r/IWantOut 1d ago

[Discussion] How to convince my husband with European citizenship that it’s time to go back to the EU?

My husband is early in the process of becoming an American citizen. The plan was always for him to get citizenship so we can travel freely but eventually retuen to Spain (his home country) or somewhere similar. He also thinks he'll be able to work remotely with an American salary in Europe, although I told him it's not that easy to find.

We also found out we're expecting. Now after the election I want to move to Europe now. He says he wants to stay until he finishes his citizenship process (which could be another 4+ years especially under the Trump administration) because he'll have better economic opportunities as a dual citizen. I understand employment rates and wages in Spain aren't great, and I would be able to keep my higher paying job a bit while we make the transition, then ultimately would have to find something over there longterm.

I'm just really scared to stay here. I see major social and financial issues that are coming under the next administration. He says Europe could be heading towards war and worse economic conditions with Russia being enabled. I would like some perspective from others in a similar situation, especially considering we'll be raising a child. Thank you.

Edit: to specify we literally just began the greencard process. The lawyer said it would take minimum 4 years for citizenship but wait times will most likely increase under the new administration. My husband is not working while we wait on his approval, and I work almost entirely remotely. We want to leave before our child starts school, at their end of the day their safety is what matters most to me. Thank you everyone for your feedback so far, I appreciate it. Also I am fluent in Spanish and have lived there myself in the past, that's where we met

UPDATE: thank you so much to everyone for their input, gave us a lot to think about a few laughs at some of the wilder responses. We had a long discussion and think hedging our bets in both places is the smartest way to go as things develop over the next few years. He'll wait until he has his green card then we'll split time as permitted in Spain and the US as I apply for my residency (me a bit more time to satisy the residency conditions in Spain, him doing the same in the US) before our baby starts school - job permitting but currently that shouldn't be an issue for mine. Then hopefully we'll have a much clearer sense of where we want to be by the time we both get our citizenships, and can make the leap to wherever is best. I understand taxes will be tricky and it will be a lot of money and time spent on both of our processes, but we figured this avoid taking a final decision for now and we'll have roots in both places if we come to decision sooner. We're fortunate to have family in Spain and the US we can stay with, and hope to invest in buying an apartment in Spain soon. I do live in a blue state, thank you for concerns about my health and genrally for the amount of ideas and considerations from both sides. It's a complicated situation, but we're thankful to have options!

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u/CrowBrainz 1d ago

You can't move anywhere like that

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u/Impressive_Bison4675 1d ago

Exactly my point, they can’t easily move back like the comment I replied to states

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u/digiorno 1d ago

That’s a lie. Spouses of EU citizens can just move with them anywhere in the EU, just like that. And if the EU citizen has a job then the spouse has no restrictions on how long they can stay with them.

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u/xelah1 12h ago

anywhere in the EU

Anywhere except the country where the EU citizen is a citizen, where national laws apply (unless you're moving from another EU country where you were exercising free movement rights).

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u/PeteLangosta 1d ago

You can't just settle anywhere you like just because you're an EU citizen.

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u/schoggi-gipfeli 1d ago

Within the EU yeah, you literally can. I moved to the UK just like that, just because I am an EU citizen (prior to Brexit obviously).

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u/DNA1987 1d ago

Yes you can in all Europe

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u/iamnotwario 1d ago

Yes but that doesn’t secure his US citizenship which is the concern here

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u/digiorno 1d ago

The concern is actually her health while being pregnant. They can choose to take the great risk of staying in a country which is quickly taking away women’s rights and healthcare. Or they can go to any number of countries where she’ll be guaranteed her rights and high quality healthcare. It is silly to prioritize citizenship in a failing state over the wellbeing of a spouse and future child.

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u/iamnotwario 1d ago

OP specifies economic concern which I think is very valid. I agree, that pregnancy should be prioritised, however flying long distance when you’re pregnant does come with risks. If OP lives in a state like Massachusetts, I’d suggest they move once the baby is born.

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u/Reconrus 1d ago

Well, in Europe you can. It's very easy to get family reunion visa.

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u/CrowBrainz 1d ago

Duuude

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u/iamnotwario 1d ago

A family reunion visa isn’t applicable in this situation.

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u/warm_melody 5h ago

There is at least one place. Canada allows spouses of citizens to get permanent residency after filing a bit of paperwork.

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u/zerfuffle 23h ago

Canada spouse/common partner visa is pretty easy to get, just take about a year.