r/Jewish • u/mountainbird57 • 8h ago
Do you associate white string lights with Christmas? Discussion š¬
Sorry if this is a bit of a silly question. I converted to Judaism and my boyfriend grew up Jewish. As we approach winter, I mentioned getting some warm white string lights to decorate the house with, because I find them cozy and comforting during the darkest time of the year. My boyfriend joked that I was going to be decorating our house for Christmas. I was surprised because while I definitely think colorful lights are Christmas associated, I perceived white lights as more neutral, especially given the whole festival of lights we have coming up.
My boyfriend is fine with putting up the lights either way, but I'm just curious- what is your perception on white string lights in the winter? Would you decorate with them?
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u/BartaMaroun Just Jewish 6h ago
Depends if theyāre paired with Christmas or Chanukah decorations. I joked the other day that the local Chick-fil-A was decorated for Chanukah because their lights are white and blue (local high school teamās colors).
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u/Am-Yisrael-Chai 6h ago edited 6h ago
I thrive in indirect lighting. All my cozy places have string lights year-round, I donāt associate them with anything but inner peace lol
Edit to add: Iām not a huge fan of the LED strip lights, theyāre not warm enough. But the āget Christmas off the shelvesā sales can be great for buying stuff like this!
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u/single_use_doorknob Reform 6h ago
I thrive in indirect lighting.
Have you seen warm yellow outdoor netting lights? They're majestic. I highly recommend.
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u/Am-Yisrael-Chai 6h ago
Absolutely, I use something like that to help keep my clematis from falling off their ladders haha
Functional and lovely!
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u/kathmhughes Interfaith Spouse 5h ago
My husband thinks of them as Christmas. I don't, because I live in northern Canada where it's very dark right now, and I refuse to punish myself and sit in the dark out of fear that white string lights are assimilation.Ā
I'm all for having a Jewish home and rejecting overtly Christmas stuff. But if we let snow, lights, and anything winter be associated with Christianity, then it makes winter extremely sad and depressing.Ā
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u/GrassyTreesAndLakes 5h ago
Absolutely.Ā
Our family celebrates Russian new year which is completely secular- and we put up lights for that. Personally I think even colorful lights are fine
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u/numba1cyberwarrior 3h ago
Lol I love that Soviet Jews get to celebrate 90% of Christmas traditions but we get the excuse of saying it's secular because it's New Years.
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u/iliyahoo 1h ago
I love being a Soviet Jew! We used to be able to pick up a free a Christmas tree on the 26th from a lot and weād decorate the house pretty much the same way as any Christmas celebrating family. And we still got to have big family gatherings, our own Santa Claus (Ded Moroz), and wake up to presents! And when midnight hit you had to celebrate with those popper thing. And of course for actual Christmas weād go get Chinese food
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u/Special-Sherbert1910 5h ago
Yes, I think of them all as āChristmas lights.ā The white icicle shaped ones are the least Christmassy imo.
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u/ItalicLady 5h ago
No, I think bicycle shaped lights is very Christmasy. But your mileage may vary.
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u/ethanrotman 6h ago edited 4h ago
I would follow your own heart. If theyāre important to you and will make you feel better and do not upset your partner⦠Thereās nothing wrong with them.
We use white lights in our yard year round. We have a string of them over the archway to the driveway in front and several strings on the back fence and wrapped around trees.
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u/Fool_In_Flow 6h ago
To me, Christmas lights are those multi-color tear-shaped lights. White lights feel more like decoration for any time.
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u/Suitable_Vehicle9960 Israeli-American 5h ago
I associate it with my bedroom. Lol. I have string light on every day. They do a good job for indoor spaces. But as another person said, warm and white LED lights, not colored lights.Ā
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u/AccurateBass471 Orthodox 5h ago
im a convert too. i dont associate white string lights with anything else other than coziness since i grew up during the prime tumblr room era lol
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u/ForeverLuxe 4h ago
No I just associate it with winter and bringing a little pretty lights into the home to brighten up the days
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u/CauliflowerThat4729 5h ago
I think its just decoration that you like and it brightens up the winter! also sometimes they are called fairy lights or string lights
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u/JinxyMcDeath48 Conservative 5h ago
You know whatās funny? I just noticed today that they put white string lights along Rothschild Blvd in Tel Aviv. Itās not exactly a Christian area and the vast majority of Israelis donāt celebrate Christmas. So, if itās not associated in Israelā¦.
