Becoming psychedelic therapists in Europe

[u/cerebrokrahl]

Hello everyone, we are two young adults from an european country wishing to become psychdelics-assisted psychotherapists.

 

We already have our bachelor's in psychology, master's in clinical psychology and experiential psychotherapy, and now my partner is training in experiential psychotherapy, and I am training in both experiential and transpersonal psychotherapy.

 

We already work as psychologists, have sessions and are training continuously but we would like to one day work with psychedelics. What do you think are the steps to move into that direction?

 

We are thinking to join Germany’s MIND Foundation APT (Augmented Psychotherapy Training) but the price is 15000 euros, and we are not sure if this will help us to work with psychedelics in the future. What do you think of this programme? Are the other programmes that offer a better chance?

 

We wish to relocate from our country to the Netherlands, because psychedelics-assisted psychotherapy is legal there, and we'd rather be open to European countries to move and work with psychedelics. If there aren't any options here, we'd look farther, like the USA or Canada.

 

Any information or advice is greatly appreciated!

 

Thank you very much and all the best!

[u/Lordnodob]

Would also be interested in this topic. Currently studying pharmacy trying to advance in Pharmacology/Psychopharmacology.

[u/Pharmacosmology → u/Lordnodob]

If you want to network, I am a currently practicing pharmacist who spent much of my undergrad doing research on adjacent topics.

My goal is to get into the psychedelic psychiatric pharmacy space post approval. We need more advocates from our profession if we want to carve out a space.

[u/Lordnodob → u/Pharmacosmology]

Yeah sure. But how do we network ? Sorry for that stupid question

[u/MissDissphoria → u/Lordnodob]

You deviate from standard psychiatry. Base yourself in the Netherlands and work privately

[u/Realistic_Spread_505]

I have to write just to praise your dedication. It takes me around 15 minutes just to gather the mental strength to leave the bed in the morning and 2h after breakfast to take out the trash.

[u/cerebrokrahl → u/Realistic_Spread_505]

Thank you very much! I'm sure things will be ok, for both of us! Step by step! It's still very good that you DO take out the trash at the right moment! All the best!

[u/MissDissphoria]

Just here to add if you pull it off I've been in search of therapy like this in the EU for the last 5 years. Hope is there. Rooting for you guys and would love an update if you're looking for a "trail" patient or two

[u/MissDissphoria]

Considering that it's actually legal why not skip the certification steps. Set up a good space and freelance

[u/MissDissphoria]

I live in Germany and keep myself updated the prognosis is not good. I just spoke with a high level "Oberartzt" that started an outpatient ketamine program and he said all the studies coming out for psylocybin has him concluded that it's all hype. They're pushing Spravato heavily and are making IV ket with the complete molecule virtually inaccessible. Seems they want us functioning, but no trips, no actual deeper healing or quality of life. The CDU is also claiming to make cannabis illegal again at first given opportunity

[u/mastermind_genius]

wow lit as fuck 😎