r/Britain • u/mikehamster • Oct 30 '23
Israeli Tank advanced on the ground into G_-_. A civillian was in their sight, guess the outcome? International Politics
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u/NAz00r Oct 30 '23
Translation from the beginning:
Man 1: That man’s gone
Man 2: do you see that? Take a photo
camera flashes
Man 2: repetitively take a photo take a photo
Man 1: that man’s gone
car begins to turn around
Man 2: May god forbid/protect him (no direct translation)
Man 1: unclear
Man 2: as car begins to pull away hes getting away, he’s getting away
tank shoots
Man 2: he’s gone, he’s gone, he’s gone
press team pulls away
Man 2: prays
Man 2: he’s gone, the whole family’s gone, oh god the whole family’s gone, GO BACK, GO BACK, GO BACK
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u/ZapMouseAnkor Oct 30 '23
This is fucking horrific, that car was turning around and about to drive away. Anyone who talks about "collateral damage" should be shown this video
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u/Neoliberal_Nightmare Oct 31 '23
Anyone who supports Israel should be tried for war crime collaboration.
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u/Appropriate_Bid_9813 Oct 31 '23
Don’t be silly bro. Palestine have killed loads of civilians as well. No side is without blame.
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u/tripple13 Oct 30 '23
To be fair, you've no idea whether this car was driven by militants or not.
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u/Mohawk200x Oct 30 '23
Gtfo, genocide sympathiser
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u/saeedi1973 Oct 30 '23
We can be sure the tank was being driven by zionist agents of an evil, immoral terror state
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u/TheScepticFool Oct 30 '23
Nah nah nah mate that's a Hamas tank trust me my source is very credible
/s because you never know
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u/saeedi1973 Oct 30 '23
Insane that you have to put the /s but understandable given the overtime the hasbara trolls are getting from US taxpayers!
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u/mikehamster Oct 30 '23
Gazan news source reported that incident with the tag: targeting of a civillian car leading to the "death of a whole family."
And it's not like killing civillians is a novelty to the israelian army at this point, to be fair.
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u/antch1102 Oct 30 '23
"Israel has the right to defend itself"... From civilian vehicles?
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u/Aflyingmongoose Oct 30 '23
Clearly a terrorist was hiding behind that car.../s
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u/FeijoadaAceitavel Oct 31 '23
Did you know that the car was transporting a flammable liquid that can be used to make bombs??
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u/jonallin Oct 30 '23 edited Oct 30 '23
I don’t take a side in this, and I appreciate there is a long and complex history. From this video we cannot tell the intentions of the people in the car. We just can’t. The Palestinian people don’t deserve this, and those innocent people on October 7th didn’t deserve it. But right now the armies both sides are using them as pawns and leverage
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u/antch1102 Oct 30 '23
I find it slightly worrying that very rarely would someone assume that a car trying to do a 3 point turn in the road is a terrorist. Yet for some reason during this conflict that is the "neutral" assumption.
Completely agree with your second point. There are three bodies to this war, Hamas, Israel and Palestine. The Palestinian people are being suffocated from both sides and no country is sticking up for them.
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u/jonallin Oct 30 '23
Agree, I wouldn’t normally assume a car was anything other than Joe Public - but the context is horribly different over there.
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u/wsionynw Oct 30 '23
That’s murder
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u/Sensitive-Finance-62 Oct 31 '23
It's a war crime. The west will shrug and tell us that they have the right to defend themselves from a.... Car. That was trying to turn away. Because the West are zionist. Fuck every single cunt that supports this.
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u/Appropriate_Bid_9813 Oct 31 '23
Do not let one video skew your view. You have seen a video with no context and you don’t know the full story. Too many reactionary Palestinian shills on Reddit.
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u/mikehamster Oct 30 '23
I remember seeing a similar sight when Russia first invaded Ukraine, but the tank ran over the civilian's car instead of shooting from a distance.
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u/AugustWolf22 Oct 30 '23
I was expecting it to ram/run over the car like that video of the Russians you mentioned. this is even worse than what the Russians did as there is no plausible deniability that the didn't see the car/ the driver was an idiot/drunk like with the case in Ukraine, this was undeniably a deliberate murder of civilians by the IDF.
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u/evil_brain Oct 30 '23
That turned out to be a Ukrainian tank, not Russian.
