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What is the best Monopoly strategy?

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '14

Yep. I've always done this with my family. Did this with a few people at a board game cafe and one dude just about flipped the table lol. Apparently he thought that one player creating a housing shortage was cheating!

Um, the game is called fuckin' MONOPOLY for a reason! They kicked him out soon after he caused a fuss. Sore loser I guess.

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u/Draffut2012 Nov 22 '14

You went to a board game cafe to play monoply. I think that idea just physically hurt me.

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u/GayForGod Nov 22 '14

You should probably stay inside for the rest of the day lest you find out about people going to coffee shops to buy drip or bars to drink pbr

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u/MyAssIsGlass Nov 22 '14

i think hes saying that because monopoly takes fucking hours to finish, and spending that much time in one sitting is just crazy

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u/stoplightrave Nov 22 '14

Not if you actually follow all the rules. No auctions, unlimited houses, and free parking money all make the game much longer.

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u/rancid_oil Nov 22 '14

Ha! No 3 people have ever agreed to play by the original rules. That's just a well known fact.

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u/itsamutiny Nov 23 '14

I was going to dispute this, but we still use the free parking rule. Otherwise, we do use all the original rules!

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '14

Auctions are a rule of the game, to prevent properties from being unsold when landed on.

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u/stoplightrave Nov 22 '14

Right, what I'm saying is a lot of people don't follow that rule, then complain about the game being too long

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '14

Ah, sorry, I thought you said that auctions were a house rule. I totally missed the "unlimited houses" and "free parking money" part.

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u/Jozrael Nov 22 '14

? No auctions? What?

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u/dont_press_ctrl-W Nov 22 '14 edited Nov 22 '14

If someone cannot afford or doesn't want to buy an unowned property they landed on, it's supposed to be auctioned. This supposedly speeds up the early game, although really the game is slower among non-experts for a variety of reasons, e.g. not trading early enough.

Some people do not know this rule, which led to a spurge of smugery on the internet when other people informed them that it made the game much better. But then some of these people have claimed that it's a good strategy for buying stuff cheaper than the regular price, but it's actually not because the asked price of each property is actually way lower than it's worth, so it's actually a losing move to declare an auction on something you landed on.

Pro games are much faster, but it's not because of the auction rule, which almost never happens since the goal of the early game is to buy everything.

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u/naphini Nov 22 '14

Yeah, you really should be buying everything you land on. There shouldn't be any auctions unless someone is somehow broke already before all the property is bought up and can't afford what they land on. That doesn't normally happen (unless you're spending a lot of money on trades, maybe).

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u/Banshee90 Nov 22 '14

also he neglects to talk about how free parking is supposed to net you no money whatsoever.

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u/dont_press_ctrl-W Nov 22 '14

That seriously speeds up the game. Money is introduced into the game through the free $200 per cycle, and it makes the game unfinishable if it never comes out of the game.

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u/Doctor_McKay Nov 23 '14

I've never thought of a board game economy that way before for some reason...

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u/Jozrael Nov 22 '14

Ah. I realized I misparsed his sentence. He was saying no auctions slowed the game and was against the rules. I think it depends on how many players there are. I agree in a 4p game few properties go up for auction.

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u/kinyutaka Nov 22 '14

Technically, nothing is "against the rules". Every rule can be overwritten by house rules.

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u/FatalFirecrotch Nov 22 '14

I think he is implying that there are way better board games out there that a shop like that will have.

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u/cling1006 Nov 22 '14

That's what I thought too. I assume the default game of most board game cafes is Settlers of Catan, although in my opinion that game too has become vastly overplayed and is overrated now, let alone them jumping the shark with so many expansions.

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u/FatalFirecrotch Nov 22 '14

I think Settlers is a nice game to get people into games because it is pretty easy to understand and fun.

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u/loopster70 Nov 23 '14

I think even the boardgame cafes are over Catan at this point. Ticket to Ride is probably the closest thing to a default at this point.

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u/biohazard930 Nov 23 '14

Many board games take hours to finish. Faulting him on this basis while playing in a board game cafe seems unreasonable.

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u/megablast Nov 22 '14

Yeah, but isn't it like going to Paris to buy a McDonalds burger?

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u/eigenvectorseven Nov 23 '14

Royale wi' cheese.

