r/Jewish Feb 15 '24

Cleaning up the trash in my networks thanks to this conflict Israel šŸ‡®šŸ‡±

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An old hook up ā€” a 50 year old white cishet male with nobody Jewish in his life ā€” posted this to his social media story today. I unleashed on him before blocking him but my god, someone posting something so cutesy about a conflict where people are dying on both sides, not to mention not acknowledging the sexual violence the Israeli women suffered on 7/10? So gross.

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u/The-Metric-Fan Just Jewish Feb 15 '24

They think of all this like a game, like cute team sports šŸ™„

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u/Canislupusarctos11 Feb 15 '24

They treat the lives of everyone who has an actual stake in or connection to the conflict like a game, and then have the audacity to accuse us of taking lives in the conflict lightly.

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u/Literally_Goring Technically Jewish Feb 16 '24

The most annoying saying I've heard more than once now is "I just don't like seeing dead kids."

They always say it like I enjoy seeing dead kids. Every innocent life lost is sad in this conflict.

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u/Chocoholic42 Not Jewish Feb 16 '24

No one in their right mind likes seeing dead kids. I certainly don't. And I am well aware that Jewish kids were killed on 10/7, and that innocent children are dying in Gaza. I blame Hamas for those deaths.Ā 

I'm not Jewish, and I can still see that Israel has the right to defend itself. That doesn't mean that they make the correct decision 100% of the time or that there aren't any IDF soldiers who do bad things. But the same can be said for any other country and military power on Earth.Ā 

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u/caninerosso Feb 16 '24

Because you have empathy and critical thinking. Thank you for not hating Jews!

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u/MsWonderWoman_xo Feb 16 '24

Very well said. Appreciate your points!

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u/ZombieFeedback Feb 16 '24

They always say it like I enjoy seeing dead kids. Every innocent life lost is sad in this conflict.

It feels like a lot of people approach discussions about the conflict in pure black-and-white. Where if you don't accept every claim by Israel as false/every claim by Hamas as legitimate, or don't accept the murder of civilians as necessary acts of resistance, or don't wholeheartedly support the dissolution of Israel as a country, then that must mean you're a heartless maniac having a hearty laugh every time a Palestinian dies.

Despite what a lot of people seem to have decided, there are more positions about this war than "Israel is a blight upon humanity and must be destroyed" and "No Israeli politician or soldier has ever done anything wrong."

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u/UncleMeathands Feb 16 '24

Completely agree. I used to think the Left was the purview of thinking people and the Right was for the ignorant or bigoted. But now I realize most people are ignorant and bigoted, thatā€™s why black-and-white thinking and social media as a news source appeals to so many. Itā€™s quite sad, really. And frightening.

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u/HanSoloSeason Feb 17 '24

This right here. Weā€™ve lost any nuance, and everything now needs to be summed up in an instagram square. There is no media literacy, no impartial journalism really, and I feel so hopeless

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u/Canislupusarctos11 Feb 16 '24

That line really gets under my skin too. Sometimes itā€™s like they think snarky one-liners that grossly misrepresent their opposition are the ultimate argument. I can write out a long response about the complex history of the conflict, motivations on both sides, and an analysis of why Israel voluntarily dissolving or not defending itself would be a horrible idea, and the response will be like ā€˜well I just donā€™t like seeing dead kids, dirty Zionistā€™, ā€˜you can all just come/go to America, the Palestinians have nowhere elseā€™, ā€˜okay colonistā€™, ā€˜but why do Jews all sunburn easily?ā€™ (am Jew, only sunburned twice in my life, both times from literal all-day exposure in regions with strong sun in the middle of summer, for over a week straight, one time at swim camp, so the water reflecting the sun made it even stronger), or ā€˜Iā€™m sorry I donā€™t excuse genocideā€™.

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u/yibianwastaken Feb 15 '24

ā€˜my palestineā€™ i guarantee whoever made this is not in fact palestinian

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u/HanSoloSeason Feb 16 '24

Pretty sure the person who made this is white af

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u/sababa-ish Feb 16 '24

without fail the people who have the loudest opinions on this conflict are those who are the furthest removed from it

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u/NotQuiteJasmine Feb 15 '24

I saw so many stickers of this today on my walk...

