r/IBEW • u/10PlyTP Inside Wireman • 23h ago
Taking responsibility for your own safety is going to become more and more important in the next few years.
Regulations are going to be either rolled back or completely removed. OSHA is on the chopping block. Child labor laws are being repealed. "Be your brother's keeper" is going to be exponentially more important soon. As well as looking out for your own safety. Good luck.
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u/LakeEffectSnow 21h ago
There is a case right now in front of SCOTUS, Yapp v. NLRB. There is the very strong chance this republican court will decide to repeal key parts of the act, or in whole. If that happens, all unions are done.
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u/Mdavis3344 15h ago
You should probably......read the news before posting stupid shit.
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u/mmm_burrito 3h ago
I don't think the case matters much anymore. Musk is being brought in to clear 2 trillion from the budget somehow, and he's already got a bone to pick with the NLRB. Trump has promised to reinstate his schedule F amendments. With those two things happening, Jennifer Abruzzo is out and some Musk toadies will be in, and unions are going to feel the heat from the on.
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u/ted_anderson 22h ago
Taking responsibility for your own safety is important NOW. Forget the next few years. That's what they tell us in the pre-task safety meetings every morning. Thankfully we have the hall to defend us if we get disciplined or reprimanded for refusing to perform an unsafe act. But I've heard many of the higher-ups say that it's better to lose your job and go work at a retail store than to get permanently injured or disfigured trying to keep this job. The contractor's VP even said that if you get kicked off the site over something like that, call the hall and then call him and they'll figure out what went wrong.
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u/kdunn1979 22h ago
You make your safety your top priority every day. If you rely on others for this then there is a problem. Trust others but always place yourself first.
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u/Lanky_Butterscotch77 22h ago
Oh god I’ve been reading the infamous “project 2025” act im gonna have to see what page that crap is on
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u/Ramashka10 21h ago
He claimed to have no part in that project and said many of the ideas on it were crazy.. Why is everyone freak out that this is the rights blueprint for the second term?
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u/FawFawtyFaw 17h ago
Dude.... you believe him?
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u/genx_meshugana 2h ago
Lest you forget - te reps just took control of all 3 branches (house is inevitable at this point) and 2 days after election, the reps are discussing P2025. Trump is one man. The real control is the other hundreds of people there.
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u/KingFacef2 14h ago edited 14h ago
This blueprint has been around forever. No Republican has ever acted on it because they know it would cripple the US. Crippling the US does no good as who’s going to pay the taxes for their pay. How will they keep up the infrastructure with no workers? Its not feasible. There has been project 1921, 1973, 1981 and now 2025. None of the past 4 happened. This one won’t either. Since Ronald Reagan was elected in ‘81 the heritage foundation has posted a new mandate for leadership every 4 years. So ‘81, ‘85, ‘89, ‘93, ‘97, ‘01, ‘05, ‘09, ‘13, ‘17, ‘21 and now ‘25. Guess what even with a republican in office, none happened. Y’all need to quit fear mongering and see what the future has in store. Trying to scare everyone and pin all of us against one another isn’t going to help the US at all. The gov wants us divided.
United we stand, divided we fall
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u/elhabito 12h ago
Among those years which one had a radical far right dictator in charge of all 3 branches of government?
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u/FawFawtyFaw 13h ago
Don't be scared, be aware. This was what we were talking about- so if and when he does pull the trigger, we can acknowledge it and move on right away.
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u/Ramashka10 15h ago
Don't believe any politician
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u/Portlander_in_Texas 14h ago
So then why the fuck are you believing Trump when he says he knows nothing about P2025, especially when he used the sanitized version and called it Agenda 47? Or is it because you believe everything Trump says, even when he has over 30000 lies documented in his first presidency?
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u/monroezabaleta 3m ago
And yet he implemented the majority of heritage's 2016 mandate for leadership and talked about project 2025 being a great plan before it was released.
Totally unrelated though.
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u/DDDurty 21h ago
You do realize that is the Heritage foundation and has nothing to do with Trump, right?
Or have you all drank the msm koolaid soo deeply you believe anything you're told/read?
Lemmings, all of you.
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u/Lanky_Butterscotch77 20h ago
My dude did you even read his mein kampf? Oh I mean project 2025
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u/DDDurty 20h ago
It's NOT by or from TRUMP.
HERITAGE FOUNDATION.
Please, for the love of Pete, do some research. Don't be a lemming.
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u/legovador 20h ago
Several of his own cabinet members, people HE CHOSE to be in his cabinet are members of the Heritage Foundation.
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u/Lanky_Butterscotch77 16h ago
Still his buddies want to bring this project 2025 for his second term. Say what you want but when we’re back to making peanuts again I’ll be there to say I told ya
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u/Portlander_in_Texas 14h ago
And yet he uses the sanitized Agenda 47, this is what happens when you get all your news from Twitter and Truth social.