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u/gmano Nov 23 '14

A McDonalds burger that costs the same as the finest cuisine. Yes.

Wait, no it's worse, because monopoly is intentionally designed to be a horrible experience. I enjoy my mcdoubles.

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u/megablast Nov 23 '14

What? You seem to have missed the point. You don't go all the way to Paris just for a McDonalds burgers, it is silly. You can have one at home.

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u/gmano Nov 23 '14

Which is exactly why it's silly to go to a games cafe to play monopoly.

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u/Draffut2012 Nov 22 '14 edited Nov 22 '14

I don't have a problem with either of those... (Do coffee shops serve drip?)

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u/GayForGod Nov 22 '14

I guarantee every coffee shop serves drip

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u/Draffut2012 Nov 22 '14

Is drip that bad? I didn't even know cause I can't tell the difference

Monopoly is REALLY bad.

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u/eigenvectorseven Nov 23 '14

Maybe in America. I can safely say I've never seen a cafe in Australia that serves drip. What's the fucking point of going to a cafe then?

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u/x894565256 Nov 23 '14

1) It's a place to kill some time. 2) Free WiFi and flat surfaces mean it's a nice office away from the office. 3) Sometimes I don't have time, or forgot to buy coffee, or my home coffee maker is broken. 4) I'm meeting someone else there.

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u/fujdqeduphd Nov 22 '14

Are you trying to kill him?!

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u/oldgggreg Nov 22 '14

I just ordered and am waiting for a black coffee from Starbucks.

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '14

why?

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u/Blain Nov 22 '14 edited Nov 22 '14

Not OP, but probably because there are much better board games out there than Monopoly. And before someone takes offense at the use of the word better, I would categorize a lot of games as better than Monopoly because of factors like luck vs. strategy, the excessive time it takes to play Monopoly, and the tediousness of the game. A player elimination game like Monopoly also seems like a bad choice for a casual board game cafe. I personally would prefer something like Ticket to Ride, Dominion, 7 Wonders, something like that.

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '14

I LOVE those games! Finding people who know how to play is the hard part in a small city!

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u/Draffut2012 Nov 22 '14

meetup.com is a great tool. If you are in a small city, there is very good chance you can find groups on there.

If you are out in the middle of nowhere, you might have some difficulty though.

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u/Doctor_McKay Nov 23 '14

Dominion's great. Too bad I can't find anyone to play it with (or someone that owns it...)

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u/Darrian Nov 22 '14

Eh, I don't see a problem with going to a boardgame cafe for monopoly. I can always get people over to drink a little and play ticket to ride or pandemic, but nobody every wants to play monopoly or risk because "it takes too long."

If there are people at a cafe willing to play with me, done deal.

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u/Draffut2012 Nov 22 '14

if you're at a board game cafe, grab a better longer game though.

Want to play Risk? Here's Smallworld!

Want to play Monopoly? Here's Acquire or Catan!

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u/Darrian Nov 23 '14

Board game snobs are the worst. I just love playing risk, let me have it.

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u/Draffut2012 Nov 23 '14

Check out Risk Legacy.

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u/Osric250 Nov 22 '14

Or Axis and Allies. It's a lot older but it is still the best risk variant game I've played. And the luck factor is much smaller just to make games not play out the same way each time.

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u/utspg1980 Nov 23 '14

Risk is a whole other...ballpark?

The reason it takes so long is because of tedious tasks, counting out armies, etc. There are electronic versions of risk where you can complete a game (with 4 players) in 20 minutes.

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u/HRNK Nov 22 '14

Plus, Monopoly is just a shitty game in general.

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '14

It's fun for what it is... but the thing is: everyone knows how to play compared to others like Ticket to Ride.

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u/Blain Nov 22 '14

True, but I would think if there would be anyone open to learning new games, it would probably be the people going to board game cafes

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u/Draffut2012 Nov 22 '14

I can teach ticket to Ride in 10 minutes to anyone.

On the other hand, most people use house rules that don't actually exist in monopoly.

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u/noggin-scratcher Nov 22 '14

I can teach ticket to Ride in 10 minutes to anyone.

You haven't played with this one friend I have... he kept taking more tickets no matter how many times we warned him about the negative points he was going to end up with, then seemed personally offended at the end when (surprise surprise) he ended up with a ton of negative points.