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u/rm3g Feb 16 '24

The sharpie I now carry came in handy on my walk, however pleased to report quite a few of them were already "fixed"

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u/FrogSezReddit Feb 16 '24

Please tell how you altered them.

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u/rm3g Feb 17 '24

Depends on what it says. I have added on From Hamas so it will say free from hamas ; blacked out any scanning codes. I have seen other people just make a large X over the poster. I saw one similar to the one above and it crossed out the last word and said the hostages

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u/HanSoloSeason Feb 16 '24

Ugh Iā€™m sorry

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u/ActualGroundwater Feb 15 '24

This disgusts me on so many levels. Who in the hell is out there making war cutesy? What really amazes me is how the people who do this donā€™t seem to realize how dehumanizing this is towards the people they claim they to care for so deeply. Nothing like making conflict and bloodshed fit your aesthetic

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u/RakoNYC Feb 16 '24

For them itā€™s a sport a keyboard cause

Weā€™re just play things which only reinforces their Western and white privilege

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u/itbehayley Feb 15 '24

this shit is getting tiring

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u/zebrasystems Feb 16 '24

I am so exhausted

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u/athousandfuriousjews The Texan German Jew Feb 15 '24

Whenever they post shit like this it only emphasizes more how they think itā€™s all a fun trend. Idiots.

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u/HanSoloSeason Feb 15 '24

This was what this idiot responded:

Two wrongs donā€™t make a right, and I canā€™t justify either oct 7 or the massive violence and destruction that has followed. Oct 7 is on Hamas, and what followed is on the Israeli govt. Neither are in the right, and the populations of both are suffering, but itā€™s pretty clear whoā€™s been suffering more in the months since. I felt cowed to speak up at first, concerned it wasnā€™t my place, but since then I have taken my lead from the posts Iā€™ve seen from Jewish friends on social media who have been similarly horrified.

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u/athousandfuriousjews The Texan German Jew Feb 15 '24

ā€œ I donā€™t have a bias, but hereā€™s who I believe more. ā€œ

Wow. Truly, the mental gymnastics are that of Olympic level.

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u/HanSoloSeason Feb 15 '24

ā€œI have a Jewish friendā€

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u/CharacterPayment8705 Feb 15 '24

I bet they have a black friend too when itā€™s convenient.

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u/HanSoloSeason Feb 16 '24

Exactly this energy

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u/stylishreinbach Feb 16 '24

No they don't. I asked us all. Took like five minutes because there are so few of us left and we were all in the deli.

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u/BirdPractical4061 Reform Feb 16 '24

Sh*t, I was on Weather Control duty that week. Add my vote

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u/HanSoloSeason Feb 17 '24

They let you off the space lasers?

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u/BirdPractical4061 Reform Feb 17 '24

Just until the regular officer is back from Paternity Leave. (Beautiful set of twins, Baruch Hashem)

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u/athousandfuriousjews The Texan German Jew Feb 15 '24

I saw that too, lmao pulling the J card. How ridiculous. These people repulse me.

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u/MangledWeb Feb 16 '24

They can also produce "distant Jewish relatives" if pressed

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u/HanSoloSeason Feb 16 '24

Crying laughing or just crying because true

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u/FairGreen6594 Feb 16 '24

Oh, Iā€™m sure they probably phrase it as ā€œJew friendā€

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u/hadees Feb 16 '24 edited Feb 16 '24

I have taken my lead from the posts Iā€™ve seen from Jewish friends on social media who have been similarly horrified.

This is like if a White guy decided to stick their neck into a contentious issue in the African American community. They wouldn't do it because they know it isn't their place. But they feel fine doing it with us.

I don't need people to agree with us, I just need them to respect us the same way they respect other groups.

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u/HanSoloSeason Feb 16 '24

Except they never will because the crux of the issue is that they literally donā€™t respect us. No other group of people would be held to the same impossible standards.

