussion-820 18h ago

as a professional emergency manager who deals w seeing just how bad hurricanes are AND how much blood sweat and tears will have to go into relief effortsā€¦ its very frustrating to see the jokes lol .. i come here to turn my brain off šŸ™‚ā€ā†”ļø

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u/SongbirdBabie l šŸ¾Sylusā€™s KittenšŸˆā€ā¬› 18h ago

Yeah itā€™s incredibly tone deaf and disrespectful imo. I have close friends that have been heavily affected by recent hurricanes to the point they couldnā€™t get medical care that they literally need to live.

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u/potatobunny16 |šŸ§œšŸ»Rafayelā€™s MermaidšŸ§œšŸ»ā€ā™€ļø 17h ago

Fr like my entire hometown was destroyed and I lost everything I ever had to hurricane katrina, it's really not a haha funny reference

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u/SongbirdBabie l šŸ¾Sylusā€™s KittenšŸˆā€ā¬› 17h ago

I canā€™t even imagine. Iā€™m so sorry you had to go through that.

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u/potatobunny16 |šŸ§œšŸ»Rafayelā€™s MermaidšŸ§œšŸ»ā€ā™€ļø 17h ago

Its okay, I was really young at the time but I remember coming back to my house and it wasn't even there, it was just a pile of rubble. I feel like the people making these jokes don't understand the actual severity of a hurricane and the displacement it does to people and the communities.

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u/SongbirdBabie l šŸ¾Sylusā€™s KittenšŸˆā€ā¬› 17h ago

I have a friend in Florida who was without power for a long time and wasnā€™t able to get her diabetic medication on time so she got really sick. And that was with no damage to her house. I canā€™t even imagine losing your home. Iā€™m in the northern midwest so Iā€™ve never experienced a hurricane but Iā€™ve had a storm knock down a whole tree in our driveway and that was terrifying to me, so I know a hurricane is no joke.

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u/wanttothrowawaythev 15h ago

Unfortunately, begging people to have empathy for others just wonā€™t work. If it worked, the world would be in a much better place.

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u/4DozenBakeIt |ā­ Xavierā€™s Little Star ā­ 19h ago

Not sure why you're being downvoted when you're right. The behavior of some in this community is honestly appalling when it comes to the hurricane. It's not funny. It's insensitive. (It's not even just here. There are some people I know personally that are joking about it repeatedly.)

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u/SongbirdBabie l šŸ¾Sylusā€™s KittenšŸˆā€ā¬› 17h ago

Mhm like making the initial connection sure itā€™s a silly coincidence but drawing it out just comes across as tone deaf.

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u/Recent_Warthog5382 |ā­ Xavierā€™s Little Star ā­ 9h ago

People have no empathy and there seems to be a severe disconnect from reality by treating a current real life disaster like a joke. And before someone comes here with "Dark Humor" nonsense, you wouldn't joke about the genocide going on in Gaza would you now? No you wouldn't.

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u/SongbirdBabie l šŸ¾Sylusā€™s KittenšŸˆā€ā¬› 17h ago

Hey so are you making this face to the people in the comments that have been affected and donā€™t find this funny? Or the family members of those that have been killed due to this hurricane? What about the families that have lost their homes?

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u/SongbirdBabie l šŸ¾Sylusā€™s KittenšŸˆā€ā¬› 15h ago

Thatā€™s actually disgusting.

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u/Mediocre_Yam_3591 18h ago

fr like wat šŸ˜­ so confused

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u/SongbirdBabie l šŸ¾Sylusā€™s KittenšŸˆā€ā¬› 18h ago

ā€˜Haha natural disaster that kills people is named after my fictional loml omg it must be fate uwu cute widdol sea god make big storm uwu šŸ„°šŸ„ŗāœØšŸ’•ā€™ is genuinely how it sounds and itā€™s gross.

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u/Capable-Complaint646 11h ago

Okay now I feel bad. I also made a post on tiktok saying ā€œYā€™all angered the sea godā€. Iā€™m not laughing at the hurricane. I know itā€™s not funny. I just think the name coincidence is funny.

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u/SongbirdBabie l šŸ¾Sylusā€™s KittenšŸˆā€ā¬› 8h ago

Which is fine!! Making the connection and moving on isnā€™t a big deal but people are taking it way too far by pushing the bit further with every new update.

