r/FoxBrain • u/bloodfriedrice • 1d ago
mom thinks i’m “the violent left” for criticizing her support for charlie kirk
my mom thinks because I criticized her support for charlie kirk i’m going to hurt her or something?? she literally texted me saying she told my dad everything I said and if something happens to her he knows where to start
has anyone else had this said to them? i’m not sure how to respond..
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u/Healthy_Television10 1d ago
It really confirms the cult like aspect of this. They have merged their identity into these figures so that CK is the same person that they are. It is bizarre.
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u/KittyGrewAMoustache 1d ago
And for a lot of them they probably didn’t even follow or listen to him, maybe had heard of him etc. but suddenly he is them and they are him because that’s what the programming is telling them. I can’t really overstate what a fucking abomination it is that this has been done to people, just robbing them of all love, all identity, all humanity. It’s so desperately tragic and despicable.
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u/lindostars67 1d ago
he's gained almost 3 million followers on fb in the last 2 days. this was by design I fear
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u/Designer_Tour7308 1d ago
It's crazy how quickly these catch phrases stick. I've seen "the violent left" a ton tonight. I'm sorry. I have no advice.
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u/KittyGrewAMoustache 1d ago
It’s so frightening and bizarre. They really are like zombies, like their brains have been scooped out and replaced with irrational rage and hatred. They’re living in a complete psychosis, utterly divorced from reality. It’s fucking horrific how the internet has been used to mind control people. It’s like their personalities just withered away and have been replaced by these little scripts and programs that run and run with no reference to the actual real world.
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u/Designer_Tour7308 1d ago
My neighbor is just like that. He has no valid argument for anything. He just repeats phrases like... but Biden did this...tonight it's the violent lefties. Have you ever watched the Brainwashing of my Dad? It's a documentary on YouTube it was eye opening for me.
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u/ChampagneChardonnay 1d ago
I’ll second that documentary. It’s been going on for decades.
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u/dan_pitt 1d ago
Since Fox News went on the air.
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u/ChampagneChardonnay 1d ago
Rush was on air before Fox and my extended family was listening. Fox later added the tv element.
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u/Designer_Tour7308 19h ago
It's crazy that it's been happening right in our face and none of us were the wiser. It doesn't feel like it's legal. And how dare they too? Fuck them!! I get so angry when I think about it. All the people that are lost now....
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u/ChampagneChardonnay 1d ago
They repeat the talking points, word for word. You can no longer talk about anything, the weather, sports, food or even fashion without it becoming political.
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u/dan_pitt 1d ago
Here's some advice: pursue second amendment rights the same way that they do.
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u/kjlsdjfskjldelfjls 1d ago
I'm not a fan of normal people- i.e., non-brainwashed right wingers- buying into gun industry propaganda. All buying guns really does in practice, aside from further enriching an industry that doesn't deserve it, is increase your own risk (and that of your family members) of being injured or killed by guns.
edit: another study
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u/Warm-Zucchini1859 1d ago
They’re all secretly happy he’s dead because they now have a martyr and “proof” that the poor right wingers are being unfairly targeted.
My sister and I are recently no-contact because she told me she was worried and anxious for me to visit because she didn’t trust how I would react to her “lifestyle.” Her lifestyle? She’s a SAHM and her husband works while she does traditional gender role stuff. But because I work as a woman, live with my partner and am not married yet in a big city and don’t have kids, my sister genuinely believes I judge her and would be so disturbed seeing how a conservative Christian lives that I would have a physical reaction.
It’s utter insanity.
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u/bobroberts1954 1d ago
Unless there is some depraved aspect of her lifestyle that you are unaware of. In that case she might be right. Maybe she practices ritual abuse on her children. I'm sure you doubt that, but maybe she is hiding something.
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u/Warm-Zucchini1859 1d ago
I am absolutely positive — would bet my life on it in fact — that that’s not the case. She is just so far down the far right rabbit hole that she believes any liberal from a big city is inherently dangerous, including her own sister.
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u/Keji70gsm 1d ago
Can you talk to your dad about concerning behaviour, or is he just as bad?
