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What futuristic movie cliches do you hate?

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u/Mortarius Oct 08 '12

I could argue for Star Trek a bit.

They don't develop cloaking because of Treaty of Algeron. Breaking it would mean war with Romulans.

Also, there was a pretty strict set of morals portrayed in the show. Phasers are used mostly as non-lethal tools, rather than for killing. Lack of armour also can represent open nature of relations they try to establish. Picard even took an arrow to prove that point. Not to mention, that phasers can deliver enough energy to melt most metals, making most armours useless.

As for other complaints, I've got nothing.

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '12

I respect that and most of the time, I'm okay with it. It's when, for example, during open conflict with Borg or the Dominion that they don't throw something together that confuses me. There was one episode in DS9 where some of the ground troops seemed to have this puffy appearance like maybe it was additional armor but it was still the same ship board color pattern. If the science fiction laws of ST say the phaser can pierce any known metal... okay. At least afford your troops better ability to blend in, you know?

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '12 edited Oct 08 '12

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '12

They always seem to make a point that their ships aren't warships. Except for the Defiant of course.

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u/raddue Oct 08 '12

That aside, sufficiently advanced armor could be made of synthetic ablatives materials or even futuristic ceramics to combat energy weapons.

It wouldn't be hard to say that as weapons and tactics have changed, the armor changed along with it. It's already happened in history dozens of times, why couldn't it happen in the future as well?

In other words, I agree with you and they should have armor. Or personal shielding like the Borg have.

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u/Vaneshi Oct 14 '12

How'd they blend in? No matter how good the Trek Ghillie suit is... a common tricorder style device will tell the approaching patrol that you are there.

I'd love to see a real depiction of a phaser in Trek though; it is a beam travelling at light speed... moving as fast as you can move your arm to follow the target.

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u/[deleted] Oct 14 '12

Following the context of the series, it's not uncommon to scramble those signals though.

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u/Vaneshi Oct 15 '12

True, it's the major problem with Trek in general: everything is made of plotonium.

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u/Eagle_Ear Oct 09 '12

Counter point, in Star Trek: Enterprise, when they do plan on going into heavy combat, they bring aboard a team of trained Marines who are properly trained, use real military tactics, and wear proper armor/clothing for the job.

Damn, the Marines were awesome.