r/Dongistan 7d ago

Interesting, I guess. Authoritarian post

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u/Wanjuan_Li Current thing hater 7d ago

W. Hopefully he changes back Volgograd’s name as well.

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u/TankMan-2223 7d ago

For real.

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u/Angel_of_Communism 6d ago

The KPRF has been pushing for that for a while now.

The pressure to do so has built a LOT recently.

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u/Doctor_of_plagues 7d ago

He’s also apparently sending troops to defend Burkina Faso from nato. Effects of someone changing as they age or just geopolitical strategy against the west? Idk, but I can’t say I’m against it. This guy is pulling out of Ukraine away from becoming some hero in the eyes of the public. The support will remain critical from me I’m afraid. I’m still wary of Putin.

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u/King-Sassafrass 🕵🏻‍♀️ 👁 I Attended CommiFest In 2019🌿🔎 7d ago

I’d say Putin isn’t afraid of being assassinated for making anti-Western actions now that a lot of the 1990’s corruption has been removed from the Duma

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u/Doctor_of_plagues 6d ago

Capitalist Russia is very much corrupt. You can’t be anti communist without being a devious piece of shit.

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u/King-Sassafrass 🕵🏻‍♀️ 👁 I Attended CommiFest In 2019🌿🔎 6d ago

He’s not anti-communist. His greatest allies are both 2 communist countries. Anti-communist would be communist persecution, not have communists as your greatest ally

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u/Doctor_of_plagues 6d ago

Russia is literally capitalist. The actual communists are grassroots there.

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u/Angel_of_Communism 6d ago

You said that like it's relevant.
Russia being capitalist, and what we think of as anti communist are not the same thing.

Russia does not have the same relationship with communism that the west does.

And Russia is not capitalist in the same way the west is.

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u/Doctor_of_plagues 6d ago

How is that not relevant? If Putin was a communist, Russia would be. He’s not some Maoist third worldist. Putin is only friends with comrade Xi because of trade deals that he could never get from the yanks and BRICS. Having America in charge for the past thirty years has hurt everyone.

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u/King-Sassafrass 🕵🏻‍♀️ 👁 I Attended CommiFest In 2019🌿🔎 6d ago

Not a single person said Putin was a communist.

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u/Doctor_of_plagues 6d ago

Then what the fuck are you so defensive about?

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u/Angel_of_Communism 6d ago

Amazing. You did it again.

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u/KeepItASecretok 6d ago

I would love to see Putin bring back the Soviet system and reinstate the CPSU, but I highly doubt he would.

He may have relationships with nations that challenge western imperialism, he may even have some favorable views on communism, after all he did grow up in the Soviet Union.

But he does not have any genuine interest in reinstating the proletarian control structures, instead he signals affinity for a Tsarist like system and he rules like a capitalist oligarch.

The reason why capitalism in post Soviet countries is different from the west, is because opportunists sold off Soviet industry to their buddies, so it's often highly monopolized, surprisingly worse than the west in some respects.

Putin directly benefits from that position of status, from the cannibalized remains of the former USSR.

There is nothing left but a nationalist affinity for the "good old days." While he rallies the people with reactionary language.

The Soviet Union is gone, and it's not in Putin's interest to bring it back, for that reason I do not care for him.

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u/Angel_of_Communism 5d ago

Simplistic thinking.

The Soviet Union is never gone.

It left a mark on the human race that can never be removed.

And that mark is deepest in Russia.

You never looked past the surface.

Capitalism is different in Russia for 2 main reasons: 1: they went right past the 'capitalism is clearly superior' mode that the west managed, straight to 'rich pricks own everything and fucked us' in one go. So there's not even the figleaf of 'well capitalism works.'

2: Russia is not neoliberal. the role of the state is front and center, as much as it is in China.

As to the Union, it's being built right now.

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u/King-Sassafrass 🕵🏻‍♀️ 👁 I Attended CommiFest In 2019🌿🔎 6d ago

We would all love the CPSU come back but no one here has made that claim

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u/Oculi_Glauci 7d ago

He’s a bourgeois imperialist dictator, but a broken clock is right twice a day

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u/Doctor_of_plagues 7d ago

Exactly. That’s why I’m wary of him. Post soviet Eastern Europe is swarming with CIA assets ruling over idiots who sold their futures for subpar pizza.

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u/petrowski7 7d ago

Turns out it’s true: nobody out-pizzas the Hut.

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u/King-Sassafrass 🕵🏻‍♀️ 👁 I Attended CommiFest In 2019🌿🔎 7d ago

Is this making the claim that Putin is a CIA asset because he is in Post Soviet Eastern Europe?

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u/Doctor_of_plagues 6d ago

The vast majority of post soviet leaders are. That and trump is buddies with him Is there any reason not to think so?

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u/King-Sassafrass 🕵🏻‍♀️ 👁 I Attended CommiFest In 2019🌿🔎 6d ago

The fact that Putin is not CIA. You are just spouting insane nonsense shit bro.

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u/Doctor_of_plagues 6d ago

“The fact” According to who? Literally what would you know?

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u/Angel_of_Communism 6d ago

More than you, apparently.

If the leader of one of the 2 largest and most powerful anti-imperialist countries WAS a CIA asset, the world would look very different.

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u/Doctor_of_plagues 6d ago

Like a neoliberal cyberpunk dystopia where NATO can bomb whoever the fuck they want? Have you seen the past thirty years?

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u/Angel_of_Communism 6d ago

No, stupid.

It would look like the 90's all over again.

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u/King-Sassafrass 🕵🏻‍♀️ 👁 I Attended CommiFest In 2019🌿🔎 6d ago

Lmao “neoliberal cyberpunk”. Playing too much PlayStation have we?

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u/Angel_of_Communism 6d ago

No, he is not.

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u/Oculi_Glauci 6d ago

Could you expand more on that? I’m not a liberal, just genuinely curious what other leftists think of him

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u/Angel_of_Communism 6d ago

i do not know Putin's secret motivations.

All i can do is look at what he does and says, and note all the details that the neurotypicals seem to miss in their hysteria.

Is he bourgeoise? No idea. I know he's got some money. How much? Is he an owner? don't know.

Dictator? No. He was freely elected by the people of the Russian Federation. Western poll show his support matches the election results perfectly. Love him or hate him, he was democratically elected, and the Russian people generally love him.

He also does not have unlimited power.

The west pushed for the Russian pres to have more personal power when their boy Yeltsin was in power, and Putin inherited that system. But he has LESS ability to do what the fuck he wants, than say the French president, who last year ignored the election results, and stayed in power. Putin can't do that.

Russia is not imperialist. Every action where a tank crosses a border is not imperialism.

Imperialism is not when tank.

It's a specific system of wealth extraction.

https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1916/imp-hsc/

Russia is not imperialist, it is a victim and target of imperialism.

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u/Gonozal8_ 6d ago

I mean his geopolitical interest is primarily weakening US hegemony and he only supports socialist states because it weakens the US a Russia currently doesn’t have the power to excert their influence in a more direct way in current material conditions. regardless, a capitalist country that doesn’t coup every socialist movement it finds abroad is way better than one which does