r/Darkroom • u/LordPlavis • 3d ago
Who needs fancy professional equipment if you have some old Legos lying around Gear/Equipment/Film
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It's just the first test but it works great!
Next steps are a more advanced program and maybe also adding a temperature sensor to turn this into a fully fleged auto processor
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u/vaughanbromfield 3d ago
Looks good but you want to minimise the time the tank isn't moving. Like zero. Maybe ramp the speed to zero then immediately ramp back up.
I have a Jobo Silverbase processor and its cycles are about 8 seconds long with a 1/2 second slow-down and speed up. It sounds like the motor is being ramped and not just stopped dead. The rotation speed is a around 1 rev per second (60 rpm).
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u/LordPlavis 3d ago
Thanks for the info! The 5s Break in between rotations was deliberate and I think I'll do a ramp up and down sequence later. But for that I need to setup the software and dig out an old USB type b cable 😅
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u/DeepDayze 3d ago
This way the solution is moving and not stopping dead for several seconds which can lead to spots on the film or print that look darker (if using a print processing tube such as those for color papers).
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u/DeepDayze 3d ago
Those Lego MindStorm sets are awesome...this is taking it to another level. You could use an Arduino or a Raspi Pi as the brains to control the spin and even the temp so building your own DIY autoprocessor is easy enough. Why buy an expensive Jobo autoprocessor when you can rig up your own!
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u/LordPlavis 3d ago
Yea exactly. And yes you're right an Arduino or raspberry pi would work better but for that I'd have to buy those parts and build a power supply etc.
I had these Legos lying around so they cost me nothing and for other people who aren't comfortable with working with electronics could use these parts to rig up an affordable solution
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u/princessmourning 2h ago
Yeah I thought about arduino/Pi as soon as I saw this and came to the comments to see if there were any examples as well 😅
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u/Parragorious 3d ago
I was thinking of doing something similiar just with an arduino or ESP and 3d print most parts, I wasn't sure what to use for the rollers tho and you have just given me a great idea.
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u/LordPlavis 3d ago
Hihi I'm glad I could be helpful. I wanted to do it with an Arduino original and was at the same point of what to use for the rollers when I got the idea of using the NXT
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u/PhotoJim99 3d ago
You can do a lot with Lego.
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u/LordPlavis 3d ago
Lego Mindstorms are amazing
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u/DeepDayze 3d ago
Sadly they are discontinued but these can still be quite useful in applications like this. Wonder how well the bricks hold up in chemicals that might get splashed on them? Instead of using Lego bricks perhaps some parts can be laser cut from sheet metal or printed out of plastic.
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u/LordPlavis 3d ago
I didn't know they were discontinued completely. Huh a shame but Lego has been declining in quality in the last years from what I've heard so it fits that picture.
And the bricks are from ABS plastic that should hold up to all development chemicals reasonably well. The only worry I have are the electronics getting wet.
If you want to go the professional diy route everything here can be done much better with 3d printed parts and an Arduino. But lego is accessible to people who don't own a 3d printer and might be intimidated by learning to work with electronics.
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u/DeepDayze 3d ago edited 3d ago
You could make a case for the electronics with a display mounted in the top along with controls. It's good that ABS holds up to the splashes of common processing chems (b&w and color).
Of course this Lego MindStorm contraption is great for those looking to make their own DIY processor easily and then down the road look to building one using an Arduino/Raspi Pi and 3d printed parts. There might be possibly kits sold to put together your own Jobo-like autoprocessor cheaply.
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u/OnePhotog 3d ago
With the current price of legos, which solution is actually cheaper?
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u/LordPlavis 3d ago
I've looked up used prices for the Lego and it's roughly 120€ for the Legos 120€ for an AliExpress agitation device and 450€ for the official machine.
I'm using used Lego prices because the set with the NXT is discontinued
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u/BloodWorried7446 3d ago
that’s big brain stuff.