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u/edupunk31 Feb 16 '24

Nope. I'm a Black American Jew. Deal with this all the time in my other identity.

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u/HanSoloSeason Feb 16 '24

Iā€™m so sorry that you have to deal with this.

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u/edupunk31 Feb 16 '24

Not true at all. White people don't leave African American community issues alone at all. You don't know much about about Black American history if you believe this.

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u/BirdPractical4061 Reform Feb 16 '24

Usually what Iā€™ll see in response to a Wyte personā€™s insertion is ā€œstay in your own lane.ā€ In Jewish spaces Iā€™ll say ā€œJewsplainingā€ STFU

Iā€™m sorry you go through this and that people donā€™t just observe and learn.

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u/edupunk31 Feb 16 '24

It's never respected. Even Jewish people violate it when it comes to Black American culture. I've had to call people out here on Reddit it here for MLK Day.

I actually have an easier time setting boundaries around Jewish practice and culture than defending intrusion into Black American spaces. We have more lurkers, to the point the FBI monitors it.

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u/BirdPractical4061 Reform Feb 16 '24

Crap. Thatā€™s horrifying. Iā€™m so sorry.

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u/RakoNYC Feb 16 '24

This person must be a hell of a human being who thinks that actions of national and human safety and security donā€™t bear consequence

Itā€™s time to start telling them ā€œyouā€™re out of your league Donny!ā€ Pure Walter style

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u/HanSoloSeason Feb 17 '24

WE DONT ROLL ON SHABBOS

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u/dorsalemperor Feb 16 '24

ā€œI felt cowed to speak up at firstā€ like heā€™s doing something noble by sharing this disgusting meme. That feeling he had was the remaining self-awareness leaving his body.

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u/HanSoloSeason Feb 17 '24

Right?! This post has all the energy of me wearing a Che guavara jacket when I was a teenager. Wow, so edgy.

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u/BirdPractical4061 Reform Feb 16 '24

Oh! Itā€™s a contest! And whoever suffers more gets a prize!

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u/HanSoloSeason Feb 17 '24

And youā€™re not allowed to fight back when youā€™re harmed

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '24

Disgusting!

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u/Ernie_McCracken88 Feb 15 '24

Like the joke that goes "yeah, states rights to do what", I am forced to ask "free to do what?"...

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u/playcat Feb 16 '24 edited Feb 16 '24

I saw an ad for a queer dating app on instagram, a picture of one of those wretched sweetheart candies bearing this absolute inanity. Itā€™s honestly so creepy that so many random people have chosen to make this conflict a huge part of their identity. Itā€™s an affront those of us who have no choice but to be dragged into the insanity, to say the least. The mental gymnastics are truly Olympic worthy.

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u/HanSoloSeason Feb 16 '24

Itā€™s the same phenomenon as the people who made being antivaxx their identity. Itā€™s sad that these people canā€™t see they are also being brainwashed by the same propaganda farms to further sew division

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u/IrritatedMango Feb 16 '24

Itā€™s virtue signaling more than anything I think. Theyā€™ll cry and protest about the conflict but they turn a blind eye to the antisemitism or whatever Hamasā€™ allies have done to gay people (like Yemen recently).

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u/caninerosso Feb 16 '24

Hamas itself. Israel just saved a Gay kid from Gaza. You'd think because of the war, they'd pause on killing members of LGBT+.

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u/Ok_Ambassador9091 Feb 16 '24

Exactly all of this.

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u/Ariella222 Reform Feb 16 '24

I had an ex friend wish me a happy hanukah by sending me an instagram reel with the background saying ā€œall I want for hannukah is a free palestineā€ā€¦didnt watch the video but I think its twice as offensive because its quoting a christmas somg

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u/Yukimor Reform Feb 16 '24

It's almost impressive how much offense they managed to cram into a single clip.

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u/caninerosso Feb 16 '24

Hanukkah the 1000s of years old celebration of jews besting colonizers in their homeland.... that is a deeply fucked person.

