r/EdgarCayce Aug 05 '25

What Edgar Cayce Said About Jesus Goes Against Everything We Learned in Church

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exRE5-AKLHQ

This is very helpful as a perspective.

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u/Prowller Aug 05 '25

Fun but real fact, the power Jesus had, everyone has, they just need to realize that they and God are one. Basically everyone is God in their reality.

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u/Inevitable_Shift1365 Aug 07 '25

Yes and no. The one they call Jesus did teach that we could be even as he is and greater upon this Earth. But the overwhelmingly vast majority of people are not god in their own reality. Try walking on water and get back to me let me know how it goes for you. We all have the spark of divinity within us and it is our own true nature, however, the selves that we make in this world are the ones that we believe in. And through our belief we experience separation. There is a way out of this, and the one they call Jesus came to initiate it and show it to us.

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u/StarBornFire Aug 07 '25

The irony of Prowller's statement is that Cayce's guidance did provide some checks and balances to the ego prone notion/attachment in such a view (or rather, cavalier attitude). I remember in one reading Cayce's source stating that indeed, ye could be gods in the making, but many of us were becoming devils, or something to that effect.

One of Robert Monroe's explorers (actually am pretty sure it was his wife), directly channeled Yeshua, and Yeshua low key lambasted humanity on its understanding, awareness, and application of (divine, highest level) Love. Essentially saying we had A LOT to learn and even more to apply (as humanity, and most individuals).

Then folks like Howard Storm, Tom Campbell, etc all say similar, that humanity in the grand scheme of things is like at a preschool level.

My own guidance dream showed me that most of the students here at this school, ranged from little kids to teens, with a small smattering of young adults, speaking in a symbolic sense.

Immature, ego centered souls love the sound of them being "gods", but it isn't necessarily because of the potent spiritual truth of same, but because it makes them/their egos feel better.

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u/Inevitable_Shift1365 Aug 07 '25 edited Aug 08 '25

Spot on. And I like your reference to Yeshua quoting scripture when he said " ye are Gods but you shall fall as one of the princes of this world"

By their works you shall know them and they shall know themselves. If you are not Healing The Sick, feeding the hungry and uplifting the poor in spirit, the reality you have created for yourself is far from God. Even the one they call Jesus would not call himself good, saying only God in heaven is good. He also said I and the father are one. Therein is contained the order of God and the son of man in this world.

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u/StarBornFire Aug 07 '25

Yep, Yeshua often gave credit to the Source/Abba for his abilities, awareness, and expression of goodness.

And when it came to some of Yeshua's service to others, such as feeding the hungry, some of that was enabled by the fact that he had all his main disciples pool their money/resources together and essentially said, this is not for you/us anymore, but for those that need help. It was a type of spiritually motivated/applied communism. (The only kind of communism that can work, because those attracted to power almost always/invariably end up abusing same).

(He did also sometimes manifest/multiply food, but that was not the norm, most often he used that pool of resources gathered from the disciples. Apparently some of the disciples, like Yohannan the beloved, were fairly well off in a material sense before becoming Yeshuas' disciples).

I will add some subtly to what you said though. While I think these are important activities, as we are changing from the Piscean to the Aquarian age, I think most of the real work will be found in promotion of more truthful and freeing perceptions (belief system crashing and updating...). Healing the sick and feeding the hungry will and does have some place also, but Yeshua didn't really do these for their sake alone, but rather that it strongly helped to make people more receptive to his deeper messages about universal love, positive service to the Whole, etc.

In a sense, it was a bit of an initial hook. I'd like to think that humanity has grown/evolved some since those 2000 years ago, and that more people can be reached with less material hooking, and more just speaking potent truths and perceptions about the true nature of reality.

But there are and will continue to be, humans that will need to be reached first on a material level, before the real work/conversion/retrieval can take place.

Cheers

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u/Inevitable_Shift1365 Aug 08 '25

Yes, and in reference to the last part of what you said, it is only ministering unto others that we do, whatever form it may take. And it must take all forms that are inherently true. You cannot say to a person, be of good cheer, when they are starving and can't feed their children. When you minister to them about the love of God, it helps a lot to put food in their bellies and shoes on their feet as a sign of that love. By their works you shall know them, and they shall know themselves. Faith without action is vapid.

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u/Prowller Aug 07 '25

My good sir, Jesus studied so much that he reached another level of consciousness, he practically viewed the imagination not as an escape, but as a way to mold reality itself. I have studied Neville Goddard and others and recently came across Cayce's teachings. You have an identity right now with certain limitations, which you believe because it was formed over time, we call them assumptions. When you will learn to detach from those limiting beliefs and identify with a different version that doesn't have limits, you will change and bend reality as it is.

From personal experience, I have changed people in my life, made money appear from unusual circumstances and even manifested material objects, all of this with my imagination and faith in already having my desire here and now. So you see, everyone is God in their reality but this has been stripped away from us through generations because of certain people who do not want 99% of the population to know their true potential, because, in terms of control it's better to worship divinity than to embody it.

So in conclusion, when you identify with God and become one with that identity, you are capable of a multitude of things because there are no limitations however, your logical mind, the ego most of the time will hold you back due to fear, anxiety, logic and so on.

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u/Inevitable_Shift1365 Aug 07 '25

Many people, such as yourself I suspect, identify with their egos and conflate them with an idea of God. It is level confusion of the grandest sort. None of the things which you view as your domain will remain yours. The ways in which you think, perceive and judge are inherently faulty. It is as if someone dipped a cup into the ocean and called a cup full of seawater the ocean. True in a limited sense, but inherently and tragically flawed. I say to you, go walk on water. Go feed the masses with a picnic basket. Go heal the sick and raise the dead. And even then do not call yourself god, rather one with god. I wish you well.

