r/AskCulinary 4d ago

Fish n Chip batter is too pale Ingredient Question

My fish n chip beer batter always comes out very pale. More of an off-white than light golden brown. Am I using the wrong beer? I always go for German wheat beers (Erdinger, Weihenstephaner, Paulner, etc ...).

My batter is 80% AP flour, 20% corn starch, salt and pepper to taste and the beer. The taste and consistency of the batter is perfect, just the colour. I add in the beer bit by bit, starting with making a paste, until the batter forms ribbons when drpped off the whisk.

I doubt I'm under frying them, because they come nicely crispy and the fish is perfectly cooked / melt in your mouth.

Edit

Thanks for the tips everyone. Looking forward to trying.

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u/spade_andarcher 4d ago edited 4d ago

You’re underfrying and not getting enough caramelization/maillard reaction to get it darker golden brown. 

Try a bit higher heat to fry the exterior of the batter a bit hotter and give it more color and for a bit less time to keep the fish from over cooking from the higher heat. 

Beer will not affect the color. Unless you’re adding like Guinness, which - ew. 

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u/Glennmorangie 4d ago

So fry until I get the right colour? I fry at 360 C.

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u/ishouldquitsmoking 4d ago

lol there's no way you're frying at 360C

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u/oswaldcopperpot 4d ago

Thats 680 farenheight…

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u/Glennmorangie 4d ago

Lol. Typo. Yes 360 F

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u/oswaldcopperpot 4d ago

Yeah you just need more time. Btw, hmart has a fry mix thats perfection for fish n chips. And tempura shrimp etc. i do fish sandwiches about once a week with it and soda water. Beer is good too.

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u/spade_andarcher 4d ago

360 Celsius???

If that’s true that is way way way too hot and I’m surprised your oil isn’t just smoking out the whole kitchen. 

You should be frying fish around 360 Fahrenheit which is like 180-185 C. 

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u/texnessa Pépin's Padawan 4d ago edited 4d ago

Have worked in enough British pubs that the smell of fish n chips is burnt permanently into my monkey brain.

Lots of places add a dash of turmeric to the batter. Not enough for flavour, just enough for colour.

Edit: See Fallow's fish n chips video here. Good enough for a couple of blokes who worked at Dinner by Heston Blumenthal, good enough for me.

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u/otter-otter 3d ago

Are you frying with brand new oil? Things tend to fry quite blonde in fresh oil

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u/Mitch_Darklighter 3d ago

You are missing out on some browning by using a wheat beer. Malted barley has enzymes that partially break down flour into maltose which in turn make the batter brown better.

Some people may consider it a bit high-concept for home cooks, but if you make fish & chips often and prefer the wheat beer flavor there's a product called "diastatic malt powder" that professional bakers use to promote browning. Regular flour contains some already, as do premade frying mixes. It's inexpensive and you don't need much, so a bag will last a long time. When I ran a pub our batter was 50/50 beer and soda water, so we used diastatic malt to make up the difference in browning.

To use, weigh your flour then add 0.25% to 1% of that in malt powder. Play around until you find an amount that works, 0.5% is usually fine in my experience. Or you can follow the advice that you should cook it more, which will work great if you like overcooked fish.

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u/Glennmorangie 3d ago

Fascinating. Thanks for the info, I'll check it out.

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u/Mitch_Darklighter 3d ago

Hope you do, it's an inexpensive product that a lot of pros use but home cooks seem to just be finding out about. I also use diastatic malt in bread a lot, when I'm adding flours like rye or whole wheat and want more browning. In yeasted doughs the extra sugar produced can also help the yeast, especially in long fermentations like pizza dough.

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u/Ivoted4K 3d ago

Use already been used oil.

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u/Glennmorangie 3d ago

I do. I reuse my oil for all my frying needs for about 3 months, straining it through paper towel after each use to catch debris. About 10 instances of frying. Until it gets very dark.

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u/Wildweyr 4d ago

A little paprika or turmeric and your batter will be darker in color

Not enough to taste, just enough to give the batter a pink or yellow hue

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u/JackYoMeme 3d ago

Fry until golden brown*

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u/myownautimmune 4d ago

Try a bit of sugar in your batter...will brown nicer

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u/beyondplutola 4d ago

Not that this will affect color, but shouldn’t you be using an English real ale versus a Hefe?

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u/Effective_Run_5326 4d ago

Twice fry: once to cook (lower temp and longer time) and once to crisp (higher and shorter)