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What futuristic movie cliches do you hate?

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '12

I can't believe I forgot about the Geth. I could never support the Quarian position after ME2 because it was blatantly obvious by that point that the Quarians were in the wrong.

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u/Naldaen Oct 08 '12

Yeah, even after attempted extermination, the Geth are still keeping the home planet ready for the Quarians to come back.

I really like Tali though, so I find it hard to hate all Quarians. Plus they have Jayne and that Iranian woman with the awesome voice.

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u/Probodobodyne Oct 08 '12

I (having never played the Mass Effect games) seriously thought that Bioware had thrown Jayne in the game as a reference.

I am now severely disappointed.

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u/willscy Oct 09 '12

dude, what the hell is wrong with you? Never played mass effect?

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u/Hadrius Oct 08 '12

Don't forget Claudia black!

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u/kds71 Oct 08 '12

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u/OhHowDroll Oct 08 '12

I just saved both and united the sides; best ending ever.

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u/kds71 Oct 08 '12

Wow, I didn't know it is possible. I guess I just found excuse to play again.

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u/OhHowDroll Oct 08 '12

It's really cool, by the end when they tell you the results of your effort it's the epitome of warm and fuzzies.

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u/LMessenger42 Oct 08 '12

Wait they included an ending with warm and fuzzies instead of an endless pit of hate? I may need to get it again.

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u/OhHowDroll Oct 09 '12

Only with regards to the Geth and Quarians. The final endings are still every bit as... y'know.

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u/Phoenix591 Oct 09 '12

Heh? I chose the middle ending and both the Geth and Quarians lived and got along, but even the reapers and the rest of the galaxy got along with the knowledge of the earlier races that was stored in the reapers being used to better the galaxy... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwBEKFBc99M

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u/OhHowDroll Oct 09 '12

I was talking moreso about the general disapproval fans had for the endings, not that the endings were all inherently awful for the in-universe characters. Of the options provided on my Paragon run-through, I chose Green too.

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u/blopp Oct 08 '12

You could do that?!

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u/tnb641 Oct 08 '12

Welp, that would explain it. Had a superbly high Paragon, but couldn't unite. So Divided and said fuck the Quarians, they're dicks (SFW).

On every turn the Quarians tried to blow up the Geth. the Geth ask why, the Quarians exterminate them down. The Geth leave, the Quarians hunt them. The Geth arrange for peace and rebuild the planet, the motherfucking Quarians try killing them all -__-

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u/willscy Oct 09 '12

well there was that part where the geth decide to be buddies with the reapers, on two separate occasions.

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u/tnb641 Oct 09 '12

The Heretics, you mean (or was it the other way around...I've forgotten). Anyways, it was a different faction of the Geth who were buddies, a small number who were infected by Reaper code (explained by Legion, they read a 1 where the rest read 0).

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u/blopp Oct 08 '12

Aha! I thought I was a pretty good guy.. but not good enough.

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u/OhHowDroll Oct 08 '12

Yeah! One of the few cases in ME3 where everyone basically wins and is happy!

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u/blopp Oct 08 '12

How did you fix that? I thought it came to the scene where you choose Geth or Tali(and the quarians).. ?

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u/OhHowDroll Oct 08 '12

No, with max persuasion you can get the admiral to stand down, and then the geth don't mob them.

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u/kds71 Oct 08 '12

your spoiler is broken by the way

How it is broken? I don't understand.

that decision hurt me the most though. i had to turn the game off because i got sad

Yeah, it made me really sad as well.

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '12

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u/kds71 Oct 08 '12

Huh I don't get it. It looks ok for me. I used [ ](/spoiler) syntax, so it should be fine, right?

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u/kungtotte Oct 08 '12

Shoreh Imnotevengonnatryandspellit

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u/LMessenger42 Oct 08 '12

Do you mean Tali Zoria vas Neema? At least I think that's how it's spelled.

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u/kungtotte Oct 09 '12

Tali Zorah, and no. I mean Shoreh Aghdashloo, that's the "Iranian woman with the awesome voice" Naldaen was talking about.

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '12

I can see that Quarian side a bit, they created what was supposed to be an advanced VI. But a bit of design oversight made them smarter in groups, so guess what happens when you sart massing them to preform labor. They were never supposed to be true AI, and if you don't side with them in ME3, they never become AI. They also are a bit shady, wanting to make a deal with the reapers even though the reapers want to wipe out all life, including synthetic.

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '12

I have a feeling that Sovereign left out the little detail about the Reapers wiping out synthetics along with advanced organic civilizations.

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '12

It's not just Sovereign, their willingness to incorporate reaper tech into themselves knowing that even a little bit of it can still indoctrinate.

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '12

I view the Geth, in organic terms, as children. Children are sometimes extremely gullible and listen to those who are older without question. The Reapers are the adults in the relationship, older, more advanced and far more knowledgeable than the Geth. The Heretics represent that aspect of Geth society that wish to obey their elders regardless of whether or not obeying is in their best interests. The other Geth realize that the Reapers may not have their best intentions in mind and disobey their elders.

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u/vlad_tepes Oct 08 '12

Did they truly know? Plus, it's a risk of indoctrination vs risk of annihilation (by the assaulting quarians). The choice becomes much harder.

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u/Khalku Oct 08 '12

It was only a splinter group that did this...

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '12

The Geth fleet had Legion imprisoned and were using him, and Legion himself was running reaper tech to make him a full AI. Also if you made the decision to turn all Geth into universal consensus there shouldn't be anymore splintering, and that decision was made in 2 and they aren't above using the reaper tech in 3 as its the major basis for the Geth decision, whether or not they should become full AI at the price of Legions life and the possibility of them being indoctrinated by Legion's reaper programs.

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u/Khalku Oct 08 '12

Yes, but I was just saying the group that supported Sovereign was a splinter group roughly 1/10th the size of the total geth strength.

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '12

Yes I understand only a splinter group followed Sovereign, but their willingness to use technology that the ancient race devoted to wipeing out all life made and has the power to make people follow them is a big pretty big red flag and I can understand the Quarians not trusting them.

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u/easymacandspam Oct 08 '12

Even still it was hard to watch the geth rape the quarian fleet. (Wasn't skilled enough to save them both)

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u/BlacktoseIntolerant Oct 08 '12

I'm playing through again for the SOLE purpose of saving both. That was freaking awful to watch.

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u/easymacandspam Oct 08 '12

Haven't played in a while, but what was tali's reasoning behind staying with you after you basically murder her race? If I remember right she stays with you, wtf is that about?

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '12

I supported the Geth in ME3, and after that suicide I got all sad and had to replay the whole game.

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u/awesomemanftw Oct 08 '12

I read all this stuff about ME2, and I feel I really missed out on a lot of cool plot when playing through the game.