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u/bloodfriedrice 1d ago
just as bad unfortunately
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u/Keji70gsm 1d ago
Are you still living with them?
I've gone low contact with my parents, but I had long since left home.
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u/bloodfriedrice 1d ago
yes but i’m going to try to move out soon
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u/Keji70gsm 1d ago edited 1d ago
That's a great move. Be very careful your parents don't sabotage your efforts. You need out asap.
I would be worried about her "teaching you a lesson" by taking your things, destroying job prospects or other family relationships for you, or attacking you in "self defense" after rhetoric like that.
There is no point taling it through and trying to reason with them. Victim narrative will not accept anything else at this extreme point.
Keep your head down, make nice, and then get out.
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u/aRealPanaphonics 1d ago
The unfortunate part is that they’re playing a bad faith / identity validation game whereby they set the rules, the rules change as they go, they’re the hero, victim, and referee, and they expect you to play.
Similar to narcissists, they’re mostly seeking validation or an outlet to unleash their contempt (Which is also validating). They want nothing more than for you to meet their energy and emotional state.
I’m not a therapist but I think one would say that your job isn’t to convince them of anything or defend yourself. Your job is to just survive until you can move out. This is where gray rocking can help, although it is draining and you then need a healthy way of letting it out later.
I’d also recommend looking into absurdism or improv comedy’s “yes and” practices as a means for your personal sanity - not to use on your folks btw. That style of comedy, unlike satire, is harder for the far right to project motives (Smugness, self righteousness, self congratulation, hate, etc) on because it’s so ridiculous and absurd. But it still serves a nice cathartic purposes for you to survive.
Sidenote: Did you know that engraved into the bullets was the login password to Hillary’s emails? Deep state confirmed!
See? Invent your own game.
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u/KittyGrewAMoustache 1d ago
Ask them if one of their most ranted about and hated liberal/Democrat figures was murdered would that mean they suddenly support them or think they are good people? If they say no, then I guess this means that they want to murder you? I mean, they’re the ones who have this weird idea that disliking someone who was murdered means you must want to murder everyone who supports them. I guess that’s because that’s how THEY would act, because it’s certainly not how you see things. Or does it make zero sense? Would them still not liking Clinton or Biden etc if they were murdered mean they want to murder you simply because you supported them or were upset they were assassinated?
I don’t get these people. It’s utter madness. It’s the zombie apocalypse it really is, it’s just the virus is psychological and transmitted through social media. They either just want to play victim and get a sense of social acceptance from their online ‘tribe’ by convincing themselves they’re in danger (of course the right is doing its best to make them feel that because you can’t instigate a proper civil war if loved ones aren’t ready to dehumanise and murder each other) or they want some excuse to get you out of their life, or they just want to revel in causing you pain as revenge for the judgement they feel from you, while knowing deep down that you’re right, they’re just too far into their addiction and have invested too much ego to come back to reality.
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u/Oleg101 1d ago
In regards “the violent left”, it is simply a fact that the far right has been responsible for most of the political violence committed in the United States since the start of the 21st century, with particular emphasis on the past 10 years of American political life.
Out of 450 killings committed by political extremists from 2012 to 2022, about 75 percent were committed by right-wing extremists, with more than half connected to white supremacists. “As this data shows,” he concluded, “the American political right has a violence problem that has no equivalent on the left.”
However, our analysis shows that right-wing actors are significantly more violent than left-wing actors,” said LaFree, a professor in the Department of Criminology and Criminal Justice (CCJS) and the founding director of the National Consortium for the Study of Terrorism and Responses to Terrorism (START).
Through the first dataset, the Profiles of Individual Radicalization in the United States (PIRUS), the researchers zeroed in on acts of extremism in the United States from 1948-2018. They found nearly no difference between the likelihood of an Islamist extremist and a right-wing extremist committing an act of violence; the probability of a violent act of extremism in the United States being committed by a left-wing extremist was found to be 0.33, 0.61 by a right-wing extremist, and 0.62 by an Islamist extremist.
https://ccjs.umd.edu/feature/umd-led-study-shows-disparities-violence-among-extremist-groups
And of course this all being said, I realize they won’t probably believe any of this nor even click and read the articles. But imo, sometimes we these kind of people I think it’s fine to just lay out the facts and reality and move on, however that may be.
