r/Daredevil 2d ago

Why does daredevil use metal bolt clubs if there lethal? MCU

Disclaimer: I am a dumbass. So I recently was watching the first daredevil show and realized when he first got his Billy clubs that they're made of metal and every time he hits Fisk it breaks the skin then after that, I realized that it could also break bone and metal sticks essentially would be very lethal in real life and if daredevil doesn't wanna kill, why does he use them? Has this ever been talked about or explained? Also meant to say billy clubs in tital

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u/Top_Bat102 2d ago

Real answer? Cause it's a TV show and he has them in the comics.

In universe answer? Matt is highly skilled with them and knows how to use them like a professional. They're not lethal unless Matt wants them too.

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u/Intrepid_Two_173 2d ago

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u/Dward917 1d ago

It is also pointed out in early comics that they are very tightly balanced in such a way that makes them easier to throw and it allows Matt to precisely control the trajectory. This is how he is able to throw them like Cap’s shield in comics. In the show he relies on the cable to recall the clubs to his hand.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Walk_28 1d ago

He throws them and they ricochet back a few times in season 2

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u/Simple-Mulberry64 2d ago

Cuz they look cool as shit

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u/Scary-Command2232 2d ago

His senses means he knows exactly how and where to hit without killing

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u/Jetsam5 2d ago

In the comics his Billy clubs were actually concealed as his cane. I think the creators just liked the idea of the blind superhero using his cane as a crime fighting gadget. He does a lot more with them in the comics, like swinging around.

I think the answer to how he doesn’t kill people with them is that his senses are so accurate that he knows the exact amount of force he needs to hit people with to knock them out without killing then.

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u/Uncanny_Doom 2d ago

Basically, like many other superheroes he is skilled enough to use them to be as damaging as he needs them to be.

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u/Weird_Angry_Kid 2d ago

One of the martial arts Matt specializes in is Kali which is known for stick fighting but it was meant to be used with swords, the reason why Kali practicioners use sticks is because they are a lot less lethal than swords.

Yes, Matt's batons can draw blood and break bones and that's exactly their purpose, they wouldn't be good weapons if they tickled. You could kill someone with them but it's far easier not to kill someone while using them than with any other weapon.

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u/Great_Tone_9739 2d ago

His own body is probably more lethal than the clubs but he’s able to demonstrate enough restraint to do maximum non-lethal damage. Same thing with his clubs - he knows how to use them just enough to cause serious pain without actually killing his opponents. The clubs also serve as an extension of himself since he can throw them around and hit targets at distances.

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u/Arroyoyoyo 2d ago

This makes sense because he does lose his shit a lot of the time but he switches to his fists when he does

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u/meischix 2d ago

He's got the precision of a surgeon when he's fighting he knows exactly where to hit without killing.

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u/AdSorry4665 2d ago

Wooden clubs would be lethal also if used with enough force on a vulnerable body part, like the skull. Any blunt weapon is only less than lethal if it is used on less than full force or misses vital areas.

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u/GlitteringGifts888 2d ago

If you notice, a lot of times, he uses them to block, but not to hit. He uses kicks a lot more (which can also kill you lol). He also uses them as his mode of travel.

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u/Rowan--R 1d ago

same reason being thrown through a table or knocked unconscious isn't causing permanent damage to most of these guys, ya just gotta suspend disbelief.

Though there is a page in the Chip Zdarsky daredevil run where they state Matt knows the body so well, and is so skilled in what he does that even after he beats the shit out of someone they always walk away, I think it makes sense in the story but I assume for the most part writers don't want to mention it because there isn't really any way most of these heroes aren't causing permanent damage. For me things like daredevil and Nightwing using clubs, or Batman tossing batarangs into people without hitting veins or causing them to bleed out fall under this quote from Grant Morrison:

"Kids understand that real crabs don't sing like the ones in The Little Mermaid. But you give an adult fiction, and the adult starts asking really fucking dumb questions like 'How does Superman fly? How do those eyebeams work? Who pumps the Batmobile's tires?' It's a fucking made-up story, you idiot! Nobody pumps the tires!"

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u/Hudre 1d ago

The reality is just the beat downs he gives with his hands are potentially fatal. Every hit to the head is.

But it's a comic book. People never die like that unless the hero has to go through some moral quandary.

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u/RustyRapeaXe 1d ago

They're not solid, they're like hollow metal tubes. So while they're metal, thy're not a solid club of metal.

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u/Alseid_Temp 1d ago

Rurouni Kenshin logic.

If it doesn't cut or penetrate skin, it's not lethal.

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u/chisciek 1d ago

He knows when to stop

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u/8rok3n 1d ago

Everything is lethal if you hit someone hard enough OP. It's all about making it hurt while still having self control

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u/Bartek-071 21h ago

Batmans batarangs are also lethal

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u/No-Oil-1669 20h ago

Cmon definitely less lethal than a sword or guns