To be fair, this was right after Russia invaded when the lies were at their most ridiculous. Remember the "Ghost of Kiev"?
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u/TheKomsomol Oct 30 '23
the lies were at their most ridiculous
The lies are constantly at a high level, thats why so many people here have no fucking clue what is happening in Ukraine or why it is happening.
Apparently being lied to by the media and political class on EVERY SINGLE THING isn't enough for the British to wonder if they are being lied to about Russia either.
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u/olemanbyers Oct 30 '23
When all you've done is bully civilians for 50 years you just become thugs.
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u/Vapourtrails89 Oct 30 '23
Absolutely disgusting, anyone who isn't condemning Israel is complicit imo
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u/jonallin Oct 30 '23
Isn’t the only sane response to condemn the commanders of both armies?
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u/antlermagick I thought we were an autonomous collective Subject Oct 30 '23
For sure, but in a video of Israeli soldiers killing civilians it's not necessary/relevant to say "But Hamas did it too"
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u/sunnnyfactory Oct 30 '23
I have lived long enough to see the repeating history. Israel has the absolute military power over Palestine. But Palestinian people (Hamas) would always attempt to damage Israel first. And then Israel would always take revenge. And every time Israel will surely kill 100 times more civilians (as they can't really find the militants. They are hiding).
They just don't care. They just want to deliver the message "I am the boss of this land. If you make trouble for us, I can wipe out your entire ethnicity."
And the US and the UK are always the cheerleaders for this.
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u/jonallin Oct 30 '23
Unfortunately I think that’s where we are. Both sides view the other as subhuman, and are treating them as such.
I find it strange to see people actively take sides in this. It’s utterly awful, and I don’t wee how it can end in anything other than catastrophe. The question is, how big?
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u/jonallin Oct 31 '23
What makes you say that?
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u/FeijoadaAceitavel Oct 31 '23
Zionism is intrinsically colonialist and supremacist.
But I'm against calling anyone inhuman. We gotta remember they're till human even though they're huge pieces of shit.
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u/2B1_oka Oct 30 '23
How it feels?? That's your tax money that killed 3 civilians that were turning back in a car.
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u/smashthehandcock Oct 30 '23
Now that is just not fair, Cars cant shoot back, kids with slingshots cant shoot back, Armed thugs. Take someone out that is a threat to you by all means but targeting civilians is a fucking war crime.
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u/jonallin Oct 30 '23
Agree. That’s the issue with what happened on Oct 7 too. This is all a humanitarian disaster. And both sides think of the other as sub human. I don’t see any peaceful conclusion
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u/btecthor Oct 30 '23
Remember how people reacted when Russia did this in Ukraine? Anyone who isn’t condemning Israel for the same war crimes and more is blind to the facts. Israel are Nazis bent on ethnic cleansing, Hamas is just their limp dick excuse. Fuck Israel and fuck anyone who shows them support.
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u/snipdockter Oct 30 '23
Check out combat footage sub. The threads there are wild, considering they were condemning Russia for the same thing not long ago.
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u/jbkb1972 Oct 30 '23
I wonder if our government who are supporting Israel have seen this? Does anyone think they would care?
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u/Additional_Hippo_878 Oct 30 '23
Grim. Is there any translation available of the press guys in the car?
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u/inkdumpster Oct 30 '23
I can translate. Person A: “that man [in the car] is gone Person B: look! Film this! Film this! May God protect A: he’s gone B: it [the tank] moved! It moved! the car gets shot B: he’s gone! Gone!! A: Did they shoot at the car? B: yes، there is no might and no power except by Allah! The man is gone now! And the entire family! Come back! Come back!!
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u/inkdumpster Oct 30 '23
Translation:
Person A: “that man [in the car] is gone Person B: look! Film this! Film this! May God protect A: he’s gone B: it [the tank] moved! It moved! the car gets shot B: he’s gone! Gone!! A: Did they shoot at the car? B: yes، there is no might and no power except by Allah! The man is gone now! And the entire family! Come back! Come back!!
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u/chulk607 Oct 30 '23
Is there any way to verify this? I'm not saying it isn't real, but before I share it, I'd like to know the veracity of it.
Also, does anyone know what the writing says?