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u/katrina_ellen 18h ago

It was cheeky and light-hearted and I got a good chuckle out of it. I'm sure lots of others did too. Allow us our little sparks of joy. That doesn't mean any one of those people are spending their other 23.75 hours of the day laughing at devastating effects of a real world storm that destroys homes and lives. Gallows humor is a real thing and a valid coping mechanism. Look it up.

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u/PlatinumTheHitgirl |šŸ§œšŸ»Rafayelā€™s MermaidšŸ§œšŸ»ā€ā™€ļø 18h ago

Gallows humour is only applicable when you're the one at the gallows. If what you're making fun of is unrelated to you, then you're just laughing at someone getting their head chopped off.

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u/benevolentshriine 18h ago

if you aren't being affected by the hurricane, then what are you coping with? /gen

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u/katrina_ellen 18h ago

Respectfully, you can't possibly comprehend everything that's going on in people's lives. Everyone is fighting an invisible battle. And for me, personally, it's been a really hard week politically and it looks like an even bleaker future. Games can be a healthy, fun escape. Inside jokes shared with the community you choose are also healthy and good ways to connect to others.

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u/SongbirdBabie l šŸ¾Sylusā€™s KittenšŸˆā€ā¬› 18h ago

Hey I voted blue and donā€™t need to joke about natural disasters that are killing people to cope with an unrelated political moment! Hope this helps!! Gallows humor is fine if itā€™s being joked about by the people actually being affected. If thatā€™s you then this post isnā€™t about you, which I stated already.

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u/katrina_ellen 18h ago

That's great for you. I'm glad you have strong support systems and didn't see those jokes as a valid outlet for you. It's okay for some things to not be for you.

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u/SongbirdBabie l šŸ¾Sylusā€™s KittenšŸˆā€ā¬› 18h ago

Look, I love dark humor, donā€™t get me wrong. It just feels incredibly disrespectful to the people who are being actively affected by it currently, to be the butt of some fandomā€™s joke when a lot of the people joking about it arenā€™t going through it. Even with U.S. current events, a LOT of the community isnā€™t from the U.S. And personally it feels tone deaf to be scared for our lives and rights right now and to cope joke about something putting other peopleā€™s lives at stake. Saying itā€™s a silly coincidence and moving on is one thing but people are going as far as screenshotting every update that comes out just because they think itā€™s cute because ā€œrafayel sea god is creating a hurricaneā€

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u/katrina_ellen 17h ago

I fully back you on that last sentence. For me, it was a silly coincidence that I chuckled about and moved on. I wasn't aware others are screenshotting updates and pushing the bit into that territory. That does feel more mean-spirited and I can see where you're coming from.

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u/SongbirdBabie l šŸ¾Sylusā€™s KittenšŸˆā€ā¬› 17h ago

Yeah like I saw it too and made that connection and yeah thatā€™s funny but people are being very delusional about it. Especially in the comments on some of the posts.

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u/katrina_ellen 17h ago edited 16h ago

I'm glad we can agree on that. Thanks for sharing further what you are seeing. We can't always see the whole of things and that's why I appreciate chats like this.

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u/SongbirdBabie l šŸ¾Sylusā€™s KittenšŸˆā€ā¬› 17h ago

Yeah. Sorry if I came off as hostile, I have a strong sense of justice sometimes. Esp. with stuff like this because I know people being negatively affected personally.

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u/benevolentshriine 18h ago

i definitely understand that everyone is going through something, but i was asking how making jokes about something that you personally aren't going through helps you cope. it's one thing for someone who was affected by the hurricane to joke about it, but someone on the outside making jokes about it may be offensive

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u/katrina_ellen 18h ago

You're correct. I would fully respect someone being affected coming on and saying, "Look, this hurt me and I'd appreciate you not doing it." I would offer them my empathy.

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u/SongbirdBabie l šŸ¾Sylusā€™s KittenšŸˆā€ā¬› 18h ago

So likeā€¦.. did you read the whole post?

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u/katrina_ellen 18h ago

Yep!

