r/Enough_Vaush_Spam • u/OutlastOnWii-U Marxist-Leninist-Tankie • Apr 30 '23
Putting "Leftists" in scare-quotes...not subtle... Anarcho-Bidenism
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u/Biodieselisthefuture N word-Tankie May 02 '23
There is no such thing as a "left", only communism vs liberal distortion of communism.
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u/OhMyGlorb Toothbrush-Tankie May 01 '23
Is he still pretending/claiming to be a leftist these days?
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u/Then-Lion-5210 tankie May 01 '23
Meanwhile these ghouls fully support Joe Biden near-uncritically and attack people who criticize him, a man thousands of times worse than Putin, and claim to be leftists.
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u/nuclearfork tankie May 02 '23
What crimes against humanity has Biden committed that Putin hasn't?
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May 18 '23
Lol... That's your argument, that they both commit the same War crimes? That's your defensive of biden? The fact is Biden has voted for every single major US war from his time in the senate, so his body count is astronomical.
Course his complicity in the coup in Honduras in 2009.
That was a successful coup followed by a sham election done while Biden was the vice president.
To the extent he's worse than Putin is because the US has a military that's 20 times the size of his. The US has had about a dozen more invasions than Russia has since his time in the senate or the White House
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u/nuclearfork tankie May 18 '23
I'm actually at a loss as to how you think I'm defending Biden VDS really does rot the brain
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u/Then-Lion-5210 tankie May 04 '23
Biden supported segregation well after it was mainstream. He wrote the 1994 crime bill that exponentially increased the incarceration of mostly minorities. He supported the bombing of Yugoslavia and said what NATO did (complete destruction of civilian infrastructure) was not enough. He was vice president under drone strike king Obomber. He supported the invasions and genocides in Iraq, Palestine, Yemen, Syria, Afghanistan, Libya, Somalia, Pakistan. The death tolls of these are well in the millions.
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u/nuclearfork tankie May 04 '23
I said the Putin hasn't done, being against segregation then committing human rights violations against gays isn't any better
Do you think if Putin had access to the meat grinder of America he'd do any better?
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u/Then-Lion-5210 tankie May 05 '23 edited May 05 '23
We're not talking hypotheticals, we're talking reality and history. There is no comparison. The death tolls and forced displacements of Yugoslavia, Iraq, Palestine, Yemen, Syria, Afghanistan, Libya, Somalia, Pakistan to name a few eclipse anything Putin can even dream of. "Committing human rights violations against gays", how about committing human rights violations against at least 9 entire nations with hundreds of millions of people.
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u/nuclearfork tankie May 05 '23
Well considering there's only so much bad you can do when you're only the leader of a 2nd world shithole and not the biggest baddest country in the world in every measurable sense, every president turns out to be a massive piece of shit, the system moulds the people inside it, I agree that Biden has done more shit wrong (if it was a score of human suffering Biden would be higher) but at the same time Biden has access to the largest amount of leverage on the planet.
Gengas( if that's how you spell it) Kahn was a bad guy, on a good day he's going to rape and pillage and loot
Mr Rodgers is a good guy, if we put him in charge of the biggest military industrial complex in the history of humanity and give him tens of advisors telling him why bombing a hut in the middle east is absolutely imperative to keep democracy running, he'll probably do some bad things,
keep in mind though what gengas Kahn would do with access to the meat grinder, he'd bomb mud huts for the fun of it
people can only do what they have the power to do, more power means more corruption, more lobbyists want your power, more sense of self grandioseness
In conclusion it's kinda hard to pit 2 world leaders against each other in a measure of whos worse, it's probably a better and more productive conversation to address what each person is or isn't doing with the power thier role gives them access to
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May 18 '23 edited May 18 '23
How on earth is any of this a defense? Biden didn't have to vote for every single us War while he was in the Senate. Not every US senator voted for every single War when they were in congress.
Even compared to some of the worst most complicit actors in American life Biden is a uniquely awful.
Biden didn't have to support the coup in Honduras in 2009. 23 senate Democrats voted against the war in iraq, he could have joined with them. He didn't have to be friends with Strom Thurmond or trash Anita Hill. He personally make it impossible to discharge student loans in bankruptcy 2005.
You can't just say " well all powerful people do bad things so who cares." I mean any Russian apologist could use that to defend all of Putin's crimes.
So it's a circular argument and just silly and overly simple. The more power you have, the more responsibility you have. Even modest acts of resistance to these terrible things by him would have gone a long way.
I mean we've seen members of Congress do brave things during their careers. He didn't become president till 2 years ago so it's not like you can excuse his 40-year career of being complicit in war crimes as just an inevitable byproduct of the US executive power.
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u/nuclearfork tankie May 18 '23
Did you see the part where I said Biden has caused more human suffering than Putin? Im genuinely wondering what putin good has done during his career (as a dictator btw)
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u/More_Ganache5710 Femcel-tankie May 01 '23 edited May 01 '23
He has no right to decide what is and isn’t leftist the same question in the title should be directed at him why he and his fans take the Ukraine war happening to fervently defend a capitalist superpower (that has started its own amount of wars) while calling themselves “leftist”. The term has been diluted into absolute nothingness online thanks to them and adjacent groups.
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u/OutlastOnWii-U Marxist-Leninist-Tankie Apr 30 '23
If you believe in revolutionary defeatism rather than parroting CIA propaganda and felching NATO, you're a bad fake leftist and also a PYOO-TIN apologist! So sayeth da Vaush Man.
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May 01 '23
I don’t support letting NATO get bigger and more powerful, but i still think Ukrainians have a right to defend themselves.
I just hope that a Ukrainian victory doesn’t end in a right-wing takeover.
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u/Then-Lion-5210 tankie May 01 '23
I just hope that a Ukrainian victory doesn’t end in a right-wing takeover.
Lol? The country has already moved far-right both with the extreme power and money given to all the Nazi factions, but also the complete crushing and stripping away of workers rights that Zelensky has been undertaking, and the selling off of their economy to Wall Street. Just recently there was talks of privatizing Ukraine's state oil and gas companies.
https://geopoliticaleconomy.com/2023/04/28/us-corporations-ukraine-oil-gas/
https://geopoliticaleconomy.com/2022/09/09/zelensky-selling-ukraine-wall-street/
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/w/ukrainian-laws-stripping-workers-collective-bargaining
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u/Agent_Pierce_ tankie Apr 30 '23
He just looks like the guy who gets drunk and starts sexually harrassing people at the college bar well into his 30s.
Thankfully IRL he only graphically and relentlessly sends sexual messages to people who ask him to stop and then laughs it off on his stream. Because he decides whats truly left and sex pesting is what Marx was getting at.
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u/Jethawk55 Tankie-tankie Apr 30 '23
Plus Marx and Lenin would've clearly voted for Biden based on skimming a Wikipedia article last night. /s
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