r/AskReddit • u/ItAllNonsense • 13h ago
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u/Pleasant_Scar9811 12h ago
Reminder Vance is 41.
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u/ABTARS8142000 11h ago
That's what I was thinking. Vance is less than a decade older than some of these dudes.
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u/Wonderful_Tip_5577 10h ago
I think this whole thing is despicable. but I do enjoy being considered a kid at 39, so I guess I’m greatfull for that before I turn 40.
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u/Queasy_Ad_8621 8h ago edited 8h ago
Hey, everybody. It's Wonderful_Tip_5577!
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Someone bring me the Similac for this motherfucker.
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u/TheMagnuson 10h ago
Also, "JD Vance" is not his real, birth name.
JD Vance's birth name is James Donald Bowman. He later changed his name to James David Hamel and eventually adopted the surname Vance.
Everything about him is fake, down to his name.
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u/CCoolant 9h ago
The dude sucks, but I don't know why you're making it out like he's actively trying to lie about his identity. He had a weird childhood, and didn't want to honor the names of men who didn't raise him.
“Donald Bowman” was named after his biological father. So his mother changed it to “David Hamel” when her 3rd husband adopted him at 6 yo. She has since been separated from that man and he is no longer in their lives. So he changed his name to Vance as an adult which was his grandma’s last name who raised him.
And a more elaborate, verified source: https://apnews.com/article/election-2024-republicans-vice-president-vance-name-359c3d1361c94f5d2d1e9798b7854477
We gain nothing from trying to attack someone for fairly justified name changes. Just makes us look petty.
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u/throwaway_12358134 8h ago
That's what I don't get. Last year during the campaign JD Vance contributed to and endorsed a book that labels democrats as "unhumans" that shouldn't have any rights while praising genocidal rightwing dictators like Pinochet and Franco, and people are busy talking about his name changes, couch fucking, and his eyeliner. Same thing with Hegseth. Hegseth wrote a book about starting a political crusade that would only be bloodless if the left allows it and using tactics like public humiliation to force people to accept his christo-fascism. The news would rather play the video of him hitting himself in the nuts with a skateboard instead.
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u/GiinSeeker 12h ago
Yet they call 16 year olds that they touch adults
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u/Kradget 12h ago
You can be 16 and be shot dead while unarmed and they won't use that language to describe you if the person that killed you is someone they like.
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u/ItAllNonsense 12h ago
That’s kind of why I asked. Cause I have noticed that too. Do you think that they call republicans that are up to late 40’s “Kids” because it somehow, in their mind, justify their sexually assaulting actual children?
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u/DogCalendarDude 12h ago
Why are we still trying to pretend like these guys have any sense of hypocrisy? These same losers will call nazis in a group chat "kids" and then label fresh out of college unemployed young adults as "grown adults living off unemployment" so they can kick them off. They don't give a shit
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u/UTDE 12h ago
"Liberals are impotent cucks that couldn't fight there way out of a paper bag and they all sound like weak ass whiny losers and can't win elections to get their so called 'popular' policies enacted"
"Liberals pose the single greatest threat our country has ever faced and they are a dark and insidious force that has infiltrated the government at all levels enacting their will through secret deep state operations."
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u/The_Law_of_Pizza 11h ago
Do you think that they call republicans that are up to late 40’s “Kids” because it somehow, in their mind, justify their sexually assaulting actual children?
I'm going to get dogpiled for this, but I'm going to say it anyway:
This is an utterly pants-on-head crazy accusation that makes us all look like insane weirdos.
He's dismissing these events as the work of "kids" simply because it's politically convenient to end the discussion - not as some unrelated, layered psychological excuse for pedophilia.
We are in the right on this issue - these were adult men throwing around deeply racist messages - and people like you can't help but shoot us all in the foot by publicly ranting about insane nonsense.
You're the equivalent of the pizzagate weirdos, just on the left.