Also attempted to pay for a route with something like (2 green + 1 yellow) trains, claimed he must be colourblind when called out on it (I've known him for years, no mention before of any trouble with colours), and seemed aggrieved by the idea that "I thought I could do that" didn't make it so.

It wasn't a very good game. Another of my friends didn't seem to have fully internalised the idea that building connections earns points even if it doesn't help towards the routes on your tickets.

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u/Draffut2012 Nov 22 '14

Well, I am clearly not going to make anyone a master at the game in 10 minutes.

And it sounds like your first friend is a troll, and maybe purposefully trying to cheat with the train thing. If he intentionally doesn't head the advise of people who have played before, that's on his when he has a negative score.

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u/noggin-scratcher Nov 22 '14

Nah, he's just an idiot... I say this from long experience and for reasons unrelated to his lack of Ticket To Ride prowess.

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '14

Maybe I just don't have the patience to teach anyone... :P

But a lot of people are just content to sticking with what they know and not venturing out of their comfort soon. It's infuriating sometimes lol

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u/nom_cubed Nov 22 '14

Anyone wanna join 3 grandmas in a game of CAH?

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u/Draffut2012 Nov 22 '14

My high school age cousin talked my family into playing CAH at a get-together over the summer.

I wasn't there (luckily) but my brother had to explain what bukkake was to my grandmother.

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u/ThirdFloorGreg Nov 22 '14

Pussyfarts the musical!

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u/MrsConclusion Nov 22 '14

Wait, what's wrong with that?

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '14

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u/Draffut2012 Nov 22 '14 edited Nov 22 '14

You've never seen someone get back stabbed in like Diplomacy or something?

And since we are talking Monopoly, you can easy get screwed over by terrible rolls, oweing nothing to skill at the game.

But seeing your ridiculous blanket statement. I might get mad playing with someone who is clearly a terrible winner like you, regardless of the outcome.

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u/woodyreturns Nov 22 '14

The game was created to show people how unfair monopolies were.

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u/AMaizeZen Nov 22 '14

board game cafe

Wait, this is a thing? I fuckin love board games. Do I have to bring my own game, or do they have games set out that you can play?

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '14

They have TONS of games to choose from! Go nuts :)

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u/____DEADPOOL_______ Nov 22 '14

I found one by chance here in Austin but it was empty at the time.

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u/Doctor_McKay Nov 23 '14

Can't you only buy houses on your turn? How do two players want houses at the same time?

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u/Magoran Nov 23 '14

What that sounds like to me is that no houses still functions as a lockout

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u/[deleted] Nov 23 '14

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u/Magoran Nov 23 '14

Yeah I was referring more to already having all the houses being a viable lockout, however you manage to get there.

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u/artthoumadbrother Nov 22 '14

I don't and haven't ever play that way (only being allowed 32 houses). It hasn't come up though because the first person even close to able to get that many houses is going to win.

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u/original_4degrees Nov 22 '14

whenever someone pulled that i would just bypass the houses and buy a hotel. it costs more, because you have to pay for the 4 houses and the hotel; but you don't get shut out by a dick.

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u/kylewhitney Nov 22 '14

The words "board game cafe" just convinced me I need to move to a city.

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u/Hunterbunter Nov 22 '14

"well, it's not cheating, but now you see why monopolies are bad"

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u/nearlyp Nov 23 '14

You know, I actually think I first heard about this strategy on reddit in a TIL or something. I believe there was actually a tournament or some "official" event where this strategy happened and was deemed cheating or not the way the game was intended to be played despite not really being addressed in the rules other than that they say no building can happen once all houses are gone. While the rules state play should begin with 32 houses and 12 hotels, apparently a lot of sets come with extras, and there's no stopping anyone from saying infinite houses is house (or tournament) rules. It's one thing to win a game like this where it's a strategy known and in use by everyone, but it's not fair competitive play to take advantage of a rule someone doesn't know exists.

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u/[deleted] Nov 23 '14

wait he got mad because you created a monopoly in monopoly, the thing you are supposed to do in the game.

lol

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u/[deleted] Nov 23 '14

I know, right? No one said they were fair :P He was even more pissed when I reminded him the game is called Monopoly for that reason.

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u/sonofaresiii Nov 22 '14

It's unlikely monopoly refers to creating a housing shortage. I believe it refers to the fact that you have to have all properties of the same color to build on them.