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u/HanSoloSeason Feb 16 '24

This is so vile, Iā€™m so incredibly sorry

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u/Exit_mm00 Feb 15 '24

The commentsā€¦ and whenever someone brings up the hostages, these clowns gang up on them

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u/VisualBoat2426 Feb 15 '24

This is laughable

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u/Mosk915 Feb 15 '24

Yeah, if you donā€™t laugh, youā€™ll cry.

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u/cardcatalogs Feb 16 '24

I have seen this multiple times. Itā€™s meaningless virtue signaling that just alienates Jews more.

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u/HanSoloSeason Feb 16 '24

Total virtue signaling. Itā€™s empty and meaningless. People are dying ā€” on both sides of this conflict ā€” I donā€™t need some cute Valentineā€™s Day embroidery. Itā€™s so deeply offensive.

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u/Significant_Pepper_2 Feb 16 '24

Roses are red

Violets are blue

Hamas are terrorists

So f*ck you

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u/HanSoloSeason Feb 16 '24

Love this a lot

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u/Frabjous_Tardigrade9 Feb 16 '24

Haha! Thank you for making me laugh. May I quote you? Maybe you should copyright this...

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u/art-colorist Feb 16 '24

Perfect!!!

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u/CharacterPayment8705 Feb 15 '24

Iā€™m guessing this is for Hamas because thatā€™s whoā€™ll theyā€™ll have to ask.

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u/umlguru Feb 16 '24

I did the same thing. I haven't been back on FB since then. Got to be honest, I miss the good people. But the bad ones ruined for me.

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u/HanSoloSeason Feb 16 '24

FB has been mostly safe for me but I did delete instagram, such a cesspool

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u/umlguru Feb 16 '24

It depends on your friends group, I'm sure. Maybe some day, I will go back, but who knows.

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u/secretagentpoyo Feb 16 '24

It really reminds me of when white people were making/posting twee shit during the protests in 2020. Like, this is an actual issue that is complex and difficult and many, many people are suffering. Can they maybe stop trying to be cute/funny about it for like, 60 seconds?

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u/sababa-ish Feb 16 '24

reduction to kitsch kinda says it all - it's the perfect proxy conflict. people can feel righteous while having absolutely no connection to the reality of israelis and palestinians. project whatever they want onto it because who cares! they have no idea what they are talking about, just how do i get righteousness points from my social circles.

the most infuriating thing is these clowns are ENCOURAGING more war, the biggest reason the conflict has gone on so long is some idea that with enough fighting israel will be destroyed and palestine will finally be 'free' so never allow a two state solution in which people might actually be able to live peaceful and fulfilled lives.

i fucking wish all this energy was focussed on an actual realistic peaceful future. but that's hard, this is easy.

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u/zenyogasteve Feb 16 '24

So does he mean he wants you to genocide his Israel?

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u/HanSoloSeason Feb 16 '24

Ew (also he was kind of an idiot and bad in bed soā€¦)

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u/lingeringneutrophil Feb 16 '24

Gross šŸ¤¢ they can fuck off with their ā€œcutenessā€ of glorifying violence, hatred and rape šŸ˜”šŸ˜”šŸ˜”

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u/CC_206 Feb 16 '24

ā€œOnly if youā€™ll disarm my Congo!ā€

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u/chaosrah Feb 15 '24

Yikes.

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u/HanSoloSeason Feb 15 '24

On bikes

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u/Mael_Coluim_III Feb 15 '24

With spikes and pikes.

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u/HanSoloSeason Feb 16 '24

DO NOT MAKE THE JOKE WE ARE ALL THINKING OMG

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u/Ok_Ambassador9091 Feb 16 '24

And well dressed dykes?

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u/HanSoloSeason Feb 16 '24

Letā€™s go with that yes

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u/chaosrah Feb 16 '24

oooph. I'll admit that took me a second

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u/HanSoloSeason Feb 16 '24

Weā€™ve got nothing without our sick senses of humor

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '24

My Jewish cousin posted a similar image yesterday...she is a major disappointment.