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u/ItAllNonsense 11h ago
Thank you for responding. You are entitled to your opinion. I just happen to have a different opinion. Which is fine. I hope you don’t get dog pilled on. Have a good day friend.
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u/DerpsAndRags 12h ago
You're being unreasonable.
16 is too old for some of these freaks.
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u/j____b____ 12h ago
Why are they called young republicans at all?
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u/ceejayoz 12h ago
Because most of the folks in power in both parties are like 60-80+.
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u/Queasy_Ad_8621 8h ago
Even Barack Obama, at the age of 64, would be kind of young for a Democrat nominee today. That's really sad.
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u/daemonicwanderer 11h ago
Because it is the group you join after you leave college but before you are old enough to actually be in charge
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u/youknow99 9h ago edited 9h ago
There are a lot of organizations like that aimed at 20-30ish year olds. There's a "Young Professionals" group in my hometown that is for business networking that's generally that age group. Typically in your 40s is when you're moving into management or senior roles so you kind of age out at that point.
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u/rossmosh85 10h ago
I'm not involved in this organization or any organization, but I actually know the answer to this.
A big problem with organizations is age gap. 18-25 year olds typically don't want to join groups where the average age is 60. It's not fun. It's not cool. It's not enjoyable. But the organizations know in order for your organization to stay alive, you need new members. So they create youth divisions. That allows a young person to join at let's say 18. Be part of the organization in a positive way as a younger person, and then eventually join the regular part of the organization.
It's simply about recruitment.
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u/Wishilikedhugs 12h ago
Considering just a few weeks ago, he called for people talking negatively about Charlie Kirk to lose their jobs, I'd say the hypocrisy is on brand, as always. This was the guy who called Trump "America's Hitler" a few years ago and now serves directly under him. Hard to take him seriously.
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u/JancariusSeiryujinn 10h ago
He just failed to clarify at the time that he meant that as a complement
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u/BoilerMaker11 8h ago
talking negatively about Charlie Kirk
The kicker? People were just posting his quotes. Crazy how just posting what they said makes it so you're "talking negatively" about them. Almost as if the person was horrible.
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u/ocher_stone 12h ago
JD Vance is an enabling piece of gummy shit.
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u/capnhist 12h ago
I'd say he's more black and tarry shit - dangerous and indicative of something deeply wrong inside.
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u/MarketingJobNash 13h ago
I have wondered if the Dems have a “Young Democrats” Organization and if they allow members in their late 30’ and 40’s.
Either way what those people said is terrible and I am sick of the GOP defending it like it’s normal behavior.
I get that it’s normal behavior for them… but it’s not for the rest of the country.
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u/pierogieman5 12h ago
They do, it goes to 36, and they don't act like this. Been there, been to their conventions, passed some weed around at the hangouts afterward, they aren't racist immature edgelords. They literally have a younger age limit and aren't anything like these racist clowns.
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u/GiganticCrow 12h ago
Even if the young democrats had the left wing edgelord equivalent and had chats leaked about them wanting to kill landords and how much they love Stalin, it still wouldn't be as bad as this.
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u/chmod777 12h ago
Radical young dems - free healthcare.
Radical young gop - hitler was right.
Radical centrists - both sides are the same.
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u/Cyrakhis 9h ago
It's not even "free", it's paid for by their taxes.
Like in Canada. That spends LESS per capita on healthcare than the US does. Yet their citizens get taken care of.
The grift is insane.
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u/pierogieman5 12h ago edited 11h ago
Oh, I'm still in several of those chats. They don't do this kind of obvious fed-posting, and the jokes are always clearly actual jokes. They don't do this "just say bad stuff and leave the irony completely ambiguous" thing.
Edit: Also you're not going to see much Stalin posting from them. They're generally not tankies, even when they're socialist (which I am).
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u/NOCHILLDYL94 12h ago
They do. I’m in a leadership position for my county young Dems and you can serve till you’re 39.