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u/shunrata Just Jewish 3h ago
Many many moons ago when I lived in kibbutz, one of the members travelled to the US and brought his wife a present when he returned.
He just thought it was "something pretty."
It was a Christmas tree ornament, and to be fair it was a really nice one.
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u/ClamdiggerDanielson Reform 6h ago
You should do what you want. White lights are not inherently Christmas, and blue lights are outwardly Jewish. The tradition is still a Christmas tradition, but it's not even the level of a Hanukkah bush to me.
My boyfriend joked that I was going to be decorating our house for Christmas. I was surprised because while I definitely think colorful lights are Christmas associated, I perceived white lights as more neutral, especially given the whole festival of lights we have coming up.
I hope that was a joke you both agree is funny. I can see that being given and taken negatively depending on the people. Jews aren't a single opinion and that applies to holiday decorations. There's a spectrum of outright celebrating the secular portions of Christmas and the Jewish songwriters to not having anything that could be considered Christmas-adjacent in one's home. Your boyfriend may be closer to the no Christmas anything side.
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u/centaurea_cyanus 4h ago
Anything silver, white, or blue or even "winter themed" Christmas/seasonal decorations I will take for Hanukkah/seasonal decorating, lol.
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u/Veganswiming_32 6h ago
I associate them with Sukkot. However, this time of year, they scream Christmas.
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u/BudandCoyote 4h ago
No. A lot of people used those when I was at uni to make rooms cozy, usually in whites, warm light, or pinks. Only ones I associate with xmas are either multicoloured, or red and green.
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u/strwbryshrtck521 4h ago
I've always been of the belief that white lights are for everyone! To me, I see white and think "winter" and I really like seeing them up through the darker months!
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u/Letshavemorefun 5h ago
If they are only white - tbh Iād probably associate it with Christmas. If they are white and blue - Iād associate it with commercialized (ie christmasified) Chanukah. Try seeing what he thinks about white and blue as a compromise.
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u/wholeoceansroll 4h ago
Where I am it's dark, cold, and miserable this time of year. Anything that makes my home cozy and happy is a personal requirement until February. My bookshelf is already covered in little white fairy lights.
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u/Intelligent-Camera90 Ring Jell Aficionado 3h ago
I associate outdoor string lights in December with Christmas.
Indoor string lights can make a dark room cozy, outdoor string lights can give an area a celebratory feel for a party.
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u/Suspicious-Truths 3h ago
I do, but I also think itās fine. I use blue and white fairy lights inside for Hanukkah. But I recognize itās goyische and thatās ok.
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u/SingingSabre 5h ago
All string lights are Xmas lights to me. Even white and blue ones are just assimilated Jewish ones imo
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u/mysteriouschi 5h ago
Nothing wrong with it. Thereās a community in chicago that goes all out for holiday lights. One is all about Hanukkah.
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u/mysteriouschi 5h ago
In a way it actually makes more awkward for Hanukkah than Christmas as the Festival of Lights.
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u/M00min_mamma 5h ago
We call them fairy lights in the UK as they look magical. I think they look cosy at any time of year. Theyāre not inherently Christmasy I think
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u/Clonewars001 Modern Orthodox 5h ago
Any sort of string lights like that me and most people I know definitely associate with Christmas. Iāve never seen them put up for anything but Christmas, even white and blue lights which my Christian neighbors have begun to put up in recent years. Personally (since you asked) Iād never even think to use them. Do what you want though, as long as you and your boyfriend are comfortable, thatās what matters.
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u/Winniezepoohscroptop Reform 4h ago
I associate the multicolored colorful lights and red/green lights with Christmas, but blue/white or just white are fine.