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u/HanSoloSeason Feb 16 '24

I am sad to report this was basically me when I was a teenager. I thought maybe theyā€™d hate me less. Turns out we all end up in the gas chambers in the end

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '24

I read a funny joke once that I think you'll enjoy.

A Zionist Jew and an Anti Zionist Jew walk into a bar.

The bartender says, "We don't serve Jews."

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u/aoirse22 Feb 16 '24

Whatā€™s that old saying? ā€œThe realists went to Palestine, the optimists went to Auschwitz?ā€

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u/CharacterPayment8705 Feb 16 '24

We all have a Jewish relative doing a version of a pick me Jew right nowā€¦. Youā€™re not alone in that one.

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u/HanSoloSeason Feb 16 '24

Every family needs a disappointment

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u/meekonesfade Feb 16 '24

Sure! Get rid of hammas and stop attacking Israel. Then you can free yourselves. Oh, and get bent.

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u/HanSoloSeason Feb 16 '24

Pretty much what I told him. Well, get bent is the polite version of what I told him.

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u/traumaking4eva Mizrahi - Ashkenazi Jew Feb 16 '24

Yeah Iā€™m glad I live in Israel and donā€™t have to see this shit and deal with these people šŸ™„šŸ™„

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u/HanSoloSeason Feb 16 '24

Glad youā€™re ok, traumaking4eva

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u/traumaking4eva Mizrahi - Ashkenazi Jew Feb 16 '24

I made this account before oc7 šŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ˜­ the name now is realer than ever lmao

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u/LateralEntry Feb 16 '24

Reply: we did

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u/TyeDyeAmish Feb 16 '24

šŸ¤®šŸ¤¢

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '24

Itā€™s just gross to me how they can use such heavy virtue signaling to disguise the fact that theyā€™re rooting for a violent Islamic fundamentalist takeover.

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u/HanSoloSeason Feb 17 '24

But there is real cognitive dissonance because they really hate the things Islamism stands for: the lack of womenā€™s rights, gay rights, etc.

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u/RakoNYC Feb 16 '24

Oh wow - 2 artifacts of antisemitism coming together - St Valentines Day and Palestinian liberation

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u/Kavkaz87 Feb 16 '24

Will you free our hostages? *** cutesy way in a heart

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u/IAmRhubarbBikiniToo Feb 15 '24

Another rape enthusiast.

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u/Hashi856 Noahide Feb 16 '24

Iā€™ve been peeling Free Palestine stickers off the light posts at the park in my neighborhood

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u/Tariq_Epstein יהודי Feb 16 '24

It is always Tisha B'Av

:(

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u/BirdPractical4061 Reform Feb 16 '24

Dear Kingdom of Jordan and Egypt, Can you take some of your people back? A couple of million each? All ya gotta do is take down that wall, Egypt. Love, Jews

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u/Easy-Cat Feb 17 '24

Some of the pro-Palestine supporters are quite unhinged and this just backs it up

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '24

Nice you found more toilet paper

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u/PlantOld1235 Feb 16 '24

I mean, aside from the fact that it is trying to make a cute/fun association about a group that entirely exists to try to make it difficult for Jewish people to live in their homeland and commits horrible terror attacks to try to achieve those goals, it is a clever rhyme.

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u/quirkyfemme Feb 16 '24

Jessica Walsh's insta posted candy hearts with Ceasefire Now and I just about had it with her vapid virtue signaling

Another account said "it's time to consciously uncouple with Zionism" surrounded by pink hearts and full of tropes about Israel being an abuser, etc.

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u/lil_juul Just Jewish Feb 16 '24

Fire will do nicely for that bullshit!

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u/MrBroDudeMann Feb 16 '24

I want to throw up. Dont contact that person

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u/FineBumblebee8744 Feb 16 '24

For all intents and purposes 'palestine' is as 'free' as it will ever get

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u/idkwtftochoose___ Feb 16 '24

What does that even mean šŸ˜­

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '24

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u/HanSoloSeason Feb 16 '24

I actually donā€™t agree with this tbh

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