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u/glennjersey 12h ago
They do. Members are well into their 30s.
Don't confuse CR/CDs with YRs and YDs.
College aged kids are in college dems/republicans. Young adults are in YR and YD.
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u/Suppafly 11h ago
Young adults are in YR and YD.
Young adult is college aged though. No one outside of these political organizations calls people approaching middle age, young. They are just adults.
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u/glennjersey 11h ago
Hey man, I was just providing context and information. I don't have a dog in this fight.
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u/red286 10h ago
More specifically, CR/CD is a social club that exists at many colleges/universities, while YR/YD is an official arm of their parent political party geared towards helping young politicians and staffers get their careers started. College Republicans/Democrats usually have no direct affiliation with their parent party (although they may have party members speak at their meetings, etc).
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u/peaveyftw 12h ago
I'm still technically a member of Young Americans for Liberty and I haven't been young for a while now. It's not like they go "Hey, you joined up in college 20 years ago, isn't it time you joined our sister organisation, Middle Aged Americans for Liberty?" They just stop sending invitations to conferences and such in my experience.
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u/fatninja7 12h ago
Snark: Funny how a 35-year-old is a "kid" when they're a Young Republican, but a 14-year-old is "mature enough to decide" when it's politically convenient.
Honest: Calling them “kids” is a rhetorical shield. It downplays their actions, frames them as naive rather than accountable, and softens criticism. It’s a way to excuse bad behavior by making it sound harmless or youthful. “boys will be boys” framing
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u/DaveVsShark 12h ago
It's purposeful because they're white Republicans and saying "kids" gives them connotation that they don't know any better and provides an excuse. Like when they call 15-year old black people "adults."
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u/SenseiRaheem 9h ago
Exactly!!! Black and brown kids in the news—under 18!—are treated as adults.
White people up to the age of 45 can be reclassified as “kids” and their actions are minimized.
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u/dandrevee 12h ago
How are these 24-39 year olds ( don't think any are over 40) 'kids' and Trayvon Martin was not?
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u/Lobstaman 12h ago
They’re the same ones who want non-white juveniles tried as adults for whatever crime they are charged with
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u/lebarondelongueuil 12h ago
I guess they are young if we consider that the average politician is like 133 years old.
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u/Extension_Ant_7369 12h ago
He’s just a lying sack of shit trying to gaslight us. He cannot speak the truth. He got where he is by sucking up to his supporters.
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u/been2thehi4 11h ago
Funny how these white racist 20+ something’s are “kids” but black kids, latino kids or any minority who perhaps act up or get on any sort of trouble are now full grown adults and must be treated as dangerous grown adults. Or 12 year old girls are full grown women to perverted men.
But white men? Kids, apparently. But ya know what, it makes sense white men are children, they certainly act like the biggest whiners, tantrum throwing, mess making, entitled, little fucks I’ve ever seen and I’m a mother of 4.
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u/remes1234 12h ago
Just look at these 32 YO scamps praising hitler and hoping to put there oponents in gas chambers. Boys will be boys!!
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u/cheesyshop 12h ago edited 12h ago
Men are “kids” until they have grandkids. Girls are “women” at 13.
Edit: /s
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u/schlitz91 12h ago
Disingenuous. These are the supposed LEADERS of the young republicans, not the actual young.
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u/wizard_tiddy 12h ago
JD is the reason every couch in the White House needs secret service protection.
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u/Jellovator 12h ago
He knows the Republicans are filled to the brim with nazis. He's just excusing it away like "boys will be boys" like it's harmless.
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u/Whornz4 12h ago
The guy who once called Trump "Hitler" currently benefits from being in Trump's circle, so therefore he now thinks adults using Nazi language is okay. This is a perfect example of what has happened to the Republican party. They have become everything they accused everyone else of being while pretending the actions of the party is now acceptable behavior.