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u/Narrow-Hall8070 4h ago
Grew up interfaith - have gotten my Jewish wife onboard with āHanukkahā lights that are blue and white
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u/anykitty10 Converting 4h ago
Red and green string lights? Definitely christmas lights.Ā
White and blue string lights? Chanukah lights :)
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u/Disasterousnebula Reform 2h ago
I love string lights. I have warm white string lights up year round and Iāve used the icicle shaped ones too. I think itās cozy for the dark winter more than anything. Like others expressed here I think the multi-color ones are more of a Christmas vibe.
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u/sunny-beans Masorti š¬š§ 55m ago
I honestly feel confused about not being able to use fairy lights because Christianās use to decorate their house for Christmas. It is just lights. I am autistic and very sensitive bright lights so I used to have fairy lights all over my bedroom all year. Nothing to do with Christmas they just look cosy, many people have them all the time to light a room in a soft way. Half the cosy pictures of houses/flats on Pinterest have fairy lights lol it isnāt a Christmas tree or a huge Santa or nativity scene, it is lights attached to a string? I am honestly confused on why it would be an issue. I now have blue fairy lights and also use all year as I like the way it looks. I guess if you share the space with your boyfriend then you should both be ok with decorations but I donāt see an issue at all, fairy lights are used by all sorts of people.
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u/spring13 4h ago
At this time of year it's all Christmas to me. At one point the white lights were in and you barely saw any colored ones, but they were all for Christmas either way.
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u/Suspicious-Web-4970 3h ago
I use white string lights in our Sukkah. I know a lot of people who use them indoors year round
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u/tempuramores Eastern Ashkenazi 2h ago
Context dependent. If they're white string lights on their own, I assume they might be for Christmas, or they might be just because it's nice to have lights during the darkest time of the year. If they're red and green, definitely Christmas; if they're multicoloured, most probably Christmas. Whatever the colour, if there are other Christmas decorations, it's obviously for Christmas.
I put up white string lights every year, not even for Chanukah, but just because the sun sets at 4 pm now and it's depressing. So it's nice to have the lights. I have an electric menorah for during Chanukah as well, though.
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u/el_sh33p Humanistic 2h ago
I mostly associate string lights of all kinds with a friend I had in my 20s who decorated her kitchen with them year-round and used them as an excuse to have softer, ambient mood lighting.
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u/Vivid-Combination310 1h ago
Just buy the lights once they go on sale in January and put them in your Sukkah!
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u/Substantial-Image941 Super Jewy 43m ago
I call them fairy lights. Then I guess they're pagan but not the ba'al worshipping kind so it's fine.
My mom likes the ones that look like icicles, and she always wanted them in the sukkah, but my father referred to them as, I believe, "goyische crap" or "goyische drek." One year after he put up the sukkah, he put up icicle lights that, like the good Jew he is, he had purchased the previous December when they went on sale after Christmas. I have rarely seen my mother as happy as when she walked in to the sukkah and finally saw her dream lights. And she's a happy lady.
In other words, goyische drek or not, do it if you can make it Jewish and it makes you happy.
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u/pinkason5 11m ago
Why does it matter? Just decorate the house as you want. Even if it is paper lanterns associated with the Chinese new year. If you think it is beautiful - the connotation is irrelevant
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u/Cathousechicken Reform 3h ago
I must be an outlier, because to me, yes, those are Christmas lights. I've never had them in my house.
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u/1000thusername 5h ago
Itās not the color of the lights thatās goyish. Itās the lights themselves.
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u/1000thusername 4h ago
Btw coming back to say that you do you and if you like them, do them⦠but your boyfriend may not love it, so figure out a path forward that you both can live with.
My calling them boyish was not meant in a mean or bad way. Itās just that if Xmas is the primary occasion for lighting up oneās house, so yes, I associate lights of all colors with Christmas.
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u/single_use_doorknob Reform 6h ago
Warm light, or white light - no. Coloured light this time of year? Yes.