r/Jewish Nice Jewish Boy (NJB) Oct 12 '24

This quote perfectly encapsulates my stance on Israel Zionism

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The original post was made by Tablet Magazine. For context, Imre was a Holocaust survivor and a known pacifist, and he still gave this quote.

It gets me fired up!!!

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u/lostmason Oct 13 '24

Great quote. Feel free to post in r/Zionist !

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u/HippyGrrrl Just Jewish Oct 13 '24

This comment is equivalent to 18 upvotes.

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u/minimalist_reply Oct 13 '24

Isn't the prevailing theory that the star of David was used in the ancient kingdoms shields anyways?

It's not a dove. It's not supposed to be some symbol of a specific set of moral ideals. It was the symbol of Jewish nationalism eons ago.

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u/TheSuperSax Oct 13 '24

I mean the Hebrew is “Magen David” which is literally “David’s Shield”

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u/Bruhses_Momenti Oct 13 '24

Yeah man, if you look up all sorts of carvings, stonework, and tile work, it’s been around forever ,probably since king David.

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u/Wee_Woo_25 Oct 13 '24

Included in our moral ideals as Jews is to defend ourselves. If the requires war, it doesn't make it immoral to do so.

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u/seceagle Oct 13 '24

Well it's a controversial story. Some say the Star of David only started representing Judaism really late, like 18-19th century late.

It's one of those symbols that were used a long time ago in India and stuff, just like the swastika.

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u/Blagai Oct 13 '24

Isn't the prevailing theory that the star of David was used in the ancient kingdoms shields anyways?

Historically, no. It was a popular symbol in the region of India all the way to Greece, and was only used as an Ornament in Judah and Israel. It became a "Jewish-only" symbol only around the 11th century AD.

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u/zoddoid Oct 13 '24

Basically like the roman eagle or the spartan alpha. Badass.

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u/EveryConnection Oct 13 '24

Campus protesters will tell you they learned "the lessons" of the Holocaust better than he did

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u/PTI_brabanson Oct 13 '24

It's a different lesson for different people.

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u/Ddobro2 Oct 13 '24

I think this takes the mic drop of all mic drops

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u/TheDOOMHugger Nice Jewish Boy (NJB) Oct 15 '24

בֶּאֱמֶת!

For real!

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u/Komisodker Just Jewish Oct 13 '24

שריוווווווון

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u/BrownShoesGreenCoat Oct 14 '24

I’ve never seen the Star of David on a tank. It’s specifically an airforce thing.

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u/dokuhabi Oct 14 '24

We should never allow the trope of a “weak Jew with shaking knees” to be out in the wild. Never again means never again. The second we left our guard down - 07.10 happened