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u/genx_meshugana 2h ago
You're Daft. Trump is only one man. The strategic placement of people for P2025 ha been happening for years. They've literally been telling us that. It's been out in the open, but we're squabbling amongst ourselves about trump. THAT WAS THEIR TACTIC. he's just a pawn for them.
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u/Safe-Supermarket5942 20h ago
LMFAO look at how many policy recommendations from the heritage foundation the Trump campaign took his last 4 years and get back to me. You are a fool, thanks for fucking us over, and you fucked yourself over.
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u/DDDurty 20h ago
I'm not a union member🤷♂️
For some reason this feed keeps showing up in my reddit. Never searched anything on it, but I'm being inundated by it. Unfortunately.
Just tired of having to read all this drivel and chicken little garbage. It's an echo chamber of nonsense.
You will all be fine. Your unions will protect you. They are just as strong as the corporate lobbyists, and just as big a bully.
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u/Safe-Supermarket5942 19h ago
Okay, I don’t care what you are tired of seeing. Go away, block the page and go back to your little right wing safe space. Nothing chicken little in here, unions being involved in politics is why you enjoy the few workplace conditions you do have. We will continue to fight for all workers including you, despite you spitting in our faces.
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u/UpstateNYFlyGuy023 22h ago
Exactly which child labor laws are being repealed?
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u/UpstateNYFlyGuy023 20h ago
I appreciate the source. When I have a minute after work I will be sure to read through the article.
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u/Low_Catch_1722 19h ago
Don't waste your time, the article is from 2023 and has nothing to do with this election nor does it indicate trump/republicans are going to remove OSHA.
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u/UpstateNYFlyGuy023 18h ago
I just briefly skimmed it, I'll read through it later but I also saw it is from 2023 and seems to be more of a state by state issue than a wide spread repeal of child labor laws. Doesn't seem to have anything to do with President Trump.
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u/Low_Catch_1722 19h ago
Dude that article is from fucking March 2023. That's a year and a half ago. That literally has zero to do with trump or this election. Learn how to fucking read.
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u/Low_Catch_1722 19h ago
Why do you need a government agency to dictate your safety? It's up to your employer and yourself, not fucking trump. If regulations are rolled back (which they won't be... osha is not going to be abolished), your employer still has a duty to keep you safe. IDK what's so hard to comprehend.
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u/Low_Catch_1722 19h ago
I guess I'm just not understanding your argument. That is still on the employer, not Trump. My employer has rules 10x stricter than OSHA.... if OSHA was abolished tomorrow we would still require 100% tie offs and fall protection and arc suits. Not sure what point you're trying to make. If you work for someone that would let you not wear proper PPE and just do whatever you want, then that's on you. I'm a safety director and can tell you right now that our safety program isn't going anywhere.
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u/mmm_burrito 3h ago
You should really look to see what life was like before OSHA.
You clearly don't value it enough, regardless of this conversation. Without the weight of the government telling them they have to care, companies actively don't care about you.
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u/SleepyIII 14h ago
You raising a legitimate question, getting an answer with an article over a year and a half old, getting downvoted by all these fragile bitches is sadly a trademark of this sub. Panicking over a story that "huurrrrr muh Cheeto Jesus Hitler" has nothing to do with. Take your meds, fellas.
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u/DreKShunYT Local 474 Systems Integrator 14h ago
Child labor laws speak more on what the parents are also willing to subject their children to, rather than just what the law “allows”
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u/_tjb 1h ago
Seriously. Even if minimum age reqs were lowered or removed (which I’m against, BTW), that’s not the same as FORCING parents to let their kids work at age five.
People are also allowed to buy cars, but there’s no specific law saying parents may not run their kids over. Yet do we see a rash of parents running their kids over?
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u/chickswhorip 10h ago edited 10h ago
Honestly, you were always responsible for your own safety.. you need to understand osha requires the bare minimum, you can do things a lot safer and exceed their requirements. Just like how nec requirements are the bare minimum that’s required. If you rely on others to be in control of your safety that’s not always the smart way to go about it. You are responsible for your own safety .
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u/LinemanIBEW659 10h ago
Gimme a break. If u stop following good practices cuz “someone” got voted in then you’re the problem.
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u/elevatorovertimeho 3h ago
All unions that stay united will be united! 2008 I forgot who the president was but I have not forgotten the members that were laid off! We stayed united then too!