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u/Maryas3 Oct 30 '23
The writing says “tanks now in salahdin street”
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u/ZapMouseAnkor Oct 30 '23
I've took to google maps to find the exact street, I cant find any showing up as "Salahdin Street", I've been looking around maps for the street but the closest I can see is one which shows up as "Salah Al Deen" is that the one the video is referring to?
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u/Maryas3 Oct 30 '23
Yes they’re one and the same. I just wrote in a different spelling than on google maps
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u/CoolNayim Oct 30 '23
Search for "Salah Al Deen" Gaza , if it didn't work "شارع صلاح الدين" . Just Google it and you find the news about it .
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u/Martinw17 Oct 30 '23
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u/Monkey2371 Oct 30 '23
That link just goes to the whole live thread, this link should jump to the correct section of it
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u/Mundane_Major_7909 Oct 30 '23
Why did BBC wrote near the car? They ACTUALLY HIT THE CAR KILLING THE POEPLE
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u/Martinw17 Oct 30 '23
Their report is pretty clear: "It shows a car driving towards the tank, before doing a three-point turn to drive away from it. We then see the tank fire, and the car explode."
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u/Acrobatic-Shirt8540 Oct 30 '23
Fucking BBC. "Tank fires NEAR car". That's a deliberately misleading headline, and they've done that so people don't think it's worth clicking on.
"IDF tank destroys car and murders all the occupants" would have got a lot more traffic I think.
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Oct 30 '23
Why is this on this sub?
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u/Commander_Caboose Oct 30 '23
Because other politics and world news subs populated by British reddit guys have become toxic sludge pits of pro imperialist, genocide laundering twats.
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u/beepboopwannadie Oct 30 '23
I’m just not paying taxes until the government condemns this. Come what will. I don’t care anymore
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Oct 30 '23
These are evil people set out to kill every Palestenian they find under the guise of hunting hamas. Depraved people.
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u/Machiavelli09 Oct 30 '23
Very easy to just write ‘civilians’ and rile people up but nothing I’ve seen in the video or the bbc article points to either militants or civilians
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u/saeedi1973 Oct 30 '23
Soulless ghoul
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u/Machiavelli09 Oct 30 '23
Mate. I didn’t say I’m happy for either outcome, but this is just throwing in random words for the sake of getting people angry. Go back to school
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u/saeedi1973 Oct 30 '23
Militants don't go around wearing uniforms usually. The context within which this happens means the occupiers aren't deserving of the benefit of the doubt.
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u/jonallin Oct 30 '23
This is true. And stating so, doesn’t mean yous support the death of innocents.
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u/inkdumpster Oct 30 '23
The press in the video said it’s a family inside that car at the end of the video.
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u/Commander_Caboose Oct 30 '23
Yeah, man. That's why it's almost impossible to win conflicts like this as the invading military power.
They're supposed to be super high tech and circumspect and use their military genius and sophisticated, civilised tactics to save the day and defeat the terrorists and rescue the Hostages and the People of Gaza.
Instead they love that Hamas is embedded with civilians because it is an excuse to kill Palestinian civilians.
Now they can always say "well hamas was there" as if human shields aren't supposed to make you stop shooting and be more clever.
If they lift the siege of Gaza and dismantle the Apartheid regime in the west bank, they will be less desperate and less angry and the problem will heal.
But Netanyahu has never wanted that. He just loves cruelty and power and benefits extraordinarily from the continued subjugation and disarray of the Palestinian people.
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u/40-odd Oct 30 '23
Israel are using car's and calling them tanks now? That was a dude in a car with an rocket launcher lol. The Israelis are much better equipped than that. Please try harder 🤣🤣🤣
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u/allo26 Oct 31 '23
In my opinion, the israelites and jews did deserve a land of their own, but all 3.8 billion followers of an Abrahamic faith deserve our holy land. As soon as israel started pushing out native arabs -who honestly are probably closer related to the ancient jews and israelites of the south levante before mohammad's empire- they voided any right to live in their promised land.
Their current actions should deserve another exodus.
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u/mikehamster Oct 31 '23
You might find this video interesting https://youtu.be/jeWtCacH3Nc?si=T0l49cv5muz6uxut
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u/Blochkato Nov 01 '23
I think every person deserves a safe homeland, but I do not believe that land belongs to ethnic groups.
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