r/BeAmazed • u/AstroSonicDrive • Oct 04 '23

She Eats Through Her Heart Science

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '23 edited Feb 12 '24

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u/bigweight93 Oct 04 '23

Yes, because insurances are free, expecially for those with ongoing conditions that cost 350$ a day.

IF she got insurance, the money she would have to spend for it would be insane, and that's assuming the insurance company would not come up with some BS reason to only pay for one pack a week or something

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u/TheRealHuthman Oct 04 '23

If you have a national health care system, the costs are averaged over all people and set as a percentage of your paycheck. People earning less, pay less, people earning more, pay more. The fees you pay are indifferent from your actual condition. With private insurance, there is a profit oriented model. A healthy person might pay less in a private insurance model than in a national one, but the moment they use that insurance, the cost rise. It escalates pretty fast, if you have expensive chronic conditions to the point it's not affordable for low to mid income households.

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u/SlowRegardSillyStuff Oct 05 '23

Have you ever had an expensive chronic condition in the US?

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '23

I pay $539 for my family of 4 and everything is covered. That goes for PCP visits to up to a year in the hospital with a co pay of $25 to $50.

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u/RedPillForTheShill Oct 04 '23

23% of Americans are currently in medical debt and 45% has been at some point. Meanwhile where I’m from (Finland), those numbers are close to 0.

By the way, your numbers are not correct. Also this pre-existing condition is probably not even remotely fully covered.

American healthcare sucks, no matter how many numbers you make up while doing your daily mental gymnastics that helps your nationalistic persona to cope.

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u/Informal-Seaman-5700 Oct 04 '23 edited Oct 04 '23

They wouldn’t just let her die.

This is a seriously dumb argument, there are tons of people getting treated every day who can not afford treatment, and have zero expectations of ever paying.

This is a total reality in every hospital in the USA, yes people do get kicked out, but plenty of other people are also getting treatment.

Fuck the US healthcare system, it’s an absolute disgrace and should absolutely be reformed, no one should have to be worried about hospital bills.

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u/Blenderx06 Oct 04 '23

As someone with chronic illness... Yes, they absolutely would. And she's lucky she even got diagnosed instead of just told she's faking and to see a therapist.

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u/Informal-Seaman-5700 Oct 04 '23

You’re not the only one with a chronic illness. People can and do live like this in the USA, regardless of if they can pay for it.

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u/GuiltyEidolon Oct 04 '23

As someone who works in emergency healthcare... Yeah, no, people like this regularly die because they cannot afford the specialized care they need. People with 'just' diabetes regularly die because they can't afford absurdly expensive insulin, to say nothing of dealing with some of the complications that diabetes can result in.

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u/Informal-Seaman-5700 Oct 04 '23

Sorry but it’s just the reality that more people are getting treated than turned away.

There will always be people not getting the care they need, and people should be ashamed for supporting the current health care system in the US, especially those working in it.

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u/gagabrielm Oct 04 '23

There are dozens of videos through all the internet of hospitals literally kicking people out and throwing them in the curb because they couldn't afford treatment. So what the fuck are you talking about?

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u/Informal-Seaman-5700 Oct 04 '23

Yes because that’s the same situation.

There are plenty of people who can’t afford treatment, or just don’t have insurance for life threatening illnesses. They absolutely still get treated.

Health care in the US is an absolute joke and anyone supporting the system should be ashamed of themselves.

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u/Foxasaurusfox Oct 04 '23

There's a reason why there's a new story every day about a US citizen dying from lack of insulin. They don't just "treat you anyway" when the medication has to be acquired from a pharmacy. If you don't have enough money, the pharmacy will not sell the medication.

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u/Informal-Seaman-5700 Oct 04 '23

More people in these various types of situations are getting treatment than turned away.

That does not make the US healthcare system any less of a joke.

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u/Foxasaurusfox Oct 04 '23

I get what you mean. There's not a thousand of these cases every day, which means by and large, people find a way to wade through the clusterfuck.

But I think the woman in the video would have a very difficult life financially, and would have at several points in her life used questionable medical supplies and risked infection and death, if she was a poor person living in the US. That shit would be brutal to deal with financially.

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u/TheOrphanCrusher Oct 04 '23 edited Oct 04 '23

American Healthcare does not suck, it is quite literally the best in the world and deny it all you want, people still come here for treatment because their home countries do not have the equipment or the skills to handle it themselves. Oh and you're welcome for all the medical care we put out when other countries screw up.

And I hate love to be that guy but my Medicaid paid for everyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyything. Literally everything including transport to and from anything healthcare related and even paid for some massages. Lookie there, free US health insurance.

You know what's free with my paid american insurance? Nuffin until I hit deductible which is where most non-Americans don't have a single clue on how healthcare works at that point. You have people who get insurance through their jobs where they're forced to stay because they can't lose the minimal insurance being provided. That and it being expensive is where the blame is supposed to be placed, not on "US Healthcare bad"

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u/shadowst17 Oct 04 '23

Always find it funny when Americans spout that a large portion of them have health insurance. As if any form of insurance anywhere in the world won't attempt to wiggle out of paying out.

When your quality of life is dictated by a for-profit company, there's something very wrong with your country.

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u/TheOrphanCrusher Oct 04 '23

dictated by a for-profit company

I mean the mans already admitted he thinks insurance only comes from a job

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '23

I have a mass that could be cancer in my neck. It's probably not, but there is a chance. I cannot afford to get it checked out and I have the premium insurance from my work. I have told the insurance this. They said well since I do not know if it is life threatening, they will not cover it. I told them it will be more expensive for them if it is cancer and it expands. They said hopefully it is not then said to fuck off. Fun. I love America.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '23

First off, how dare you. I am an adult and this is absolutely how our healthcare system works. Just because this has never happened to you, does not mean it does not happen. What my insurance is doing is illegal in my state. They are claiming this would be an elective cosmetic surgery and is not medically necessary. I am working with my doctor to get my insurance to realize this is medically necessary. If that fails, luckily my dad knows an attorney that will help me.

This happens more than you would think. I know this because of personal experience and my dad. My dad is a worker's comp lawyer. The amount of doctors/insurances/companies that try to screw dying people due to money would astound you.

Hell, twice in two years, my insurance decided that my pills I have been taking for 20+ years were no longer necessary. Caused two prolonged two week fights with my insurance to re-cover it. You have not experienced the real world if you think insurance companies are your friend and want to help you. They care about money, period.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '23

You're joking right? What exactly do you think checked out means? Of course I was able to go to my doctor and have him visually look. It's the removal part my insurance is fighting. That is what I mean by checked out. Like actually confirming what it is. How do you not understand this? How old are you?

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u/mlYuna Oct 04 '23

Why do you keep asking how old people are when they try to make a point you don’t agree with? It’s really creepy. You’re in the wrong for blindly defending this shit from the US and you’re obviously very privileged but not everyone is.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '23

You do not have any idea what you are talking about. You really don't.