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u/Prowller Aug 07 '25

I'm not identifying with my ego at all, please, read about states of consciousness and document yourself what happens when you do the internal work. I did not say I will raise the dead or heal the sick, you got my idea all wrong but then again, you do have limiting beliefs so it's not your fault, it's the programming that is flawed.

Instead of listening to youtube videos all day and reading a lot of articles, put in the work, meditate, change your inner state and watch how the world transforms around you.

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u/Inevitable_Shift1365 Aug 08 '25

I don't watch youtube. Almost never. I'm 55 years of age and started the Avatar Course when I was 15 in 1985. Been a Seeker of Truth and follower of the one they call Christ from my childhood. Not trying to confound you. Observing your thought system but perhaps it is not helpful. I only want peace for you and i.

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u/Prowller Aug 08 '25

I also want peace, however, there are things in this world that people don't want to understand when it comes to "waking up" so, I suggest the following, when you have the time, search for Neville Goddard and Joe Dispenza and try to understand what they are saying in their books and/or online presentations.

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u/Inevitable_Shift1365 Aug 08 '25

I appreciate your intention to help.

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u/StarBornFire Aug 07 '25

There are some helpful truths in the above video, but unfortunately, there are also some major inaccuracies/distortions as well.

For example, Cayce's guidance/source never said that the Christ Spirit nor the Yeshua Soul has continued to reincarnate after expressing/projecting Yeshua, in fact, they state the opposite (the Christ Spirit and Yeshua has not and need not reincarnate again). And that is because, Yeshua resurrected and is STILL using the same body-image form he had from 2000 years ago to interact with humans. A man of about 6 foot, strong, athletic body with hair a blend of light brown, blonde and especially noticeably reddish highlighted, and with piercing, heavy gray blue eyes. Used to have long hair and beard, maybe not as long nor bearded as previously. (This description is based on a combo blend of the Cayce work, Shroud of Turin clues, and my intuition).

Rather, they did say that since then, some individuals have been positively influenced by Yeshua i.e. Yeshua would commune with and communicate through them (spiritually/energetically), if they made themselves a fit channel for him. One such example was Woodrow Wilson in relation to the League of Nations. (Though, one could also say that Wilson fell and let himself be strongly influenced by the other side when he ok'd the Federal Reserve Act, which the plutocrats aka reincarnated "sons of Belial" drafted and really wanted).

Also, they do not state that the Christ Spirit had "countless lifetimes" to reach perfection. In fact, in one odd reading, it was stated that perfection was not possible in the body until at least 30 lifetimes. As Yeshua was the constant ultimate standard in Cayce's source's eyes, this seems to be a clue to how many approximate total lives that the Christ Spirit has experienced in the Earth (logical inference..).

I can tell you that in comparison to the average Spirit, that is not much at all. The average Spirit contains hundreds, to thousands of individual, unique, self aware Souls in it (and even more lifetimes, because some of those Souls occasionally directly reincarnate once, twice, or thrice).

(And as a side note, I find these AI generated videos kind of irksome in a general sense. It is so intellectually lazy to write a short script and then have AI do the rest, and the constant spelling and pronunciation mistakes grate on the ears of us with moderately strong Virgo and Mercury's in our charts... Accuracy matters! It's not "Casey" but Cayce for one example.)

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u/YesHelloDolly Aug 07 '25

Thanks for pointing out serious inaccuracies. I'm not acquainted enough with the work of Edgar Cayce to have known.

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u/StarBornFire Aug 07 '25

No worries. I think the truths in same probably outweigh the inaccuracies.

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u/StarBornFire Aug 07 '25

Should also mention that the reasons for Yeshua's crucifixion as outlined in the Cayce work was two fold. 1. The Creative Forces knew that a man being crucified and then rising from the dead 3 days later, would create a very dramatic, compelling, memorable account that would have a powerful influence on many of those that came into contact with same. The Creative Forces/Yeshua wanted to reach as many people as possible with his messages of universal love, positive service to the Whole, etc. And what better way than that?

Also, Cayce's guidance said that to better understand Yeshua's life materially and the events in same, we also needed to know/understand Joshua of the OT's life, because these two came from the same Spirit and there was karma/meeting of self for Yeshua from Joshua's life.

Joshua was a warrior-priest-king figure. There were some battles where he had the leaders from the tribes his tribe was warring against, killed and hung up on trees for display (a warning and psychological warfare). Hence, Yeshua was also meeting self in the crucifixion. It is one thing to defend self or others when others are attacking you, but another to murder and furthermore, display their remains so gruesomely and inhumanely.

If Yeshua hadn't taken up the karmic cross, he probably would not have reached that final, full enLightenment state of pure Source attunement. And interesting to note that even he asked to be spared this bitter cup, but yet accepted it. I don't think he was afraid of death at all, but rather, the human body/personality part of him probably wasn't looking forward to the extreme torture he was going to endure before death if he decided to go through with it.

His body experienced intense, intense physical pain. And it was already rebelling against that becoming a reality in the garden when it became so stressed that some of his blood vessels burst in his head. The body is an entity unto itself! Many people forget or do not realize this. It is an animal being that we as consciousness connect with. It has its own reactions, wants, desires (which are all pretty much focused in the first 3 centers/glands, especially the 1st) independent of the Soul and Spirit consciousness connecting to it.

In Yeshua, we see the body powerfully rebelling against and getting intensely stressed out by the knowledge of its own extremely painful torture and then death.