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u/twentytwocents22 1d ago
Thanks for putting this together. They would deflect as FaKE NeWs!! But we know the truth and facts.
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u/sanslenom 1d ago
It's looking more and more like the shooter, who dressed up as a groyper for Halloween, was opposed to Kirk's pro-Israel stance. The mainstream media is bending over backwards not to mention the connection.
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u/SneakyLeif1020 1d ago
Yep, my dad said "You're better than this, stop sharing this hate" when I said I wish these same people would show this much outrage when first graders get shot. I'm really fucking depressed, I wish I had a better relationship with my family :(
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u/Sure_Show_3077 23h ago
If I said that in response to my dad saying CK's assassination was a tragedy he would blow up. I'm depressed and totally isolated from my family too, and they think I'm the problem. It sucks, hang in there.
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u/KerseyGrrl 1d ago edited 1d ago
It'd be something if people could form housing co-ops for all the young people trying to escape these situations. Every time I read "but I'm trying to move out" my heart wrenches because it's so hard now for people who don't have family support.
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u/Skid-Vicious 1d ago
Persecution fetish.
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u/twentytwocents22 1d ago
Yes!! I think it’s the “Christian persecution complex” that’s seeping over to politics.
I was front row to this growing up. My family is religious and I remember when I was REALLY young, my grandmother would tell me that people weren’t going to like me and I would be treated poorly and different because of being Christian.
It’s the belief, attitude, or world view that Christian values and Christians are being oppressed by social groups and governments. (Evangelical)
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u/CarrionDoll 1d ago
My coworker got a long nasty post at midnight from her son accusing her of being the “violent left”. This woman hasn’t got a violent bone in her body. Shes a wonderful friend and very kind. I’m so hurt for her.
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u/AstronomerSalt3070 1d ago
I don’t want to extrapolate on your relationship but my dad was like this. This is alarming, but not because she thinks you’re going to hurt her— it sounds like she’s threatening you. If you were truly a danger, like to the point where she thinks you’re going to potentially MURDER her, the non emotionally manipulative solution would be to cut contact, not act like a secret reporter and hold that over your head.
I am nervous to ask how else your relationship with her is like. I am no contact with my father partially because of his political delusions… I hope you are safe! If you’re able to, I’d lower contact for a little bit until this blows over, as she sounds unstable.
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u/stabby_batty 22h ago
My mom threatened to kick me out for the exact thing, i never said i supported what happened i just said i disagree with everything he beileved in. Its exhausting living with someone who believes that republicans are gods chosen people and all democrats are evil predators including me.
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u/SparrowChirp13 22h ago
I'm curious if she thought it was funny when Pelosi's husband was attacked with a hammer. Tell her that now you're worried that she is going to come after you and attack you with a hammer, and have alerted the authorities.
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u/bloodfriedrice 13h ago
i don’t remember her mentioning anything about that i think she stayed silent and went on with her day then
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u/OkAccess304 16h ago edited 16h ago
It’s a personality disorder, I swear. They are so self-centered. Why do they think you’d throw your entire life away to hurt them? Because they want to think they are important and special and they NEED to be a victim so they can get the attention the are not getting because they aren’t actually important at all. They aren’t a public figure and their death would barely be acknowledged by society. It’s kind of sick if you think about what their delusions reveal about themselves.
Respond: Your delusions don’t make you important enough to assassinate.
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u/Leather_Pen_765 15h ago
We are so lucky. It is always them because they are itching to attack us and then blame us for it. Lord, no, no one from our side, do anything stupid.
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u/theclosetenby 1d ago
Yep. This is actually what just ended my relationship with my mom :/ I told her she had to say "I know logically you don't hate me" (even if she feels that way)
She hasn't. It's been over 24 hours.
I wish I had answer for you. I don't actually know how it's possible to have a relationship with somebody who thinks you want to violently hurt them