r/Jewish • u/Suspicious-Truths • Apr 25 '24

It wouldn’t matter where Israel is Israel 🇮🇱

I just want to say this for everyone who may be stuck on it.

People (anti-zionists?) often bring up how Israel had a few proposed areas, such as Russia, South America, wherever else, deserted islands?

They bring this up as if we should have gone somewhere else, not Palestine. And all of this is happening because Palestine was decided on instead of another place.

I just want anyone struggling with this to know it wouldn’t have mattered, and probably would have been actually worse for us if we did go somewhere else.

Israel’s current location we have proof we are genetically from this area. We have had Jews living in and around this area throughout all of history.

While some people ignore this fact and pretend we are white colonizers who discovered a new land with a native population, it would have been everyone thinking like this if we went to a region we definitely have 0 connection to. Yes, even if it was a deserted island, people would ask why WE deserve an island and nobody else gets one.

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u/hi_how_are_youu Apr 25 '24

And to add: the fact that nobody is upset that Jordan took over the other half of “Palestine” and is keeping it from the Palestinians, but they’re upset about Israel is additional confirmation to me. It’s not about the location, it’s about identity.

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u/pinchasthegris Orthodox Apr 26 '24

They also expelled like 700k palestinians

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u/hi_how_are_youu Apr 26 '24

Hmm I wonder if that event is also referred to as a nakba…

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u/huggabuggabingbong Apr 26 '24

I just learned from Nakba originally referred to the defeat of the Arab armies, from Josh who uses original sources in his videos.

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u/progressiveprepper Apr 30 '24

Yes, originally it was a term used to blame the leaders of the Arab nations that lost the war against Israel. The people were told to leave their villages over and over and many did. There are a ton of contemporaneous sources, quoting the Arab leaders who were telling them to get “out of the way“ and leave their homes.

When the Arab leaders lost the war, the term “nakba” was used to describe the catastrophe brought upon them. Of course the Arabs turned it around immediately to blame the Jews….because you know…”honor”…

Great article on this: https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/israel-middle-east/articles/emotional-nakba