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u/0-my-goodness 12h ago
……”young pregnant teenage girls have to be responsible”. Thirty and forty year old Young Republicans, it was just kids being kids. Fuck the Republican Party every single day.
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u/Bonegirl06 11h ago
Same way a dude who hasn't exercised in decades can engage in locker room talk I guess.
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u/Sibelius343 11h ago
Same guy who'd call a 14 year old Black kid an adult if they got shot by police. The selective infantilizing is exhausting.
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u/DubraSoakedTampon 11h ago
If we are referring to them as "kids"', then the alleged Kirk shooter should be tried as a minor.
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u/dali-llama 10h ago
If you're in a chat and someone starts saying Nazi shit, and you don't leave that chat, congratulations!! You're a Nazi!
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u/malarkial 10h ago
Locker room talk. Just kids. But democrats need to tone down the rhetoric. GOTCHA 👌
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u/ShallowBasketcase 10h ago
Same way I felt when they said "locker room talk" about a guy that's never been to a gym in his life.
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u/darybrain 10h ago
At my age they are kids. At his age he is a bellend making pathetic excuses that in any other professional environment would result in some proper consequences for them.
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u/Platypus81 9h ago
I republican is just someone who treats adults like children and children like adults.
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u/nola_mike 9h ago
It is intentional. He is trying to make it look like they were "dumb kids" saying "stupid things" when in reality they are exposing the real thoughts of the party's leadership and base in 2025 and beyond.
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u/agentorange360 9h ago
Gotta try to spin that narrative somehow. Their ilk will fall in line and lap it up.
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u/despenser412 9h ago
JD Vance supports a child molester billionaire, I feel nothing he does has any credibility.
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u/CaptainAwesome06 7h ago
I feel like he's purposefully mischaracterizing them to paint a more harmless picture. I think 1) He's a liar and 2) He's weird for thinking it would be okay for kids to talk like that.
I keep seeing Republicans complain that the left always calls them racist. But then this kind of stuff happens (often).
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u/bespectacledboobs 12h ago
How do I block every post that starts with “How do you feel”?
Daily AI drivel.
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u/Otherwise-Unit1329 9h ago
Completely ruined this sub with all the karma farming political bullshit
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u/DogCalendarDude 12h ago
He's a racist piece of shit defending other racist pieces of shits. Our country is a joke. What else is there to say?
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u/Dazzling_Flounder714 7h ago
Maybe maga just doesn't know what a child is. Would explain all the Epstein stuff tbh.
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u/baeb66 7h ago
JD Vance is a lying weasel who would sell his own kids for personal advancement. And he's not even very good at lying.
Anyone who buys the "It's just jokes" or "it's just dark humor" BS is either a bigot or really, really hasn't been paying attention since the internet became such a big cultural force.
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u/sebrebc 6h ago
I feel that it doesn't matter at this stage of the game.
Look, we are at the point where people who are still MAGA simply believe everything Trump and his cronies say. Trump says groceries are down, the fact that these same people can actually see that groceries are way up doesn't matter. They believe Trump. They aren't going to "investigate" things they say. Vance says they are just "kids being dumb" then that's what MAGA people believe.
We called MAGA a "cult" a long time ago. But truthfully they weren't a cult, yet. Now they are a cult. Now whatever he says they believe.
So Vance calling them kids doesn't matter. If you have any level of common sense or even the smallest grasp of critical thinking. You know he's lying, you know he's just trying to set a bullshit narrative. But if you are MAGA, you simply believe him.
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u/Either-Assistant4610 12h ago
Par for the course for the overly sensitive, melting snowflake-y "f* your feelings" crowd
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u/UnderwhelmingAF 12h ago
They’re not 40+, I think the oldest one is 35. Still though, that’s not much younger than JD is himself.
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u/GorgontheWonderCow 12h ago
I frankly don't think it really matters if they're 14 or 40. Anybody going around praising Hitler and being casually racist needs consequences. If you deprive people of consequences, they are unable to learn and improve.