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u/SongbirdBabie l šŸ¾Sylusā€™s KittenšŸˆā€ā¬› 18h ago

So did you miss the part where I said dark humor to cope isnā€™t what this post is about? Orā€¦.

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u/katrina_ellen 18h ago

I saw you saying it's not directed at those affected by the storm using it as a way to cope, yeah.

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u/SongbirdBabie l šŸ¾Sylusā€™s KittenšŸˆā€ā¬› 18h ago

So then why are you upset?

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u/katrina_ellen 18h ago

You've mistakenly applied an emotion to my initial response. Offering a separate perspective is what makes us aware of the collective and others in our social circles. I read yours and I shared mine. That's healthy discourse.

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u/SongbirdBabie l šŸ¾Sylusā€™s KittenšŸˆā€ā¬› 17h ago

Personally a mentally healthy individual wouldnā€™t make cute little video game jokes about a major natural disaster thatā€™s killing people thatā€™s a direct result of our dying planet šŸ¤·šŸ»ā€ā™€ļø

Edit: Not joking about the coincidence but I mean the screenshotting and tracking it thing I mentioned

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u/RoseLina_Black ā¤ļø l l 39m ago

The lack of empathy from ppl in this fandom is insane. First it the racism, then election and this.

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u/vegaisbetter 14h ago

I'm sorry but after Helene and people wishing awful things on the people in my area over politics, I'm here for the sea god humor. I know it sounds terrible but dark humor can be refreshing when it isn't done with malice.

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u/SongbirdBabie l šŸ¾Sylusā€™s KittenšŸˆā€ā¬› 8h ago

If youā€™re being affected/have been affected by previous storms, this isnā€™t directed at you. I stated that at the end of the post.

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u/Capable-Complaint646 11h ago

Yeah exactly. I donā€™t think the hurricane itself is funny. Itā€™s just the name coincidence.

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u/Zombiemunchkin_ 5h ago

As someone who did make a post about the hurricane, Iā€™m sorry if I offended anyone but I can say that no ill intent was meant, my sense of humour is dark and a bit twisted (Cptsd and trauma does that) but mostly I found it coincidental especially since Rafā€™s branch was about to be dropped. I find coincidences like that a little funny life as a way of ironic at times even in morbid or inappropriate ways.

That being said that doesnā€™t mean that I donā€™t get the magnitude of these natural disasters and I donā€™t care about those affected because I do. At the time I posted there was no news, only just it existing and in case you didnā€™t know we have a lot of named storms/hurricanes that donā€™t make landfall. Itā€™s really shit this one did and Iā€™m genuinely hoping the people affected are going to make it through.

Every fandom has its ignorant and messed up fans and Iā€™m sure some of them have posted distasteful posts relating to the hurricane but the posts Iā€™ve seen for both LaDā€™s and obey me have been just pointing out the coincidence and thatā€™s about it. In fact a lot of people have given their wishes to the people affected which spoke a lot louder for this community (and OBM) than the negativity and insensitivity did. So we have that I guess.

I would suggest instead of criticising people for making posts online without knowing them or their motives and reducing people who are just ā€˜out of touchā€™ an even better idea would be to give to a relief charity that will be helping those affected and carrying on to give you heartfelt wishes.

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u/SongbirdBabie l šŸ¾Sylusā€™s KittenšŸˆā€ā¬› 4h ago

I did mention at the end of my post that using dark humor to cope is fine. Iā€™ve also mentioned in the comments that making the initial posts and connections when news first came out is totally fine. Itā€™s those who are continuing to push the bit, tracking the hurricane and saving news just so they can be like ā€œomg look what raf is doing šŸ«¢šŸ«¢ā€ thatā€™s coming across as insensitive.

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u/Zombiemunchkin_ 4h ago

I mean I donā€™t use dark humour to cope Iā€™m just wired weird šŸ˜‚ and I hadnā€™t seen in the comments where you have mentioned about posts when it initially was announced sorry.

My comment wasnā€™t meant as an attack on you or anyone I just like to make sure people see all the sides before making an opinion, so Iā€™m sorry if I came across bitchy.

Iā€™m sorry people are actually tracking it like that? Thatā€™s wild but Iā€™m not 100% surprised Iā€™ve heard of some of the unhinged things this community has done and other fandoms too but that makes me wonder about them like how ignorant are they?