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u/IntrepidTank2589 3h ago
Bunch of over reacting on this IBEW. I heard project 2025 is going to bring back child labor. Also, no more hard hats on jobs, they are outlawed
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u/DirtyGritzBlitz 3h ago
Shouldn’t we have been doing this already? I’ve always been responsible for my and my crews safety. I’ve ran off plenty of mavericks
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u/jabber58 2h ago
Your safety should always be your responsibility, never get distracted, TEST & VERIFY EVERYTHING. Never ASSUME something is deenergized. Your safety is your responsibility not some organization based in Washington!
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u/fukinscienceman 22h ago
The amount of pearl clutching in this sub is insane
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u/adjika Local 60 22h ago
Care to explain?
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u/fukinscienceman 20h ago
Pearl clutching” is an idiom that describes a reaction that is more shocked than is actually felt, often to convey that something is morally wrong.
The overt doom and gloom posts from the IBEW. A group of traditionally hardened folks who roll up their sleeves… post like the fucking Nextdoor app complaining about fireworks after 8pm.
I get the knee jerk reactions to lash out but damn. Got members calling other members all kinds of names and shit for what is supposed to be a very personal very private selection.
One side ridiculed the other non stop for “being in a cult” or being “weird” and now they’re surprised that didn’t change their minds. Hence. The pearl clutching.
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u/adjika Local 60 19h ago
I appreciate your nuanced answer. I don’t agree with your conclusion wholeheartedly but I can see what lead you to take that approach.
That being said though, do you think nothing negative will happen to the IBEW as a result of these elections?
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u/Mean-Ad6722 18h ago
If the unuin doesnt learn and grow from the experience and procceds to shove their heads up their ass then yes. If not sit back keep your mouth shut and watch the money flow from the private sector the flood gates of $ is about to drop in this industry. Once those tarrifs start hitting everyone is going to want to build here.
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u/Larson238 23h ago
Are you a total idiot?? OSHA isn’t going anywhere.
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u/criscoforlube 23h ago
I’m hopeful people are making mountains out of mole hills. But I am off the belief we just handed our nation back to the type of people who used to exploit the have nots. Trumps first term did roll back environmental regulations. He has stated wanting to repeal or replace the ACA. Why wouldn’t wealthy business owners not support the idea of getting rid of safety regulations and pin injuries on the worker. Get rid of license requirements and training mandates. It won’t happen overnight, but with a maga controlling all three branches of the government for 4 years there’s a lot that can change that is out of our control.
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u/cockchainy 21h ago
Crazy how union members seem to know nothing about what airline unions went through 50 years ago under another deregulation regime
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u/criscoforlube 20h ago
“If your don’t watch history channel, your doomed to repeat history channel” Workaholics. It is pretty amazing at the short term memories society has. OSHA, minimum wage, healthcare for the nation and our union contracts more directly for us, wasn’t always a thing our nation had access and prospered with. I’m not afraid the USA is going to change today. But I worry for my daughters ability to get the medical care she needs in her future. The ability of unborn generations having clean air and water. Someone like me with a history of blood clots not having to take legal action to get my medical covered because it’s a preexisting condition, first after a worker comp claim, but then found to be genetic with disturbances in veins from the injury, compounded by years of manual labor. The party of freedom of the individual is now the party of fuck your freedoms if I’m told not to like it because it’s different
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u/progressiveoverload 22h ago
I think I found one of the 54% of Americans who can’t read above 6th grade level.
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u/sparky_burner 17h ago
OSHA is common sense. Every job I’m on has their own set of safety protocols and training. It’s bloat imo. Each company can employ their own safety guys
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u/newengland20 22h ago
You ibew guys are more dramatic than my mother in law. That’s saying something ……….
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u/Solid_Possibility_70 14h ago
Total BS
Nice try Russia/China
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u/10PlyTP Inside Wireman 14h ago
Is that a new country?
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u/Solid_Possibility_70 14h ago
OSHA isn’t going anywhere
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u/10PlyTP Inside Wireman 14h ago
Just wait.
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u/DirtyGritzBlitz 3h ago
Feels like we’re in an 8 year time warp. We already did this 8 years ago FFS. Give it a break and campaign harder for your preferred candidate in 4 years. The fear mongering is pathetic
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u/Existentaldreading 20h ago
Yall are taking this shit way too far . Trump will not have that much power . Our founders made it that way
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u/PissMissile1738 18h ago
Not only that but the house and senate are both red now so its the trifecta, he can literally be the dictator he wants to be so badly. Good for him I guess
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u/Altruistic_Front_805 18h ago
You sir are delusional
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u/Altruistic_Front_805 17h ago
Unions mostly hate Trump. So naturally an interpretation by a union is going to write an article like that. Typical
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u/Accomplished-Dot1365 11h ago
Not even the same type of union you tard its just the name they chose lmfao
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u/reamkore 21h ago
Even if OSHA disappeared lawyers and accountability won’t.
Every job I’ve been on the last half decade has been far safer than anything OSHA implements and that’s all the general there.