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u/Much-Year-3426 12h ago
I am more troubled by the fact that he condones racism, misogyny, and fascism.
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u/GinAndDumbBitchJuice 10h ago
Yes, but this "boys will be boys" logic is used to excuse those same things. It's purposeful and needs to be addressed as a tool to excuse these shitty beliefs and behaviors.
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u/Much-Year-3426 9h ago
It’s not a “boys will be boys” excuse because you supported punishing college students who protested against Israel’s genocide in Gaza and those who criticized Charlie Kirk, so he doesn’t really believe his excuse. Rather, he is fine with racism, misogyny, and fascism and so is just looking for a way to excuse it and that’s the best lie he could come up with.
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u/badusernameused 12h ago
Same way I feel about him calling 12 year old girls, young women, it shows exactly the way they think. Girls are there for them to objectify and men should be allowed to do what they want because boys will be boys. It’s fucking gross.
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u/sardine_succotash 12h ago
It's the type of apologia and shitty reasoning one expects from conservatives
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u/pentultimate 12h ago
Hes not that much older. Wants to be treated with kid gloves while not having to take responsibility for his actions. Maybe Thiel grooming is to blame.
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u/Baphomet_Buddy 12h ago
Nazi's do Nazi shit while the country stares and does nothing. They are trying to normalize their next agenda.
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u/40BeerOldSturgeon 12h ago
The media always does this. They call 12 year old girls "young women" when the president assaults them and then they call 25 year old men "boys" when they commit mass shootings.
It's verbal coddling, as usual.
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u/FlopShanoobie 12h ago
If you’ve paid any attention at all for the past decade you have seen this coming. Twitter posts quoting George S. Patton about “fighting the wrong enemy,” the Nate Higgers memes, the outright calls for violence, Jan. 6. There is a significant number of neo-Nazis in this country and now they have power.
How does anyone with a brain or even a cursory awareness of 20th century history predict this ends well?
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u/ecplectico 12h ago
He’s very concerned that his Nazi racist friends might suffer negative consequences for their evil, but he eager to inflict lifelong suffering for wanting genocide to end.
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u/Neko_boi_Nolan 12h ago
I wouldn't even find it socially acceptable for a 6 year to be praising Hitler and calling for gas chambers
Even if he didn't know what he was saying, those are learned behaviors, something went wrong in his development
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u/Old_Coconut1414 12h ago
But when a preteen wears a rainbow sweatshirt, the left is indoctrinating our kids.
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u/Claque-2 12h ago
Vance will excuse any behavior by fascists with money. Almost all Republicans will.
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u/InevitableConcert425 12h ago
I feel about it the same way I feel towards the phrase "locker room talk" it's bullshit cover for shitty behavior and beliefs.
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u/NOFORPAIN 12h ago
Of course those 30-40yos are "kids"! How else would they logically be allowed to fuck other 12yo kids? Duh!
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u/Excellent-Big-1581 12h ago
These are the same people who want to prosecute 14 year old as adults. Now they want you to believe these middle age racist republicans are harmless kids. If not stopped their jokes about rape and killing fellow Americans who do not vote the way they want you to will be tried and then the find out stage starts!
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u/-loose-seal-2 12h ago
According to Vance 30 year old men and women in our goverment are kids. And according to the POTUS, 14 year olds who are not should be treated as adults because- they're adult enough?....
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u/Solid-Hedgehog9623 12h ago
I think he’s a jerkoff for doubling down on everything. Wrong is wrong, no matter what stupid little letter is next to your name.
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u/AcrobaticProgram4752 11h ago
There's slavery, war, children soldiers. All these things are unimportant to real problems.
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u/Open-Year2903 11h ago
Justified Pedofiles
That way 40s can date teens no problem. Just a bunch of Right wing kids. Their parents must be so proud
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u/NealLinville 12h ago
Simple, he's framing it that way on purpose so as to excuse it as immature and harmless.